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in order for the muscles to grow, hypertrophy... they must experience a foreign amount of stress.. keyword being foreign.. a stress they have never experienced before. when you add the type of stress that only increasing repitions and *not* the amount of weight, it results in a different change... a change not of growth, but of muscular endurance. therefore there is no change in size, just endurance. and besides, your experience is skewed because you said yourself, you added freeweights and you simply perform pushups as a warmup. so you can't say your continual growth in muscular size is attributed solely to doing pushups and increasing their reps. |
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unless you tear muscle you wont get mass (which weight training does.) thats what i think he meant
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I go to the gym 4 times a week and always in the morning. If I don't go in the morning, I won't go at all. I joined in October and I've lost 15 lbs and dropped 2 sizes. I do 1 hour of cardio and 30 minutes of weights each time. I have never felt to good in my whole life and I have more energy than I can remember having in a looong time.
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hmm, I see your point but my humble opinion would be that your point is flawed in the way that a marathon runner walks for hours on end and thus does not do INTERVAL training it is proven that INTERVAL training builds muscles I DONT do 500 push ups in one time, if I did your theory would applie push ups can be done in many different ways , it all depends on how you do them and what your schedule is do you do speed push ups ? do you do very slow ones ? there are many variations of push ups and thus many different possible results if you do push ups the way I do them they build muscle , but of course you are right I did add free weights so my results now are not just the push ups , but I was speaking about my results before I started using free weights, and I can guarantee you they did build muscle with me |
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you acn tear muscle with push ups , you just have to know how dont do the same push ups every day one day you do speed push ups other day slow ones you can do push ups on your fist you can do speed push ups on your fist you can do slow push ups on your fist you can do push ups and every time your arms are stretched you wait a fraction of a second you can do push ups very slow and wait a fraction of a second when your nose almost thouches the ground there are just too many possible ways to do push ups that it is impossible to just say what the results would be of doing push ups |
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First thing in the morning for me, 1 hour cardio, 30 minutes weights and my day is off and running. Then I have a trainer 1 hour a week for just stretching.
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I go 3 days a week in the mornings. I do an hour of core and weight training and then 30 mins cardio. Where do I get the energy? LOL, I don't have it, I just make myself go and then I feel like I am going to die afterwards BUT after I get my breath back I feel so much better the rest of the day
I agree with what others have said, the eating plays a VERY important part.
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I usually work out as soon as I wake up then take a 45 min nap after coming back. I take a 45min nap around 8pm then try to work out again around 9pm or so. 4 times a week with about 1 day in between each workout.
The times rotate with my daily work schedule, some days I work late some fairly early but I usually have 24hour access to a gym so it all works out for me.
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you can do all the same stupid shit on a bench with 60 pounds... and what? you wont get different results than doing pushups. there is a reason no one does what you are talking about to gain mass... that would be that it does not work. you have to have a few things to trigger and adaptive response from your muscles... intensity of the contraction, fatigue and overload. just because you can make your muscles sore, it does not mean you are gaining mass. i am not a marathon runner but anyone training for aerobic indurance does interval training. the purpose of interval training is aerobic endurance... not to build muscle mass. thats a another no brainer as well. besides, you have to mix all types of cardio workouts to get optimum results and benefits. interval training is done specifically for endurance... except in the Land of You, population 1. ![]() |
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lol, I like the land of You , or should I say land of ME I should be posting pics to make you folks shut the fuck up ;) and yeah, once I post those you folks will claim ALL my results that are in the pic are just because of the free weights , before stating that pls remember I only use weights of 6 kilo each ( around 12 pounds) so no heavy lifting here ![]() |
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I used to work out at least 6 hours/day when I was fighting and was calculated to be burning over 5000 calories per day. I simply couldn't eat enough food (all tuna, turkey, rice, etc)...was even eating while working the heavy bag. Now, I'm down to about 3-4 hours/day with lower intensity. I'm healing a shoulder injury so I can't do bag work or push-ups, etc...I feel like a slug. When it gets healed, I want to hit it back into high gear.
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and btw , I get in discussions like this on a regular basis when people want to know how I work out , when I say I get most results of push ups and sit ups the refuse to believe me and alway and I mean ALWAYS bring up the same points as in this thread.....
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thats why I do push ups , I like my muscle to have a NATURAL look |
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Early morning is the best time for burning calories, and late morning to early afternoon for energy and strentgh. Any combo of the two usually works best!
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Pullups are one of the best workouts! Bicept and lateral!
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yeah I forgot to add pull ups , those can do miracles too |
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no there I was talking about NATURAL looks I am no muscle expert ,but I do know that it is possible to train every muscle in your body with push ups even your fuckin legs ![]() |
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anyway, we can both agree that further debate is useless. |
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right now I do push ups sit ups and occacionely pull ups my problem with just using free weights and no push ups or other natural stuff is my fear of getting short muscles that I think many of the free weight users have |
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yeah , but ehmmm, who said anything about bodybuilding ? ? ? ? LOL bodybuilders are dummies , I could beat the crap out any bodybuilder any day , no I was talking about building mass not about blowing your body up I already stated earlyier in this thread that it should be more than clear that you CAN NEVER get any result like a bodybuilder by doing push ups , I mean duh I know that |
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Although I didn't start with weights and I don't do them now (when shoulder is healed), my peak work-out was: 500 push-ups, about 3800 sit-ups, 200 pull-ups and 250 squats per day each with a 45 lb weight straped to me via a bookbag (later I moved that workout to every other day for more healing time and not all 3800 sit-ups had the weight...maybe only 1000 did). I would go each set to failure and then allow only 30 seconds rest between sets and continue until I hit the full 500 (etc). First sets typically were 80-100 for push-ups between two tables so I could go further down and 60 for the pull-ups, palms out and with the weights for the pull-ups. Even with all that on top of 4-5 hours of martial-arts training, cardio, and creatine, I never gained more than 6 lbs. I mean, I was ripped and maybe a little freakish, but again mass wasn't my goal. Of course, I'm sure you could gain a lot more than that if you just did the push-ups (etc), since I was burning serious calories and still eating everything I could (although it was probably still not enough).
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it all depends on what you call an increase of mass and what look you are going for
if this is what you are aiming for then yeah push ups wont do the trick if you like this look (in my eyes he has WAAAAY more mass than any average person ) then push ups , sit ups and pull ups can do that for you it should be obvious what I am shooting for |
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I kinda understand what Fake Nick is saying! there is a lean look and there are these body builders who work on building massive muscles that just don't look like nature intended! It's ok to be a bit bigger than average! train for stregnth, but these guys take it way too far. You need to include a sport and cardio to complete any exercise regime.
The bottom line is what looks good to you! Pesonally I train for stregnth, and do extensive cardio! I don't want to get to bulky, like these guys that can't even wipe thier own asses! at the same time I don't want to look like a marathon runner. ![]()
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and yeah my guess is Mr IZZ is also going for pic no 2 and thus could just do my workout ;)
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i work out as soon as i wake up, 15 min of punching bag to warm up, 30 min on the precor, then lift weights, and punching bag before i go to bed also. i work from home so i have some more spare time on my hands.
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I see a MASSive belly in your future ![]() |
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I train pretty intense, much like a bodybuilder does and I've been at it for a few years now... and I don't think I look overly bulky or gross or anywhere near your "standard bodybuilder"...
You will not achieve that massive muscular look many bodybuilders have by training with freeweights intensely for even a few years... It takes many years, and usually a lot of steroids to get the look that those bodybuilders have. So don't be "afraid" that you're going to turn out to be a monster if you train with freeweights, because you won't, i can practically guarantee it. ![]() |
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There was a study that showed that people who worked out in the AM stayed at it longer. They also found that if you work out at the same time each day you will stay with it longer as well.
I worked out at 11 am for 20 years but the last 2 years I haven't been able to take 1 1/2 - 2 hour lunches because I'm too busy and gained fucking 40 pounds. |
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if those pics are you , you are right you dont look extreme at all looks like you work out regulary and well balanced , you should try adding some push ups to your work out and see what it does for you I am pretty sure it will add an extra new dimension to your work out btw I am around 210 - 220 lbs |
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I want to start but.....well you know the rest
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I work out every morning before work and i think that if you go everyday you will get use to it and you will not be able to pass one day without working out!!!
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I used to work out twice a day, 1 hour in the morning and 2 in the evening and that for 5 days a week. Working out in the morning is very good because it will give you extra energy for the day, but if you work out in the mornings you need to watch your breakfast
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I workout about 4 days a week then ride my bike 20 - 70 miles on the weekend. I usually workout in the mornings because byt he afternoon the kids have me so worn out. Energy = coffee.
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I'm in the gym @ 5:30am and then back in the gym at 6:30pm
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The best time is whenever you can do it.
Just keep it consistent man. I was consistent for 4 months, lost 30 lbs of FAT. Gained amazing strength. 3x a week for weight lifting and 5 days a week for low intensity cardio. Diet is very important. I recently havent worked out for 3 weeks. Lifted last night... ugh. Cant believe I ever let work get in the way of my health again. Luckily, thanks to a pretty decent diet, I only gained around pound of fat... sadly, I lost some strength. Biggest weight loss tip - stop drinking pop/soda, juice and booze. |
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The body has the most strength and energy a few hours after lunch, unless you are trying to lose weight than morning is the best time.
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