Anyone on Atkin's diet? - GoFuckYourself.com

Centurion · 03-29-2003, 12:04 AM

If you are..got a couple of questions:

I've been on it for a little over 3 weeks now. I've been very faithful..no chocolate (miss my m&m's so much!), sugar, etc.

Now, what's so special about the first 2 weeks. I keep reading about this..but it's never made real clear why this is so crucial.
And, it's during the first 2 weeks you are supposed to keep your carb intake below 24 grams a day? Then after that, you can raise it to 30 grams a day?

Just trying to make sure I got the "steps" down right.
Oh, I've lost of whopping 6 pounds so far. Yes, I do work out too.
So, is this about normal for this diet..lose about 2 pounds a week?
Another reason I'm asking is that I remember someone on here saying they had lost like 50 pounds in..I THINK they said, one month!

tony286 · 03-29-2003, 12:06 AM

Who much weight do you want to lose ?If have a lot to lose stay at the lo carbs. A good place to go is www.atkinsfriends.com

dig420 · 03-29-2003, 12:10 AM

http://www.setgo.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=56

be careful with that diet

Centurion · 03-29-2003, 12:11 AM

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Originally posted by tony404
Who much weight do you want to lose ?If have a lot to lose stay at the lo carbs. A good place to go is www.atkinsfriends.com

Well, a lot..relatively speaking.
I even bought this low carb bread ($7.00 for one loaf! small slices at that)..cut out the pasta, bread (except for the one I bought), rice..etc. Do have brocolli or cauliflower 3 or 4 times a week with nightly meal...seems that those 2 are ok..said to stay away from starchy veggies.

So, I do plan to stick to it..just looking for any new ideas, recipes, experiences others may have had on the same diet.

Tala · 03-29-2003, 12:17 AM

The first two weeks is called induction. It's the period where you're reprogramming your body to not rely on carbohydrates, instead to get its energy from protiens and the stored fat in your body. You're supposed to use 20 grams of carbs a day rather than 24, though. So the 6 pounds isn't bad at all, considering that you're using 4 extra grams of carbs a day.

I lost 21 pounds in 21 days. Everyone's metabolism is different, though, and so your weight loss may be different than, say, mine. good luck to you!

Lane · 03-29-2003, 12:21 AM

losing weight by screwing up the balance of your food intake is not a good choice.. get your ass up and exercise.. you'll feel a lot better and not have to suffer the consequenses of low blood sugar

Centurion · 03-29-2003, 12:23 AM

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Originally posted by Lane
losing weight by screwing up the balance of your food intake is not a good choice.. get your ass up and exercise.. you'll feel a lot better and not have to suffer the consequenses of low blood sugar

Dude..read my post again..I DO EXCERCISE!
And I suffer from the consequences of HIGH blood sugar!

Lane · 03-29-2003, 12:26 AM

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Originally posted by Centurion

Dude..read my post again..I DO EXCERCISE!
And I suffer from the consequences of HIGH blood sugar!

hmm sorry, i must admit i missed that part

but atkins won't stabilize your blood sugar

PersianKitty · 03-29-2003, 12:35 AM

Zone Diet... intake of 40% carbs, 30% proteins and 30% fats (good fats that is). ie.. modified atkins.. AND one of the best side effects is that it will help stabilize your blood sugar. There's an everygrowing biz right now of companies in major cities that deliver zone meals daily to your home (3 meals and 2 snacks a day)

http://www.zoneperfect.com/

http://www.drsears.com/

DearAbby · 03-29-2003, 01:31 AM

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Originally posted by Lane
losing weight by screwing up the balance of your food intake is not a good choice.. get your ass up and exercise.. you'll feel a lot better and not have to suffer the consequenses of low blood sugar

yep

Centurion · 03-29-2003, 01:56 AM

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Originally posted by PersianKitty
Zone Diet... intake of 40% carbs, 30% proteins and 30% fats (good fats that is). ie.. modified atkins.. AND one of the best side effects is that it will help stabilize your blood sugar. There's an everygrowing biz right now of companies in major cities that deliver zone meals daily to your home (3 meals and 2 snacks a day)

http://www.zoneperfect.com/

http://www.drsears.com/

Thanks for the info..will check it out.

P.S. Where in Washington State are you located?

quiet · 03-29-2003, 01:58 AM

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Originally posted by Tala
I lost 21 pounds in 21 days.

damn that's quick.

Lane · 03-29-2003, 02:04 AM

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Originally posted by PersianKitty
Zone Diet... intake of 40% carbs, 30% proteins and 30% fats (good fats that is). ie.. modified atkins.. AND one of the best side effects is that it will help stabilize your blood sugar. There's an everygrowing biz right now of companies in major cities that deliver zone meals daily to your home (3 meals and 2 snacks a day)

http://www.zoneperfect.com/

http://www.drsears.com/

sounds a lot more balanced than atkins

Danielle · 03-29-2003, 02:22 AM

Been on Atkins for years and I feel 10 times more healthy then I ever have. Cholesterol and blood preasure have droped big time! Blood sugar has normalized!

Just remember! Atkins is a lifestyle! Not a diet! Don't forget the exercise either.

Here are some things to consider and keep in mind when you start hearing all the people saying that Atkins is bad, etc, etc.....

People (and even some ill-informed doctors) often confuse ketosis, which is a perfectly normal metabolic process, with ketoacidosis, which is a life-threatening condition. The latter is the consequence of insulin-deficient subjects having out-of-control blood sugar levels, a condition that can occur as well in alcoholics and people in a state of extreme starvation. Ketosis and ketoacidosis may sound vaguely alike, but the two conditions are virtually polar opposites and can always be distinguished from each other by the fact that the diabetic has been consuming excessive carbohydrates and has high blood sugar, in sharp contrast to the fortunate person who is doing Atkins.

Almost everyone enters ketosis almost every day. Yet we're not all kicking the bucket. Morning breath is pretty much "ketone breath". As you sleep, you have gone eight to twelve hours without food. Your body is no longer running on carbs, but on ketones: broken down fat. Add to that the fact that you cannot burn body fat without breaking that fat into ketones. That is just how it works. If you are losing weight and not producing ketones you are burning muscle!

Now how about the people that say "The most natural diet for a human is a vegetarian diet" 100,000 years ago man-kind ate mostly meat. 100,000 years is not enough time for a digestive track to evolve to properly proces twinkies.

Preditors (meat eaters) have two eyes on the front of their head to help them judge the distance to their prey. Vegy eaters do not.

Now many say "Fat causes heart disease" The eskimo diet was 95% fat from whale blubber a short while ago. At that time, they never heard of heart problems. We introduce them to twinkies and now their dropping like flies from heart disease.

Now you hear this every day "Fat makes you fat" And eating sugar makes you sweet? Eating Nutrasweet makes you artificial? Eating cheesecake makes you rich? Eating Froot Loops makes you loopy? Corn makes you corny? What happens with a snickers bar? A hundred thousand dollar bar? Fruit? Junk food (sometimes called "crap")? Cheesy poofs? LOL!

The final result is....
If you eat great gobs of fat and carbs, some of the fat will be stored and some of the carbs will be converted to fat and stored. Skip the carbs and the extra fat is just not digested. Skip the fat and the extra carbs are still turned into fat.

Hmmmmmm. Think about it....

One other thing. Never cook meat at very high temeratures. That can cause transfatty acids to be produced. They are bad! Regular fat is good. Artificail (transfatty acids) are bad.

Hugs,
Danielle

High Quality · 03-29-2003, 02:30 AM

Cent,

I did the atkins for a while. I lost like 14 lbs in the first 2 weeks or so. The problem is that you're eating too many carbs I think. I ate like 10 g or less for the first 2 weeks to kick into ketosis.

One thing to look out for is fucken fiber issues. Make sure you drink plenty of water or you're gunna be shitting bricks.

Good luck to you.

dig420 · 03-29-2003, 02:32 AM

Human teeth from pre-historical periods show a lot of wear from seen and nut eating. I have a minor in Anthro, and although I forgot most of what I learned in school I distinctly remember that meat is kinda hard to come by when you have to hunt it and kill it and most anthropologists speculate that we mostly got by on veggies, grains and nuts with meat when we could get it.

Forward projecting eyes are a characteristic not only of hunters but also of an upright posture, they are a great help in seeing predators on the way. I believe all primates share this trait, and monkeys and gorillas don't eat a lot of meat. Many omnivores have this trait.

I don't want to get into a long discussion about the Atkins diet because I really don't care too awful much, but it seems like common sense to me that a varied diet and a lot of exercise is the best way to go. If you're not exercising and you're still losing weight and you're not fasting, I smell trouble.

hottoddy · 03-29-2003, 02:33 AM

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Originally posted by Lane

but atkins won't stabilize your blood sugar

That's exactly what it does do.

Jakke PNG · 03-29-2003, 05:21 AM

Umm..
okay.
Atkins.
So you have to eat less than 20 carbs per day for 2 weeks? So basically just meat and eggs? That can't be healthy. What if you eat more than that, like 50 grams a day. Will your 'diet' be ruined? That must cause ppl stress.. and suicide.

So every time you eat more than you're supposed to, you have to go on the 2 week only meat-diet?
man.. that would suck. no thanks.
I'm off to make a damn fine sandwitch and fries. cheers.

Non-porn · 03-29-2003, 05:29 AM

Listen..you are thinking wrong. You lost 6 lbs. of fat! Not muscule, not water, but fat. This is the same size of a small bag of dog food. You don't want to lose a lot of weight in generel, but fat.

I have lost a total of 50.lbs of fat. It came out to 13 inches in my waist.

My dick looks huge now!

Hang in there man.

TheSenator · 03-29-2003, 06:11 AM

Can I still drink beer....I mean lots of beer?

Jakke PNG · 03-29-2003, 06:46 AM

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Originally posted by TheSenator
Can I still drink beer....I mean lots of beer?

I don't think so. But if i'm correct, you can drink vodka.. a lot of vodka.

NoCarrier · 03-29-2003, 07:48 AM

It's been almost a month and I lost 25 pounds. I still can't believe it. Almost at my ideal weight. After eating all the bacon, cheese, eggs, ham, sausages.. I lost 25 pounds. And I have more energy. I do not feel sluggish in the afternoon anymore..

This is crazy, when I read the book before beginning I thought this would never work. I mean come on, all that fat!? LOL! All that time it was the damn sugar..

What's cool with Atkins is that you never go hungry and you don't have to count calories..

I also ate all the chocolate I wanted after induction. Well, it's called Ross Chocolates and it does not have any sugar. They are extremely delicious.

FlyingIguana · 03-29-2003, 08:41 AM

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Originally posted by Tala
The first two weeks is called induction. It's the period where you're reprogramming your body to not rely on carbohydrates, instead to get its energy from protiens and the stored fat in your body. You're supposed to use 20 grams of carbs a day rather than 24, though. So the 6 pounds isn't bad at all, considering that you're using 4 extra grams of carbs a day.

I lost 21 pounds in 21 days. Everyone's metabolism is different, though, and so your weight loss may be different than, say, mine. good luck to you!

take in too many carbs and you will gain weight fast. you lose weight because of kurtosis. i believe fat counts for less calories per gram, down to 7 from 9 i think?

NoCarrier · 03-29-2003, 08:44 AM

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Originally posted by FlyingIguana

take in too many carbs and you will gain weight fast. you lose weight because of kurtosis. i believe fat counts for less calories per gram, down to 7 from 9 i think?

The process is called ketosis

FlyingIguana · 03-29-2003, 08:46 AM

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Originally posted by NoCarrier

The process is called ketosis

been a while since i seen that word. like 6 years or so.

Libertine · 03-29-2003, 09:13 AM

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Originally posted by FlyingIguana

take in too many carbs and you will gain weight fast. you lose weight because of kurtosis. i believe fat counts for less calories per gram, down to 7 from 9 i think?

Fat holds twice as many calories as carbohydrates do.

And, there are much easier (and healthier) ways to lose weight than the atkins diet.

gooeycandy · 03-29-2003, 09:48 AM

The Atkins diet has been around since the 60's...long before the liquid fast diets became popular. Both diets are responsible for many gallbladder attacks. If you don't already have gallstones, then watch out! You soon will have them. Whether they develop into a severe GB problem is the unknown.

Sure, you can lose weight standing on your heard slurping cabbage juice, but do you really want to put your poor body through all the abuse. The answer is right before all of us, and we refuse to accept it. Eat a moderate balanced diet and get off your FAT ASS and exercise!

John Travolta is so proud of himself because he buffed up and got into shape for his latest movie. The guy goes up and down like that black singer. Very unhealthy. Travolta said he didn't change his diet, but he worked out every day, 2-3 hours. He looks like shit to me. He weighs too much. Because he is a man, he can bulk up and tone his muscles, believing that he is in shape. That's pure crap if you are taking in shit for food. He will gain back the weight. He will take it easy and stop exercising until his next movie. That is his choice.

We all have a choice. If you are in your 20's, you can take more chances. If you have extremely good genes, you may be able to continue to eat like a pig and live a long life. You may look like porky pig, but again...it's your choice.

Don't try to fool yourself that the Atkins is *the way*!!!! It is a dangerous diet if you stay on it for long. The statistics are against you. YOU WILL GAIN BACK THE WEIGHT.

JFK · 03-29-2003, 10:07 AM

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Originally posted by gooeycandy
The Atkins diet has been around since the 60's...long before the liquid fast diets became popular. Both diets are responsible for many gallbladder attacks. If you don't already have gallstones, then watch out! You soon will have them. Whether they develop into a severe GB problem is the unknown.

Eat a moderate balanced diet and get off your FAT ASS and exercise!

Don't try to fool yourself that the Atkins is *the way*!!!! It is a dangerous diet if you stay on it for long. The statistics are against you. YOU WILL GAIN BACK THE WEIGHT.

You are totally right, I tried Atkins a couple of yrs ago. Lost about 25lbs, then I lost my way , and gained it all back plus some.Got tired of eating the same type of shit.You are used to eating a certain way for your entire life, its hard to change all those habits in a matter of weeks. Like some one suggeted cut back on your intake, and yes get off your ass and walk, or do some other excersize.Extreme weight gain or loss, does not do your heart any good.

Probono · 03-29-2003, 10:10 AM

I tried Atkins years ago, lost 35 pounds. I have put most of it back. It is a difficult diet and not good for your kidneys.

HPsWebHo · 03-29-2003, 10:14 AM

I just found out yesteday that I have diabetes and the doctor recomended atkins for me. I have weak kidneys also. He said that as long as you do this diet reponsily yo will be just fine. The problem most people have is they dont know what they are doing and overdo it.

Jakke PNG · 03-29-2003, 10:21 AM

About the atkins shit..
how do you know what you can eat? I red somewhere that you could eat almost any veggies, and some fruits.
Where in the fuck are you going to know how many carbs a tomato has? Or radish, or some odd fruit or vegetable.
Do you have to weight them all? What the hell?

JFK · 03-29-2003, 10:27 AM

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Originally posted by TeenGodFather
About the atkins shit..
how do you know what you can eat? I red somewhere that you could eat almost any veggies, and some fruits.
Where in the fuck are you going to know how many carbs a tomato has? Or radish, or some odd fruit or vegetable.
Do you have to weight them all? What the hell?

You can buy the book it will give you all the info.

Jakke PNG · 03-29-2003, 10:29 AM

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Originally posted by JFK

You can buy the book it will give you all the info.

it has the amount of carbs of a foreign vegatable? I doubt it.
The question was: How do you know how many carbs something you eat has (if it's not mentioned in the label).
I know the principale of the diet, but I'm curious about the actual counting of carbs.

MikeEP · 03-29-2003, 10:36 AM

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Originally posted by HPsWebHo
I just found out yesteday that I have diabetes

Sorry to hear that.

As for the discussion, there is no miracle to losing wieght. Losing weight has never been rocket science....though people tend to think it is.

Eat responsibly and exercise. What so hard to understand? Why a fancy diet?

Keep this in mind. If you have the discipline to use the Atkins diet consistently, then there's absolutely NO reason you can't be disciplined enough to stay focused on a much 'heathier' diet solution that's 'catered' to YOUR own body makeup.

Just my

JFK · 03-29-2003, 10:53 AM

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Originally posted by TeenGodFather

it has the amount of carbs of a foreign vegatable? I doubt it.
The question was: How do you know how many carbs something you eat has (if it's not mentioned in the label).
I know the principale of the diet, but I'm curious about the actual counting of carbs.

I didnt realise a foreign Carrot had different amount of carbs than a domestic one.

The book has tables of various veggies and their respective content.Some veggies not mentioned by name, are probably in the same family as the ones that are.So tyou can guesstimate.

Gutterboy · 03-29-2003, 10:59 AM

Alot of the initial weightloss on low carb diets is your body losing all its glycogen stores from your muscles and liver. And since water binds with glycogen, you lose alot of that too. Glycogen depletion is also why if you tried you exercise hard, you would have a blood sugar crash and feel exhausted. Glycogen is what your muscles use for hard aerobic exercise, its also what fuels your brain.

If you run down your glycogen enough, your body and brain will bitchslap you. Its not at all pleasant.

You can get a similar effect by jumping on a bike and cycling for 2-3 hours without eating or drinking anything containing carbohydrates.

Lane · 03-29-2003, 11:07 AM

hard part of losing weight is when you start eating you cant stop. therefore you take in too many calories.

to stop eating before getting full is like to stop having sex before having orgasm.. once you start, you wanna go all the way..

tony286 · 03-29-2003, 11:12 AM

Its amazing how many people dont have a clue and those on atkins never took time to read the book . Atkins is not a eat bacon ,eggs and read meat and nothing else diet. In fact I eat more vegetables now then I did my whole life. Fiberious carbs really dont count, so you can eat shitloads of vegatables just none of the starchy ones which basically turn to sugar. Its a low glycemic lifestyle and low glycemic is the best lifestyle to be on. Also eating protein is not hard on the kidney bodybuilders eat anywhere from 300-1000 grams of protien a day and I have never heard of one with kidney problems (My brother was one) On atkins you dont eat anywhere near thast much protein. Also people that have never had a weight problem shouldnt talk about diets because its not their lifestyle but their genetics 99 percent of the time.

Jakke PNG · 03-29-2003, 11:13 AM

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Originally posted by JFK

I didnt realise a foreign Carrot had different amount of carbs than a domestic one.

There actually IS a huge difference.

MandyBlake · 03-29-2003, 11:21 AM

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Originally posted by TeenGodFather
Umm..
okay.
Atkins.
So you have to eat less than 20 carbs per day for 2 weeks? So basically just meat and eggs? That can't be healthy. What if you eat more than that, like 50 grams a day. Will your 'diet' be ruined? That must cause ppl stress.. and suicide.
So every time you eat more than you're supposed to, you have to go on the 2 week only meat-diet?
man.. that would suck. no thanks.
I'm off to make a damn fine sandwitch and fries. cheers.

Who said meat and eggs?
You can and SHOULD eat vegies during induction...broccoli, salads, spinach, cauliflower.
Because of people talking about things they don't know about Atkins has gotten a terrible rap. -It's all eggs and sausage and bacon and steaks with pounds of butter- NOT TRUE!
I really wish people would actually take the time to investigate the Atkins lifestyle before spouting off about it.

Peaches · 03-29-2003, 11:24 AM

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Originally posted by NoCarrier I also ate all the chocolate I wanted after induction. Well, it's called Ross Chocolates and it does not have any sugar. They are extremely delicious. [/B]

Ugh, when I was on Atkins (and I plan on going on it again) I LOVED the Ross. The Ross did NOT love me

Lots of stomach cramps. I can eat about one little square a day, which thankfully became enough to get me over the "craving"

Teengodfather:

http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/cgi-bin/nut_search.pl

is an excellent site to get all kinds of nutritional info for things that don't have their own labels. However, I'm not sure if they list "foreign carrots"

jabula · 03-29-2003, 11:29 AM

The Atkin's diet works very well while you're on it, but if you cheat you'll gain back weight very quickly. I used to use it for 6 days days on & then have 1 meal of totally carbs no protein on the 7th day, which helped keep me sane.
Also, another tip, take plenty of calcium while you're on it to compensate for the dairy products you're not having. Prevents you from getting irritable & sleep better

Good luck & keep up the good work

Jakke PNG · 03-29-2003, 11:35 AM

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Originally posted by Peaches

is an excellent site to get all kinds of nutritional info for things that don't have their own labels. However, I'm not sure if they list "foreign carrots"

lol. Thanks. I'm not gonna go on the diet. I'm just curious.
About the foreign carrots shit.. I just saw some program a few weeks back about the nutritional values of things.. and they compared US and european carrots. heheh.

NoCarrier · 03-29-2003, 11:41 AM

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Originally posted by tony404
Its amazing how many people dont have a clue and those on atkins never took time to read the book . Atkins is not a eat bacon ,eggs and read meat and nothing else diet. In fact I eat more vegetables now then I did my whole life. Fiberious carbs really dont count, so you can eat shitloads of vegatables just none of the starchy ones which basically turn to sugar. Its a low glycemic lifestyle and low glycemic is the best lifestyle to be on. Also eating protein is not hard on the kidney bodybuilders eat anywhere from 300-1000 grams of protien a day and I have never heard of one with kidney problems (My brother was one) On atkins you dont eat anywhere near thast much protein. Also people that have never had a weight problem shouldnt talk about diets because its not their lifestyle but their genetics 99 percent of the time.

You are absolutely right about the vegetables, I have never eaten so many vegetables in my entire life..

Yeah, and doctors are starting to realise that he might be right after all. The low fat, low calories have been a total disaster! When 50% of the population is overweight, there is something wrong.

My blood pressure is finally back to normal.

Marcus · 03-29-2003, 11:41 AM

I just went on that a month ago and lost 12 pounds in 2 weeks. I followed it to the letter though, no diet soda, only drank water, no veggies, no fruit at all, no ketchup (sugar), and took the pills and exercised a lot.

after 2 weeks I went off of it and am doing something else now, but atkins was a good way to get the ball rolling.

NoCarrier · 03-29-2003, 11:43 AM

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Originally posted by Marcus
I just went on that a month ago and lost 12 pounds in 2 weeks. I followed it to the letter though, no diet soda, only drank water, no veggies, no fruit at all, no ketchup (sugar), and took the pills and exercised a lot.

after 2 weeks I went off of it and am doing something else now, but atkins was a good way to get the ball rolling.

You are allowed to eat 2-3 cups of veggies (not all of them) everyday on induction.

Helix · 03-29-2003, 11:43 AM

fyi....any root type veggy is hi in carbs.
ie potatos, carrots, turnips....etc

beeback500 · 03-29-2003, 11:44 AM

When being interviewed Dr. Atkins and his representatives continue to issue this challenge to their distracters: cite ONE medical study that shows or suggests the Atkins diet causes kidney disease, gallbladder problems or any other health risk.

They can?t! They can, however, cite opinions, speculation, innuendo, and antidotal examples, but no facts. While it is true that there are no long term studies (over 6 months) as yet available, doctors at Duke University and Harvard have conducted studies that show the Atkins diet superior to low fat, low calorie diets. And that the dieters, in addition to loosing more weight, actually lowered their bad cholesterol counts while on Atkins.

IMHO it is no coincidence that obesity and diabetes have risen steadily since the instruction of the food pyramid. In fact, the food pyramid does work, if you turn it upside down.

What if the government has been wrong for the last 20 years, perish the thought?

If you are really interested read this article that appeared in the New York Times in July of 2002. Don?t just skim the article. Try and understand the science behind the success of the Atkins Diet.

http://lowcarb.ca/articlesb/article344.html

Check out the Duke and other studies here:

http://lowcarb.ca/

Stop dealing with ?she said?, ?I heard?, ?they think??..and read the facts above?..

You can drink on the Atkins Diet. After induction. The body deals with the alcohol first. Then the fat. So drinking just stalls the process. Michelob Ultra is a specially brewed low cal beer. Under 3 carbs per bottle. Miller Lite is also very low at about 3.5 carbs.

Marcus · 03-29-2003, 11:46 AM

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Originally posted by NoCarrier

You are allowed to eat 2-3 cups of veggies (not all of them) everyday on induction.

I wanted to lose fast so I cut out anything that would slow the process down. Since I was taking all the atkins pills (oils, basic 3, and advantage) I figure I was good.

tony286 · 03-29-2003, 11:51 AM

THen you werent following atkins to the letter and all that weight will come back.

03-29-2003, 12:04 AM	#1
Centurion Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: SeATtle Posts: 6,033	Anyone on Atkin's diet? If you are..got a couple of questions: I've been on it for a little over 3 weeks now. I've been very faithful..no chocolate (miss my m&m's so much!), sugar, etc. Now, what's so special about the first 2 weeks. I keep reading about this..but it's never made real clear why this is so crucial. And, it's during the first 2 weeks you are supposed to keep your carb intake below 24 grams a day? Then after that, you can raise it to 30 grams a day? Just trying to make sure I got the "steps" down right. Oh, I've lost of whopping 6 pounds so far. Yes, I do work out too. So, is this about normal for this diet..lose about 2 pounds a week? Another reason I'm asking is that I remember someone on here saying they had lost like 50 pounds in..I THINK they said, one month!

03-29-2003, 12:17 AM	#5
Tala Fucked if I know Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Do you have a flag? Posts: 23,368	The first two weeks is called induction. It's the period where you're reprogramming your body to not rely on carbohydrates, instead to get its energy from protiens and the stored fat in your body. You're supposed to use 20 grams of carbs a day rather than 24, though. So the 6 pounds isn't bad at all, considering that you're using 4 extra grams of carbs a day. I lost 21 pounds in 21 days. Everyone's metabolism is different, though, and so your weight loss may be different than, say, mine. good luck to you! __________________ ICQ: 11120676 \| Google: mindcrime \| Skype: suitemindcrime\|E-Mail: mindcrime AT gmail.com\|PR girl with great writing skills for hire!!!! Contact me to work for YOU!\|TECHIEMEDIA? 24/7 support from some of the best techs in the biz. Tell Jim that I sent you.

03-29-2003, 12:21 AM	#6
Lane Will code for food... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Buckeye, AZ Posts: 8,496	losing weight by screwing up the balance of your food intake is not a good choice.. get your ass up and exercise.. you'll feel a lot better and not have to suffer the consequenses of low blood sugar __________________

03-29-2003, 12:35 AM	#9
PersianKitty Meow Media Inc. Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: In the valley of the sun, cactus, tacos, tequila, and nod Posts: 7,785	Zone Diet... intake of 40% carbs, 30% proteins and 30% fats (good fats that is). ie.. modified atkins.. AND one of the best side effects is that it will help stabilize your blood sugar. There's an everygrowing biz right now of companies in major cities that deliver zone meals daily to your home (3 meals and 2 snacks a day) http://www.zoneperfect.com/ http://www.drsears.com/ __________________ Wondering what webmaster programs PK uses? Check them out here!

03-29-2003, 02:30 AM	#15
High Quality Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 5,741	Cent, I did the atkins for a while. I lost like 14 lbs in the first 2 weeks or so. The problem is that you're eating too many carbs I think. I ate like 10 g or less for the first 2 weeks to kick into ketosis. One thing to look out for is fucken fiber issues. Make sure you drink plenty of water or you're gunna be shitting bricks. Good luck to you. __________________ RecurCash.com - Averaging $38/sale with 60% revshare in the first 4 months alone! Convert your TEEN traffic today @ better than 1:500 guaranteed. ICQ me: 18287590!

03-29-2003, 12:06 AM	#2
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	Who much weight do you want to lose ?If have a lot to lose stay at the lo carbs. A good place to go is www.atkinsfriends.com

03-29-2003, 12:10 AM	#3
dig420 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 9,240	http://www.setgo.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=56 be careful with that diet

03-29-2003, 02:22 AM	#14
Danielle Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: My Coffin Posts: 1,227	Been on Atkins for years and I feel 10 times more healthy then I ever have. Cholesterol and blood preasure have droped big time! Blood sugar has normalized! Just remember! Atkins is a lifestyle! Not a diet! Don't forget the exercise either. Here are some things to consider and keep in mind when you start hearing all the people saying that Atkins is bad, etc, etc..... People (and even some ill-informed doctors) often confuse ketosis, which is a perfectly normal metabolic process, with ketoacidosis, which is a life-threatening condition. The latter is the consequence of insulin-deficient subjects having out-of-control blood sugar levels, a condition that can occur as well in alcoholics and people in a state of extreme starvation. Ketosis and ketoacidosis may sound vaguely alike, but the two conditions are virtually polar opposites and can always be distinguished from each other by the fact that the diabetic has been consuming excessive carbohydrates and has high blood sugar, in sharp contrast to the fortunate person who is doing Atkins. Almost everyone enters ketosis almost every day. Yet we're not all kicking the bucket. Morning breath is pretty much "ketone breath". As you sleep, you have gone eight to twelve hours without food. Your body is no longer running on carbs, but on ketones: broken down fat. Add to that the fact that you cannot burn body fat without breaking that fat into ketones. That is just how it works. If you are losing weight and not producing ketones you are burning muscle! Now how about the people that say "The most natural diet for a human is a vegetarian diet" 100,000 years ago man-kind ate mostly meat. 100,000 years is not enough time for a digestive track to evolve to properly proces twinkies. Preditors (meat eaters) have two eyes on the front of their head to help them judge the distance to their prey. Vegy eaters do not. Now many say "Fat causes heart disease" The eskimo diet was 95% fat from whale blubber a short while ago. At that time, they never heard of heart problems. We introduce them to twinkies and now their dropping like flies from heart disease. Now you hear this every day "Fat makes you fat" And eating sugar makes you sweet? Eating Nutrasweet makes you artificial? Eating cheesecake makes you rich? Eating Froot Loops makes you loopy? Corn makes you corny? What happens with a snickers bar? A hundred thousand dollar bar? Fruit? Junk food (sometimes called "crap")? Cheesy poofs? LOL! The final result is.... If you eat great gobs of fat and carbs, some of the fat will be stored and some of the carbs will be converted to fat and stored. Skip the carbs and the extra fat is just not digested. Skip the fat and the extra carbs are still turned into fat. Hmmmmmm. Think about it.... One other thing. Never cook meat at very high temeratures. That can cause transfatty acids to be produced. They are bad! Regular fat is good. Artificail (transfatty acids) are bad. Hugs, Danielle

03-29-2003, 02:32 AM	#16
dig420 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 9,240	Human teeth from pre-historical periods show a lot of wear from seen and nut eating. I have a minor in Anthro, and although I forgot most of what I learned in school I distinctly remember that meat is kinda hard to come by when you have to hunt it and kill it and most anthropologists speculate that we mostly got by on veggies, grains and nuts with meat when we could get it. Forward projecting eyes are a characteristic not only of hunters but also of an upright posture, they are a great help in seeing predators on the way. I believe all primates share this trait, and monkeys and gorillas don't eat a lot of meat. Many omnivores have this trait. I don't want to get into a long discussion about the Atkins diet because I really don't care too awful much, but it seems like common sense to me that a varied diet and a lot of exercise is the best way to go. If you're not exercising and you're still losing weight and you're not fasting, I smell trouble.

03-29-2003, 05:21 AM	#18
Jakke PNG ex-TeenGodFather Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Suomi Finland Perkele Posts: 20,306	Umm.. okay. Atkins. So you have to eat less than 20 carbs per day for 2 weeks? So basically just meat and eggs? That can't be healthy. What if you eat more than that, like 50 grams a day. Will your 'diet' be ruined? That must cause ppl stress.. and suicide. So every time you eat more than you're supposed to, you have to go on the 2 week only meat-diet? man.. that would suck. no thanks. I'm off to make a damn fine sandwitch and fries. cheers. __________________ ..and I'm off.

03-29-2003, 05:29 AM	#19
Non-porn Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In your frig drinking your beer. Posts: 61	Listen..you are thinking wrong. You lost 6 lbs. of fat! Not muscule, not water, but fat. This is the same size of a small bag of dog food. You don't want to lose a lot of weight in generel, but fat. I have lost a total of 50.lbs of fat. It came out to 13 inches in my waist. My dick looks huge now! Hang in there man. __________________ “My doctors told me I have a multiple personality disorder” ..We disagree- Last edited by Non-porn; 03-29-2003 at 05:36 AM..

03-29-2003, 06:11 AM	#20
TheSenator Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 13,336	Can I still drink beer....I mean lots of beer?

03-29-2003, 07:48 AM	#22
NoCarrier We need more free porn Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 16,356	It's been almost a month and I lost 25 pounds. I still can't believe it. Almost at my ideal weight. After eating all the bacon, cheese, eggs, ham, sausages.. I lost 25 pounds. And I have more energy. I do not feel sluggish in the afternoon anymore.. This is crazy, when I read the book before beginning I thought this would never work. I mean come on, all that fat!? LOL! All that time it was the damn sugar.. What's cool with Atkins is that you never go hungry and you don't have to count calories.. I also ate all the chocolate I wanted after induction. Well, it's called Ross Chocolates and it does not have any sugar. They are extremely delicious. __________________ Last edited by NoCarrier; 03-29-2003 at 08:44 AM..

03-29-2003, 09:48 AM	#27
gooeycandy Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 92	The Atkins diet has been around since the 60's...long before the liquid fast diets became popular. Both diets are responsible for many gallbladder attacks. If you don't already have gallstones, then watch out! You soon will have them. Whether they develop into a severe GB problem is the unknown. Sure, you can lose weight standing on your heard slurping cabbage juice, but do you really want to put your poor body through all the abuse. The answer is right before all of us, and we refuse to accept it. Eat a moderate balanced diet and get off your FAT ASS and exercise! John Travolta is so proud of himself because he buffed up and got into shape for his latest movie. The guy goes up and down like that black singer. Very unhealthy. Travolta said he didn't change his diet, but he worked out every day, 2-3 hours. He looks like shit to me. He weighs too much. Because he is a man, he can bulk up and tone his muscles, believing that he is in shape. That's pure crap if you are taking in shit for food. He will gain back the weight. He will take it easy and stop exercising until his next movie. That is his choice. We all have a choice. If you are in your 20's, you can take more chances. If you have extremely good genes, you may be able to continue to eat like a pig and live a long life. You may look like porky pig, but again...it's your choice. Don't try to fool yourself that the Atkins is the way!!!! It is a dangerous diet if you stay on it for long. The statistics are against you. YOU WILL GAIN BACK THE WEIGHT.

03-29-2003, 10:10 AM	#29
Probono Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Under the Rainbow Posts: 2,731	I tried Atkins years ago, lost 35 pounds. I have put most of it back. It is a difficult diet and not good for your kidneys.

03-29-2003, 10:14 AM	#30
HPsWebHo Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Seattle Area Posts: 566	I just found out yesteday that I have diabetes and the doctor recomended atkins for me. I have weak kidneys also. He said that as long as you do this diet reponsily yo will be just fine. The problem most people have is they dont know what they are doing and overdo it.

03-29-2003, 10:21 AM	#31
Jakke PNG ex-TeenGodFather Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Suomi Finland Perkele Posts: 20,306	About the atkins shit.. how do you know what you can eat? I red somewhere that you could eat almost any veggies, and some fruits. Where in the fuck are you going to know how many carbs a tomato has? Or radish, or some odd fruit or vegetable. Do you have to weight them all? What the hell? __________________ ..and I'm off.

03-29-2003, 10:59 AM	#36
Gutterboy So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Dis Posts: 4,751	Alot of the initial weightloss on low carb diets is your body losing all its glycogen stores from your muscles and liver. And since water binds with glycogen, you lose alot of that too. Glycogen depletion is also why if you tried you exercise hard, you would have a blood sugar crash and feel exhausted. Glycogen is what your muscles use for hard aerobic exercise, its also what fuels your brain. If you run down your glycogen enough, your body and brain will bitchslap you. Its not at all pleasant. You can get a similar effect by jumping on a bike and cycling for 2-3 hours without eating or drinking anything containing carbohydrates. Last edited by Gutterboy; 03-29-2003 at 11:02 AM..

03-29-2003, 11:07 AM	#37
Lane Will code for food... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Buckeye, AZ Posts: 8,496	hard part of losing weight is when you start eating you cant stop. therefore you take in too many calories. to stop eating before getting full is like to stop having sex before having orgasm.. once you start, you wanna go all the way.. __________________

03-29-2003, 11:12 AM	#38
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	Its amazing how many people dont have a clue and those on atkins never took time to read the book . Atkins is not a eat bacon ,eggs and read meat and nothing else diet. In fact I eat more vegetables now then I did my whole life. Fiberious carbs really dont count, so you can eat shitloads of vegatables just none of the starchy ones which basically turn to sugar. Its a low glycemic lifestyle and low glycemic is the best lifestyle to be on. Also eating protein is not hard on the kidney bodybuilders eat anywhere from 300-1000 grams of protien a day and I have never heard of one with kidney problems (My brother was one) On atkins you dont eat anywhere near thast much protein. Also people that have never had a weight problem shouldnt talk about diets because its not their lifestyle but their genetics 99 percent of the time.

03-29-2003, 11:29 AM	#42
jabula Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,037	The Atkin's diet works very well while you're on it, but if you cheat you'll gain back weight very quickly. I used to use it for 6 days days on & then have 1 meal of totally carbs no protein on the 7th day, which helped keep me sane. Also, another tip, take plenty of calcium while you're on it to compensate for the dairy products you're not having. Prevents you from getting irritable & sleep better Good luck & keep up the good work __________________ Need A Great Adult Host? Last edited by jabula; 03-29-2003 at 11:32 AM..

03-29-2003, 11:41 AM	#45
Marcus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 3,472	I just went on that a month ago and lost 12 pounds in 2 weeks. I followed it to the letter though, no diet soda, only drank water, no veggies, no fruit at all, no ketchup (sugar), and took the pills and exercised a lot. after 2 weeks I went off of it and am doing something else now, but atkins was a good way to get the ball rolling.

03-29-2003, 11:43 AM	#47
Helix Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Michigan Posts: 5,999	fyi....any root type veggy is hi in carbs. ie potatos, carrots, turnips....etc

03-29-2003, 11:44 AM	#48
beeback500 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 61	When being interviewed Dr. Atkins and his representatives continue to issue this challenge to their distracters: cite ONE medical study that shows or suggests the Atkins diet causes kidney disease, gallbladder problems or any other health risk. They can?t! They can, however, cite opinions, speculation, innuendo, and antidotal examples, but no facts. While it is true that there are no long term studies (over 6 months) as yet available, doctors at Duke University and Harvard have conducted studies that show the Atkins diet superior to low fat, low calorie diets. And that the dieters, in addition to loosing more weight, actually lowered their bad cholesterol counts while on Atkins. IMHO it is no coincidence that obesity and diabetes have risen steadily since the instruction of the food pyramid. In fact, the food pyramid does work, if you turn it upside down. What if the government has been wrong for the last 20 years, perish the thought? If you are really interested read this article that appeared in the New York Times in July of 2002. Don?t just skim the article. Try and understand the science behind the success of the Atkins Diet. http://lowcarb.ca/articlesb/article344.html Check out the Duke and other studies here: http://lowcarb.ca/ Stop dealing with ?she said?, ?I heard?, ?they think??..and read the facts above?.. You can drink on the Atkins Diet. After induction. The body deals with the alcohol first. Then the fat. So drinking just stalls the process. Michelob Ultra is a specially brewed low cal beer. Under 3 carbs per bottle. Miller Lite is also very low at about 3.5 carbs.

03-29-2003, 11:51 AM	#50
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	THen you werent following atkins to the letter and all that weight will come back.