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The Demon 05-31-2010 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius (Post 17194770)
Israel's propaganda machine FAIL - raw video of IDF firing on ships before boarding:



""In what could be a serious blow to Israel's narrative on the killing of at least nine humanitarian activists making their way to Gaza through international waters, raw video by an Al Jazeera producer, who was filming during the raid, appears to provide evidence that the IDF opened fire on the flotilla even before boarding it."


+1 for being objective. LOL

_Richard_ 05-31-2010 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 17194724)
hey man never argue with an idiot because they will reduce you to their level and beat you with expertise. :winkwink:

bullseye haha

Rochard 05-31-2010 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius (Post 17194601)
You failed right there. It's called collective punishment, and it's illegal.

That's like saying "war is illegal".

It's not "collective punishment". They aren't trying to punish anyone. What they are trying to do is restrict the flow of weapons going into this area.

The Demon 05-31-2010 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 17194784)
bullseye haha

Totally, I just explained in kindergarden terms how you lack reading comprehension skills, and you invoked your defense mechanism known as denial:)

_Richard_ 05-31-2010 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17194790)
Totally, I just explained in kindergarden terms how you lack reading comprehension skills, and you invoked your defense mechanism known as denial:)

surely you meant to spell 'kindergarten' rather than the common misspelling of 'kindergarden'

and it's all just an amusing coincidence the irony of it all

mayabong 05-31-2010 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 17194792)
surely you meant to spell 'kindergarten' rather than the common misspelling of 'kindergarden'

and it's all just an amusing coincidence the irony of it all

hhahah:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Rochard 05-31-2010 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AtlantisCash (Post 17194667)

Guys, 16 innocent civilians have been died, which excuse can cover this?

How are they innocent? Are they innocent in the way that drug dealers off the coast of Florida are innocent when they are boarded by force?

They refused to stop and submit to an inspection. That's international law and Israel's right. When they refused, they became criminals.

mayabong 05-31-2010 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17194796)
How are they innocent? Are they innocent in the way that drug dealers off the coast of Florida are innocent when they are boarded by force?

They refused to stop and submit to an inspection. That's international law and Israel's right. When they refused, they became criminals.

in international waters? Gotta love how people take up for these murderers.

Rochard 05-31-2010 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 17194671)
Some of you may find this article interesting.

http://politicalmavens.com/index.php...n-israel-best/

Some excerpts...

77% Palestinian Arabs: We like Living in Israel best
By Judith A. Klinghoffer (bio)

It is difficult to find a more neglected story than the relative satisfaction of Palestinian Arabs living in Israel as is revealed from a recent Harvard Study. (Palestinians Arabs (including those living in greater Jerusalem) constitute 20% of the population). Aware of inconvenient polls which reveal that Palestinian living in Israel are vehemently opposed to becoming citizens of Palestine, the researchers did their best to lower the satisfaction number by phrasing the question so as to receive the most negative number. They asked Palestinian Arab if they would rather live in Israel or in any other country in the world.

77% of the State of Israel?s Arab citizens would rather live in the Jewish state than in any other country in the world, according to a new study titled ?Coexistence in Israel?. The study was aimed at examining the relations between Israel?s Jewish and Arab citizens on the State?s 60th anniversary, and included 1,721 respondents.

Other polls similarly demonstrate that to achieve better integration, most of the Arab citizens of Israel support voluntary national service. They are not subject to compulsory military service though they may volunteer to serve and some do.

Yet a poll carried out by University of Haifa last month revealed that 75 percent of Israeli Arabs between the ages of 16 and 22 support voluntary national service. The poll also found that the vast majority of the Arab public is unaware of the national service. 77.4 percent overall and 79.6 percent of youth said they know little or nothing about the program. Moreover, the poll found that once given basic information about conditions in the national service and its goals, not only were Israeli Arab youth supportive of the idea, but so were 71.9 percent of all Arab men and 83.8 percent of all Arab women. In contrast, some 80 percent of members of Arab political parties opposed national service.

In other words, ideological diatribes aside, the attitudes of Israeli Arabs demonstrates that the Jewish state is doing a pretty good job accommodating it?s large Palestinian minority despite the trying circumstances under which she is forced to live.

That's amazing really. Who knew.

The Demon 05-31-2010 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 17194792)
surely you meant to spell 'kindergarten' rather than the common misspelling of 'kindergarden'

and it's all just an amusing coincidence the irony of it all

No, that's a misspelled word. You lack the ability to read. Actually, you can't even use "irony" in the proper context:) Too easy

The Demon 05-31-2010 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17194799)
in international waters? Gotta love how people take up for these murderers.

Gotta love how conspiracy nut cases lack the ability to present evidence and live in reality. Stay off the hash pipe:)

Rochard 05-31-2010 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius (Post 17194675)
Israel is the occupying power in the West Bank and Gaza. I know I'm arguing with an ignorant Zionist, but that's how it is, and under international law, Israel is responsible for the welfare of the citizens of Gaza.

I'm confused. Didn't they have elections, and didn't they vote an terrorist group into power which is now more or less their government? If they have their own free standing government, it's their government who needs to ensure your citizens have enough to eat. Then again, if your government is really a band of terrorists who does nothing but piss of their neighbors - including Egypt - well then, it's up to the government of Gaza to fucking take care of it's people. Which they can't seem to do.

_Richard_ 05-31-2010 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17194804)
No, that's a misspelled word. You lack the ability to read. Actually, you can't even use "irony" in the proper context:) Too easy

at least i have spelling

Rochard 05-31-2010 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17194739)
Did they have a right to defend their ship with armed men boarding in international waters? yes or no?

No, they do not. According to international law, once they are within a certain distance of a country that country legally has the right to inspect the ship and the cargo.

mayabong 05-31-2010 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17194805)
Gotta love how conspiracy nut cases lack the ability to present evidence and live in reality. Stay off the hash pipe:)

blah blah my grandma was in the holocaust blah blah, heard it a million times.

The Demon 05-31-2010 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 17194705)
you often find yourself laughing, to yourself?

Unfortunately not reading comprehension, grammar, or logical deducing skills:)

mayabong 05-31-2010 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17194810)
No, they do not. According to international law, once they are within a certain distance of a country that country legally has the right to inspect the ship and the cargo.

12 or so miles yes?

The Demon 05-31-2010 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17194813)
blah blah my grandma was in the holocaust blah blah, heard it a million times.

Blah blah you're all sheep blah blah the Holocaust never happened blah blah 9/11 was an inside job.

_Richard_ 05-31-2010 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17194810)
No, they do not. According to international law, once they are within a certain distance of a country that country legally has the right to inspect the ship and the cargo.

so what is your thoughts on Somalia then?

Marcus Aurelius 05-31-2010 07:20 PM

400 zionists

_Richard_ 05-31-2010 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17194815)
Unfortunately not reading comprehension, grammar, or logical deducing skills:)

well for grammar, you couldn't use two single ideas and then a slew of words to describe whatever you're trying to say

so you could say 'reading comprehension, grammar, or logic'

or

'lack reading comprehension, ability to use grammar, or logical deducing skills'

or you can fuck it all and go

'reading comprehension, ability to use grammar, or logical deducing skills'

and isn't all deduction logical, if used correctly?

The Demon 05-31-2010 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 17194826)
well for grammar, you couldn't use two single ideas and then a slew of words to describe whatever you're trying to say

so you could say 'reading comprehension, grammar, or logic'

or

'lack reading comprehension, ability to use grammar, or logical deducing skills'

or you can fuck it all and go

'reading comprehension, ability to use grammar, or logical deducing skills'

and isn't all deduction logical, if used correctly?

Actually, nothing you said makes any sense seeing as how what I said was correct. And yes, all deduction is logical if used correctly. You lack logical deducing skills, ergo you lack the ability to make a logical deduction? Am I going too fast for you?

mayabong 05-31-2010 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17194820)
Blah blah you're all sheep blah blah the Holocaust never happened blah blah 9/11 was an inside job.

9/11 was done by a guy in a cave everyone knows that.

_Richard_ 05-31-2010 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius (Post 17194770)
Israel's propaganda machine FAIL - raw video of IDF firing on ships before boarding:



""In what could be a serious blow to Israel's narrative on the killing of at least nine humanitarian activists making their way to Gaza through international waters, raw video by an Al Jazeera producer, who was filming during the raid, appears to provide evidence that the IDF opened fire on the flotilla even before boarding it."

just wait for all the weapons tehy're going to find, after the ships are in port

_Richard_ 05-31-2010 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17194829)
Actually, nothing you said makes any sense seeing as how what I said was correct. And yes, all deduction is logical if used correctly. You lack logical deducing skills, ergo you lack the ability to make a logical deduction? Am I going too fast for you?

it's not correct no

mayabong 05-31-2010 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 17194832)
just wait for all the weapons tehy're going to find, after the ships are in port

That'll be the kicker.

The Demon 05-31-2010 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 17194834)
it's not correct no

Prove it:)

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-31-2010 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 17194832)
just wait for all the weapons tehy're going to find, after the ships are in port

Kinda like chemical weapons in Iraq.

_Richard_ 05-31-2010 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17194836)
That'll be the kicker.

i don't get the big strategy honestly.. the jewish population controls the government, now.

In 60 years they're going to be a small minority in that country.. so if they're planning on moving away from the democracy model, this all makes sense

but if they aren't, why are they ostracizing everyone they can against the nation created?

Turkey is either one of the few, if not only, Arab country in the region allied to them

_Richard_ 05-31-2010 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fbomb (Post 17194841)
Kinda like chemical weapons in Iraq.

i heard the US sold them those weapons.. in a program run by a dude down in mexico who just happened to go to the same highschool that crazy fuck who made jonestown was from

who knew the iraqis were actually cooperating and the years of sanctions and UN-run/scammed were pointless

_Richard_ 05-31-2010 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17194840)
Prove it:)

i already gave you the true spelling of kindergarten and other pearls of wisdom you skipped over

i'm tapped out dude

mayabong 05-31-2010 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 17194844)
i don't get the big strategy honestly.. the jewish population controls the government, now.

In 60 years they're going to be a small minority in that country.. so if they're planning on moving away from the democracy model, this all makes sense

but if they aren't, why are they ostracizing everyone they can against the nation created?

Turkey is either one of the few, if not only, Arab country in the region allied to them

I recommend Jack Bernsteen's online book it was written in 1985 and he was killed by teh mossad a little later, but he pretty much spilled the beans about Israel and the Future of america if it didn't wake up.

Very Very Short Read

Life of an American Jew in Racist Marxist Israel.

http://www.the7thfire.com/new_world_...ist_israel.htm

The Demon 05-31-2010 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 17194849)
i already gave you the true spelling of kindergarten and other pearls of wisdom you skipped over

i'm tapped out dude

Yup, you corrected my spelling, I ridiculed you further with evidence, you made up a bunch of shit and passed it off as fact, I guess mission accomplished:)

onwebcam 05-31-2010 07:37 PM

Syria, Lebanon say flotilla attack can lead to war

DPA
May 31, 2010

Syrian President Bashar al?Assad and Lebanese Prime Minister Saad Hariri said on Monday that Israel?s attack on a flotilla of aid bound for Gaza threatens to ignite a war in the region.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/syria-le...ad-to-war.html



Turkey Kicks It Up a Notch
by BooMan
Mon May 31st, 2010 at 02:57:45 PM EST

Well, now Israel has done it. They have actually provoked Turkey to the point that they may start a war over this incident massacre:

Turkey has threatened Israel with unprecedented action after Israeli forces attacked an aid vessel, killing 10 peace activists headed to Gaza.
Israel said 10 people died while those on the ship said at least 15 were killed.

A shocked world has responded with outrage. Turkey recalled its ambassador to Israel and warned of unprecedented and incalculable reprisals.

Two Turkish activists were reported to be among those killed in the flotilla. Ankara warned that further supply vessels will be sent to Gaza, escorted by the Turkish Navy, a development with unpredictable consequences.

Israel has sounded an alert throughout the country fearing rocket attacks by Hezbollah in Lebanon.

If Turkey is promising to send new supplies with naval escort, then we're headed for an epic showdown between two of Americas closest allies. I don't think Obama is getting too much rest and relaxation this Memorial Day.

http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2010/5/31/145745/341

_Richard_ 05-31-2010 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17194851)
Yup, you corrected my spelling, I ridiculed you further with evidence, you made up a bunch of shit and passed it off as fact, I guess mission accomplished:)

not that i'm going to waste any time looking, but i'm reasonably sure you haven't stated any facts at all

_Richard_ 05-31-2010 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 17194860)
Syria, Lebanon say flotilla attack can lead to war

DPA
May 31, 2010

Syrian President Bashar al?Assad and Lebanese Prime Minister Saad Hariri said on Monday that Israel?s attack on a flotilla of aid bound for Gaza threatens to ignite a war in the region.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/syria-le...ad-to-war.html



Turkey Kicks It Up a Notch
by BooMan
Mon May 31st, 2010 at 02:57:45 PM EST

Well, now Israel has done it. They have actually provoked Turkey to the point that they may start a war over this incident massacre:

Turkey has threatened Israel with unprecedented action after Israeli forces attacked an aid vessel, killing 10 peace activists headed to Gaza.
Israel said 10 people died while those on the ship said at least 15 were killed.

A shocked world has responded with outrage. Turkey recalled its ambassador to Israel and warned of unprecedented and incalculable reprisals.

Two Turkish activists were reported to be among those killed in the flotilla. Ankara warned that further supply vessels will be sent to Gaza, escorted by the Turkish Navy, a development with unpredictable consequences.

Israel has sounded an alert throughout the country fearing rocket attacks by Hezbollah in Lebanon.

If Turkey is promising to send new supplies with naval escort, then we're headed for an epic showdown between two of Americas closest allies. I don't think Obama is getting too much rest and relaxation this Memorial Day.

http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2010/5/31/145745/341

ahh the big picture.

Turkey is a part of Nato, if i recall

Rochard 05-31-2010 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17194818)
12 or so miles yes?

Your talking about the Contiguous zone - according to international law. However, this is commonly extended to a minimum of twenty-four miles, and in some cases can be pretty much be anything the host country so decides. You know, because when dealing with international laws, you want to be as fucking vague as possible.

Seems to me that in this area the zone is anything the host country so decides. I tried to find something specific to Israel, but of course I couldn't.

moeloubani 05-31-2010 07:46 PM

Those of who you support Israel, Rochard and theking and the likes of you, simply condone the murder of innocent people.

More than that you condone the murder of aid workers.

Nothing you say matters, you are monsters and filth and on any moral spectrum anywhere you rank just below rapists who let their victims live. Just remember that, and keep thinking to yourselves that you are good people, you ignorant scum.

Rochard 05-31-2010 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 17194821)
so what is your thoughts on Somalia then?

Okay, that's just plain stupid. In fact, I'll call you a fucking idiot for that comment.

There is a staggering difference between a bunch of criminals getting into a boat and kidnapping people, ships, and cargo for ransom compared to a a very strong government navy warship ordering a ship running a blockade to stop.

mayabong 05-31-2010 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17194877)
Okay, that's just plain stupid. In fact, I'll call you a fucking idiot for that comment.

There is a staggering difference between a bunch of criminals getting into a boat and kidnapping people, ships, and cargo for ransom compared to a a very strong government navy warship ordering a ship running a blockade to stop.

http://rense.com/1.imagesH/deesartt.jpg


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