Jesus Christ was killed by the Jews. they are suckers!

http://www.jewishsearch.com/images/a...ory-id-708.jpg

Are you sure that the UK has that many there now...and isn't the UK preparing to withdraw their forces?

Rochard, their knowledge based on commercials, TV, conspiracy theories, UN bordello, International laws, International community and other shit created for them :)

The world of strategies focused on gaining Power, the big game, Realpolitik - the first rule of politics for politicians. It's immoral ;)

(The term by Ludwig von Rochau, 19th century, Germany)

Consider just Power, not your pure ideals, morals, principles. Weak should die. Animal world.

Nowdays turks kill Kurds, by bombing their villages... and who cares? Fuck it, It's not on TV! News corporations see no commercial interest going to Kurdistan...

Now, same time, Turkey supports flotilia "free Gaza" (with a thousand man for TV, no food), and becomes biggest regional Player! (what about Kurdistan, Armenians etc?)

Send them to free Darfur they won't go :) No TV, no Romantics, no Power

Rochard, u discuss with these pure/average idiots (stupid naive majority) full of hate created by commercial media. It's not your league :) Your knowledge is much richer, based on facts.

With all its sadness, I see it Positive. Some smart men who see the reality convert it into personal profits ;) More idiots with lack of worldly wisdom we have, better for us ;)

Manipulate them, give them what they want, that shit to eat and they will pay you! :)

Kosovo does indeed have a lot of coal. They aren?t huge deposits by world standards, but they?re pretty big ? the biggest in the region, fifth or sixth biggest in Europe. Beside that Kosovo is biggest drug smuggling center in Europe (become after US help) and place where real infrastructure exist for years together with cheap workers. It is really strange that with only several (but important) things that I've showed you think US is motivated by moral. US armed Kosovo muslims and used them as cannon fooder for their goals. There is major military base in Balkans and with taking out Kosovo from serbia all facotires there and infrastructure is simple taken from other people (others time and investement and before start to believe to what you see on CNN; take a look how much money is invested in Kosovo in previous 40 years, and that money was from Slovenia, Croatia, Serbia... just to try to make those people civilized and to force them work honestyl and educate). US have interest or it wouldn't be there. If it is moral motivation, US would help palestinians, or dozen fucked up countries worldwide that really needed help).... I've promised that I won't write more about and this is Israel based subject, but just take a a look into statistics about level of crime,smuggling (people, and drugs) where are they now and why US didn't help them? You can use any source, or save your time and take a look here: http://www.wsws.org/articles/1999/apr1999/kla-a10.shtml . Also, just to figure out what us is helping and what is military job there, google for : " Yellow House" or read about organ harvesting here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_theft_in_Kosovo

Since I've already been i situations like this with other people, next stage is denial of resource credibility. let me save your time and you can easily see who wrote a book about Yellow House and organ harvesting (take a note when organ harvesting happened). it was written by chief prossecuttor against Milosevic , Carla Del Ponte - of course in years after everything was finished. http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/documen...el_ponte.shtml

if its not collective punishment, why do they limit the amount of humanitarian aid that is allowed in? or ban luxury goods, raw materials, tin cans, fresh meat, exports etc? what's that got to do with the "flow of weapons"?

positive, it has 9,500 normal troops and 500 special forces, here's a breakdown as of december 2009, britain and the US have both increased numbers since then: and remember that the british troops have been on the front line taking heavy casualties in helmand province for a long time, not taking a backseat support role.

United States 34,800

Britain 9,000

Germany 4,365

France 3,095

Canada 2,830

Italy 2,795

Netherlands 2,160

Poland 1,910

Australia 1,350

Spain 1,000

Romania 990

Turkey 720

Denmark 700

Czech Republic 690

Belgium 530

Norway 480

Bulgaria 460

Bosnia 460

Sweden 430

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TOTAL 68,765

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSGEE5B02DL

I'm sure the people of Palestine, don't see them as terrorists, more like democratically elected freedom fighters. just like the people of Israel don't see the Israeli army as terrorists, but innocent Palestinian women and children are killed on a regular basis by them. in the situation in that part of the world there's not much difference between the two sides actions, and the word terrorist is thrown around depending on what side of the fence you sit, not because one side is and the other is an innocent party.

how exactly are they meant to feed the people when all raw materials such as margarine needed for baking etc are banned by Israel?

On CNN.com today...

Israeli military gives version of flotilla incident:

Three Israeli choppers with 15 soldiers aboard and several commando boats were involved in a skirmish with activists on a flotilla seeking to defy an Israeli blockade and deliver aid to Gaza, a senior military official said Monday on condition of anonymity.

Nine people were killed in the resulting violence early Monday as Israeli troops attempted to stop the flotilla.

An Israeli commando said upon descending into a boat with ropes, he was immediately attacked by a group of people.

"They beat us up with metal sticks and knives," he said. "There was live fire at some point against us... They were shooting at us from below deck."

Some of the soldiers were tossed from the top deck to a lower deck by the activists, and jumped in the water to save themselves, he said.
Video: 'It's outrageous'

Activists grabbed soldiers and tried to hold them hostage, stripping them of their helmets and equipment, he said. About 30 activists, all speaking Arabic, carried out the attack, he said.

Activists have said the Israeli soldiers opened fire on unarmed civilians. Neither account could be independently verified by CNN.

i'm confused, who knows what they were speaking, if nothing could be verified?

International law says that when your off the coast of a country, that country has the right to stop you and inspect you and your cargo. If you don't stop, international law says they have the right to physically fucking stop you. When I say "physically fucking stop you" I mean sinking the ship.

I was thinking about this early this morning when I was taking my morning dump. This is like five police officers coming to my front door because they have a legal search warrant and I send out twenty guys armed with pipes to beat them.

not sure what you mean not all at once, the UK has 10k troops on the ground there NOW, they're obviously rotated but the ones that leave are replaced.

and the UK obviously can't commit as many men as the US considering your military has 7.5x as many men compared to the UK, but up until December the US only had 3x as many troops in Afghanistan as the UK. the British has also lost nearly 300 soldiers in action out there so for you to say there contribution is minimal is ignorant.

In this thread alone I've been accused of siding with the Israelis for "whatever reason". The truth is more like I don't condone a lot of their actions. I understand this a difficult situation for them, but clearly the Israeli interests is in taking over more territory, as much as they can, even if it's very slowly. I honestly believe that Gaza will eventually be over run by the Israelis - They'll do something really stupid and Israel will say "We were attacked again, blah blah blah, and we are done with this" and they'll take it over and be done with it.

These areas will all over run by the Israelis, and wrongfully so. They need to stop building now.

But the only country able to stop them is the one country that has no interest in doing so.

Yeah, the United States is the root of all fucking evil.

Japan - Clearly we attacked Japan first.
Germany - Seems to me we were trying to stay out of that.
Korea - Didn't North invade South and we attempted to defend them?
Vietnam? - Clearly the US started that long before the French got their asses kicked there.
Afghanistan - Obviously the United States encouraged Russia to invade so we can defend them.
Iraq - The United States secretly invaded Kuwait and makde it look like the Iraqis did it.
Afghanistan revisited - After helping them defeat the Russians, they killed three thousand innocent Americans on one day.

Seems to me the US reacts, not starts shit.

sad new !

now that's funny :thumbsup

As someone from that region I can tell you that most Israelis and Palestinians want a long lasting peace. But, Palestinians have their political representation by a terrorist group like Hammas (and before that it was Arafat) who doe not have their citizen's best interest at heart and Israeli's government keeps expanding their territory, violating multiple UN and humanitarian laws under the pretext of 'national security'. And those who suffer and are caught in the middle are the citizens of both respective countries. Whenever a moderate from anywhere has come into the picture wanting some kind of reform or even a vision of peace (Sadat, Rabin, etc), they were assassinated.

Isn't Hamas just in control of Gaza? Who controls the West Bank?

gimme a break israel is a terrorist state. only those who live there and those brainwashed by the western media think different.

I believe it's the Palestinian Nat'l Authority, who really have no authority whatsoever lol..

Fleet of Turkish frigits enroute to the Mediterranean. Apparently 3 German members of parliament were on board and are unaccounted for. Egypt re-opens it's aid route. 2-3 more aid ships within a day away and Israel says they will be MORE agressive with the next. Obama off to Turkey to mend fences for his owners.

they will always say "they were armed" even when its with a bullhorn - nothing can be verfiied except the deaths, how convenient.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/...ath/index.html

The will plant weapons on these boats to justify their actions.

They have already justified their actions...and have been doing so for the years that the blockade has been in place.

first you say britain sent minimal troops there, i point out they sent 10k, you dispute the figure and then when i confirm it you still say its minimal. up until december we had 30+% of the troops that you did there, coupled with attack aircraft etc.

considering you have a population of 5x that of the UK and armed forces 7-8 times the size, that's a significant not minimal input, especially considering where they're fighting in helmand province.

that is bad

It was just this moment reported that Western reporters have inspected the cargo of the six ships and stated that it indeed was humanitarian aid on the ships. No weapons of war.

That is right Maya. "They" are capable of any evil action while the poor oppressed Muslims are always the victim. "They" control and manipulate everything that happens in the world for their own nefarious aims while the rest of humanity plods along helpless and confused. "They" are diabolically clever and unfathomably evil while everyone else are basically decent hard working people who have been duped by "them". All the evil in the world is perpetrated by one group of Jews (sorry Zionists) while the rest of the world's people are just innocent victims. From the Romans to the Huns to Genghis Khan to the Teutonic Knights to Vlad the Impaler to Ivan the Terrible to Napoleon to Hitler to Stalin to Mao to Pol Pot........... all just a result of the evil schemes of the nefarious Jews (I mean Zionists).

Remember the rule of the debate people....... all acts that appear to be acts of aggression by Muslims against Israel or anyone else are actually Israeli "false flag" operations. All evidence which can be used to demonize or delegitimize Israel or the Jews is accepted unquestionably. Any evidence which might provide a defense for the actions of Israel or the Jews is immediately dismissed as propaganda.

..... and of course the most important rule is that no one had better dare accuse people who think this way of hating Jews...... they are just fair minded human right activists who are doing everything they can to oppose the evil and nefarious schemes of the Jew menace as accurately portrayed in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion........ just like those poor misunderstood Germans.

do you have a link?

Excellent critique...of mayabong's political/world view...I give you an A+.

Hahahahahaha haven't heard something so funny in a long time. Great criticism of Mayabong, the nutcase.

and i was refering to britain alone, 10k troops, 60m population. not minimal. anyway lets not waste any more time on this.

Turkish PM: Israeli Raid A 'Bloody Massacre'
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_595803.html


Turkish warships heading toward the eastern Mediterranean
http://translate.google.com/translat...39&sl=el&tl=en

Fate of the Turkish fleet will sail to the eastern Mediterranean
http://translate.google.com/translat...39&sl=el&tl=en

Kurds have attacked Turkeys navy base and they kill 6 turkish soldiers.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...WJqKQD9G1SSJ80

Israel Reportedly Training Kurdish Forces - Defense/Middle East ...
Feb 5, 2010 ... Recent reports indicate that Israeli agents are working in Iraqi Kurdistan to train Kurdish commandos in guerrilla war and ...
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/news.aspx/135877


Next time we'll use more force'
http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?id=177134

Egypt lifts its side of Gaza blockade for aid
http://www.examiner.com/a-2657271~Eg...for_ aid.html


Activists send more boats to challenge Gaza blockade
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.p...ade-2010-06-01

Lets ALL Sail to Gaza!

'Rachel Corrie' solidarity ship resumes sailing after 48 hours delay

http://www.paltelegraph.com/palestin...48-hours-delay

Barack Obama request talks with Turkey Prime Minister Erdoğan
http://www.nationalturk.com/en/barac...gan-4565422456

German news is apparently reporting the missing members.

If iran would have done something like this, you guys and the western media would be calling for World War 3.

I've posted many KNOWN incidents of israel attacking america and britain using false flag terror, and I'm the crazy anti-semite who has the nerve to accuse israel of doing it again. haha.

As far as the nazi thing. long before germany began restricting right of jews this happened.

http://us.altermedia.info/images/judea_declares_war.jpg

I don't consider Zionists Jews at all, they are eastern europeans who converted to Judism in 700 AD from the Khazzar Empire. You honestly gonna tell me that Netanyahoo and Sharon are of middle eastern decent? give me a break.

Israel has done a good job brainwashing.

Obviously Muslims aren't really muslims... they only started in 610 AD, and the vast majority didn't start until well after 700 AD.... so they really aren't Muslims.

(Pssst! NEVER look at the 800,000+ Jews living all over the middle east that were driven from their homes after thousands of years in 1948-49 and fled to Israel. Don't EVER look at that!)


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Hahahaha more facts to confuse mayabong. Oh wait I mean, you've been brainwashed by Israel and the Jewish Media!

Are you denying a whole eastern european nation converted to judism?

oh the cheerleader yay!

thanks, now i know why i was having difficulty finding anything

You jews cannot debate the false flag terrorism israel has used, its only countered with more poor jew stories.. I love it.

I also love how the world is waking up to the lie.