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smutnut 06-03-2010 12:11 PM

Do people deny the holocaust because they don't think people are capable of that stuff or just because they are Nazi sympathizers? I mean we have evidence of atrocisities like that on a sub level scale in Africa, correct?

I say sub level cause half the atrocities are committed by supporters of illegit governments.

The Demon 06-03-2010 01:06 PM

Nope, it's mayabong's insecurities and sad attempts at individuality.

mayabong 06-03-2010 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17206283)
So the 1000's and 1000's and 1000's of personal stories, journals, pictures, documentaries, and so on are... all fake? What about before this was in the History books, was it lies then too?

You know, I 'might' reach out say, it might not been as many people or maybe it wasn't just Germans doing it at that level... but to say it didn't happen is complete and utter stupidity.

Have you ever watched a documentary showing otherwise? Witness claimed gassings at camps that even the "official story" doesn't claim had gas chambers. I suggest watching a David Cole documentary at least and making up your own mind. Yes he's a JEW!



Most of what we know about the "holocaust" was soviet war propaganda plain and simple. To question it lands you in jail in some EU Countries (what is there to hide?). Soon people in the US will get the same treatment for questioning the events of 9/11.

UFGators2007 06-03-2010 01:33 PM

How did we go from talking about the murder of humanitarians/deckhands to the Holocaust? We should not perpetuate one atrocity with another atrocity. tensions ran hight; the Israelis took a very aggressive stance in this embargo situation and it backfired.

theking 06-03-2010 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17206670)
Have you ever watched a documentary showing otherwise? Witness claimed gassings at camps that even the "official story" doesn't claim had gas chambers. I suggest watching a David Cole documentary at least and making up your own mind. Yes he's a JEW!



Most of what we know about the "holocaust" was soviet war propaganda plain and simple. To question it lands you in jail in some EU Countries (what is there to hide?). Soon people in the US will get the same treatment for questioning the events of 9/11.

Have you ever heard of the Nuremberg Trials? The Germans were good keepers of records.

Deej 06-03-2010 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17205662)
Make no mistake about it, the Holocaust was the greatest crime of humanity of all time. Slavery comes in a close second for me. But not only the Jews suffered during WWII; The Russian population took the brunt of it. My grandmother's entire family - mother, father, sisters, brothers, were killed by the Nazis and she was the only one who lived... And she wasn't Jewish, but only Polish.

The Holocaust happened sixty years ago, at the hands of Nazi Germany. While it's a part of world history, it's over, and clearly Nazi Germany is no longer a threat to the Jewish race or Israel. It's time to move on already.

Whoa whoa whoa....

Are you really saying the holocaust overcomes the much longer oppression of slavery?

Why? Jews were held up in camps, beaten, humiliated and even mass murdered?

Yea ok... Blacks have had that and much more for much longer.

Neither is good. but dont be brown nosing any jews around here by saying the slavery issue is below the holocaust of jews...

Deej 06-03-2010 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17206255)
There is NO PROOF that nazi's gassed jews! Just cause its been repeated in history books and people attack you left and right for saying it didn't happen doesn't mean you must believe it. Just about everything in history books is wrong. Sure people died in camps, of typhus and other things but it wasn't from gassings and it wasn't just jews. Of course isreal needs this lie to keep going to have any justification whatsoever.

So youre saying the Nazi's didnt gas anyone? Or are you just saying they didnt JUST gas jews?

They most certainly DID use gas tactics.

Get ahold of the grandfathers of Bayer. They were the #1 producer of Zyclon B back in the day.

mayabong 06-03-2010 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Deej (Post 17206768)
So youre saying the Nazi's didnt gas anyone? Or are you just saying they didnt JUST gas jews?

They most certainly DID use gas tactics.

Get ahold of the grandfathers of Bayer. They were the #1 producer of Zyclon B back in the day.

The Zyclon B was used to delouse clothes and matresses. If you look in the Delousing chambers it leaves blue stains on the walls. In the "Gas chambers" no blue stains, seems like 24/7 gassing of jews would leave some trace of Zyclon B. Also in some there are doors that open inward, and flimsy ass windows.

Did you know they deloused things there?

Fletch XXX 06-03-2010 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17206283)
I 'might' reach out say, it might not been as many people

Scholars all around the world have reported the numbers are clearly lower than reported. Which is why the plaques at Auschwitz have been reduced. Originally claimed 4 million died in Auschwitz alone but that was proven to not be the case, and the number was reduced from 4 mil to 1.5 mil. Still many many people and horrible crime.

I am no holocaust denier by any means, have French people in my family were killed by nazis, and my wifes grandmother saw her friends and family killed by nazis and had to wave white flag to cross street for milk as child. But yes, the numbers initially reported have all been reduced.

http://marucha.files.wordpress.com/2...itz_plaque.jpg

now reads

http://brianakira.files.wordpress.co...plaque-now.gif

People like to think the holocaust only affected jews but even French people in my family were killed by nazis, its terrible part of our history and a shame its exploited for profit so much these days.

Deej 06-03-2010 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17206805)
The Zyclon B was used to delouse clothes and matresses. If you look in the Delousing chambers it leaves blue stains on the walls. In the "Gas chambers" no blue stains, seems like 24/7 gassing of jews would leave some trace of Zyclon B. Also in some there are doors that open inward, and flimsy ass windows.

Did you know they deloused things there?

You mean to tell me that the Germans, as nice as they were, never used this substance to harm a human, let alone a jew?

Youre telling me that you have witnessed or have pretty substantial evidence of all these fumigation rooms lacking a blue inlay?

Youre telling me that Its all made up by the jews to gain more sympathy than they deserve regarding the so called 'holocaust'?

Youre saying... Gas chambers = myth ?

The Demon 06-03-2010 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Deej (Post 17206742)
Whoa whoa whoa....

Are you really saying the holocaust overcomes the much longer oppression of slavery?

Why? Jews were held up in camps, beaten, humiliated and even mass murdered?

Yea ok... Blacks have had that and much more for much longer.

Neither is good. but dont be brown nosing any jews around here by saying the slavery issue is below the holocaust of jews...

Hmmm. One claimed over 6 million deaths(yes, this is the confirmed number). The other one didn't get anywhere near that number. Was slavery bad? Absolutely! But the Holocaust was the most atrocious act in human history. I'd go with the Crusades at #2.

The Demon 06-03-2010 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Deej (Post 17206888)
You mean to tell me that the Germans, as nice as they were, never used this substance to harm a human, let alone a jew?

Youre telling me that you have witnessed or have pretty substantial evidence of all these fumigation rooms lacking a blue inlay?

Youre telling me that Its all made up by the jews to gain more sympathy than they deserve regarding the so called 'holocaust'?

Youre saying... Gas chambers = myth ?

Pay no attention to him. He finds 1 or 2 videos on the entire internet that try to disprove actual facts, and he assumes those are the actual facts.

Deej 06-03-2010 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17206919)
Hmmm. One claimed over 6 million deaths(yes, this is the confirmed number). The other one didn't get anywhere near that number. Was slavery bad? Absolutely! But the Holocaust was the most atrocious act in human history. I'd go with the Crusades at #2.

That estimate is inflated by the jews :winkwink:

The Demon 06-03-2010 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Deej (Post 17206924)
That estimate is inflated by the jews :winkwink:

Hahaha indeed. In fact the Jews made up the gas chamber myth!

Deej 06-03-2010 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17206938)
Hahaha indeed. In fact the Jews made up the gas chamber myth!

Thats what I heard on the internet...

mayabong 06-03-2010 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 17206809)
Scholars all around the world have reported the numbers are clearly lower than reported. Which is why the plaques at Auschwitz have been reduced. Originally claimed 4 million died in Auschwitz alone but that was proven to not be the case, and the number was reduced from 4 mil to 1.5 mil. Still many many people and horrible crime.

I am no holocaust denier by any means, have French people in my family were killed by nazis, and my wifes grandmother saw her friends and family killed by nazis and had to wave white flag to cross street for milk as child. But yes, the numbers initially reported have all been reduced.

http://marucha.files.wordpress.com/2...itz_plaque.jpg

now reads

http://brianakira.files.wordpress.co...plaque-now.gif

People like to think the holocaust only affected jews but even French people in my family were killed by nazis, its terrible part of our history and a shame its exploited for profit so much these days.

If holocaust means "consumed by fire" I guess I'm a denier.

I'm not denying camps, or that people died, or that the nazi's weren't crazy. I'm saying that the story just doesn't add up. Zionists took the story and ran with it and squash anyone who questions it with prison. Witnesses make up shit. People were making up shit when they came out the Superdome, Fisherman Tell fish stories. Thats how people are.

Fletch XXX 06-03-2010 02:02 PM

I understand.

Many, many people have had their stories proven to be lies, and numbers have definitely been inflated, no denying any of that stuff. People have been exlpoiting holocaust since it happened. $$$$$$

Quote:

A US publisher has cancelled publication of a Holocaust memoir after its author revealed that he had made up crucial parts of it.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7802608.stm

mayabong 06-03-2010 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deej (Post 17206888)
Youre telling me that Its all made up by the jews to gain more sympathy than they deserve regarding the so called 'holocaust'?

NO way why would they do that?

Deej 06-03-2010 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17206971)
NO way why would they do that?

A bit much dont you think?

Sure I agree jews definitely push buttons to their likings...

But Im going to go ahead and believe the gas chamber claims :thumbsup

mayabong 06-03-2010 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 17205512)
which brings up a great point, should we allow people to serve this high up in our nations government when they clearly have ties to other nations and even citizenship even ties to militant groups in other foreign lands??

his parents were also militant zionists. it raises a lot of questions of his loyalty to this country above others.

Rahm comes from famly of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irgun which even State of israel labeled terrorist.

I don't even know where to start with that mess.

I have a problem with anyone who puts the well being of israel before america when they are making decisions. Its not only jews either its almost every member of congress bribed by AIPAC. Scary.


theking 06-03-2010 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17207082)
I don't even know where to start with that mess.

I have a problem with anyone who puts the well being of israel before america when they are making decisions. Its not only jews either its almost every member of congress bribed by AIPAC. Scary.


The conclusions made in the video are pure pigshit.

xNetworx 06-03-2010 03:49 PM

Mayabong is a redneck fucktard who apparently thinks internet conspiracy videos are more legit than history books written by people with literally double his IQ. Fuck off already!

mayabong 06-03-2010 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Deej (Post 17207076)
A bit much dont you think?

Sure I agree jews definitely push buttons to their likings...

But Im going to go ahead and believe the gas chamber claims :thumbsup

Why? have you researched? or just blindly believe cause thats what you're told?

theking 06-03-2010 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17207623)
Why? have you researched? or just blindly believe cause thats what you're told?

I already asked you if you ever heard of the Nuremburg Trials? The Germans were good keepers of records. The records kept by the Germans prove their "Final Solution". As for numbers...these are basically educated guesses...based upon records and testimony.

mayabong 06-03-2010 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by pimpporn (Post 17207617)
Mayabong is a redneck fucktard who apparently thinks internet conspiracy videos are more legit than history books written by people with literally double his IQ. Fuck off already!

So obviously you think its ok to attack and jail people for investigating a historical event? who is the nazi redneck fucktard? me or you?

theking 06-03-2010 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17207784)
So obviously you think its ok to attack and jail people for investigating a historical event? who is the nazi redneck fucktard? me or you?

You keep saying this...so please make a list of all of the Americans that have been jailed for merely investigating a historical event. Also...please make a list of all of the foreigners that have been jailed for merely investigating a historical event.

With appropriate proof of their arrest...conviction and sentence to jail...of course.

mayabong 06-03-2010 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 17207848)
A bit of a stretch..guilt by association?

Maybe, I don't know.

Its very obvious that congress is bought by AIPAC.

This is from the other day.


mayabong 06-03-2010 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 17207847)
You keep saying this...so please make a list of all of the Americans that have been jailed for merely investigating a historical event. Also...please make a list of all of the foreigners that have been jailed for merely investigating a historical event.

With appropriate proof of their arrest...conviction and sentence to jail...of course.

Zundel and David Irving are 2 that come to mind. In many countries in the EU you cannot speak of this. In the US you just get called names, but they are trying to pass the same "Hate Crime" legislation here.

On February 5, 2003, Ernst Zündel was detained by U.S. local police and deported to Canada, where he was detained for two years on a Security Certificate for being a foreign national alleged to be a threat to national security pending a court decision on the validity of the certificate. Once the certificate was upheld and Zündel was determined to be a national security risk he was deported to Germany and tried in the state court of Mannheim on outstanding charges of incitement for Holocaust denial dating from the early 1990s. On February 15, 2007, he was convicted and sentenced to the maximum term of five years in prison.[8] He was released on March 1, 2010[9].

David John Cawdell Irving (born 24 March 1938) is an English writer specializing in the military history of World War II.[1] He is the author of 30 books on the subject, including The Destruction of Dresden (1963), Hitler's War (1977), Uprising! (1981), Churchill's War (1987), and Goebbels: Mastermind of the Third Reich (1996).
Irving was arrested during a visit to Austria and convicted of "glorifying and identifying with the German Nazi Party", a crime in that country under the Verbotsgesetz law. He served a prison sentence there from February to December 2006.

theking 06-03-2010 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17207866)
Maybe, I don't know.

Its very obvious that congress is bought by AIPAC.

This is from the other day.


The only thing in that video that is obvious is that one man is offering his opinion...end of story.

theking 06-03-2010 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17207921)
Zundel and David Irving are 2 that come to mind. In many countries in the EU you cannot speak of this. In the US you just get called names, but they are trying to pass the same "Hate Crime" legislation here.

On February 5, 2003, Ernst Zündel was detained by U.S. local police and deported to Canada, where he was detained for two years on a Security Certificate for being a foreign national alleged to be a threat to national security pending a court decision on the validity of the certificate. Once the certificate was upheld and Zündel was determined to be a national security risk he was deported to Germany and tried in the state court of Mannheim on outstanding charges of incitement for Holocaust denial dating from the early 1990s. On February 15, 2007, he was convicted and sentenced to the maximum term of five years in prison.[8] He was released on March 1, 2010[9].

David John Cawdell Irving (born 24 March 1938) is an English writer specializing in the military history of World War II.[1] He is the author of 30 books on the subject, including The Destruction of Dresden (1963), Hitler's War (1977), Uprising! (1981), Churchill's War (1987), and Goebbels: Mastermind of the Third Reich (1996).
Irving was arrested during a visit to Austria and convicted of "glorifying and identifying with the German Nazi Party", a crime in that country under the Verbotsgesetz law. He served a prison sentence there from February to December 2006.

Hmm...two people that were tried and convicted...not for merely investigating a historical event as you stated...but for violating the laws of...Germany in the one instance...and Austria in the other. I think that it is not unusal to go to jail for violating the laws of any country...now isn't that true.

mayabong 06-03-2010 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 17208006)
Hmm...two people that were tried and convicted...not for merely investigating a historical event as you stated...but for violating the laws of...Germany in the one instance...and Austria in the other. I think that it is not unusal to go to jail for violating the laws of any country...now isn't that true.

If you think "inciting holocaust denial" is a just law then I can't argue with you there. :)

theking 06-03-2010 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17208097)
If you think "inciting holocaust denial" is a just law then I can't argue with you there. :)

I am not 100% certain...but I think in the U.S. state and federal law...there are more than one type of "inciting" law on the books.

MaDalton 06-03-2010 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17206255)
There is NO PROOF that nazi's gassed jews! Just cause its been repeated in history books and people attack you left and right for saying it didn't happen doesn't mean you must believe it. Just about everything in history books is wrong. Sure people died in camps, of typhus and other things but it wasn't from gassings and it wasn't just jews. Of course isreal needs this lie to keep going to have any justification whatsoever.

i am surely no friend of Isreal politics but the bullshit you are spewing is unbelievable. you are so incredible stupid that i want to scream at my monitor

here's a deal: let's go to Auschwitz and have a look. in person. with your and my own eyes. and then we'll see what's true or not.

it's only 250 km from here

and btw - there's ton of proof - you are just ignoring it cause it doesn't suit your agenda.

MaDalton 06-03-2010 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17207784)
So obviously you think its ok to attack and jail people for investigating a historical event? who is the nazi redneck fucktard? me or you?

"investigating a historical event" :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

and then naming 2 of the biggest neo nazis and holocaust deniers

holy fuck, i must avoid these threads cause your posts make me want to forget my good manners

you need to be locked away - period. please, do me the favour and spend your next holiday in Germany

mayabong 06-03-2010 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 17208150)
i am surely no friend of Isreal politics but the bullshit you are spewing is unbelievable. you are so incredible stupid that i want to scream at my monitor

here's a deal: let's go to Auschwitz and have a look. in person. with your and my own eyes. and then we'll see what's true or not.

it's only 250 km from here

and btw - there's ton of proof - you are just ignoring it cause it doesn't suit your agenda.

I've been there, I saw blue stains on the delousing walls, and none on the gas chambers. I wanted to know why and started my research. You're the dumb one for believing their crap.

mayabong 06-03-2010 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 17208182)
"investigating a historical event" :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

and then naming 2 of the biggest neo nazis and holocaust deniers

holy fuck, i must avoid these threads cause your posts make me want to forget my good manners

you need to be locked away - period. please, do me the favour and spend your next holiday in Germany

Yeah of course thats what they're labeled ... good job captain obvious. Again who is the nazi haha

Fletch XXX 06-03-2010 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 17208182)

you need to be locked away - period.

you cannot possibly support nazi tactics of locking up people you disagree with, do you?

his whole argument is about putting people in jail for denying the holocaus and then you retort with the above? disagree with him all you want but putting people in jail for denying the holocaust is not the answer.

wow

Fletch XXX 06-03-2010 05:38 PM

The concept if imprisoning holocaust deniers is more nazi than anything I can think of.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_denial

Insane. Even to disagree with versions of the holocaust can land you inprison, sounds nazi to me. And yes it happens and has been done, and is a crime in places.

_Richard_ 06-03-2010 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 17208381)
you cannot possibly support nazi tactics of locking up people you disagree with, do you?

his whole argument is about putting people in jail for denying the holocaus and then you retort with the above? disagree with him all you want but putting people in jail for denying the holocaust is not the answer.

wow

:2 cents:

funny how thought crime would come out of the fall of nazi germany

The Demon 06-03-2010 05:44 PM

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you cannot possibly support nazi tactics of locking up people you disagree with, do you?
How is this a "nazi tactic"? Do you read your bullshit before you hit the "post reply" button? And nobody here takes Mayabong or his lunacy seriously.


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