wow, this discussion is getting interesting :)

There is only one side to the story, and if you don't accept it, you're a racist anti-semite.

That is the way the world works now unfortunately. Disagreeing with Israeli policy means you immediately are labelled as a jew-hater. :Oh crap

Yes, the knew from the British, and confirmed by the US , that the famous WMD were aboard ...

2 words for Israel - Fuck You!

If one day III World War begins it will be fault of Israel.

It is on the front page of CNN U.S. Edition btw.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/...ex.html?hpt=T1

it's common knowledge.

http://google.con lazy fuck.

99% of you don't have "common knowledge" or any kind of knowledge for that matter. Now if you're going to make a post with the word "FACT" in it 10+ times, you're obligated to prove it. Of course, I can adopt the hilarious mentally retarded logic of the majority of you and just say "blah blah blah prove me wrong!!"

yep, I posted just before seeing him in here ... last post in here .... no point .. let the name calling begin...
( liberals, idiot, moron, socialist, anti-semite )

fell free to add . Bye.

Sort of like if you don't support Obama you're a racist, and if you don't support same sex marriages you're a bigot? Then again, your premise made absolutely no sense since nobody has even remotely come close to stating something like that. Carry on:)

wow.... that pretty much just leaves you to save us from ourselves doesn't it?

No need DirectFiesta, you're too easy to insult, which is why you're not taken seriously on this forum(just like MaDalton), and when you DO engage people in intellectual threads, you're ignored.:)

look it up you lazy fuck. unlike you i actually have work to do today. i don't get a day off from school.

Israel is nothing more than well funded terrorists... and hopefully Obama starts treating them as such, and maybe if we're lucky one day the Country will be named it's proper name again one day: Palestine

Those DIRTY JEWS! They always act all nerdy and like they can't fight and the second you stop keeping an eye on them they pull out an UZI & fuck someone up :1orglaugh

You were too stupid to attend school.

LOL. Yet another priceless and completely unrealistic post by TheDoc.

Because they slip in weapons which are used to launch bombs on Israel. Pay attention. It's been going on for years.

terrible terrible

Dude, you're wasting your time. These morons don't have common sense, nor do they watch the news. They get everything backwards and it's so easy to insult them. For instance:

What do you say to that? Do you direct him to a psychologist? Do you pat him on the shoulder and tell him you sympathize with his mental deficiency?

Oh look, The Demon coming in killing a thread with his spewing bullshit of name calling...

Do you actually have any arguments to debate or will you always resort to childish argument tactics?

100 Israelians

What Bertrand Russell 20th century mathematician and Albert Einstein friend wrote in the 70's, still true today :2 cents:


"Israel has expanded by force of arms. After every stage in this expansion Israel has appealed to "reason" and has suggested "negotiations". This is the traditional role of the imperial power, because it wishes to consolidate with the least difficulty what it has already taken by violence. The aggression committed by Israel must be condemned because every expansion is an experiment to discover how much more aggression the world will tolerate.

The tragedy of the people of Palestine is that their country was "given" by a foreign Power to another people for the creation of a new State. How much longer is the world willing to endure this spectacle of wanton cruelty? It is abundantly clear that the refugees have every right to the homeland from which they were driven, and the denial of this right is at the heart of the CONTINUING conflict.

We are frequently told, "We must sympathize with Israel because of the suffering of the Jews in Europe at the hands of the Nazis." What Israel is doing today cannot be condoned, and to invoke the horrors of the past to justify those of the present is gross hypocrisy."

Because of the fact that Israel gets bombed on a regular basis, they've set up a blockade around certain areas. The ships knew of the blockade, and had the intention of running the blockade thinking Israel would stand down. But at the end of the day, when your intentionally violating the laws or rules of another country by plowing through a fucking blockade and helicopters are landing military comandos on your ship, well, it's time to back down - not attack them with clubs, knives, and maybe even handguns.

If this was a fucking humanitian mission, why did they have handguns?

At this point it doesn't matter who was right or wrong. When the military of any country boards a ship, right or wrong, lawful or not, you stand the fuck down. Because the military of any country is going to have a lot more firepower than any civilian ship.

As for the blockade, you can debate the legality of that until your blue in the face. The United States did it to Cuba and demanded to inspect Russian ships. (Okay, we didn't call it a blockade we called it a quarantine - same difference.)

I'm not saying that Israel is right here. I could care less about Israel, and if they were no longer a country in the morning I'm sleeping fine. But when a civilian fleet intentionally runs a military blockade, well, there's gonna be bloodshed. Period.

The reason Israel gets away with so much shit is because the alternative to supporting Israel is not even plausible. Some day open up the Qur'an and have a look see.

qft.....

If Israel wasn't getting away with that shit fewer people would be opening the Qur'an :2 cents:

MaDalton is cool. Why do you attack him?

Yeah, I guess that would be good if you're Islam! :1orglaugh That no one opens it and has a look at what is written in it LOL

The Germans called this "Lebensraum" or "living space". Seems Israel is doing the same thing, but much slower.


At some point in time we need to understand that not every race or nationality needs to have it's own country.

Take the Middle East out of it, and replace it with - say - Europe. The Basque. They are a unique culture and consider themselves a nationality, based mostly in France and Spain. They two have been involved in terrorist acts, mostly bombings, and mostly to try to gain attention to their cause. However, does this give them the right to have their own country? Should France and Spain suddenly take one third or one fourth of their country, and turn it over to the Basque so they can create their own country? What about the French and Spanish citizens who live in these areas? Should they be removed from their homes? By force? Who will compensate them?

And thus is the problem. Not every race or nationality will have it's own land, it's own country, and it's right to self determination.

You're not suggesting that Israel didn't deserve to become Israel, are you?

US and Israel have deep historic ties together.
Israel will fight no matter what.
US will support Israel no matter what.
Arabs will fight no matter what.
World has a bright future ahead.:helpme

What you are describing is ironically exactly what happened in Palestine.

Half the country was turned over to the minority Jewish community against the will of the population.

Actually your so far off it isn't even funny. Britain promised Israel and tried to pull out and we backed Israel up and fuck Britain at the time considering our history with them then. In WW I we held back cause we didn't give a fuck about Europe or Britain.

I will say - Israel created terrorism - that is a fact when they were having problems with Britain after Britain reneged!

I said half of what use to be Palestine was turned over to the Jewish community.

I didn't elaborate, go into British rule etc... so how exactly was what I said wrong?

Yet another classic post. Keep it up guys. The ignorance is overwhelming.

Well, I guess in this one case, the lack of elaboration would explain A LOT~! :1orglaugh

palestine gets bombed on a daily basis , i don't see hamas searching israeli ships.

The difference is israel kills thousands of women and children with their bombs, and you can count on your hand how many terrorists rockets kill israeli's every year
the ships knew blocking humanitarian aid was illegal and the actions israel took were illegal, so they were doing everything legal by INTERNATIONAL law.
the blockade is illegal. if you intentionally stop an unarmed civilian aid convoy and slaughter it's occupants , you can expect to catch flak .

the video shows no handguns, it shows a guy with a pole doing something , an idf guy falling , people running everywhere thats about all i saw. Didn't see any injured idf , saw lots of dead and injured civilians, no weapons other than idf weapons. Haven't heard of any idf being shot .

If the police stopped a city bus to search for weapons and 1 guy had a handgun does that give the right for the police to open fire on the bus occupants who may have no affiliation or knowledge of the 1 guy with a gun ?




your right , regardless the answer isn't to slaughter innocent unarmed civilians delivering medical supplies.
international law says it's illegal, there isn't much to debate.
we also used to have slaves and burned women who could swim, should we start doing that again too ?


we do agree on one thing, it wasn't a very smart idea, desperate people are forced into desperate measures.

curious to know who was shot.. this is pretty crazy

well the palestinians did have their own country, and it was given away.

Look, if you want to get technical AMERICA created terrorism when we wouldn't stand in lines and fight the British but chose to hide behind trees and create guerillla warfare and no one, and I MEAN NO ONE has tried emulate us more than the ARABS when going against their enemies...

But don't think for one second the JEWS are trying to be these subsimissive cooperative individuals you're trying to make them out to be, and I'll be they are being told not to be also! :thumbsup