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Old 10-06-2006, 01:01 AM   #1
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Fitness Gurus - Help me pick an ab machine

Hmm, I got this flabby stomach and I've lost about 14lbs last month and still going strong this month (You can see some pics of my flabbiness at http://www.awmhealth.com/category/fallenmuffin/ ). Anywho I need to get the stomach under control now that I'm doing cycling and other things to manage my weight.

So what do you suggest? I searched a couple websites and found these products...

Yukon Fitness - Back & Ab Exercise Machine (Slant Board)
http://www.sitincomfort.com/prbaabma.html

John Abdo's Ab-Doer Xtreme
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=5127447

Ironman Double Ab Wheel
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=5148238

6-Second Abs
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=2618830

Cross Crunch Abdominal Exerciser
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=4183609

Clark Bartram's 3D Abs
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=5127446

ProForm CoreMaster
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=4168627

Stamina Ab/Hyper Bench
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=4664282

Any advice would be great...

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Old 10-06-2006, 01:58 AM   #2
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Bump... someone help a fatty out lol
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Old 10-06-2006, 02:01 AM   #3
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Those machines are all crap.
Get an adjustable ab-bench.
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Old 10-06-2006, 02:04 AM   #4
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Those machines are all crap.
Get an adjustable ab-bench.
Yeah, those are like 400$ lol... I'm not that into fitness atm. $150 max...


The first one i posted is a bench like thing
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Best ab machine I have used, and I have tried most of em, costs no more than $20:

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Old 10-06-2006, 07:50 AM   #7
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Forget the machines. Do some crunches and keep doing the cardio. The main problem is the fat around your abs anyway. The crunches are sufficient for building some muscle.
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Best ab machine I have used, and I have tried most of em, costs no more than $20:

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Retards.

Spot weight loss is a myth. Doing a thousand crunches won't spot reduce fat around your midsection.

Nothing but cardio and a calorie defecit diet will reduce fat around your abdominals.
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engorgecash: very true. But a strong core (abs) will increase the number of calories you burn just by sitting around thus potentially create a small defecit.
Combine that with a diet of maintanance - 10-20% and the weight will drop like a mofo

fallenmuffin: read my post about the exercise balls man. I've got a shitload more exercises for you on the ball if you want them and they're guaranteed to make you feel the burn.
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engorgecash: very true. But a strong core (abs) will increase the number of calories you burn just by sitting around thus potentially create a small defecit.
Combine that with a diet of maintanance - 10-20% and the weight will drop like a mofo

fallenmuffin: read my post about the exercise balls man. I've got a shitload more exercises for you on the ball if you want them and they're guaranteed to make you feel the burn.
http://www.johnstonefitness.com/php/pictures.php

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Only site you'll ever need.
yeah very good site. I've had it bookmarked for a while now
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Bump... someone help a fatty out lol
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fallenmuffin: read my post about the exercise balls man. I've got a shitload more exercises for you on the ball if you want them and they're guaranteed to make you feel the burn.
Yeah, I read it.. but uh, those balls are deadly. Nothing makes you feel bad like falling off a big pink plastic ball and busting your ass lol. So i was hoping I could get around it. I've been doing ALOT of cardio.. bike/walking/mowing/ect anything I can do. Diet is going well I've just replaced alot of items and eat alot less lol.

I was hoping one of those benches would be recommended or maybe one of those scam plastic 'super ab' machines might work lol guess not. I've been doing crunches the last couple days but I really don't think thats working out.
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the only thing that's worth buying for home use (in my opinion) is an "ab roller" or whatever it's called in the US. Most gyms also have them.
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Yeah, I read it.. but uh, those balls are deadly. Nothing makes you feel bad like falling off a big pink plastic ball and busting your ass lol. So i was hoping I could get around it. I've been doing ALOT of cardio.. bike/walking/mowing/ect anything I can do. Diet is going well I've just replaced alot of items and eat alot less lol.

I was hoping one of those benches would be recommended or maybe one of those scam plastic 'super ab' machines might work lol guess not. I've been doing crunches the last couple days but I really don't think thats working out.
bike/walking/mowing/ect is not cardio.

This is cardio:

http://www.rosstraining.com/videos/workcapacity101.wmv
http://www.rosstraining.com/videos/hardcore.wmv
http://www.rosstraining.com/videos/jumprope.wmv
http://www.rosstraining.com/videos/bandsprints.wmv

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bike/walking/mowing/ect is not cardio.
... Just about anything is acceptable as long as it involves a movement that gets your heart rate into your Target Heart Rate Zone ....
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God damn it fallenmuffin, eat another donut. Screw fitness! Lord Archiot will reward you in the afterlife with a new shiny robotic body so fuck this one.
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Old 10-06-2006, 08:32 AM   #21
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Don't need an ad machine. Watch what you eat and run alot. Do basic ad exercises.
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do some heel toe shuffle and some stomache crunches then it doesn't cost anything for some silly gimmick
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... Just about anything is acceptable as long as it involves a movement that gets your heart rate into your Target Heart Rate Zone ....
"Target Heart Rate Zone" consumer excercisers shlingo. :wankwankwank:

lookup Tabata Intervals on google.
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swiss ball, medicine ball... nothing more then this is needed. Want to increase core stability? Just swap your office chair for the swiss ball.

No machines on that list actually do anything...
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Yeah, I read it.. but uh, those balls are deadly. Nothing makes you feel bad like falling off a big pink plastic ball and busting your ass lol. So i was hoping I could get around it. I've been doing ALOT of cardio.. bike/walking/mowing/ect anything I can do. Diet is going well I've just replaced alot of items and eat alot less lol.

I was hoping one of those benches would be recommended or maybe one of those scam plastic 'super ab' machines might work lol guess not. I've been doing crunches the last couple days but I really don't think thats working out.
lol yeah falling off one does fucking suck but it's pretty hard to do imho. I've been drenched in sweat and not fallen off one. The only time I fell off was when I was goofing off and not paying attention.

what's funny is that I'm actually eating about 3 times as much as I was and I'm losing weight. It's not about eating less to lose weight it's about what you eat and how often.
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I just got a ball for sitting on and its good for doing sit-ups etc on so I would say just get one of them

but when you exercise your abs it doesn't make fat come off your stomach you know that right you need to lose the fat then people can see your muscle tone / abs whatever
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As stated earlier, doing ab exercises will not reduce the size of your stomach. In fact it will probably make you look more bloated because it'll increase the size of your abs, which are in turn covered by fat.

Sure, building muscle raises the amount of calories you burn by sitting around. But I think you're wasting your time if that is your plan. There are way better exercises to do if you want to build a bunch of muscle to help you lose the fat. For example, compond lifts like squats and deadlifts are great for building muscle.

If your main goal is to just get fit and toned then I would continue with the cardio you are doing and also add weight lifting. For the $150 you want to spend you should be able to by a few dumbbells so you can lift at home. Do cardio a few times a week and weight lifting some other days. Do big compound lifts to build the most muscle.

An ab machine will not help you one bit. If you buy some dumbbells you can simply hold a dumbbell to your chest and use that for a weighted crunch which will give you an extra burn.

Just remember that diet is like 80% of weight loss. Cut out the junk foot, and eat small meals 6 times per day to rev up your metabolism. Taper the carbs from more in the morning to less at night. And don't eat 3 hours before bed. Drink 1-2 gallons of water per day.
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As stated earlier, doing ab exercises will not reduce the size of your stomach. In fact it will probably make you look more bloated because it'll increase the size of your abs, which are in turn covered by fat.

Sure, building muscle raises the amount of calories you burn by sitting around. But I think you're wasting your time if that is your plan. There are way better exercises to do if you want to build a bunch of muscle to help you lose the fat. For example, compond lifts like squats and deadlifts are great for building muscle.

If your main goal is to just get fit and toned then I would continue with the cardio you are doing and also add weight lifting. For the $150 you want to spend you should be able to by a few dumbbells so you can lift at home. Do cardio a few times a week and weight lifting some other days. Do big compound lifts to build the most muscle.

An ab machine will not help you one bit. If you buy some dumbbells you can simply hold a dumbbell to your chest and use that for a weighted crunch which will give you an extra burn.

Just remember that diet is like 80% of weight loss. Cut out the junk foot, and eat small meals 6 times per day to rev up your metabolism. Taper the carbs from more in the morning to less at night. And don't eat 3 hours before bed. Drink 1-2 gallons of water per day.
Great post! In tune with what I've been training. My resting metabolic rate has went up perhaps 20% ever since I started lifting and strenghening up. Added 10lbs of lean mass.
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Oh and just a bit more about spot reducing fat. Every person puts fat on at different parts of their body first. It depends on your genes. Eveyone loses weight on different parts first as well. Unforetunately for most people they gain weight on their stomach first, and then lose it last. Which makes it difficult to get that nice stomach because you must first get rid of all the other fat around your body before your stomach will shrink. Obviously this is put simply, but you get the idea.
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Oh and just a bit more about spot reducing fat. Every person puts fat on at different parts of their body first. It depends on your genes. Eveyone loses weight on different parts first as well. Unforetunately for most people they gain weight on their stomach first, and then lose it last. Which makes it difficult to get that nice stomach because you must first get rid of all the other fat around your body before your stomach will shrink. Obviously this is put simply, but you get the idea.
yeah exactly. and it sucks LOL my arms and legs are getting bigger/leaner but the keg is sticking around lol
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Oh and just a bit more about spot reducing fat. Every person puts fat on at different parts of their body first. It depends on your genes. Eveyone loses weight on different parts first as well. Unforetunately for most people they gain weight on their stomach first, and then lose it last. Which makes it difficult to get that nice stomach because you must first get rid of all the other fat around your body before your stomach will shrink. Obviously this is put simply, but you get the idea.

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paterson3713: You made some really good points. I have been eating less (smaller portions) and usually 3-4 tiny meals a day. I also have two 15lbs dumbbells that I do some stuff with. And of course the exericese bike that i use a lot. So looks like i'm on the right path but I guess I should loose another 20lbs before bothering with ab muscles.

SPeRMiNaToR: Alright, lol.... Next time I'm at the store i'll pick up one of those damn balls. Arg.. I hate those things lol.
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I *think* I paid less than $80 bucks for this adjustable bench I have here.
It's not gym standard, but it's pretty damn good. Check eBay.
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WTF> do some situps, stop buying fucking Mountain Dew you dumbass, oh just here and there. Fuck that dont buy it ever you stupid shit.
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the only thing that's worth buying for home use (in my opinion) is an "ab roller" or whatever it's called in the US. Most gyms also have them.
That's what I use. It basically just faciltates crunches so I don't use my back/neck incorrectly.
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Fuck crunches and silly contraptions...get a chin up bar and learn to do hanging leg raises...you'll have a solid core and ripped abs faster than you can imagine.
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WTF> do some situps, stop buying fucking Mountain Dew you dumbass, oh just here and there. Fuck that dont buy it ever you stupid shit.
I've been drinking mountain dew for 20 years lol it's like crack you gotta be winged off it and I go through withdraw and relaps sometimes. But I shall take your kind words and advice.
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You want a cardio workout.... SEX and lots of it,
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Best ab machine I have used, and I have tried most of em, costs no more than $20:

yep, those work really good
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Old 10-06-2006, 03:02 PM   #48
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Why not cut through all the BS machines and tricks and just join a gym or start kickboxing or just start doing some cardio heavy sport? Chances are you'll grow to like it and loose weight at the same time.

Using machines and going on Diets is fine for a short term solution, but you will eventually get fed up, stop and gain your weight back.

Adopt a healthy lifestyle and loosing weight will be a breeze
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Old 10-06-2006, 06:13 PM   #49
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ok that did crack me up
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