MaDalton

i'm lazy - will this make me move my ass?

did you manage to achieve your goals in 60 days?

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Fuck no. lol

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i bought it to fap to it

MaDalton

can you send it over when you dont need it anymore?

even if i wanted - it's impossible to buy here

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AJHall

It's good f you like a lot of bodyweight movement stuff, lots of jumping, etc. I tried it once and hated it. Gave the DVDs to a friend who does it every day and he's lost like 20lbs already.

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People always spend money on all these new fitness trends when the reality is you can lose weight for free and even faster if you just go jogging a bit every day and don't eat like a pig.

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JesseQuinn

I do it every day, have for about a year now. I hate the Max weeks but I'm addicted. Best workout I've ever tried, hands down

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Basileus

I've tried it and highly recommend it to anybody. It's very exhausting, time consuming and you have to be very determined but results are unbelievable, after 60 days I doubled and tripled my results in physical test and I never felt as good, like I'm 15 y.o. again.
Apart from DVDs you'll need to stick to diet (there's a book with meals) and training calendar, so you need more than just DVDs. You can order everything on Amazon and use myus.com for shipping.

I've ordered Asylum as well as 20 min casual workout DVD and it'd arrive this week and I'm really looking forward to it.

TheSquealer

You already started by disqualifying yourself. "I'm lazy". Nothing is going to help you until you get motivated. Get on a treadmill or start running or hire a trainer to force you to push yourself and help you get your diet in order.

These guys don't make money by actually helping people. They make money by taking money from people they know aren't going to do it. Thats what the self help and fitness industry is. Thats why all gyms have 1-2-3 year contracts. Because the average person is only going to show up for the first few weeks, then fade away... but every person in the start is easily convinced to make a long commitment. It's like MMA and selling the idea of being "the ultimate fighter". Everyone man would want to buy that... .05% of those who bought it will actually put in the work.

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I searched for the affiliate link but couldn't find it

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MaDalton

fuck - i never heard of myus.com - that might help

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Mr Pheer

I'd suggest you start with P90X before you just jump into Insanity.

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Dirty F

I always see it on top of the most shared movies list on the piratebay.
My guess is that 90% of the people stop doing it after 1 week. It looks way too intense.

Dirty F

I can see how you lose weight with it but those crazy muscles you see in the ads?

Joshua G

i suggest trying it out with a youtube clip before throwing money at it.

georgeyw

THIS!

Have been doing p90x and lost 16 kilos so far in 3 months, about to move onto their doubles workout.

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It works...if you can do it.

Mike Dutch

Agreed, Insanity is really hard to keep up with.

If you can keep up 30 Minutes run interval training you might be ready for insanity ;-)

p90X is somewhat more human to do

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Dirty F

Eating less and more healthy and going to the gym 5 times a week is easy and works really well. A lot of people don't seem to realize this.

OverdueNudes

I've been doing insanity on and off for a year. I can never seem to commit to more than 2 weeks at a time. I am dripping sweat from head to toe at the end of the workout, and I'm not even fat. The sweat would pool up on my carpet if I let it, that's how tiring this workout is. If I were to actually make it through 60 days in a row I know the results would be amazing. I usually start feeling better after two weeks and then let it fade out.

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THIS!

woj

paying $150 to do jumping jacks for 40 mins in front of a tv is pretty lame in my opinion... (that's pretty much what insanity is)

instead like someone suggested earlier, I would get a stopwatch and some running shoes, pick a 2-3 mile path and go for a jog or (walk+jog intervals) around the neighborhood, each day run the same path and no matter what happens resolve to beat your previous day's time even if only by a second... nothing motivates better than seeing results (time going down) right away...

if anything, get p90x at least you will get some variety and will learn some workout techniques... insanity on the other hand is 15 very similar workouts (which all are pretty much 40 mins of jumping jacks)...
(I'm pretty sure they even recycle the footage between the dvds.. )

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Basileus

The first month is ok, in the first two weeks it's hard coz you're getting used to it but after that it'll be fine. The 2nd month is a killer - workouts double in time and intensity. I considered myself quite fit person until I tried Insanity and only after that I realized how weak I was.

It's has got nothing with jogging, running and as regular gym exercises, it's a completely different world. If you can motivate yourself and get through it you'll be amazed by results. P90X is another thing I'm going to try later this year, so far the feedback was good

JesseQuinn

I def agree on this as well. Insanity is high impact, and I could really see an unfit or overweight person hurting themselves trying to jump right into it. p90x is easier to modify and 'work up to', it's a much more accessible program that way

I found Insanity wicked for muscle building. I'm vegan and I tend to undereat when I'm busy so my results aren't 'ideal' for body-builder types, but I'm not going for bulked out anyways. That said, in Max there's a ton of hard core floor exercises that build upper body strength.



anyways, it's a wicked program. p90x was cool but Insanity def stepped things up. The one exception is p90x ab ripper, which I find far superior to Insanity cardio abs.

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P!nk said she does the P90x on Oprah and you know how fit she is

tanlines

I credit both P90X and Insanity with where my body is at these days and I'm honestly addicted to both. But I agree with everyone else that starting with P90X is the way to go. Insanity lives up to its name, and had I not started with P90X, I would have given up on Insanity from day 1.

I'm not sure if you already have Insanity, but I'm starting back up on 2/1 if you want a buddy!

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StariaDaniel

I didn't try insanity, but I looked into it a while ago, so that's just a general opinion ... if you're the lazy type (and I was too) this is going to be tough to keep up

I started working out again 10 months ago after 3 years of doing nothing and it's way easier if you sign up for a local gym with a buddy and the two of you can motivate each other to go regularly. Also creates a little "competition" (you don't want to lift less than your buddy, do you? ;) ). Now after 10 months of going to the gym 3-4 times a week i feel bad when I didn't go for 2-3 days - so I guess now I'd be able to push myself through something like insanity, but at the beginning I'd have done a few workouts and then put the DVD in the shelf.

If you're looking to burn a lot of fat and gain some muscle you could also check if there's a crossfit-box in your area. These guys really push themselves and get great results without heavy lifting or boring long-time cardio (e.g. running for 1 hour straight ...).

And of course watch your diet

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johnnyloadproductions

We all know that to lose way, in general, you eat less and exercise more. Of course that's a simplistic statement, but...

If you watch movies or listen to podcasts, read magazines or the newspaper; take those to the gym and get a long cardio session in.
Keeps my heart rate in the low 50's upper 40's and up keeps a nice physical appearance.

georgeyw

It is not just about eating less, you need to cut all the shit out of your diet and eat more frequently. Naturally add in exercise too.

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I've tried ACTUAL insanity, courtesy of Encephalitis a few years ago, if that helps?

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absolutely the truth! eating junk, but less of it, really does you no good. i think the biggest thing for me was cutting out ALL soda/juices (diet or not) as well as cutting out all the snack food - everything from almonds and cashews to twizzlers and jelly beans. eating clean, while difficult at times, has me feeling like an entirely new person!

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theS2O

Tried this once with the video and never had the chance to try it again. But I think the actual session of this workout is much better though.

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i will now check what is that

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TheSquealer

At the end of the day, if you proclaim yourself to be lazy and can't motivate yourself to get on a treadmill, to run, to jog or make major changes in your diet, it absolutely makes no difference what retarded fad video tape you buy.

I own a gym. I deal with diet, exercise and weight loss daily. It's what we do. A "workout" is only worth the energy you put into it and the energy you expend during it. Results will always vary greatly because everyone is working at different levels of intensity. If you openly admit being lazy, you are also announcing you will be working at low intensity, burning very few calories and aren't too likely to change your diet or create good habits.

I watch people all day long give 1/2 an effort and believe they are giving a 110% and have no real results because they are lazy. I watch people all day long give 100% and demand we push them harder because they always feel they can be giving more and they lose 3-4-5 pounds a week. I also have people who are lazy, don't eat well and tell me daily how they are "doing everything right" and are constantly frustrated and switching from one magic pill to the other because they lack the strength of character, required to make an honest assessment of ones self and start making changes.

Exercise is like everything else in life. You only get out of it, what you put into it. So its not fair to anyone to pretend that one video, one workout program etc is a final answer or a better answer. It's not.

The solution is to make the committment to give 100% each and every time you workout.
The solution is to commit 100% to understanding diet, your own daily caloric requirements and being 100% on top of that, day in and day out

Set a target daily calorie goal and make sure you're diet is in check. You don't need to exercise to lose weight. BUT you do need to get your diet under control (or at least modify it) to lose weight. In other words, it takes very little of eating poorly to undo a whole lot of hard exercise. I am also surrounded by people daily who work out like animals but eat horribly and can't understand what the problem is but don't want to start tracking what they eat or give up their favorite foods.

There is no magic pill. (well, there are many...none that are legal and some can quickly kill you, like DNP)

There is no magic dvd or workout program

There is only "calories in vs calories out"

People who deny this, struggle

People who understand this and get their diet under control FIRST, do great

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PR_Glen

so you'd advise jogging for someone who is 250+ lbs? That can work for someone who only needs to lose a bit of weight but if someone isn't able to do that you have to start off a bit more basic. Personally, I'd have them do more resistance training to start.. cardio isn't the answer.

it's never that easy, but you don't have to spend big money and can do a lot of stuff at home with bodyweight.

Madalton try some burpee jumps and get one of those door way chinup bars, crank up your favourite fast paced music and do those two exercises, go for as long as you can stand even if its 2 minutes you will progress from there. You do almost every muscle group with those two exercises alone and all those dvd's basically do the same but more movements to make it seem more legitimate.

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MaDalton

i have done this before and lost like 40 lbs - now 2 years later and after a long winter with xmas food and Vegas internext i gained like 13 lbs in total again.

so i started with my calorie goal again and i have no doubt to lose that 13 lbs - and maybe more.

but i came across people who did these workout programs (and no, that weren't affiliate sites with fake testimonials) and i was really amazed how bodies can transform. and thats not something you can achieve just with a little jogging and lifting a couple of weights

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MaDalton

i hope you don't want to say that i look like i was 250+ lbs

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Antonio

Another vote for P90X

Choopa Phil

You can end the thread with this post . I worked out for a solid 2 years spinning my wheels in place, finally nailed down the diet and training intensity and its brought things to a whole new level. Listen to this guy he knows his stuff!

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MaDalton

just to clear this up - it's not mainly about losing weight for me - i know how to do that and as long as i keep discipline i keep losing - or maintain what i have achieved. people who met me 3 years back and today know that

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TheSquealer

Any product that indicates people are losing or that its realistic to lose more than 2-3 pounds a week is exaggerated or dishonest... unless the subject is morbidly obese.

1 pound of fat = 3500 calories
your daily caloric intake = ~2000-2500 calories
losing 1 pound of fat per week means a daily deficit of ~500 calories. Not difficult.
losing 3 pounds of fat per week means a daily deficit of 1500. Doable, but difficult and most likely "weight loss" is going to be 30-50% lean muscle mass being lost.
losing 5 pounds of body fat per week??? means a daily deficit of 2500 calories. Unless you are in a prison camp, or morbidly obese, not very likely.

You are giving to much credit to a "thing", fake testimonials, tricks of photography and ignoring the fundamentals of human physiology. Dramatic weight loss AND muscle gain DO NOT happen at the same time. Dramatic fat loss causes dramatic lean muscle mass loss. That is not subject to argument. That's a simple fact of human physiology. Bodybuilders don't do cardio. Thats why.

Don't buy into fads, hype and bs. Bodybuilders aren't looking for "fun new exercises" to develop their bodies because there are none. Everyone is doing squats, bench press, curls etc. You have a finite number of muscles. They all serve to either stabilize, push or pull. Every "magic weight loss workout" relies on the same principles... just as every "magic weight loss diet..." relies on the principle of eating fewer calories than you burn.


And I hate to say this, but you are 100% wrong, nothing is going to be more effective for a male when it comes to weight loss and overall health (on many levels) than "a little jogging and lifting a couple of weights".

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dyna mo

i've had good success following DVD workout programs. i find following along to the workouts to be a better motivator than jogging a bit and lifting some weights, not that there is anything wrong with that-it is whatever works.

but re: the op, when it's come time for me to start another p90x cycle and i'm a bit out of it or not feeling like it, i start off with the beachbody 10 minute trainer, just 1 10 minute session a day for a couple days then i am easily adding 10 minute sessions until i am at 40 minutes which is usually enough to get my motivation and such going enough to begin a p90x cycle.

http://www.beachbody.com/product/fit...er.do?t=tmt1b2

MaDalton

well, since you obviously either ignore what i write and/or think i am stupid, i dont think it makes much sense to argue with you since it will end up like a discussion with Paul Markham

and i dont even disagree with you (mostly)

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PR_Glen

haha no man, I was commenting on that statement as it was sounding like they meant anyone can jump in and start running and lose.

you mentioned vegas though, they shut down the weight room there for the show and all i did was what I suggested above.. about a 15-20 minute workout and I didn't gain any weight at the show despite eating my face off.. ( i can't believe how much i ate there.. it was insane!)

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My point, which might have been poorly communicated is that "maintaining" weight loss still requires you to dial in your diet. It's not about DVD you buy or who looks best in the testimonials. And if you think that Jogging and weight lifting are somehow much worse than plyometrics for an adult male to radically transform their bodies, then there is something off with your understanding of exercise.

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dyna mo

i've tended to agree with your reference of " there is only cals in = cals out" but i've read a ton that states this is over-simplified. the research cites various cultures' reactions to a changed diet, individual requirements of macro-nutrients, i.e. a protein type person vs. a carb sort, and finally an extreme example, a 2000 cal diet of mountain dew, potato chips and slim jims is not = to 2000 cals of baked wild salmon and fresh vegetables.

in other words, macro-nutrient ratios and food quality matter more.

MaDalton

ok, maybe this time:

i dont think that jogging and weight lifting are worse, they just LOOK less effective based on REAL (not testimonials) peoples results.

and please dont assume that i can't tell apart what is real and what is fake - that is something i take as insult to my intelligence

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trevesty

The people I know locally who've done Insanity and/or P90x also got quite a bit of muscle tone along with their weight loss.

I was always a heavy weight/low rep guy when I lifted all the time, but I'm going to give P90x a try then Insanity after I'm done.

JFK

fitty.......insane workouts

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