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Good luck man! I did the Atkins diet a couple years ago, and it totally worked. I went from 185lbs to 140lbs.
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You think sending your body into "survival mode" is healthy??? Here's why atkins works. Carbs are your body's #1 source of energy. When you remove them from your diet you go into STARVATION MODE. This is why you loose weight. Your body starts using fat as a source of energy... however it's also using muscle! That's right! While your shedding lbs of fat, your also becoming a WEAKLING! Your muscles go into a cannibalistic state and they become your source of energy because at this point your EXTREMELY malnutritioned! I've seen many people go on this Atkins diet.... all have lost 20-60lbs each... and guess what??? As soon as they stopped the diet they gained EVERY POUND BACK... PLUS SOME! You people are fooling yourselves thinking that a diet of steak and cheese is going to make you a healthy person. Like I said earlier... this diet is for LAZY fuckers that don't stand a chance in the first place. You want to loose some weight and get fit??? Try going to the fucking GYM!!!! ![]()
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Look for a better alternative. Atkins will definitely take the pounds off, but will kill your energy leve along the way. As soon as you try to go back to a more balanced diet... kaboom! you gain all your weight back and then some.
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If you go back to a BALANCED diet you will not gain the weight back. If you go back to the typical American diet you will gain it back but since that is what got you overweight in the first place what else would you expect.
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You are extremely misinformed, and this is not even worth arguing with you. Maybe I should quit my part time job as a personal trainer and go on the atkins diet. ![]()
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Even through a HEALTHY DIET, after atkins weight goes back on as FAT, leaving you with more fat and less protein than you started off with, which leaves you feeling even more out of shape than before, and can start off a vicious circle of yo-yo dieting. Yo-yo dieting messes up your metabolism, and may even raise the levels of harmful cholesterol in the blood, increasing your risk of arterial disease and heart problems. Low-carbohydrate and high-protein plans are potentially dangerous. The diets often contain too much saturated fat and not enough fibre, and lack of carbohydrates puts the body into ketosis. Ketosis is the abnormal metabolic state with unpleasant side effects such as bad breath, nausea, and puts you into a catabolic state! Meaning that it causes you to lose muscle. That's a fact! . The diet can also place a strain on the kidneys. The 'science' behind the diet has been disagreed with by every health professional on the planet! Get a CLUE before spouting info like it's fact. Sure, you may have "results" with Atkins... but it sure as hell is the WRONG way to go about getting healthy! Good luck, your going to need it. Oh, and watch out for high blood pressure, because your at SERIOUS risk of a heart attack before 40 with your methodology. ![]()
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The Atkins diet works by reducing the carb intake. Most friends I've seen try it have dropped 15 to 20 lbs. However its very hard to stay on indefinitely, and usually by about 3 to 6 months the cravings overwhelm the mind because now that they are skinnier they think ok I have room for some carbs again and they go right back where they were before.
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Try reading my post next time before opening your mouth. mmmmk? ![]() Belive whatever the hell you want... Just know this one truth. Crash diets may work for a short period of time. However the only way to be healthy and stay healthy is through a good diet and exercise. Diet & exercise... what's so hard to comprehend about this? You really think these extreme diets are the way to go??? I feel sorry for ya'll as you'll never make it past they yo-yo faze into good health with this mindset.
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You are so full of shit. The notion that the Atkins will force your body to break down muscle is incorrect. Only individuals on very low-calorie diets can lose muscle mass, because they have an inadequate protein intake. So long as you have extra body fat, ketosis is safe and natural. There is nothing harmful, abnormal or dangerous about ketosis. Philadelphia., PA -- A 3-center study led by researchers at the Weight and Eating Disorders Program of the University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine reports the results of the first controlled trial of the Atkins Diet. The Atkins Diet limits carbohydrates but permits unrestricted amounts of protein and fat. Compared to a conventional, high- carbohydrate, low-calorie approach, Atkins dieters lost twice as much weight at 3 and 6 months but there was no difference between the groups at 1 year. Despite the lack of differences in weight loss at 1 year, the Atkins dieters had significantly greater increases in good cholesterol (HDL) and greater decreases in triglycerides. The study, to be published in the May 22 issue of the New England Journal of Medicine, was led by Gary Foster, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Psychiatry and Clinical Director of the Weight and Eating Disorders Program at the University of Pennsylvania. Samuel Klein, MD of Washington University in St. Louis and James Hill, Ph.D. and Holly Wyatt, M.D. of the University of Colorado were the lead investigators at the other centers.
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Honestly I don't understand why people are worried about how other's diet, lose weight etc. Why not try to focus more on the positive aspects of their attempts? |
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market4s is not completely wrong in his thinking. I agree with him where eating healthy and proper exercise is the best way to go...alot of ppl think that once they're on the atkins diet that's all they have to do. eating properly is great! but u also need to exercise in order to maintain the weight loss and get blood flowing and muscles working as well...
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His diet is often misinterpreted. It's not about eating 5 lbs of bacon a day, it's about restricting carbs. The first 2 weeks are pretty extreme, but then you move on to eating more vegetables. You don't have to eat bacon and pork fat. You can eat chicken and fish and other low fat meats. I'm replacing my white flour carbs with veggie carbs. I'm replacing white starches with whole grains. I'm eating more meat instead of more carbs. My doctor says I'm 100% on track and my blood test results echo that. It's not an easy, quick fix, but it's better than eating a big bowl of pasta and taking more glucophage like the US Food Pyramid wants me to do.
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MISINFORMATION! "WHEN you leave this diet..you get all the weight back!" WHEN you leave ANY diet and are not working out...OF COURSE you gain the weight back. DOH! As has been pointed out here..this is a LIFESTYLE change..so pople change HOW and WHAT they eat and continue on leading a normal life and are simply modifying their carb intake! |
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I've done a lot of reading on this subject, and have been on the "diet" (lifestyle change) since 03/03. I've lost 45 pounds in less than 6 months, and haven't put it back on. I don't get hungry, don't have cravings I can't handle. I do give myself "treats"..but I learned to eat SENSIBLY along with working out. I'm comming up on 1 year and I'm not about to change my dietary habits. |
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Atkins and all of the people who write the cookbooks, diet books that are carb related EMPHASIS the need for excercise and working out. IF people are not working out..it's not because Atkins says there is no need to..it's because they are badly uninformed or poorly motivated to work out. But then that's true of ANY diet, not just Atkins. |
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Atkins is great. The long-term key is to get past induction and work enough good carbs (those with lower glycemic impact) into your diet so you stick with it. This is the ultimate challenge. Sure, people who go back to pounding the simple carbs (sugar, white flour, rice, pasta, potatoes) are gonna gain it right back - just like with any diet. People who only do Atkins hardcore (meat, cheese, eggs) to drop some quick weight are always gonna have trouble with yo-yoing because that kind of diet is not maintainable. Also, I don't think any Atkins follower woud ever say that exercise and healthy living isn't important.
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I am not a fan of atkins. Everyone I have seen go on it, put weight back on. I lost 50+ lbs 2 years ago and have kept it off. Simple, low fat, cardio.
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I ended up taking it off with atkins and then keeping it off with moderately watching what I eat, and working a little. Strong emphasis on working out a little.
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![]() it's amazing how lazy people can't understand this. healthy diet & cardio is all you need! ![]() oh, and Centurion.... you better not get too worked up over this thread here hon. you might just have a coronary. ![]() ![]()
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It's amazing how lazy people like yourself can't understand that there are several ways to lose weight. But then, some people like yourself reach a limit on learning at about age 8 I believe. |
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Atkins works, my mom lost a lot of weight on it when she started in this summer. I too am thinking about hopping on it as a lifestyle change, I am thin, but I like the health aspect of it.
As for market4s - If I was a personal trainer, I would be talking hella shit about the Atkins diet too! If people can get thinner without your help, then you aren't getting paid, and you become worthless. |
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![]() bro, i wake up at 6 am every morning and run 8 miles... when i'm done running I go to work.... when i'm done working I hit the gym... when i get back from the gym I fuck my hot girlfriend.... then i go party and drink beer. YES BEER! Because I work my ass off all day I can eat/drink whatever I want, whenever I want. I've worked with people that have come off atkins. Were they skinny? Yeah, sometimes. I'll tell you one thing though... they all had one common trait. J E L L O for muscles! Atkins causes muscle loss and that is FACT! I'm done arguing this with you. It's obvious that your not open to any GOOD advice. Good luck to you.... maybe someday you'll see the light. ![]()
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Your confusing being skinny with being in shape. Two totally different things. Atkins will make you skinny, sure. Exersise however will get you in shape. ![]()
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Keep in mind a few things.
"you will gain it back when you eat NORMAL again"" Yes, this is true. If you go back to eating a High carb diet and making poor food choices you will gain the weight back. "Atkins is a lifestyle." Damn right it is. and I would suggest anyone who is going to try this lifestyle to spend a couple of dollars and by the book. It explains everything in great detail . If your gonna spend the money might as well know what to buy. I am down from 235 to 175 has been off for 18months. This way of life started working for me when I stopped listening to others , read the book, and followed the directions. it's not hard, you just need to be commited. I eat well, I work out, I feel better than ever and have never had a problem.. Old diet. breakfast: Then- Frosted Flakes NOW_ Bacon and Eggs/w cheese Snack: Then-Bag of Chips NOw- Pepperoni Lunch: Then _ Big Mac Fries and coke NOW- Hot Wings and Ice Tea Dinner- Then- Hamburger fucking Helper, veggie, bread, NOw- Steak- greenbeans- and whole wheat. Snack- Then- Big Ass bowl of Ice Cream NOW- Big Ass Bowl of Atkins Low Carb Ice Cream. And about 64oz of water a day. I am not starving. but if I chose to change back eating like the fat fuck I was............I would gain the weight back. And I wouldn't be able to blame Atkins for it. |
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this fucking diet is tough, ive tried it UNINFORMED ... but then my brother did it right, read all the shit, its amazing the shit you can eat ... and after you lose the amount you want you can increase daily carbs and hopefully realize its important to get excercise. my bro lost serious fucking weight, and looks HAPPY again ;)
i think there should be some moderation in everything, but if you really inform yourself about the shit you can eat and do this right it does work, who gives a flying fuck if its not 100% healthy, what is? eating fatburgers every day? if you are smart about it instead of living off bacon then it seems fairly healthy and balanced to me. id rather take a few years off my life and not be a sack of shit. |
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Do you still subscribe to the FDA food pyramid? Even the most anti-Atkins nutritionists have been forced to rethink past ideas, and now conceed that simple carbs (white foods) are bad. Other popular diets (South Beach, Zone, Sugar Busters) are simply derivative of Atkins, and disguise themselves so people can pretend their not relly following Atkins. The number one thing that reduces the risk of a variety diseases is weight loss. So, losing weight all by itself is better than staying fat but hitting the treadmill everyday. Reducing simple sugar intake has shown to greatly improve cholesterol levels, blood pressure, arterioscelorsis, C reactive protein (inflammation) and blood sugar levels(diabetics), in addition to excess weight. |
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i've been on this diet for about 3 months now.
i haven't lost any weight, but i sure look thinner and feel healthier.
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Mack describes it best and probably knows more about nutrition through eating right than the best government educated, fitness training guru on the planet.
If you don't like a diet based on low carbs it's because it busts your bubble. |
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good luck with it. It worked great, but I sure got sick of eating the same foods.
However its very easy to put the weight back on soon as you come off it. Much better to just eat better and limit your calories under 1500 if you can a day. |
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If you want real science vs. profiteering, there you go. Food types have something called a glycemic load. The people mentioning maintaining glucose levels, carbs play a role in that, but so does saturated fat and a bunch of other factors. I'll take Harvard over a multi-million dollar marketing machine for objective opinions on diet and health. - Titus |
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