Ahem... medical records only prove he was prescribed the medication. Medical records do not prove that he was on them that night.

And no, medications do not have side effects if they're prescribed if you're not taking them.

And once again, the burden of proof is on the prosecution. And just like everything else they cannot prove, they can't prove he had those medications in his system on that night.

It's not about what you know, want to believe or think happened... it's about what can be proven. Plain and simple.

what i know, is the defense stated 'toxicology reports' so many times, i just discovered what 'the white guy' was on..

i love these warning labels:

Do we have medical research into what happens if both these drugs are taken at the same time?

best info i can find without barely any searching is 'legal speed'

anyone around who can confirm?

He's also so ignorant about what he's spouting off about that he doesn't know it was the defense that want Martins toxicology report admitted.

I'm actually surprised Richard and Rochard aren't the star witnesses for the prosecution... Seems they had front row seats to the entire incident.

the defense wants Martins' toxicology report admitted?

right right.. sorry

'porch monkeys'

that better?

They had to have a special hearing and argue to have it admitted and did so successfully against the arguments of the prosecution.

Carry on genius ....

just... lol. So much for being an expert eh?



What exactly is this supposed to imply?

In Florida Yes! That simple.

the more I watch this the more I realize its just a show for the media to race bait it. Bringing out the worst on both sides, Stand your ground is law, its that simple if you dont like the law repeal it.

You are not only one of the most ignorant on this board but you are also just plumb dumb.

oddly enough, it did more damage before it was admitted.. ie (toxiology report said 25x in one speech)

so a win for the prosecution?

Did i say i was? are you?

yes you feel the need to repeat that. heard you the first time.

so if you say it again, that questions YOUR intelligence, yes?

You certainly continue to talk as if you are the sole expert on the case...

As for me, if you bothered to read it -- which I doubt -- I gave my opinion on what I think in regards to the incident exactly one time.

The rest has simply been discussing facts, or lack thereof. Unlike you, Rochard and a few others, I haven't pretended that I know what happened.

while i apologize for your perception, you will agree it has very little to do with me.

I posted a link regarding the drugs Zimmerman had been taking/prescribed/whatever, which has a long list of warnings about changes in behaviour, entirely centered on aggressiveness, anxiety, and delusion.

If that suddenly makes me an expert, id be the first to disagree.

unless your a minority

or a woman.

Come on guys .. I hope the "medication info is bad for GZ" comments were meant as sarcasm?

If not, this is quite honestly HILLARIOUS!

1. You are comparing prescription medications against a drug that is illegal in the state of FL.

2. All any brain dead attorney would have to do is call a pharmacist to the stand and they would rattle off THOUSANDS of prescription meds that have the same possible side effects. Have you never listened to a RX commercial on TV?

3. Adderall is used to treat narcolepsy and attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD).

4. Temazepam is benzodiazepine typically used to treat insomnia and anxiety.

5. IF THC were listed as a prescription medication by the FDA it would carry ( at a minimum ) the following adverse side effects according to the US Government. Not saying I agree with these but they would be listed.

Memory Loss: A recent study of marijuana users who began using in adolescence revealed a profound deficit in connections between brain areas responsible for learning and memory. And a large prospective study (following individuals across time) showed that people who began smoking marijuana heavily in their teens lost as much as 8 points in IQ between age 13 and age 38; importantly, the lost cognitive abilities were not restored in those who quit smoking marijuana as adults.

Heart Rate : Marijuana use can have a variety of adverse, short- and long-term effects, especially on cardiopulmonary and mental health.

Marijuana raises heart rate by 20-100 percent shortly after smoking; this effect can last up to 3 hours. In one study, it was estimated that marijuana users have a 4.8-fold increase in the risk of heart attack in the first hour after smoking the drug. This may be due to increased heart rate as well as the effects of marijuana on heart rhythms, causing palpitations and arrhythmias.

Mental Illness: A number of studies have shown an association between chronic marijuana use and mental illness. High doses of marijuana can produce a temporary psychotic reaction (involving hallucinations and paranoia) in some users, and using marijuana can worsen the course of illness in patients with schizophrenia. A series of large prospective studies also showed a link between marijuana use and later development of psychosis. This relationship was influenced by genetic variables as well as the amount of drug used and the age at which it was first taken?those who start young are at increased risk for later problems.

General Effects on Life: Research clearly demonstrates that marijuana has the potential to cause problems in daily life or make a person's existing problems worse. In fact, heavy marijuana users generally report lower life satisfaction, poorer mental and physical health, relationship problems, and less academic and career success compared to their peers who came from similar backgrounds. For example, marijuana use is associated with a higher likelihood of dropping out from school. Several studies also associate workers' marijuana smoking with increased absences, tardiness, accidents, workers' compensation claims, and job turnover.

Pigshit.

You posted that crap article as if it's contents were some smoking gun the prosecution could use to convict; when in fact you didn't even know the facts -- there goes that word again -- regarding said contents...

But at least we can agree that you're definitely not an expert...

The side effects of medical marijuana everyone...

again, perceptions. if you think 'bad news = smoking gun', what can i say?

I didn't know that Zimmerman was on two different prescribed pharmaceuticals.

Did you?

there is, maybe, 5 articles about it. Lots about the minute amounts of THC of course..

too bad no one ever thought to test Zimmerman..

The side effects of ignorance everyone.....

Simply amazing; don't let facts get in the way if they don't support your position.

If Martin was white, and Zimmerman was black, this story would have never even become news. Zimmerman would be in jail right now. Don't even pretend otherwise.

I've known about it since the info first came out last year...

Unlike some people, I actually like to know all the facts, or at least all the available facts... as opposed to being completely ignorant and do nothing but trying to push my own prejudiced opinions, agendas and fantasies as fact...

if this, if that... cry me a river...

The only real difference would be that the trial wouldn't be a media circus, pretending as if it were some racism fueled hate crime. And in case you didn't know this, but they can't just put you in jail without a trial or plea bargain... so that means Martin would have gotten the same trial as Zimmerman is in now, likely under a lesser charge and definitely without all the silly media attention.

So again, go cry me a river with that "white man hold my people down" bullshit.

If a sea of historical facts, showing time and again, how white people repress black people, is all just made up bullshit, then you are right.... but of course, you are not.

Thats exactly what Im talking about...the whole race baiting thing....Thats all this has turned into....damn shame really it shouldnt matter one way or the other and if it hadnt been race baited to death by the media it wouldnt matter one way or the other.

Congrats yer a sheep

cry more... it's 2013. I can't account for the past, and you should stop living in it.

I'll stop living in the past, as soon as history stops repeating itself.

Ahem... black president.

Cry more.

Oh you're right - racism is officially over now. I forgot.

not if your black
http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/11/justic...und-sentencing
Alexander said she was attempting to flee her husband, Rico Gray, on August 1, 2010, when she picked up a handgun and fired a shot into a wall.
She said her husband had read cell phone text messages that she had written to her ex-husband, got angry and tried to strangle her.
She said she escaped and ran to the garage, intending to drive away. But, she said, she forgot her keys, so she picked up her gun and went back into the house. She said her husband threatened to kill her, so she fired one shot.

She got 20yrs.

And i hate to break it to you but black people keep black people down more than anyone else does. I know that that's a very hard pill to swallow but it doesn't change that fact.

And it would seem that even successful black people who made something of their lives instead of blaming the evil white man for their every problem, also agree:

The full article, even though I know you won't read it: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...484600710.html

Just one article out of many, showing the views of a successful black man...

I don't understand what color has to do with anything in this case.

She left, got a firearm, and then returned. That's not standing your ground, that's leaving, arming yourself, then returning and confronting someone with a handgun. If all she did was fire a shot into the wall twenty years is freaking overkill.

Zimmerman couldn't use the stand your ground laws because this was a seventeen minute incident in which Zimmerman followed the victim.

Nothing to do with being black. She went back and fired at him. Its called premeditation. Tony, you are such a fucking idiot. :2 cents:

Word !

http://getdangoodman.com/ghettomyspa...YA-GAME-UP.jpg

Holy crap; did your weight loss include a ton of logic?

me too.. why i posted the article, links, and subsequent messages about it.

hopefully more people will know about all the aggressive/hostile/delusional medications the guy was on

oh, also how everyone seemed to fail the whole 'lets test this guy who just murdered a teenager in his backyard for drugs'

and the defense rests? No more witnesses?

That's because of racism. Everybody knows that black people HATE Mexicans. Or is it the other way around?

I'm reading all the posts that Richard and others are making bringing up race over and over and insinuating that anyone who disagrees might be a racist too.

I think that is a big problem in this world today. Are there racists out there? Hell yes. Black, white, Asian, Latin...lots of them.

Did George Zimmerman follow Trayvon Martin because he was black? I don't know. Maybe it was because he was the neighborhood watch guy, there had been robberies, and Trayvon was walking up in people's yards.

Young black guy with a hoodie on in that circumstance...yeah that does look suspicious. And it would have been just as suspicious if it had been a young white guy with tattoos and a shaved head. Or even a young Mexican guy (Latin gangs are getting really bad across the country)

I don't know what was in Zimmerman's mind. Neither do ANY of you.

And I would bet that if Richard's neighborhood had been burglarized repeatedly and he saw a young black guy walking up in people's yards at night in his neighborhood then he too would be suspicious. And if he saw a young white guy walking up in people's yards wearing a hoodie under those circumstances the same would hold true.

The race doesn't really matter.
There were burglaries. People get nervous and scared. Zimmerman shouldn't have tried to take it into his own hands...but that's what people do when they are frustrated and angry.

Trayvon shouldn't have decided to kick that "cracker" ass (even though Trayvon was so racist that he didn't even see that Zimmerman is NOT a "cracker"...he's Latin)

If you jump on somebody and start a fight...you MAY get your ass shot. It happens all the time, everyday. I've seen it happen many times in my life in the parking lot of bars.

A fight breaks out, a gun gets pulled, people get shot. No mystery there to me.

I don't think Zimmerman shot him because he was black. I believe Zimmerman would have shot me too if I started beating his ass.

Life experience teaches you things, and I've had a gun or two stuck in my face when I was a young man and luckily never got shot and I learned life lessons. Trayvon was one of the unlucky ones who decided to fight the wrong guy at the wrong time.

The whole thing is a nightmare.

And as I said earlier, the prosecution doesn't seem to have met the burden of "beyond a reasonable doubt".
But I'm not sure what the jury will do.

Al Sharpton and other black "leaders" (how has that been working out for the last 50 years?) will start riots if Zimmerman is freed.

So maybe the jury will join in and be intimidated by that thought and put him in jail.

If they find him not guilty...I feel sorry for everybody in Sanford and Orlando.

And the odd thing is: A Mexican shoots an African American...and it's white people's fault. :(