Zimmerman was acquitted when he killed the kid, at least in the minds of all the racist wackjobs in Amerika.

Incorrect. The media has been race baiting this entire ordeal from day 1; not to mention the black community playing the race card every chance they possibly get. The prosecution knows it doesn't have a case - especially for murder 2 - but had to prosecute anyway in order to appease the bullshit outcry from the black community thanks to the media instigating and hyping this whole thing up like it was some massive racism fueled hate crime...

Again, if any of the evidence could prove otherwise, then this would be an entirely different issue. But as it stands right now, the only "evidence" they really have is from some illiterate retard who can't even read a sworn statement that she sign spouting off nonsense about "crazy ass cracka".

But then, none of it really matters anyway. The jury and everyone else involved have made up their mind on innocence or guilt long before the trial actually started.

Yes, just like everyone who doesn't like Obama is racist too...

People like you are the very fucking reason racism will never die.

I agree that the media has been all over the race aspects of this since day one and Martin's family and supporters have played the race card non-stop. I also agree that the prosecution was maybe pressured into a murder 2 charge. They likely wanted to press for manslaughter which may have ended in a plea bargain, but all the media attention forced their hands.

I still think race has a place in the trial. If Zimmerman was racially profiling Martin that has some importance and if Martin's race is what caused Zimmerman to stop and investigate it plays a role in this. Of course, we will never likely know if race did play a role in this or not. The circumstances surrounding this case just don't allow for us to ever know the full truth of how and why things went down.

That is precisely it. There isn't enough evidence one way or another.

Personally, I don't think he should walk away scott free because I don't really buy the whole self defense story. Getting your ass kicked doesn't constitute life threatening in my book... but at the same time, there's also no real way he could have known Martin wasn't armed either.

Had the media not gotten involved and made it look like a racism fueled hate crime then Zimmerman would be looking at manslaughter. And that would have been just in my book because of the lack of evidence. But trying for murder 2 is a waste of everyone's time, and tax payer money because again, there isn't enough evidence one way or another.

I thought there had been a rash of breakins or something done by black suspects. Is that profiling?

Based on WHAT would race play a role? How does race play a role in anything? Thats pretty extreme. This is an assertion that as usual was immediately made by the family (mother?). If race plays a role its merely because everyone is insisting that race plays a role, even though there is no factual basis for that.

Listen to them analyze the 911 call in court. Sounds like he was quite calm and just doing his job. No one says "there's a negro here, can i shoot him because he's a negro". In fact, the call is pretty clear that he is calm, sees a guy that shouldn't be where he is based on how he is acting, how he is wandering all over the place - in and out of peoples yards and so on. He didn't even describe him as being black until he walked closer to Zimmerman as he was talking to the dispatchers (who were already en route). He followed him because the guy was running away and he wanted to keep his eyes on him until the police arrived.

You just can't listen to the 911 call and think "this is a guy who wants to commit an act of violence". he's just calmly doing his job and reporting what he's seeing.... in a neighborhood that's had 8 burglaries in 15 months committed by,... wait for it..... wait for it... wait for it... young black males, who were either witnessed committing the crimes or were subsequently arrested.



And the prosecutor is really a dipshit. Another witness totally devastating his case for him. What a turd.

when will this shit finish

Technically, yes it is. By seeing a black person and thinking, based only on the color of their skin, that they are up to something is profiling.

This doesn't mean that profiling is always incorrect. There are times that it works, but there are times that it can bite you in the ass.

According to the transcript I read Zimmerman did say, "These assholes. They always get away" while he was following Martin.

This doesn't mean that he meant that black people always get away with it. However, my point about race is that the prosecution is trying to paint the picture that Zimmerman profiled Martin and pursued him because he was black. If Martin's race was one of the main reason that he stopped then pursued him then it has a place in the trial. That is all I am saying.

I thought her name was jeantel? LOL

I lasted 22 seconds. During which I heard the prosecutor ask "at the time of the phone call you did not know this would become the george zimmerman case?" :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Holy fucking shit, really? He actually asked that? To do what? To prove what point? To set what tone? What am I missing, in my jaw-dropped state of utter disbelief, and complete lack of patience I always suffer during pointless spoken words?

i would of found him guilty without the media. I was part of a neighborhood watch, your job is to watch and call the police no more. He was looking to play Charles Bronson.
Everybody keeps forgetting Zimmerman was the one with a history of violence and going ape shit not the kid.

I sure as shit hope you never end up on a jury... You have absolutely zero evidence or proof of what actually happened from the time he hung up the 911 call until the police arrived. Your opinion is based on nothing more than speculation and conjecture.

The fact that you would convict someone of murder on nothing more than that makes you worse than Zimmerman...

You really avoid those stupid racial lines though, don't you?
You never lump people together as a racial group to say something negative.

:1orglaugh

Just stating the facts man... Answer me this if you are confused... Which ethnic group spends the most time playing the race card? It is what it is, doesn't make anything I said wrong or "racist" or discriminatory because they are the facts.

The evidence is a dead body, everything beyond that is speculation which you seem to be the king of.

How the hell do you figure that? I haven't given an opinion either way on what I think happened. This entire time I have been talking about the lack of evidence for either side. The thing is, the burden of proof is on the prosecutor, not the defendant...

People are convicted of murder all the time, what more evidence than a dead body and a weapon do you think they normally need to get a conviction??

I don't know... intent, motive, evidence proving it wasn't self defense? Just to name a few.

In most states one has to prove self defense, not the other way around.

you're funny. :1orglaugh

A bit naive but funny.

Martin's parents have already settled a million dollar claim against the homeowners association. Just an FYI .....

You know who never complains about racial issues and never blames everything on race? EVERY fucking racial group apart from blacks.

Crazy how everyone is "racist" but only against one group. Weird right? It's almost as if they are busy just living their lives and not blaming every problem they have on another raciall group.

Bullshit, without the media you never would have known this shooting happened. Every opinion you have formed about this case is based on the media. :2 cents:

What law school did you attend? It is amazing, I have seen well over 50 pieces of evidence introduced and not one of them was the body. Maybe a few photos.

Intent, opportunity and motive are the three standard things that are proven.

A photo of a dead body is not evidence of a dead body?

What law school did you attend? *


*Sucking your cop boyfriends cock does NOT count as law school.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Do you think one photo from a cell phone is all the evidence it takes to convict someone of murder? How about 10?

Dumbass

yea you're right, there is no body.

Cock breath.

you mean murdered. what did he do wrong to be confronted by a guy with a gun? im wondering did he follow him from the store :Oh crap

Not sure what shit hole you crawled out from, but in this country we are innocent until proven guilty. That means the burden of proof is on the prosecution, NOT the defense. Get that through your thick skull you fucking moron. :2 cents:

He was defending himself from what? Zimmerman followed the kid, stalked the kid, and then chased him when Martin fled. An armed man chased a kid who had done nothing wrong and killed.

You can't argue self defense. Zimmerman stared it, and his injuries were minor.

At what point in time did it become acceptable to have armed civilians chasing and killing innocent people?

You're a clever guy and therefore you know what you are not so subtlety insinuating here. Do you understand how that does incredible harm to race relations and does nothing but fuel prejudices?

Follow this for me:

1. A hispanic male is accused of murder
2. He is acquitted in a court of law
3. A then legally innocent guy returns to his position
4. He is murdered in retaliation for his acquittal by blacks
5. Based on your coy remark in the other thread .. innocent whites are also killed by rioting blacks.

This disregards the law and fuels racial tensions. It's also so irrational that boggles the mind.

This is precisely why I don't believe we will ever see racial harmony.

Uhm.... defending himself from getting punched, knocked to the ground, having a guy on top of him punching him repeatedly while beating his head into the pavement? All consistent with the injuries of each party and the eye witness account of the sole eye witness.

You are confusing the shooting with everything else. Pulling out a gun and shooting Martin doesn't have to be related to anything else other than exactly what was happening at the exact moment the gun was fired.

If you want perspective, listen to the 911 call. Its pretty clear Zimmerman was calmly doing his job and waiting for police and doing everything right, guiding police to the area etc etc etc.

And he didn't "stalk the kid" - he was keeping his eyes on him while police were en route.... AND guiding police to his location in the neighborhood. Again, all well documented in the 911 calls.... but who needs facts when you have headlines crafted to sell newspapers, twist facts and cause an emotional response from simpletons to increase readership and ad sales?

You are confused about "he started it" and what that means. All that really matters is what was happening at the moment the gun came out.

All evidence shows he acted in self defense. Even the wounds of each party and an eye witness account supports that.

There is a simple way to avoid someone getting killed in these situations. Don't punch the guy who is doing his job, then climb on top of him, start punching him and beating his head against the pavement.

you know how racist you sound? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh only "the blacks" think zimmerman is guilty! guess you closed your eyes plugged your ears and scrolled past Rochard's statement above yours :1orglaugh guess what? he's not black!! :helpme :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

He was told to stay in the car.also everyone scims over this guy had a history of being violent.

No, he was not told to stay in the car.

Second, it wouldn't matter if he was told to stay in the car as its 100% irrelevant and carries no legal weight if he was.

Last, uhm... wait for it...
wait...

Why was Martin suspended from school for (one of the 3 times)....?

The investigator later saw Martin mark a door with "W.T.F." or "what the f--k," the report said. When the school cop searched Martin's backpack the next day looking for the graffiti marker, he reported he found women's jewelry and a screwdriver described as a "burglary tool," the report said.

According to the report, the 12 pieces of jewelry included silver wedding bands, earrings with diamonds and a watch. The investigator asked about the jewelry and "Martin replied it's not mine. A friend gave it to me," the report said.

Uh oh... almost seems like a ....

Burglar?

1. If you think white people would kill Zimmerman in response to his acquittal then you are delusional.

2. If you think white people will riot and murder in response to his acquittal you are delusional

My guess is you purposely misrepresented what I wrote because you realize how illogical your position is.

I never said that only "the blacks" think zimmerman is guilty. :error

as far as i heard on 911 she said wait for the police they are on the way.

I was on a neighborhood watch. Your job is to call police. The kid may have been a thief but he stole nothing and geo with a history of violence killed someone.