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wehateporn 09-13-2010 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by The Trash Heap (Post 17499428)

Do i think Bush used the attacks to start another war? Yes.
Would planes flying into the WTC be enough for him to start a war? Yes.

The aircraft carriers had already traveled to Afghan just before 9/11 and were waiting ready to attack

Overload 09-13-2010 05:49 PM

ground stop ... airforce one had to land and yet the bin laden family (sauds, bush family friends) jet was allowed to head out ... hmmm?

Amputate Your Head 09-13-2010 06:14 PM

if you haven't watched Loose Change 9/11 then you need to.

if you've seen it and still have no problem with the government's version of events, there is something wrong with you.

Overload 09-13-2010 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by tabasco (Post 17499532)
Fear and panic. Plus you'll find a record insurance policy was taken out on the buildings specifically covering acts or terrorism not too long before it happened.

didnt silverstein claim a $1 BILLION per impact? sniff sniff - i smell fish here :2 cents:

Overload 09-13-2010 06:28 PM

what really worries me most ... the towers came down in FREE FALL SPEED as if there was no inner structure whatsoever ... if my memo serves me well there once was a bomber crashing into the ESB and it burned bright alight four HOURS - and yet it didnt bring the tower down ... and then just a FEW minutes of fire brought down the WTC? a joke ...

TheDoc 09-13-2010 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 17499681)
Much in this post is pure pigshit.

You can easily look it up on Google, most is easily to obtain information from wiki...

We did attack ourselves/stage a fake attack for Vietnam, the USSR was falling and people secretly did get accused, a USSR military build up was not happening and our schools did promote fear, they did lie about the build up in general, the terrorist cells in America were never found to be real, dirty bombs are not actually dangerious, we twisted what al-qieda did/was into funded and name given Al-Qaeda to Bin Laden, and we have attacked ourselves in other ways, tests, etc.. all again can be looked up and is public information.

Overload 09-13-2010 06:32 PM

http://patriotsquestion911.com/

Overload 09-13-2010 06:37 PM

besides of all that ... if planes brought down the towers - how come the damage to the pentagon is so little? i mean ... serious - if all impacts had been caused by similar planes ... how come the pentagon was just a lil penetrated and the towers went down? the story doesnt add up at all :(

opflix 09-13-2010 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17498753)
But in this case, there isn't anything that says "the US is behind this".

the fact that you look at the facts and circumstances surrounding what happened and make this statement shows your personal refusal to acknowledge the possibility. wake up, unplug dude. then again, its impossible to debate with people who are part of a culture that embraces belief in fantastical beings and fairy tales :2 cents:

Mock NyaMout 09-13-2010 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DBS.US (Post 17491009)


Remember Building 7


r u fuckin jokin ?

This guy is looking for a good report. Where and why was he there filming this ?

and were there reports of casualties from that bus and those cars ?

editing was intentional so we dont know if explosion sounds were edited.

trash vid

theking 09-13-2010 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17499860)
You can easily look it up on Google, most is easily to obtain information from wiki...

We did attack ourselves/stage a fake attack for Vietnam, the USSR was falling and people secretly did get accused, a USSR military build up was not happening and our schools did promote fear, they did lie about the build up in general, the terrorist cells in America were never found to be real, dirty bombs are not actually dangerious, we twisted what al-qieda did/was into funded and name given Al-Qaeda to Bin Laden, and we have attacked ourselves in other ways, tests, etc.. all again can be looked up and is public information.

I do not need to google...to be aware of what you are saying...as I am already aware of everything you have stated...but the spin either you put on these events or the spin that what ever articles you may have read have put on these events...is pigshit.

Overload 09-13-2010 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by opflix (Post 17499892)
the fact that you look at the facts and circumstances surrounding what happened and make this statement shows your personal refusal to acknowledge the possibility. wake up, unplug dude. then again, its impossible to debate with people who are part of a culture that embraces belief in fantastical beings and fairy tales :2 cents:

"in god we trust" says it all, not? most US citz BELIEVE in what they are told from "above" (be it god - how sick is that in the first place - or gov) .... BELIEVE is the trust in NOT KNOWING :2 cents:

iMind 09-13-2010 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 17499896)
I do not need to google...to be aware of what you are saying...as I am already aware of everything you have stated...but the spin either you put on these events or the spin that what ever articles you may have read have put on these events...is pigshit.

Hey , hows pathfinder ?

I find it funny of the four people that are most vocal against the 9/11 questions,
1 has faked his death on a board called go fuck yourself.
one is obviously nuts
another is obviously trying real hard to get under Amps skin and failing MISERABLY and the last can't tell the difference between "you're and your" and we're supposed to guess that he's intelligent hahha

Wake up people, nobody is saying GWB or the GOV did it, all that's being said is to ASK QUESTIONS, LOOK AT THE EVENTS , don't just blindly believe what you are told by the higher ups.... they do NOT care about you.

Mock NyaMout 09-13-2010 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17494869)
are you fucking kidding me?


There was no need to investigate how the buildings fell. It was captured on video what happened, a plane flew into the building, took out several floors, building caught fire then collapsed couple hours later . What the fuck is there to investigate ?

Why?? it didn't fall the way you conspiracy idiots thought it should fall? How many times has a plane crashed into a building and you watched it fall? how the fuck do you know how its suppose to fall ??

What is more logical, the govt did piss poor job protecting us, it really was terrorist who really do hate us and wanted to try to kill us, that when the plane crashed into the building it took out a lot of the supporting structure, weakening it, then the intense fire was enough to cause it to collapse... or

it was all planned, they had explosives planted in the building and controlled the planes.

If this was planned why in the hell would they blow up the buildings, you don't think crashing two planes into them wouldn't have been enough. Why didn't they blow up the pentagon too ? It would have still killed 100s if not thousands of people even if the building didn't fall. It would still have gotten 100% of the country behind whatever Bush wanted to do...

It is fine to question govt but at some point if your common sense gets over powered by your retard side, you need to stop and get your head on straight and look at this shit logically and not get caught up with all the other crazies.



PHYSICS and POILITRIX

opflix 09-13-2010 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by iMind (Post 17499906)
Wake up people, nobody is saying GWB or the GOV did it, all that's being said is to ASK QUESTIONS, LOOK AT THE EVENTS , don't just blindly believe what you are told by the higher ups.... they do NOT care about you.

BLUE PILL or RED PILL? blue pill lets you sleep and enjoy the dream given by those who wish you to see what THEY want you to see, believe what THEY want you to believe, live and breathe false happiness and suffering. red pill gives you knowledge that will probably sicken you in exchange for freedom. which do you choose?

iMind 09-13-2010 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by opflix (Post 17499911)
BLUE PILL or RED PILL? blue pill lets you sleep and enjoy the dream given by those who wish you to see what THEY want you to see, believe what THEY want you to believe, live and breathe false happiness and suffering. red pill gives you knowledge that will probably sicken you in exchange for freedom. which do you choose?

ya know, very often I wish I could just be another retard.
One that doesn't question things, and could just go through life happy, stupid and blind.

You can see how people fight so vigorously to defend truths they do not now, simply because they don't know how to deal with the fact that most of what they know, simply is not true.

Mock NyaMout 09-13-2010 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by scottybuzz (Post 17491140)
Tell me if this was all planned by the U.S. government, why didn't they plant WMD in Iraq, one seems alot easier than the other and the latter would justify the first would it not?


someone would of seen them and it would of been overdoing it.


PLUS there is no need cause things were going as planned

iMind 09-13-2010 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by the indigo (Post 17496326)

And here's what some of the people who WROTE it have to say about it:


The co-chairs of the 9/11 Commission (Thomas Keane and Lee Hamilton) said that the CIA ?obstructed our investigation?.

The co-chairs of the 9/11 Commission also said that the 9/11 Commissioners knew that military officials misrepresented the facts to the Commission, and the Commission considered recommending criminal charges for such false statements, yet didn?t bother to tell the American people

Indeed, the co-chairs of the Commission now admit that the Commission largely operated based upon political considerations.

9/11 Commission co-chair Lee Hamilton says ?I don?t believe for a minute we got everything right?, that the Commission was set up to fail, that people should keep asking questions about 9/11, that the 9/11 debate should continue, and that the 9/11 Commission report was only ?the first draft? of history.

9/11 Commissioner Bob Kerrey said that ?There are ample reasons to suspect that there may be some alternative to what we outlined in our version . . . We didn?t have access . . . .?

9/11 Commissioner Timothy Roemer said ?We were extremely frustrated with the false statements we were getting?

Former 9/11 Commissioner Max Cleland resigned from the Commission, stating: ?It is a national scandal?; ?This investigation is now compromised?; and ?One of these days we will have to get the full story because the 9-11 issue is so important to America. But this White House wants to cover it up?.

9/11 Commissioner John Lehman said that ?We purposely put together a staff that had - in a way - conflicts of interest?.

The Senior Counsel to the 9/11 Commission (John Farmer) who led the 9/11 staff?s inquiry, said ?I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described ?. The tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years?. This is not spin. This is not true.?


So the people who WROTE the official report don't believe it, but you fucktards do..

Good job.

will76 09-13-2010 07:25 PM

LOL fucking wackos, nutjobs, social outcasts and losers.... nice club you guys have going here! Waiting for a few more of you freaks to show you and it will be a full blown nutso party.

TheDoc 09-13-2010 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 17499896)
I do not need to google...to be aware of what you are saying...as I am already aware of everything you have stated...but the spin either you put on these events or the spin that what ever articles you may have read have put on these events...is pigshit.

I added no spin or twist, most of what I said is available on wiki and backed with sources.

The point of my post was to show that our Country has and would attack itself, to show that it has lied to Americans in the past, they will attack us, they will create false reports by any means, we have and do build/finance "terrorists" and so on.

The continual lies, false attacks, fears blasted onto the people for the last 30 years (if not longer) has been 90% complete bullshit. Americans are lost in a pool of fears, corruption and bullshit of lies so deep nobody climb out.

To think we didn't or couldn't help/influence/finance or something to do with 9/11 is completely irrational when our Country has done it without a second thought so many times before.

Mock NyaMout 09-13-2010 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by The Trash Heap (Post 17496049)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=wVyH40iz6PQ

Damn, you just got owned. You fucking know it all idiot.

are you saying it wasnt a commercial flight
or is this a reliable source about buildings



maybe king kong hurled the planes

TheDoc 09-13-2010 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17499955)
LOL fucking wackos, nutjobs, social outcasts and losers.... nice club you guys have going here! Waiting for a few more of you freaks to show you and it will be a full blown nutso party.

That's brilliant logic to use... Your Country has killed it's own citizen in declassified documents and planned it many other times and without question has financed terrorist cells/rouge countries and dictators and put them in power, all over the world - some of which have attacked us with our own weapons and some of which we attacked, after we built them up.

If you don't question it... you're an extreme sheep and a great example of what's truly wrong with our Country. Even if we didn't do it - to think we wouldn't, is ignoring history.

Rochard 09-13-2010 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Overload (Post 17499872)
besides of all that ... if planes brought down the towers - how come the damage to the pentagon is so little? i mean ... serious - if all impacts had been caused by similar planes ... how come the pentagon was just a lil penetrated and the towers went down? the story doesnt add up at all :(

You claim the damage to the Pentagon was "so little". You need to keep in mind exactly how big the Pentagon is. It took broke through the outer ring, which is what - two hundred or three hundred feet deep?

opflix 09-13-2010 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17500184)
You claim the damage to the Pentagon was "so little". You need to keep in mind exactly how big the Pentagon is. It took broke through the outer ring, which is what - two hundred or three hundred feet deep?

you've made it very clear you're a 'believer' bro... keep believing, not questioning.... sleeping. whatever helps you sleep at night :thumbsup

Amputate Your Head 09-13-2010 10:23 PM

Saudis, U.S. near $60 billion arms deal - Sep 2010
Record sale of jets, helicopters is seen as way to counter Iran

http://msnbcmedia1.msn.com/j/MSNBC/C...s.grid-6x2.jpg
F-15 fighter jets are widely deployed across the U.S. military, and Saudi Arabia might soon be buying 84 from the U.S.

WASHINGTON ? The Obama administration will soon notify Congress of an arms package for Saudi Arabia worth up to $60 billion, U.S. officials said Monday, a potentially record-breaking deal that may help counter Iran's growing regional muscle.

The deal would apparently represent the largest single U.S. arms sale ever approved. It would allow Saudi Arabia, the most militarily advanced of the Arab Gulf states and one of the richest countries in the world, to buy top-line U.S.-made helicopters and fighter jets with ranges that would span the Middle East and beyond.

LINK


:2 cents: Still think all of this stuff is just random disconnected events? That the numero uno Super Power on this planet is run by a reactionary government?

wake-up day is going to be harsh.

opflix 09-13-2010 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17500265)
wake-up day is going to be harsh.

there will be no 'wake-up day' cuz they need for the public to sleep in order for these things to be made possible. awareness is exactly what they want to avoid... why do you think wikileaks is slowly becoming one of their biggest threats? sources of truth must be eradicated but directly doing so only stirs the masses and threatens the sleep they worked so hard to bring about. the smear campaign on their 'leader' has already begun.

Blingbaby 09-14-2010 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17497495)
I never heard this.

some other stuff you never heard...

My only question, speaking of sheep, why do you seem to take such a stance against even a theoretical possibility that you have been duped here? Certainly would not be the first time in history that governments *ahem* PEOPLE that work in governments have orchestrated devious schemes for self profit at the expense of the people they claim to represent..

Seriously this thread presents some information that you just dismiss almost robotically.. we all love our country but common man you're seriously missing the point of *We the people.. :2 cents:

Blingbaby 09-14-2010 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by The Trash Heap (Post 17497616)
Yes, you are saying that you fucking imbecile. Over and over and over again.

When all else fails, insult your opponent. That always shows your superior intellect.. :error

RRACY 03-06-2012 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17492457)
obvious false flag. :2 cents:

Not obvious to the average person because they haven't looked into it, although they may still believe there was some type of coverup. 911, is very obviously a government created conspiracy theory to anyone with an open mind who simply looks at the news footage, particularly, what aired live.

Dirty F 03-06-2012 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by RRACY (Post 18805881)
Not obvious to the average person because they haven't looked into it, although they may still believe there was some type of coverup. 911, is very obviously a government created conspiracy theory to anyone with an open mind who simply looks at the news footage, particularly, what aired live.

Do you have some kind of evidence for this?

PR_Glen 03-06-2012 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 18805892)
Do you have some kind of evidence for this?

they never do..

i have an observation though... the harder they push the conspiracy nonsense on others the less employed they are. The more time they spend convincing people of the 'truth' the more broke they seem.

is this a coincidence or are they rebelling against it all so hard that they refuse to make money and be 'a part of the problem'? We may never know.. :1orglaugh

DOWN WITH MAKING MONEY!

sperbonzo 03-06-2012 08:59 AM

Here is an interesting question to consider. If I'm GWB and I have set up the fake 911 attack, with all of the HUGE risk of it being uncovered and exposed, due to the very large numbers of people that would have to be involved and the very public nature of the operation....


.... The WHY wouldn't I send in a small seal team into the middle of the Iraqi desert in the middle of the night just prior to the invasion, and hide a bunch of WMDs to be found by regular forces a week later? MUCH more simple to do, MUCH less risk of something going wrong or being exposed. And it would completely vindicate the invasion and put the entire US population on my side...


.... Can anyone answer this for me please? Doesn't make sense to me.





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Rochard 03-06-2012 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by RRACY (Post 18805881)
Not obvious to the average person because they haven't looked into it, although they may still believe there was some type of coverup. 911, is very obviously a government created conspiracy theory to anyone with an open mind who simply looks at the news footage, particularly, what aired live.

Someone with a fake nick was bored today!

Rochard 03-06-2012 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 18806066)
Here is an interesting question to consider. If I'm GWB and I have set up the fake 911 attack, with all of the HUGE risk of it being uncovered and exposed, due to the very large numbers of people that would have to be involved and the very public nature of the operation....


.... The WHY wouldn't I send in a small seal team into the middle of the Iraqi desert in the middle of the night just prior to the invasion, and hide a bunch of WMDs to be found by regular forces a week later? MUCH more simple to do, MUCH less risk of something going wrong or being exposed. And it would completely vindicate the invasion and put the entire US population on my side...


.... Can anyone answer this for me please? Doesn't make sense to me.

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I don't understand the question. Are you saying that Bush put a Special Forces team into Iraq shortly before the invasion, or that he should of? We did have boots on the ground in Iraq before the invasion - that's exactly what Special Forces do. They go in and quietly do reconnaissance so we know what to hit.

wehateporn 03-06-2012 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 18805938)
i have an observation though... the harder they push the conspiracy nonsense on others the less employed they are. The more time they spend convincing people of the 'truth' the more broke they seem.

is this a coincidence or are they rebelling against it all so hard that they refuse to make money and be 'a part of the problem'? We may never know.. :1orglaugh

DOWN WITH MAKING MONEY!

Fury as academics claim 9/11 was 'inside job'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...nside-job.html

Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archite...for_9/11_Truth

Perhaps they all get sacked, or more likely your conclusion was based on a sample size too small to be statistically significant :2 cents:

wehateporn 03-06-2012 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 18806066)
Here is an interesting question to consider. If I'm GWB and I have set up the fake 911 attack, with all of the HUGE risk of it being uncovered and exposed, due to the very large numbers of people that would have to be involved and the very public nature of the operation....


.... The WHY wouldn't I send in a small seal team into the middle of the Iraqi desert in the middle of the night just prior to the invasion, and hide a bunch of WMDs to be found by regular forces a week later? MUCH more simple to do, MUCH less risk of something going wrong or being exposed. And it would completely vindicate the invasion and put the entire US population on my side...


.... Can anyone answer this for me please? Doesn't make sense to me.


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With hindsight they'd change a lot. 9/11 works well on TV, it catches people's attention, a psychological attack on the citizens of the US. American's were starting to feel too safe and comfortable.

Then of course there is the possibility that 9/11 is the false flag that's meant to be found out, to eventually bring down the USA from within when the time is right. It's well known that the US is one of the biggest obstacles to the UN. This last theory is just speculation for now. :2 cents:

Fap 03-06-2012 09:50 AM

I knew this would turn into a crazy conspiracy thread :(

Phoenix 03-06-2012 09:53 AM

it is too late

get with the plan or keep it to yourself...soon people will be reporting others for not believing official stories

Dirty F 03-06-2012 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by RRACY (Post 18805881)
Not obvious to the average person because they haven't looked into it, although they may still believe there was some type of coverup. 911, is very obviously a government created conspiracy theory to anyone with an open mind who simply looks at the news footage, particularly, what aired live.

Let me try it again. Maybe you didn't understand the question the first time.

Do you have any kind of evidence to back this up? Like...any...any evidence whatsoever?

sperbonzo 03-06-2012 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18806089)
I don't understand the question. Are you saying that Bush put a Special Forces team into Iraq shortly before the invasion, or that he should of? We did have boots on the ground in Iraq before the invasion - that's exactly what Special Forces do. They go in and quietly do reconnaissance so we know what to hit.


Please re read it carefully. My point is that if Bush was going to go through all the trouble of faking 911, then why not fake Saddam having WMDs ALSO? It would have been much easier to pull off...


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