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Now look closely at who got annoyed after my 'Coffee-Bitch' post #671, even though I didn't name names, it's clear who was insulted at being exposed. Now they'll even try to get some type of forum revenge by making stuff up e.g.
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I'd like to see a model put together based on the ratios of frame strength vs concrete and overall weight supported. Then pick up the top 20 floors (or whatever it was) of the model and drop it two floors free fall. My instincts say the frame holds up but Wiki and many others say diff. I don't know yet. I do admire folks who argue for truth. And you all have a thicker skin than me. I get way too sensitive when Frank calls me "retardo boy" lol :) Anyhow kudos to "truthers" who are only doing what they believe is correct. |
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But when it comes to 9/11, we all saw two airplanes hit two towers and then watched two towers fall. Nothing that the so called "truth movement" has shown me as even made me consider anything else. "They" can't even come up with are valid reason why we are want to invade Afghanistan - there isn't a good reason. And if this was some kind of false fag attack, why use airplanes at all? |
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Eh no point in continuing this. You're not going to be able to explain physics to someone who's only education consists of making a porn gallery and putting it online. The whole free fall theory is disregarded because it's too complicated to understand. It involves science and the people who defend the govt Answers on 9-11 live in a bubble and no matter what facts you throw at them they will continue to say show me proof. If you have Silverstein the owner of the entire site, in an interview, 2 days after the whole event, telling you that they decided to pull building 7, what more proof do you need that building 7 was demolished? The owner is telling you it was done!!! Holy shit!
I lost friends there tha day. My grandfather was also on his way home from work in manhattan that day. Another friend got off the bus outside of the tunnel that comes out right at the site moments before the collapse took place. Her and her twin sister almost lost their lives as they ran from the falling building. I watched every moment unfold on NYC news. Not Arizona news or whatever. I have friends who were firemen there that day who are alive still (thank god) who saw way more than you long distance experts ever did. Your ignorance is doing a disservice to people like this. It's not a bad thing to ask for answers! For you to attack truthers because you think you just know it all just because you do is arrogant and ignorant. Because you live in a bubble makes you think that a govt can in no way take part in something like this or to think that no one else in the world was really behind this because the world is made of pink fluffy bunnies and clouds. Silverstein increased his insurance policy on the site just days before 9-11. Then he tells you they decided to pull the buildings. Connect the dots if you can't understand physics at least! In any other crime investigation motive leads to the killer. Use your brains for two seconds people! |
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so now the people who are debating the truthers and pointing out the incredible amount of holes are somehow involved in another conspiracy to keep people posting, doing their job. Im really curious if you think I am doing something other than expressing my opinion and pointing out holes in your theories. disguised as a genuine poster? Wow, you are on the verge of falling over the abyss and into the realm of full blown paranoid psychosis. |
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Your "pull" proof is ridiculous on the face. The Fire Chief does not report to Silverstein and in the context of Silverstein and the Fire Chief discussing anything, the world "pull" does not translate to demolation. Further, as I already said, "pull" in the context of demolition means to actually pull not set off charges. You are in New York and had friends there. Great, unfortunately that doesn't qualify you as any sort of expert as to what happened. |
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Not you xholly, you're a legit poster. I don't want to name names, afterall GFY is setup this way for a reason and it's worked very well. Put yourself in the shoes of a forum owner and think of how you'd make your site successful :2 cents: |
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By the way Ann-Angelcom, you've made some fantastic posts. In particular the Bush reading stories point is something that's rarely mentioned, or at least not in the same context as you said
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Most people who were directly Affected by 9-11 do not have answers only questions. That is why the conspiracy even exists. There are too many loop holes in the govt explanation of what happened that day. Too many things that any logical thinking human being would question yet no one provides the truth.
Had there been a proper investigation there would be no questions. But they lied and hid facts. Why? Ask yourself that? Some people say why would they use planes then. Why not just blow it up? Well that's pretty obvious too. To make people not question it! Duh of course they fell...a plane flew into them! Most simple people would say therefore taking away credibility from truthers. Am I an expert? A scientist? No. But because I was directly affected by the disaster I was forced to pay attention to detail. Unlike some of you who refuse to do so simply because you don't care enough to learn. Yet you continue tO come here and post some bs about shit you learned from fox or a friend. You weren't watching and hanging on every word of the news anchors that day as you waited for your loved one to come home. You saw the news while it was on tv while you were masturbating and posting stupid shit on gfy. You never even bothered to revisit it. Never bothered to read more or learn more. To you it was a distant day 10 years ago in a distant place. A movie. So if you have no answers to the questions posted here. Other than trying to make people out to be crazy because they are asking questions. Do me a favor and gfy. You have no right and you're offensive to those of us who lost loved ones. You're an ignorant joke. And stop pretending you do have the answer because if the families who lost loved ones don't have answers still you sure as hell don't. |
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Nobody is calling people lunatics for asking questions. We're calling people lunatics for jumping to wild, unfounded conclusions. Much like what you're doing right now. |
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Using your screen name for example, it would be like saying everyone who is not Pro-Zionist is Anti-Jew. Again, this is also not true, but some people like to generalize like that. |
I wonder how many more crimes Israel will be able to get away with and cry the anti-semantism card? It is starting to ware out each time they do it.
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Just about to give up on this one. Seems like some people are just never going to admit anything other than their own belief. This conversation is much like trying to tell someone Jesus is a myth. You can give them the science of why it was impossible for him to walk on water but people will still believe it. This very much stems from ignorance and the inability to think from a to z instead of from a to b.
I never said a truther has answers. Matter of fact they don't. That have questions! Why? Why? Why? They never for one second say this is why. They say why?? Why did the building fall at free fall. Why did 7 collapse? Why did Silverstein know it and decide it would come down? Why?????? The only people with answers here are the arrogant bozos against the truther movement. Duh "pancake". Duh "pentagon plane was shown on camera". Only it wasn't. The stupid answers have left questions for people who lost friends and family that will never be answered. Shame on anyone who defends that. But the point is let people ask questions. Hell you should ask too. But don't talk down to people who do just because you believe Santa Claus exists. Like I said you're doing a disservice to the Heroes and victims of that day. And you're an insult to them as well. Pornojew. Yes you're right. Exactly. Just do me a favor and don't say that to anyone else who lost people there. Continue living in your bubble and that's fine. Just don't make ignorant statements like that in public. It's insulting to people who care much more about this than you do and have already investigated this much more than you ever well only leading to dead ends and more questions. |
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Then of course there is that tiny project called The Trans-Afghanistan Pipeline that will supply natural gas to India and Pakistan. And with Indian exploding right now in growth, this is going to be a big money maker. Paid for by.... wait for it... The Asian Development Bank, which is like an Asian version of the World Bank, with it's biggest shareholders being... wait for it... The USA and Japan, with China and India owning a stake as well. But I doubt it would be due to either of those reasons. Probably all just a coincidence and the real reason was to hunt a handful of Taliban who live in caves and huts and herd goats when they are not plotting epic terror attacks. Which I may add they did find Osama's play book when they killed him and the biggest attack written in it was laying logs (cut down trees) across rail road tracks in the USA. Epic stuff. |
Can I just point out again the simple fact of wtc7 falling and the govt saying it sustained so much damage it fell? Forget the fact that the news anchors and even the owner of the site Silverstein all said it was planned. Just look at that map again and use common sense. You see the buildings that are almost attached to the twin towers that's how close they are? They are all fine today and standing. Not only that but had you visited the site a short time after the attack you would know that those buildings also did not look bad at all!!! The windows and faces that were directly facing the twin towers were all blown out. But that was it!!!!!!! So now you're going to believe wt7 which is behind another building that is massive collapsed because of damage from the attack? But the one between it and the source of the attack blast is standing just fine? How much more proof do you need that it's impossible!? If you've never been to the site or visited the towers before the attack to know how this area is set up first hand Just keep your mouth shut.
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With the clear and overwhelming evidence of drones, it was inevitable that a few eyewitnesses would corroborate the video footage of drones for both towers. Stewart, said he saw something bump into tower 1 before it exploded. That certainly wasn't a plane, because a plane would crash into it, not bump.
He says, "I'm not sure, if it was a ????? (plane). Of course it wasn't a plane, Stewy, and you gave the truth some of the best early testimony that no planes of any kind were seen for either tower because neither had wings. His subconscious gave every word, but 'plane', leaving no doubt that his conscious state prevented that last word. But, we already know those goofy french kids did not film a plane or really any identifiable object which corrorborates Stewart's verified account. Bryant Gumbel: It's 8:52 here in New York, I'm Bryant Gumbel. We understand that there has been a plane crash on the southern tip of Manhattan. You're looking at the WTC. We understand that a plane has crashed into the WTC. We don't know anything more than that. We don't know if it was a commercial aircraft. We don't know if it was a private aircraft. We have no idea how many were on board, or what the extent of the injuries are right now. We are, uh, we have, I understand, an eyewitness on the phone right now. Sir... [cuts to commercial briefly] BG: ...your name? Stewart: Yeah, my name is Stewart. BG: Sir, where are you right now? S: I'm working at a restaurant in Soho. (northeast of the towers) BG: Alright, so tell us what you saw if you would? S: I literally, I was waiting a table and I literally saw a -- it seemed to be like the small plane. I just heard a couple of noises. It looked like it bounced off the building and then I heard, uh, I saw a huge like ball of fire on top and then the smoke seemed to simmer down and it just stunned -- you know a lot of smoke was coming out and that's pretty much the extent of what I saw. BG: A private aircraft? S: I'm not sure, if it was a -- it just seemed like a smaller plane. I don't think it was anything commercial. BG: Did you, could you tell us whether or not it was a prop, or a jet . S: I honestly don't know. It happened too quickly http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/a...towerdrone.jpg http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/a...GIFSoupcom.gif WTC MISSILE STRIKE ON 911: EYE WITNESS SAW "A SMALL PLANE" - YouTube http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP.../11/bn.01.html Now we want to bring in Todd Harris (ph). Todd on the scene, saw what happened. Todd, corroborates the Naudet footage, which captured a slow moving blob that dive dropped into tower 1.. Todd are you with us? TODD HARRIS: Yes, I had a perfect view, and the plane was coming in. I noticed it a second before it hit the building. It looked like it was moving slowly, and it lined itself up to hit the building directly. KAGAN: Are you talking about the first plane or the second plane? HARRIS: The first plane. |
I was able capture the bogey as it peeked out and then a quick edit occurs to well after the explosion. These guys did not see a plane and were confused as to how the south tower exploded. There's little doubt they made mention of the object and that audio would've been edited out too. There are countless videos with the impact edited out because they weren't going to insert fake plane images into all of them. You can see him pan to the right when the bogey caught his eye.
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This man had a north view of the towers and saw the drone coming from the west. OK, we actually have an "Eyewitness News" reporter, Dr. J. Atlasberg (ph) who was downtown at the time and he is on the phone with us live. Dr. J., what can you tell us? DR. J. ATLASBERG (ph), REPORTER: Hello, Steve. I'm actually uptown at 86th and Riverside. I can see the World Trade Center from about half the building up to the top. And about five minutes ago, as I was watching the smoke, a small plane -- I did -- it looked like a propeller plane, came in from the west. And about 20 or 25 stories below the top of the center, disappeared for a second, and then explode behind a water tower, so I couldn't tell whether it hit the building or not. But it was very visible, that a plane had come in at a low altitude and appeared to crash into the World Trade Center. http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/a...GIFSoupcom.gif ABC News Special Report: "Planes crash into World Trade Center" He never saw a plane like that before, because it wasn't a plane at all. He said it twice, corroborating witnesses like Burnback and Oliver who described a drone. It was identical to what hit the north tower. Mr Arraki "Yeah. I--I saw--yeah, I saw the second plane, it go boom. I--I heard, you know. I just wake up my head like that I saw the side, too" Arraki claims that the plane that hit WTC2 was identical to the plane that hit WTC1. Arraki's description of the first plane is reproduced below: "I saw it come up from the left, and I saw the plane coming through to the building, go inside, a small plane, no, no, it was plane, you know, like they teach the people to pilot plane, small plane, you know, it was that kind of plane, yes, going into the building, and I never saw that plane before. It's like something, I don't know, it's like they work with the motors, I never saw a plane like that before!" Mark, cryptically laughs at the end of his description, further proving that he was describing the slow moving drone, and falling short of confirming that it really wasn't a plane. It's no different than Jean Hill saying she saw the secret service shooting back, but falling short of fingering the driver. Of course it didn't belong in the area because it was a drone and not the boeing 767 it was supposed to be. Eyewitness on 9/11 Mark Burnback was able to get a good view of the plane that hit the World Trade Center, because he said that the plane was flying very low. He explained to FOX News that the plane had no windows, a blue logo, and did not look like a commercial plane. Fox NewsCaster: "Mark Burnback, a Fox employee, is on the phone with us. Mark witnessed this... Mark were you close enough to see any markings on the airplane?" Mark Burnback: "Hi gentlemen. Yeah there was definitely a blue, circular logo on the front of the plane towards the front. It definitely did not look like a commercial plane. I did not see any windows on the side. It was definitely very low... "Mark, if what you say is true, those could be cargo planes or something like that. You said you did not see any windows on the side?" Mark Burnback: "I did not see any windows on the side. I saw the plane was flying low. I was probably a block away from the sub-way in Brooklyn and that plane came down very low, and again it was not a normal flight that I have ever seen at an airport. It was a plane with a blue logo on the front and it just looked like it did not belong in this area." https://youtube.com/watch?v=lYUs9u1YwV0 |
911conspiracy.tv - 2nd WTC Attack Plane Crash Videos
The drone circled the building just as many witnesses had stated and that is corroborated by 4 live broadcasts showing the drone do just that from the north view. It's logical with so much footage being released that something from the south would show the bogey's goofy bee-bop behind the towers. We don't get the drone here but a fake plane exacting it as it circled the Towers. It is most logical that Manos Megagiannis turned his footage over to law enforcement and got it back this way. This man clearly captured the drone coming from over west (left of screen) before circling the buildings which is exactly why that whole part was edited out by starting the fake plane just as it passes east of Tower 1. http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/a...GIFSoupcom.gif http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/a...Gifs/wtc07.jpg http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/a...GIFSoupcom.gif 41. Here is the story behind my videos: The distance is about 6 miles, (according to Google Earth), recorded using a Sony PC1. After I got a call from a friend of mine about the first plane, I started filming from inside my apartment. To get a bit better view I went to the roof of the building, and the moment I pointed the camera to the WTC and started recording, without even realizing it I captured the second plane hitting the tower. Actually if you see the original tape you will notice that I move the camera so I can confirm with my own eyes the explosion that I saw through the viewfinder. The rest is just very basic digital zoom (very amateurish I admit). The woman's voice, was some tenant in the same building. The videos have NOT being edited to make the plane disappear or anything like that (as some claim). One of these days, if I find some free time I may go back to the master and re-master the video. https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZG25M...ure=plpp_video |
Flight 175, officially and logically had to come from behind/south of the towers. No exceptions, no other possibilities. Over two minutes elapsed before the orb dropped from the west. They were 5 miles north of the towers and the plane never showed up, but a small, very slow moving object did. The orb circled the towers exactly the way the fake plane image did from the south view.
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