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Amputate Your Head 09-12-2010 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by The Trash Heap (Post 17495040)
I can't understand how people expect a building to come down other than well, coming down, collapsing on it's on weight. What else is it supposed to do?

i'm certain there are many things you do not understand.

The Trash Heap 09-12-2010 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17495050)
i'm certain there are many things you do not understand.

Says the idiot who's brain has been permantly damaged by alcohol and meds. And you weren't born exactly smart to start with it.

So tell me, there were no planes?

The Trash Heap 09-12-2010 10:04 AM

Amputate your head. One of the biggest idiots ever on gfy. A tiny weird looking asshat with a funny voice who spent half his life talking nonsense because he was drunk 24/7. A total fucking loser from the day his mom shat him out. I would feel sorry for you and your shitty life if you wouldn't be such an asshole.

The Trash Heap 09-12-2010 10:12 AM

What's the problem midget? Can't answer a simply question? Are you afraid to say it out loud that there were no planes because people will think you're an even bigger moron than they already thought you are?

Amputate Your Head 09-12-2010 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by The Trash Heap (Post 17495057)
Says the idiot who's brain has been permantly damaged by alcohol and meds. And you weren't born exactly smart to start with it.

So tell me, there were no planes?

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Originally Posted by The Trash Heap (Post 17495064)
Amputate your head. One of the biggest idiots ever on gfy. A tiny weird looking asshat with a funny voice who spent half his life talking nonsense because he was drunk 24/7. A total fucking loser from the day his mom shat him out. I would feel sorry for you and your shitty life if you wouldn't be such an asshole.

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Originally Posted by The Trash Heap (Post 17495081)
What's the problem midget? Can't answer a simply question? Are you afraid to say it out loud that there were no planes because people will think you're an even bigger moron than they already thought you are?

http://brokenzombie.com/junk_bin/gfy...d_commando.jpg

:1orglaugh

The Trash Heap 09-12-2010 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17495119)

So tell me, are you saying there were no planes?

Amputate Your Head 09-12-2010 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by The Trash Heap (Post 17495133)
So tell me, are you saying there were no planes?

lol, fuck off douche. i don't owe you jack. :1orglaugh

The Trash Heap 09-12-2010 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17495136)
lol, fuck off douche. i don't owe you jack. :1orglaugh

Ok, it's clear. You're afraid to say it because even you realize how retarded it sounds.

MaDalton 09-12-2010 10:50 AM

jeez - even a former al quaida guy says that he warned bin laden to do this operation and that it will only make the usa mad.

http://afpak.foreignpolicy.com/posts...sama_bin_laden

The Trash Heap 09-12-2010 10:51 AM

I think it's safe to say that Amp is still totally fucked in his head. And that will probably never change.

Sausage 09-12-2010 10:57 AM

Wow ... retards unite!

You believe that 9/11 was an inside job because of some videos you saw on the internet. The net is a wonderful resource, but it sure has helped dumb down a significant segment of the population.

Lemme guess .. most of you easily led idiots think the moon landing was fake, the holocaust? Hell I bet if a good enough video was put together you would start to question whether world war 1 and 2 happened.

opflix 09-12-2010 11:02 AM

people who believe everything they see/read, will always be that way, there's no helping (unplugging) them. most people who don't consider the POSSIBILITY that it was an inside operation are not interested in actually finding truth. perception is reality for 99% of the human population and if you're in the 1%, you're free and to me... nothing is more valuable.

MediaGuy 09-12-2010 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17494869)
are you fucking kidding me?

There was no need to investigate how the buildings fell. It was captured on video what happened, a plane flew into the building, took out several floors, building caught fire then collapsed couple hours later . What the fuck is there to investigate ?

Why?? it didn't fall the way you conspiracy idiots thought it should fall? How many times has a plane crashed into a building and you watched it fall? how the fuck do you know how its suppose to fall ??

What is more logical, the govt did piss poor job protecting us, it really was terrorist who really do hate us and wanted to try to kill us, that when the plane crashed into the building it took out a lot of the supporting structure, weakening it, then the intense fire was enough to cause it to collapse... or

it was all planned, they had explosives planted in the building and controlled the planes.

If this was planned why in the hell would they blow up the buildings, you don't think crashing two planes into them wouldn't have been enough. Why didn't they blow up the pentagon too ? It would have still killed 100s if not thousands of people even if the building didn't fall. It would still have gotten 100% of the country behind whatever Bush wanted to do...

It is fine to question govt but at some point if your common sense gets over powered by your retard side, you need to stop and get your head on straight and look at this shit logically and not get caught up with all the other crazies.

Regardless of how you personally feel about the "need" to investigate 9/11, any and all such disasters are usually treated as a crime scene and investigated thoroughly. But 9/11 was not. Why not?

You say it's somehow logical that after a plane hit one of the towers, it collapses. But not according to WTC architect and construction manager Frank De Martini: http://www.historycommons.org/entity...k_de_martini_1

The "collapse" wasn't hours later - it was an hour later. No way that was long enough even in a furnace that the steel could soften/melt/weaken so much top to bottom that the building would fall the way it did.

The way it was "supposed" to fall would be according to the laws of physics not the way some conspiracy nuts would think it "should" - and it did not follow the laws of physics.

If you want to look at this shit logically, then look at all the shit, not just what the Keane commission says, if you read it - since it doesn't actually report many facts...


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Originally Posted by The Trash Heap (Post 17495081)
What's the problem midget? Can't answer a simply question? Are you afraid to say it out loud that there were no planes because people will think you're an even bigger moron than they already thought you are?

It can't be there were no planes, they were recorded by too many sources. Of course there were planes...


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Originally Posted by Sausage (Post 17495200)
Wow ... retards unite!

You believe that 9/11 was an inside job because of some videos you saw on the internet. The net is a wonderful resource, but it sure has helped dumb down a significant segment of the population.

Lemme guess .. most of you easily led idiots think the moon landing was fake, the holocaust? Hell I bet if a good enough video was put together you would start to question whether world war 1 and 2 happened.

No not just because of some videos. There's a hell of a lot more information out there than that, and much more of it contradicts the government version than any other conspiracy theory.

Your jumbling together the moon landing and holocaust nuts with 9/11 doubters shows how much the government and mainstream media have blocked your capacity to think independently.


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Originally Posted by opflix (Post 17495215)
people who believe everything they see/read, will always be that way, there's no helping (unplugging) them. most people who don't consider the POSSIBILITY that it was an inside operation are not interested in actually finding truth. perception is reality for 99% of the human population and if you're in the 1%, you're free and to me... nothing is more valuable.

And it seems that people will believe whatever they want to believe. Even if the government itself came out with a report saying it was an inside conspiracy instead of an outside conspiracy, like they already did with the Warren commission vs. the House Select Committee on Assassinations about the JFK assassination, people would just not pay attention.

Pretty sad.

:D

Amputate Your Head 09-12-2010 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by The Trash Heap (Post 17495184)
I think it's safe to say that Amp is still totally fucked in his head. And that will probably never change.

http://brokenzombie.com/junk_bin/gfy/expendability.jpg

Martin 09-12-2010 03:30 PM

This doc will lay it all out for you.

Enjoy,

PornoStar69 09-12-2010 03:39 PM

Hey BOTS try and take apart False Flag Terrorism aka Operation Northwoods

PornoStar69 09-12-2010 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by iMind (Post 17492633)
Dude, you wanna know why anyone that questions the original story is considered bat shit crazy ?

It's cause of sensationalistic retards like you.

Stop listening to Alex jones, and get real.

I question the story, like many others, but EVERY time you post, I think you're a fuckin idiot.

Alex Jones = illuminati agent
David Icke = illuminati agent

directfiesta 09-12-2010 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dejan (Post 17494854)
i don't remember did they found black boxes but i remember they found hijackers passports... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh sorry can't find the article google it...

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but the fbi states, and also reported to the 9-11 commission, that none of the recording devices from the two planes that hit the world trade center were ever recovered.

There has always been some skepticism about this assertion, particularly as two n.y. City firefighters, mike bellone and nicholas de masi, claimed in 2004 that they had found three of the four boxes, and that federal agents took them and told the two men not to mention having found them. (the fbi denies the whole story.) moreover, these devices are almost always located after crashes, even if not in useable condition
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for its part, the fbi is still denying everything, though with curious bit of linguistic wiggle room. "to the best of my knowledge, the flight recording devices from the world trade center crashes were never recovered. At least we never had them," says fbi spokesman stephen kodak.

87654321

GotGauge 09-12-2010 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17494940)
1. planes don't "vaporize".
2. no investigation required for the mass murder of thousands of people? okay champ.

I think they do Vaporize
https://youtube.com/watch?v=wVyH40iz6PQ
Now I know the plane that hit the WTC was not going that fast, BUT
You have to add in all the force and energy that was created during the collapse.
things were reduced to dust!

Anyway, the one I am not sure about it the pentagon....

wehateporn 09-12-2010 04:18 PM

And the Swine Flu Vaccine was really to reduce future fertility rates by damaging the developing ovaries in young girls
http://www.knowthelies.com/?q=node/4863

The Trash Heap 09-12-2010 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17494940)
1. planes don't "vaporize".

https://youtube.com/watch?v=wVyH40iz6PQ

Damn, you just got owned. You fucking know it all idiot.

Amputate Your Head 09-12-2010 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by GotGauge (Post 17495910)
I think they do Vaporize
https://youtube.com/watch?v=wVyH40iz6PQ
Now I know the plane that hit the WTC was not going that fast, BUT
You have to add in all the force and energy that was created during the collapse.
things were reduced to dust!

Anyway, the one I am not sure about it the pentagon....

1. there is debris flying all over the place in that video. those are called "pieces". where are the pieces from 9/11?

2. that was a test plane, not a commercial jet.

3. what about the one in PA that supposedly just crashed into an empty field and.... also "vaporized"? not one body? not one flaming seat cushion?

not a single piece out of 4 planes? please.

and....

4.
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things were reduced to dust!
how does one of the "terrorist's" passport end up on the street, unscathed?

Amputate Your Head 09-12-2010 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by The Trash Heap (Post 17496049)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=wVyH40iz6PQ

Damn, you just got owned. You fucking know it all idiot.

http://brokenzombie.com/junk_bin/gfy/awesome001.jpg

Amputate Your Head 09-12-2010 06:42 PM

http://brokenzombie.com/junk_bin/gfy/flag_burning.jpg

will76 09-12-2010 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17495014)
none of that negates the fact that entire commercial airplanes do not "vaporize".

where are they? not a single piece? 4 planes and not...... one....... piece?

lol so what are you saying, something else hit the world trade center ? Since you can't find a piece of it, then it wasn't a plane? Then what hit the world trade center? was it all hollywood video and no plane hit it, but instead a planted explosion, jesus christ man is that what you really think ? All of those live broadcasts showing the second plane hitting the world trade center wasn't real ?

wow

will76 09-12-2010 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17496185)
1. there is debris flying all over the place in that video. those are called "pieces". where are the pieces from 9/11?

2. that was a test plane, not a commercial jet.

3. what about the one in PA that supposedly just crashed into an empty field and.... also "vaporized"? not one body? not one flaming seat cushion?

not a single piece out of 4 planes? please.

and....

4. how does one of the "terrorist's" passport end up on the street, unscathed?

so what hit the trade center then ?

will76 09-12-2010 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by The Trash Heap (Post 17495040)
I can't understand how people expect a building to come down other than well, coming down, collapsing on it's on weight. What else is it supposed to do?

it was suppose to fall over like a tree because some lunatic part time engineer that is a conspiracy theorist said it should have fallen a different way then it did, so the idiots of the world believe what he says as gospel.

Note to US govt next time you try to blow up buildings in the US and kill thousands of citizens just plant explosives on 3 sides. You guys did too good of a job and blow all 4 corners at the same time and made the building fall straight down!! you dummies everyone knows that buildings don't fall that way now you have been busted. Don't forget next time blow 3 corners so it falls with a little lean.... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:upsidedow:warning:u psidedow:warning:upsidedow

the indigo 09-12-2010 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17495008)
don't be a fucking total moron, mm'kay? you can be a partial one if you want. I never said they shouldn't do an investigation into 911. I said there was no need to investigate what happened to the buildings. Sure they should investigate 911 so we can beef up our security and not allow terrorist to hijack planes and fly them into buildings again.

Uhhh, they did.

http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/files/sept11report.jpg

Rochard 09-12-2010 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MediaGuy (Post 17494564)
The pancaking seems ridiculous - it would have taken 10 times longer for one of the towers to fall and there would have been toppling or non-symmetrical events, but there weren't. Two differently damaged buildings fell exactly the same way - makes no sense, just on the basis of probability, disregarding the fact that fire doesn't bring down steel buildings.

Then there's building seven, which could win awards if there were such a thing for perfect, seamless demolition job.

:D

Your calling it "Two differently damaged buildings". Seems to me like two buildings both got hit by airplanes, it's infrastructure pretty much destroyed, and they fell the way all buildings fall. They don't tip over, but instead crashed down on itself because there was nothing to support the upper floors.

As for your comment about "fire bringing down the buildings", there's two points here. First off, this wasn't your typical fire. Your typical house fire or office building fire doesn't involve tons of jet fuel. So this was a bit more than a "fire". At the same time, no one claimed that fire brought down anything. The towers were nearly sliced in half - and the fire help to bring down the rest.

And building 7... I'm so tired of this. Everyone acts like "nothing happened to building 7" but that's as far from the truth as you can get. It suffered two earthquakes from when the other towers fell, then all of the debris pretty much landed at the base of WTC7. This "debris" - which isn't a good term to call billions of tons of concrete - took out nearly a quarter of the base of WTC7.

Rochard 09-12-2010 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaeger (Post 17494783)
how come they didn't find any of the black boxes? i mean shit they are almost indestructable... this for me is the most curious, honestly im not sure if it was a conspiracy but i think it could have been there is a lot of dubiousness surrounding it....

You know I've all both side of this discussion - meaning books - and this is the only thing that raises any doubt in my mind.

will76 09-12-2010 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Sausage (Post 17495200)
Wow ... retards unite!

You believe that 9/11 was an inside job because of some videos you saw on the internet. The net is a wonderful resource, but it sure has helped dumb down a significant segment of the population.

Lemme guess .. most of you easily led idiots think the moon landing was fake, the holocaust? Hell I bet if a good enough video was put together you would start to question whether world war 1 and 2 happened.

yeap, and I bet they probably believe in crop circles though... :1orglaugh


How can someone be so stupid???? its like the anti establishment, anti social, no life, easily gullible type that obviously doesn't have common sense and believes non sense all group together to try to "figure out" what happened on their own because in some twisted way they think we are the idiots in the dark and the are the smart ones!!!!! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

the indigo 09-12-2010 08:01 PM

Obviously, people here have no history and political knownledge.

Vietnam, Operation Northwoods, Chili 1973, Iran-Contra, Bosnia, Operation paperclip, etc.

On the technical side; http://patriotsquestion911.com/

220+ Senior Military, Intelligence Service, Law Enforcement, and Government Officials
400+ Medical Professionals
1,200+ Engineers and Architects
250+ Pilots and Aviation Professionals
400+ Professors Question 9/11
300+ 9/11 Survivors and Family Members
200+ Artists, Entertainers, and Media Professionals

You don't even have to waste your time on the technical side of 9/11 to understand
why it was required, if you are not lazy and study for 2-3 weeks how this world works.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=iRh5qy09nNw

https://youtube.com/watch?v=bBlOX3PaVKs

Leemings.

will76 09-12-2010 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by the indigo (Post 17496326)

never said they didn't/

will76 09-12-2010 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by the indigo (Post 17496339)
Obviously, people here have no history and political knownledge.

Vietnam, Operation Northwoods, Chili 1973, Iran-Contra, Bosnia, Operation paperclip, etc.

On the technical side; http://patriotsquestion911.com/

220+ Senior Military, Intelligence Service, Law Enforcement, and Government Officials
400+ Medical Professionals
1,200+ Engineers and Architects
250+ Pilots and Aviation Professionals
400+ Professors Question 9/11
300+ 9/11 Survivors and Family Members
200+ Artists, Entertainers, and Media Professionals

You don't even have to waste your time on the technical side of 9/11 to understand
why it was required, if you are not lazy and study for 2-3 weeks how this world works.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=iRh5qy09nNw

https://youtube.com/watch?v=bBlOX3PaVKs

Leemings.

yeah the "technical side" is over rated :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh like the plane hit the trade center, lets ignore stuff like that and focus on " but they didn't find any pieces of the plane"

What the fuck does Vietnam have to do with 911... i love how you explained nothing and I still can't tell for sure if you are a lunatic conspiracy theorist that thought 911 was factual or a "false flag" :1orglaugh

will76 09-12-2010 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17496215)

no you not biased... :helpme

you should go down to mexico to live... see what it is like to live in another country, you will like it down there you get that great cheap dental all day long. :1orglaugh

Rochard 09-12-2010 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MediaGuy (Post 17494865)
I don't remember saying it was "only on fire".

You said exactlyi "9/11 proved three times that all it takes is a fire...". Your saying that fire took down these buildings yet seem to recall something about airplanes....

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Originally Posted by MediaGuy (Post 17494865)
One quarter of it's base? Source me on that, 'cause I haven't found that. A chunk was taken out but why did the bldg go down vertically instead of back toward the path of least resistance?

There's no evidence of WTC7 being "removed off of it's foundation" that I've seen.

Other, closer buildings were severely and more seriously damaged, and on fire, and didn't collapse, either perfectly vertically or asymetrically, which is more probable with the sort of scenario you suggest.

Well if you haven't read heard or seen that a quarter of WTC7 was torn out by debris, you didn't look. At all. All you've read is your side saying "Nothing happen to WTC7 other than a fire" and your ignoring the rest.

Start with wikipedia:

http://content.screencast.com/users/...09-12_1959.png

The brown area is the section that was hit by "debris". Again, debris is a bad term to use here because we are talking in terms of tons of steel and concrete and what not.

As for the other buildings, well, three out of ten buildings fell. Some buildings fell, some didn't. Why is it that in 1989 during the big San Fran earthquake the Bay Bridge fell, but the Golden Gate bridge didn't? They were buildings, and built differently. Some of the fell, some of didn't.

the indigo 09-12-2010 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17496344)
yeah the "technical side" is over rated :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh like the plane hit the trade center, lets ignore stuff like that and focus on " but they didn't find any pieces of the plane"

What the fuck does Vietnam have to do with 911... i love how you explained nothing and I still can't tell for sure if you are a lunatic conspiracy theorist that thought 911 was factual or a "false flag" :1orglaugh

You are just another sheep, too lazy to document yourself.

Why should I write anything when you obviously did not even took a few hours to read the links posted one minute ago. I prefer to have less posts on GFY and be more educated than you.

Rochard 09-12-2010 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17494940)
1. planes don't "vaporize".
2. no investigation required for the mass murder of thousands of people? okay champ.

Planes don't vaporize? Why not? When they run into steel and concrete at 500 miles and then get buried in a million tons of concrete and steel, yeah, they do. You accept a plane crash as when a plane hits the ground - and even then there is little left.

As for your comment about an investigation, well, we had one, and it produced a library of facts detailed everything that happened yet STILL people refuse to accept the truth. I read it and still have it downstairs - Did you read it?

elitelist 09-12-2010 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17494669)
thanks :)

no, no sarcasm, i believe it was a false flag. a poorly concealed one.



except i was never a full-fledged lunatic, was just driven by demons, consumed with money, and soaked in tequila. i am none of those things any more.

nobody can "make me snap" any more for any reason. it only happened in the past because i was drunk 24/7 and ruled by emotion. the worst possible thing you could do to me on a messageboard would be to attack my family, which of course violates the rules, so no need for snapping, it's a bannable offense. Anything short of that, is just.... whatever. :)




you're spot on.

it took a few years, but i'm pill free and booze free. it was only in March that i started smoking ganja regularly again (after 26 years of abstinence from it).... and that was the clincher. After that, i haven't even thought about booze any more. My proverbial shit is together and my proverbial act is cleaned up. I'm as "screwed on tight" as I can possibly be. :rasta

You are also a criminal for it and thus why you are right.

kazbalah 09-12-2010 08:17 PM

Can i ask - the people here saying all this crap - how many documentaries and books have you read on the subject?


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