It cracks me up when silly liar nut balls DO NOT use video and photo evidence to try to back up their loony government conspiracy theories, because that very same material shows very obvious proof the official story is bunk.:thumbsup

No, there was always clear evidence that an orb showed up in three live broadcasts. Documented evidence. Ignored evidence. You are not challenging that, which you have the right to ignore, but by doing so, the burden of proof is on you to prove otherwise, that an orb could be a plane, when it was obviously much smaller than a chopper. You haven't done that. Nobody will ever do that because a lie cannot be proven.

So with zero evidence or documentation how would you expect anyone to think what you are saying isn't gibberish?:winkwink:

Where would they go then!! Straight up??

Jesus christ! Can one of you nutters just tell me where that fucking building is supposed to go when it collapses? Is it that fucking difficult to answer?

It was an UFO, i pulled it straight out of my ass.

You are insane. I don't have another explanation for it. Just 100% insane. Fucked in your head. Mentally fucking ill. Beyond help most likely.

On ignore you go, together with your nutjob buddy Johnny. Fucking freaks.

Good old, Rochard. A gfy vet, denying reality about 911 myths.:( You posted the best fake image that 911 fakery produced, but, the right engine is still too close to the fuselage much like the one I posted previous, that you ignored. It has no markings, is black with no windows, therefore, it's fake, and would be laughed by open minded humans being told the truth about how they were fucked by the media and government on 911.

Here's the worst fake plane image I've come across. It was labeled techmac and has no right wing and it convienenty crops out the impossible turn and zooms out after that impossibility. See, the fake image is too far north, to actually impact the southeast corner of T2 because it's south and east of T1.:thumbsup

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/a...GIFSoupcom.gif

You are such a dumbass that you don't the know when to use a instead of an.:1orglaugh

Go ahead and put me on ignore, ya pussy.:1orglaugh

:1orglaugh That's not dirty frank, correct? That is some schmuck who bought his name?

Why would people from Europe be obsessed with silly govenrment coverups from the states?:1orglaugh More importantly, why would silly americans defend 911 fiction when that fiction covers them completely? That's the saddest part...politically correct pornographers.:1orglaugh

I told the truth and you don't have another explanation for it. Just 100% truth.:thumbsup

You're a lunatic plain and simple. You can deny that. Your obvious refusal in accepting fact-based reality cements that fact. The truth can easily mock lying lunatics like yourself. Feel free to believe whatever you want and I'll remain comfortable knowing that people like you will never have any influence on anything anywhere.:1orglaugh

http://i40.tinypic.com/wbvqzo.jpg

Look at the imbeciles jerking eachother off :1orglaugh

You two Einsteins do realize that English isn't Frank's first language, right? How many languages do you speak fluently? That's what I thought.

:1orglaugh

She described the drone as a possible police chopper, meaning that she could not identify as such, because it wasn't. She was forced to call it something that it could be never be or else her career in news reporting would have ceased in those live, on-air moments. These silly women proved how absolutely how ignorant and laughable humanity is and probably always has been, but, the info age leaves no doubt it. There were NO choppers seen before the drone appeared and only one after the explosion, flying east.

"We just saw another live picture of, duhhh, what I believe, duhhh, was a plane that just hit another plane?":1orglaugh So, it went from an unidentifiable chopper, to, duh, what she knew had to be a plane, because that's what was supposed to happen, but didn't, unless there were two things involved for tower 2?:helpme

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Obt-1...e= plpp_video

And you're giving Frank a hard time about his English? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I do like my commas and wonder if I use them properly.:1orglaugh

So what really happened? Was it a controlled demolition or did "orbs" fly into the buildings? If it was done by the government, what was the motive? To invade Iraq? Everybody has all this "evidence" of a government conspiracy, but none of it leads to a conclusion. kind of like the Kennedy assassination.

Surely one of the 100's of government and military personnel it would have taken to pull something like this off would have leaked evidence or come forward in some way. Not to mention all these radio and TV executives and reporters that were supposedly ordered to go along with the cover-up, right? Maybe Wikileaks cables or anonymous hackers will uncover the truth soon?

Read:
Key words: "straight" down? Vertical "descents"? "Asymmetry"?

In other words, maybe one of the only three buildings ever to collapse from fire in the history of steel skyscraper construction could go straight down like a demolition against all odds. But three? Impossible.

If such collapses were possible - they would go down non-symmetrically, topple, crash sideways, tilt... not drop straight down.

IF pancaking weren't already discounted, by NIST most notably, then they shouldn't have crumbled completely down to their base - they would have stopped at some point and left a huge stack of concrete floors, not pulverized dust and match-stick piles of steel beams.

:D

I, simply pointed out that media wackos were forced to call an orb 'the plane'. That simple fact, raises reasonable doubt about the official 911 myth. Controlled demo is far more complicated and has plenty of room for debate and spin. The weird object is the just that, a weird orb with no wings or propeller.

good point. some minor diplomatic brouhaha can't be concealed nowadays, but there is not one hint of a conspiracy that needed the coordinated efforts of hundreds if not thousands from all sectors of society in the data dumps and leaks.

to believe in 9/11 conspiracies in this day and age is about the same as believing in the easter bunny or jesus.

Controlled Demolition

The Globalist Bankers and their Shadow Government. It was to commence The War on Terror i.e. a war on the Middle East and on the rights and freedom of Westerners

This is a thread that's just debating the basics as to if the official story is true or not, the conclusion is actually very complex and would require much reading, but not in threads like this. Kennedy was about to get rid of the Federal Reserve and he was keen to stop Israel's nuclear program; Hollywood deliberately try to confuse people.

The Shadow Government are not as careless as our own governments. The Bankers who they work for are ruthless. Every now and then there's a weak link, like when Nick Rockefeller told Aaron Russo (RIP) about 9/11 and the Globalist Agenda.

Rockefeller Reveals 9/11 FRAUD to Aaron Russo

There are certain laws that come in to effect during 'attacks' like 9/11. It can be difficult to report what you actually believe.


Wikileaks is actually a tentacle of the House of Rothschild (via their agent Soros), it's their tool for taking out powerful people who they don't have full control of.

^^^:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orgla ugh:1orglaughHoly shit, dude, you're fucking insane!

it's an intellectual dead end. look at the people who obsess about this stuff. you would progress your intellectual development more studying phrenology instead.

Anything is possible. It's not like I wasn't in the military.

Media Guy and I debate on the boards about this, and we both believe what we believe, but secretly we still chat on ICQ and I still consider him a friend.

The towers fell because the floors pancaked onto each other. The floors fell down; The floors didn't tip over. The building collapsed into itself.

Your asking the right questions...

1) Why? No one can give me a good reason. There's no fucking oil in Afghanistan, and the potential pipeline they talk about STILL hasn't been built. No one wanted to invade Afghanistan.

2) Where are the people that did this? Somewhere along the line if the planes were controlled by remote control and the towers taken down by demolition, there would have to be dozens involved. Let's just say the planes were remotely controlled - Are you saying the plane took off with no pilots? Who flew the planes by remote control? Who installed that hardware? Who wired up the towers with explosives? That must have been a massive job that would have taken weeks and attracted a lot notice... One would think that just ONE of these people would come forward and be a national hero for the rest of his life.

impossible to debate any of these types. if you counteract any of their claims with an explanation, they don't acknowledge it but just move on to half a dozen other unrelated "anomalies." that is their method of argumentation as witnessed in this thread.

of course you can't also debate with someone who is suffering from visual schizophrenic hallucinations. as seeing what is clearly a plane as something other.

A group of people attached bombs to every floor of a huge, crowded building. A huge fucking plane flew into the tower. Damaged i don't know how much floors. BUT didn't damage the bombs, not the wires connecting them all together. And then from somewhere outside someone was able to let the first bomb explode directly beneath the floor where the plane entered.
Yes, that makes so much sense. That must be the solution. Because that is way more likely than a building collapsing because of massive damage.


The fantasyworld of the average conspiracy nut.

The most insane, ridiculous, near impossible things are the most likely in their fucked up little fantasy world.
And a huge plane that takes down a building because of massive damage and fire, that's impossible according to them.

The stupidity...it's just neverending

Ors, ufo's, remote controled planes, missiles, 1000's of people involved, the media involved etc etc. It is no problem whatsoever to the truther. Think of the most ridiculous conspiracy and the truther will call it plausible. But a bunch of jihadmuslims hijacking a plane and flying it into a tower which results in a collapse of that tower. No, that's impossible. That is 100% impossible to these people.

Ironically, due to the war, companies that were supposed to build oil and gas pipelines through the region gave up on the idea. I guess the conspiracy isn't working out as planned.

"In 2010, US and Afghan government officials estimated that untapped mineral deposits located in 2007 by the US Geological Survey are worth between $900 bn and $3 trillion"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghanistan

It also makes attacking Iran a lot easier

Please don't entertain morons like johnny and wehateporn anymore. It's really just a huge waste of your time and can do nothing but drag you down to their level.

Like most of us, I don't know one way or the other what REALLY happened, or more importantly, WHY, but just for shits and giggles, what can an organized group of people do for just a mere 4.6 BILLION DOLLAR$?

I've heard of plenty of stories about people who intentionally torch their own properties, cars, or businesses just to get out from under the debt, or more nefariously, to profit from insurance fraud. Sometimes an innocent person or two may die in such a plot, but they happen every single day.

Now let's pretend you stand to get out from under a bad investment PLUS pocket $4.6 BILLION in insurance money - what do you consider "impossible" ?

4.6 BILLION DOLLARS - $4,600,000,000.00

That's one big fucking lottery payout. This guy must be the luckiest man on Earth...

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHART...lverstein.html

yeah it's totally impossible to believe that someone would insure a massive real estate investment. a total smoking gun right there.

It's impossible for you to debate against facts, so you ignore them. You can't counteract any of your claims with evidence because you have only fake evidence. You don't acknowledge facts, but move on to a half dozen things that have nothing to do with those facts that you must dodge." That is your method of argumentation as witnessed in this thread.

Of course you can't debate because you are suffering from visual schizophrenic hallucinations. As is proven by your inability to prove that an orb is anything other than an orb.:1orglaugh

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/a...GIFSoupcom.gif

so you try and counteract me with a gif of what is clearly a plane, that anyone who is not mentally ill will see as a plane.

discussing anything with you is as logical as debating string theory with a retard eating ice cream and wetting his pants in the middle of the food court.