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chase 01-30-2006 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Lord Nelson

Fatties don't have any notable muscles. Where would they get it from if they sit on their asses the whole time.

Wow, funny how you went from being over-detailed to try to prove someone wrong to being over-general to prove someone else wrong. You aren't anal, you are just a manipulator..you manipulate facts into whatever will support your arguement.

I'm a fat girl, and I invite you to ask practically anyone who met me at either show I've been to if I have no muscle. In fact, some of my own BBW niche fans don't like me because I am TOO firm, and I know for sure that isn't not that my bones are that damn big...it's a thick layer of muscle underneath a thick layer of fat.

Mike from CashLikeWhoa, which is an ass based program, touched my ass. Ask him if it's got "virtually no muscle" and he'll laugh you out of town, lol.

chase 01-30-2006 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Lord Nelson
This is so unbelievably rare that you've probably only seen a handful of heffers who are medically fat. All the rest are pigs.

The buttom line is: no one is born to be super sized. If each one of these cows decided to eat sensible and healthy and actually exercise they wouldnt be obese. Plain and simple. No excuses.

It is also funny how when countries set up gulags or concentration camps, or go into a long drought, none of these "genetically fat people" seem to exist.

No one is saying the majority have heath reasons that make them fat, genious. And yeah, I'm sure concentration camp people are waaaaaay healthier then fat people who get their nutritional needs met. *eyes rolling*

Abithefiend 01-30-2006 07:56 AM

Those who choose to eat tons of crap and put on weight, well at the end of the day that's their choice. Those who choose to eat healthily and exercise that's their choice. As you get older your metabolism does slow down...when I was in my early twenties i could eat anything and not gain an ounce of weight. Now I'm 33 I have to work at keeping a trim figure. I do it because it's my personal choice to do so. But even the percentage of people who are obese through medication or through a very slow metabolism, well I just don't think it's fair for you to judge them and insult them when the reason may not be their fault. I agree that the majority of large people is as a result of what they put into their bodies and their day to day activity. But it's certainly not the case for all.
My friend is skinny as hell and she eats all sorts of fattening foods. I have to watch what I eat. If I put on a few pounds over Christmas then I will diet and exercise to lose it again. But I do think you're being very black and white about this and not looking into the individual's circumstances. I just hope for your sake that your future wife or girlfriend won't mind if you go bald or if you have to take a medication that makes you put on weight no matter how little you eat.

Peaches 01-30-2006 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Michaelious
Aah the usual debate about this crap. Most fat people are fat due to their lifestyle not their physiology or geneology, very few are overweight or obese due top medical factors.

Just so you realise i am a honours in immunology and microbiology, and three years of which included general biology e.g. physiology.

Then I'm sure you studied identical twins. Identical twins almost always weigh within 5-10 pounds of each other from birth through adulthood. Even identical twins who were separated at birth are still approx. the exact same weight/body fat percentage/etc. as each other. Doubtful they spent every minute of every day eating and exercising the exact same...........

I'm fat because I come from a very "stocky" family. We're all incredibly healthy - my grandparents lived into their late 80's with no health problems and my parents who are both almost 70 are healthy. But we have to excericse A LOT because we have low metabolism. Unfortunately, I'm one who doesn't excercise a lot :(

Lord Nelson 01-30-2006 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Peaches
I'm fat because I come from a very "stocky" family.

:1orglaugh

I will tell you exacty what your problem with weight is: Your own defeatist whiny attitude.

There's nothing wrong with you, go take a jog you lazy fuck.

Lord Nelson 01-30-2006 08:12 AM

Medical fact: If you are overweight your lifestyle* is to blame.

Sear this phrase into your brain "YOUR WEIGHT REFLECTS YOUR LIFESTYLE". Once you grasp that loosing weight is easy. This reflects the fundamental scientific principle of conservation of energy.

*Lifestyle: Relative level of activity vs. nutrient intake.

FSA,
B.Sc.(Eng.),M.Sc.(Eng.), Mb.ChB <- Note

kernelpanic 01-30-2006 08:14 AM

Fact: Lord Nelson is an idiotic troll.

Michaelious 01-30-2006 08:15 AM

At the end of the day, the people who are overweight should stop moaning and do something about it

Lord Nelson 01-30-2006 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by kernelpanic
Fact: Lord Nelson is an idiotic troll.

Fact: kernelpanic is a useless sigwhore who has nothing of value to say. ever.

26MLR 01-30-2006 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Pornwolf
It's a problem. It should be written into all mariage papers that the wife has to keep a certain bodyfat percentage as long as the husband fills his provider duties.

EXACTLY! you can always look for a trade in, though! :thumbsup

Abithefiend 01-30-2006 08:18 AM

And besides, why is this all directed at women? Men can get fat too! Should the wives or girlfriends go and have affairs because their man gets fat? Those men who go out and cheat....how would you feel if the person you fell in love with, trusted and built a life with had an affair behind your back? You say it's a man's thing to be that way but that's an excuse. Being unfaithful is a choice. NOt a need, it's a choice. I choose to be faithful. If I couldn't be faithful I'd stay single so I could go fuck whoever I wanted without anyone getting hurt. But when I'm in a relationship with someone cheating is the last thing on my mind not only because it's just not me to do that but because I have respect for the person I'm with. I don't care if they put on weight or go bald or have an accident and end up in a wheelchair. It's all about COMMITTMENT.
If you can't be faithful don't get married. If you're shallow enough to go cheat because your partner puts on a few pounds then stay single. If you find it fun to go and disrespect your partner by cheating then how the hell can you say you love them? Love should run deeper than just looks...afterall when we are old, grey and wrinkly none of us are gonna be 'sexy'.

Love is about RESPECT. Trouble with some of you guys is you think with your dicks and don't have any consideration for the people you claim to love. You want your cake and eat it. I'd be curious to know how you would handle that being done to you.

chase 01-30-2006 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Michaelious
At the end of the day, the people who are overweight should stop moaning and do something about it

And people who are not fat should stop moaning about those who are, which is how every single one of these fat threads begins.:thumbsup

Lord Nelson 01-30-2006 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by chase
And people who are not fat should stop moaning about those who are:thumbsup

I guess you don't know how it feels when a HUGE STINKY FAT FUCK spills their flab into your airplane seat.

xlogger 01-30-2006 08:28 AM

LOL @ this thread! :1orglaugh

Lord Nelson 01-30-2006 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by chase
And people who are not fat should stop moaning about those who are, which is how every single one of these fat threads begins.:thumbsup

Why would you be so happy to be so fat? It fucking astounds me.


This one time I had to sit between two fat hungarians on a plane. I was so pissed. This huge fat man took the aisle seat and his huge fat wife took the window seat. I couldnt help but wonder what whould've happend if I had been a big fat fuck. There is no way I would've fit. Instead of trying to sit there I flagged the stewardess down and asked to be relocated because I had no room. This was embarassing to the fatties, but fuck them.

chase 01-30-2006 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Lord Nelson
I guess you don't know how it feels when a HUGE STINKY FAT FUCK spills their flab into your airplane seat.

I'm so sure that is infinitely more painful then having to deal with a sour, manipulative, just generally unkind person such as yourself. I'd stand next to twenty stinky bums for hours over having to have a five minute conversation with a jackass like you.:winkwink:

Peaches 01-30-2006 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Lord Nelson
I guess you don't know how it feels when a HUGE STINKY FAT FUCK spills their flab into your airplane seat.

No, I don't - I can afford 1st class :) I guess being fat and old isn't all that bad, lol!!

Lord Nelson 01-30-2006 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by chase
I'm so sure that is infinitely more painful then having to deal with a sour, manipulative, just generally unkind person such as yourself. I'd stand next to twenty stinky bums for hours over having to have a five minute conversation with a jackass like you.:winkwink:

I can't feel sorry for fatties, because I know if they would just stop shoving food in the piehole everything would be normal. "Thyroid" is bullshit. I could fix any of them in less than a year. They may not like it, but they would be fixed.

Lord Nelson 01-30-2006 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Peaches
No, I don't - I can afford 1st class :) I guess being fat and old isn't all that bad, lol!!

good for you, miss piggy

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xlogger 01-30-2006 08:38 AM

Man this thread reminds me of something!

I use to know a fat latina chick in highschool. She always wanted to talk to me but i ignored her because she was a little over weight (well, i was in highschool!). Two years went by and i went to college and she was still in HS. The 3rd year she was in my college and she was the fucking hottest girl in the whole college. She lost all the weight and fucking every guy (including me) was all over her! Man she go so hot it was fucking ridiculous!

kernelpanic 01-30-2006 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Lord Nelson
Fact: kernelpanic is a useless sigwhore who has nothing of value to say. ever.

:1orglaugh

okay champ


:1orglaugh

chase 01-30-2006 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Lord Nelson
Why would you be so happy to be so fat? It fucking astounds me.


This one time I had to sit between two fat hungarians on a plane. I was so pissed. This huge fat man took the aisle seat and his huge fat wife took the window seat. I couldnt help but wonder what whould've happend if I had been a big fat fuck. There is no way I would've fit. Instead of trying to sit there I flagged the stewardess down and asked to be relocated because I had no room. This was embarassing to the fatties, but fuck them.

First off, I don't blame you for moving. That is a reasonable request, and I do understand that situation.

Second, in case you missed it, I AM doing something about my size. And it's NOT by starving myself until I've lost all my muscle mass, and my hair and teeth fall out from lack of nutrients, like you would have people believe is the way, and if you have ever had a weight problem, you would know that...so why not stop acting like the authority on the subject when you have absolutely NO experience with it, while someone like Raven, who HAS, you ignore and argue with like she's an idiot. Only makes you look like a fool.:2 cents:

Thirdly, my body, as it is now, is paying my bills via the small amateur site I have at which hundreds of people have spent their money to see me nude, so obviously not everyone in the world feels the way you do.

It doesn't matter if you understand people's preferences. The fact is they are what they are. It astounds me that a woman would ever want someone with a bad attitude, no matter how good he looks, but the fact is, there are some that do. I don't understand people who get off on seeing others abused, but some people do. We are ALL different and we perceive things differently and we like different things. I am not picking on you for liking thin girls am I? Hell no, that's your choice and I don't give a damn what chick you want to pork.

Not understanding it isn't a good reason to bash it. That is exactly how all forms of intolerance start..racism, sexism, sexuality discrimination..it all stems from not understanding other people and their preferences, background, and culture. This is NO different.

Yeah, you have a right to be annoyed at the fat people who made your plane trip uncomfortable..but do you hate all kids and treat them as sub-human because one of them may have made your plane trip uncomfortable, too, or do you save your hate exclusively for fat folks? If so, it has nothing to do with the discomfort and everything to do with your own hatred for things you don't understand, and I'm sorry, but that is an immature way of handling things.:2 cents:

Oh, and by the way, it wasn't me who squeezed you in the seat. So don't treat me like shit because of something someone else did and expect me to be ok with that.

LadyMischief 01-30-2006 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Lord Nelson
did you even try it? all you can do is sit on your ass, stuffing your mug with fries and whining on boards about having slow metabolism. stupid fucking cunt.


Apparently you have reading problems as well, you stupid moron. I've lost 75 POUNDS, that didn't come from "stuffing my mug with fries and whining on boards". Yahoo.

Pornwolf 01-30-2006 08:53 AM

You have to give all the people on this thread credit for trying! Keep it up you all!

Cassie 01-30-2006 08:54 AM

my step grandmother was 700lbs when she died. she wanted to blame it on an underactive thyroid problem when in all honesty, it was because she ate too much. when she had my aunt (at the time she weighed over 300lbs), she dropped 150 of it to have her.

the medical problems came because of all the weight gain. failing thyroid glands, diabetes, failing eye sight and organ failure. the doctor explained very clearly that about 1-2% of all obesity comes from medical issues. the remaining 98% of obesity comes from people's lack of self control.

LadyMischief 01-30-2006 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassie
my step grandmother was 700lbs when she died. she wanted to blame it on an underactive thyroid problem when in all honesty, it was because she ate too much. when she had my aunt (at the time she weighed over 300lbs), she dropped 150 of it to have her.

the medical problems came because of all the weight gain. failing thyroid glands, diabetes, failing eye sight and organ failure. the doctor explained very clearly that about 1-2% of all obesity comes from medical issues. the remaining 98% of obesity comes from people's lack of self control.


Yeah.. I know my weight gain was primarily because of 9 months of bedrest due to pregnancy, and then another subsequent several months still needing bedrest.. I have a genetic bleeding disorder that caused major problems both during pregnancy and afterwards. I've always been active.. I rode horses for many years, did all types of physical activity including hiking, kickboxing, etc.

A lot of people have eating problems, it's true, but life happens, too :)

Lord Nelson 01-30-2006 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by chase
Second, in case you missed it, I AM doing something about my size. And it's NOT by starving myself until I've lost all my muscle mass, and my hair and teeth fall out from lack of nutrients, like you would have people believe is the way, and if you have ever had a weight problem, you would know that...so why not stop acting like the authority on the subject when you have absolutely NO experience with it, while someone like Raven, who HAS, you ignore and argue with like she's an idiot. Only makes you look like a fool.:2 cents:


My cousin went from 160 pounds to 121 pounds by starving herself.
Never put any weight back on, teeth, skin and hair are beautiful and she looks hotter than ever.

:2 cents:

Peaches 01-30-2006 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Lord Nelson
My cousin went from 160 pounds to 121 pounds by starving herself.
Never put any weight back on, teeth, skin and hair are beautiful and she looks hotter than ever.

:2 cents:

Apparently stupidity runs in the family :)

Lord Nelson 01-30-2006 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassie
Second, in case you missed it, I AM doing something about my size.

the medical problems came because of all the weight gain. failing thyroid glands, diabetes, failing eye sight and organ failure. the doctor explained very clearly that about 1-2% of all obesity comes from medical issues. the remaining 98% of obesity comes from people's lack of self control.

Good thing that you are doing something about it. I never make fun of people who are TRYING.

I'm also glad that you don't buy into all that "fat because of bad genetics or medical condition" bullshit.

Peaches 01-30-2006 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Lord Nelson
Good thing that you are doing something about it. I never make fun of people who are TRYING.

I'm also glad that you don't buy into all that "fat because of bad genetics or medical condition" bullshit.

You just combined quotes from two different posters: Chase and Cassie. You really are one of the smart ones here, aren't you? :helpme

Lord Nelson 01-30-2006 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Peaches
Apparently stupidity runs in the family :)

She is a healthy, unbelievably hot woman and you are a fat, smelly cow.

Who is stupid now? :1orglaugh

Lord Nelson 01-30-2006 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Peaches
You just combined quotes from two different posters: Chase and Cassie. You really are one of the smart ones here, aren't you? :helpme

yeah my bad. their usernames looked similar so i confused them to be the same person.

Peaches 01-30-2006 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Lord Nelson
She is a healthy, unbelievably hot woman and you are a fat, smelly cow.

Who is stupid now? :1orglaugh

I smell yummy and your cousin starved herself. I'd say she's the stupid one now and probably forever :)

You're really not a very good troll - good trolls at least have some intelligence in their button pushing. :disgust

chase 01-30-2006 09:16 AM

I don't think anyone is saying that the majority of obese people are not responsible, at least in part. I believe the arguement is more that saying they all are lazy isn't correct, either. It's like saying all thin people work out and eat healthy. It's true in most cases, but not in all.

Peaches 01-30-2006 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Lord Nelson
yeah my bad. their usernames looked similar so i confused them to be the same person.

It's understandable. You're not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

Lord Nelson 01-30-2006 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Peaches
It's understandable. You're not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

atleast i'm sharp enough not be a 300lb cow.

Raven 01-30-2006 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by bhutocracy
congrats and good luck with the next year... It does feel good to take off a decade of fat in short while.. People say it's faster to put it on than take it off, which is BS unless you eat really badly.. it's just easier and more fun to put it on :)

You're right about that. It only took six months to gain it. Ten years to make a decision. A year to get to goal one. And, another year to get to goal two.

I have an extensive medical background. Metabolism does slow down due to the aging process. It also slows down due to the fact that when we age, we become more sedentary.

So, which one is responsible for getting heavy?

I know I was very active in my twenties. Didn't gain an ounce. When I sat down at this computer, I slowed down. And, I ate badly. So I don't see where my age has as much to do with anything as poor habits.

Lord Nelson 01-30-2006 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Peaches
I smell yummy...

smelling like molded cheese is NOT yummy.

Peaches 01-30-2006 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Lord Nelson
atleast i'm sharp enough not be a 300lb cow.

Are you staying Oprah's an idiot too? And how do we know you're not a 300lb cow? :1orglaugh

chase 01-30-2006 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Lord Nelson
My cousin went from 160 pounds to 121 pounds by starving herself.
Never put any weight back on, teeth, skin and hair are beautiful and she looks hotter than ever.

:2 cents:

Well, hun, eating too little long term is just as much of a health risk as eating too much long term, and I am not willing to put my body into even more shock by stressing it like that after I've already been stressing it by being overweight. If that's what you consider lazy..well, to be truthful, I really don't give a damn, so I think I'm just gonna drop it with you. I will follow a plan I know I can stick with, that will cause a slow loss in size, that will build muscle mass so as the fat melts off, the firm muscle will appear, that will build my stamina and feed my body's nutritional needs, and make me HEATHIER in the end. Because that is my goal..not to be thin. Thin is a nice byproduct of becoming fit and healthy, which is my goal. If you find that stupid, more power to ya. But when I post pics of myself after a 100 pound weight loss, and you are going on about how great I look, you just remember this thread, and tell me I was right.:thumbsup


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