200..........

Erm,my wife's brain will never get fat, so I'll never have to fuck anyone else should she miraculously put on 100lbs.

It's not all about what the dame looks like is what I'm saying.


And Lord Nelson, what the fuck, fat people have their legs amputated at 55? If more than half the american population is considered obese, there would be a lot more wheelchairs rolling down the sidewalk don't you think?

Truth be told, being skinny is unnatural. Your body wants to be fat, it wants to store up in case of a famine, it's been this way for thousands of years.

It's unnatural to have no body fat or for a guy to have six pack abs, that's just the way it is.

Skinny people being attractive is a fairly new thing. It's only happened in the last 100 years or so. For thousands of years it was rubenesque women who could have any man they wanted and the skinny bitches got the leftovers.
Now that we've had 50 years worth of programming from Madison Avenue most people think that "thin is in" but that wasn't always the case.

It's so ridiculous nowadays that if you can see a girls ribs but she has a bubble butt most guys call her fat. Just fucking ridiculous.

As for my personal preference, if you're thinner than a size 16, you're not getting me into the sack.

My metabolism ain't fast lol.. Sure maybe not pregancy hormones slow lol, but I still found it very easy to lose weight... Ok pregnancy is different :) I wasn't really referring to that in the first place.. but for most everyone else, people just need to have the willpower to cut out every shitty bit of food out of their diets permanently and eat properly.
I'd like to see someone get fat eating normal portions of low gi/low carb vegetables (no potato, parsnips eggplants etc) with not a lot of fatty dressings or cheese or whatever and steamed or grilled fish for protein.. A lot of people think they are eating healthy when it's really not the case - even I didn't think i ate THAT badly, especially as a vegetarian, but it certainly was the case...
Even a slow metabolism can only work with what it is given.. you only give it 200 cals and it's only got 200 cal's to work with.. does it suck compared to 18 year olds shovelling shit into their faces while they're still growing unaware of whats going to happen to their bodies in their 20's? yeah.. it's harder.. but not that much harder that it's as big a deal as most people think it is..
I thought it would take me 6 months to lose 20 pound.. purely from the way people talk and the fact i've never tried to lose weight. I dunno.. after i read up on it and did it in a month I had to re-evaluate a lot of things I thought I knew about weightloss coming from other people's reasons/excuses.
You know a lot about that having done 70 of course.. im only up to 30 so far out of maybe 40-50 but it's coming off fast enough I'm not exercising like i was in the first week or two when i thought i had to get on the bike for an hour a day to crack this insurmountable weightloss goal of 20 lbs ;)
My girlfriend is going a little more slowly because she still likes a bit of a snack on chocolate or whatever.

Beeing obese is NOT healty... no matter what the fuck you are gonna say.

Having a couple pounds extra is fine with me . Actually I don't like girls with skin and bones.

But we are gonna have half the americans beeing obese in our generation, and that's wrong...

Skinny maybe.. but normal healthy weight - and by that i mean scientific BMI not the average you see on the street is still a lot skinnier than most people think. I almost pissed myself laughing when the doc said my ideal weight was
147 pounds - I don't think i've been that weight since I was 16 and i thought i'd have to look like an auschwitz survivor to get there at 30ish.. but it's surprising how much we all carry that we don't need. I thought i'd look a hell of a lot more trim after losing 20-30 pound :( lol

This is the plan I'm on now: http://www.bodyforlife.com/ The site isn't near as complete as the book, which I have.

I've tried a lot of different plans, and this one works faster, and yet is still easier for me to stick with then any other. Knowing I can have what I want on my free day keeps me on track the rest of the week, and I am never hungry-I have to force myself to eat most of the time, lol. The recipes given are genuinely good, and I find that I get used to brown and whole wheat over white in no time. I am enjoying cooking again.

As far as exercise goes, again, I start out at a level different from where I will be in six months, so I am not burnt out or frustrated at my lower stamina. And I was surprised to find my body is stronger than I thought, because I could handle the pace and weights I thought I would have to ease into, right from the start. That got me pumped. *grin*

It may be that you are losing muscle mass along with fat. :2 cents:

So, Pornwolf, you wanna buy me some boobies when I hit 150, lol? *batting eyelashes*

Is that what you tell yourself every night before crying yourself to sleep?


Buttom line is:

- if you have a great muscular body with no fat, gorgeous women will line up before you and ask you to have sex with them.

- if you are a fat fuck, the only way for you to get laid by a decent looking woman is to lure them in with money.

Yeah I agree that's not bright at all, especially when they go home they could give deadly diseases to their wives, that's really stupid if you ask me, also could be classified as "attempted murder" and I'm totally serious about that.

Your right, most are men are not smart at all and very shallow :winkwink:

Thinking the same thing :1orglaugh

I can see this thread going on for days. Some interesting views though...it's good to hear everyone's different opinions. I wonder how those habitual male cheaters would feel if their wives or girlfriends were doing the same thing.

And yes, Marilyn Monroe was indeed a size 16...and considered one of the sexiest women of the century...if not THE sexiest. She certainly wasn't skinny. I think being a healthy weight is a good thing but I don't think a husband should cheat if his wife puts on a few pounds and vice versa.
I can understand some guys preferring their woman to be slender and then if she puts on a ton of weight well I can understand some guys having a problem with that...but that doesn't condone cheating. Love is love and a few extra pounds shouldn't change that. If someone is going to cheat, they will cheat anyway and use the weight as an excuse to justify themselves.
Most guys I know are turned off by those waifs on the catwalk that society deems as 'perfection'.
In defence of the larger ladies out there, there are plenty of guys who love them. We are all different, shapes, sizes, looks, colour...that's what makes this an interesting world.

I somehow never expected this thread to get this big ... if it keeps going on like this, it will be like 500 posts by tomorrow

This is false. Everyone's metabolism is different. Just because someone has a slow metabolism doesn't mean they have to eat less than someone with a fast one.

I have a family member with virtually no metabolism. I don't know what the medical condition is called. I weigh 135, eat more than her, and she is 250-275 I'd guess.

It is almost impossible for me to gain weight no matter what I eat. It is the reverse of people who can't lose weight no matter how much they cut back.

One of the websites that I listed earlier actually said that being UNDERweight is just as serious a problem as obesity.

And too, it's about proportion.. Marilyn was hot, bigger, AND proportionate... Being skinny doesn't neccessarily mean being attractive or proportionate.

Oh come on, lol, we all know that fat is a hot topic, lol. Bringing it up is always initiating a debate. What I am really enjoying here is the pure exchange of ideas..much less bashing going on than in most fat threads, and that's why I keep coming back. :thumbsup

Yeah, but for every Marilyn there are hundreds of skinny coke whores.

excellent :) I'll give it a look. Exercise is funny like that.. last time i tried to get fit (but not lose weight just build muscle) I was surprised by how able you get in such a short amount of time - actually i lied when i said i was vego - i get called a vego even though i eat fish occasionally, just not mammals. But even so i found it hard to find cookbooks for vegetarian dieters
so i just followed the basic rules of cals, fat, gi, carbs, portion sizes and eating times.. And because i eat a little different to most people I'm used to a lot of the foods ie whole wheat no refined sugar etc. Although i must say.. it's easy for vego's to eat shit because things like potato's suddenly become such a large part of your diet if you don't care about eating right, only whats tasty.. most vego's i know (well the guys at any rate) don't just eat salads.. it's more along the lines of vege hotdogs (which aren't that bad really depending on brand it's more the bread, butter, cheese etc) and potato bake with extra cream and cheese heheheh.

If your family member with "no metabolism" stops eating for a week i fucking guarantee you that she is going to lose weight.

LOL, I hear ya..I always gained when when I was broke because shitty foods (mostly bad carbs) are CHEAPER!

Lord Nelson you dumb fuck. If someone stops eating for a week, they won't just lose weight, they'll also become horrifically ill.

You're being a prize jack ass for the sake of it.

No, you are the dumb fuck.

In what way will they become ill?

Body will start to recyle all the fucking lard stored and function on it.

seeing someones ribs is too much but what you are saying here, that fat was where it was at isn't quite accurate. women/men who had some extra weight were found attractive because in part at least, they had wealth. it meant they could afford food. i heard something similar with penis size, women used to want men with smaller penis's because to them it meant they were more like to pregnate a woman because the cum has less distance to travel to get out of the guys dick. who really knows tho

as for the whole cheating thing, yeah lots of guys cheat but i think guys like pornwolf want to think every guy cheats so he doesn't feel so bad about what he does.

Vitamin deficiencies do make people ill, not to mention the extra stress on the liver from having to break down enough fat to sustain the whole body.

There is a reason why doctors advise people to lose weight slowly and gradually as part of a program of healthy eating and exercise. Doctors don't tell people to eat one stick of celery each day, while running 20 miles.

no salt is not so good, it makes the body retain water, adds weight, and makes the heart work a little harder.

truth is "obesity" is not inherited, but body metabolism is.

and familial patterns of diet and eating are inculcated early on in life.

so people just assume that if you see a family of fatties that is must be all genetic...and it is true that slow metabolism does make losing weight and keeping it off more difficult...but it still boils down to 3500 calories = 1 pound.

take away the calories and create a deficit by exercise and weight is lost.

it's a physics thing.

all my siblings are overweight, my parents are overweight. they all eat the foods of our forefathers (midwestern farmers) except now they don't do the physical activity of farmers---they relax and watch tv, and eat stuff like potato chips and ice cream (like most americans.)

and they take their blood pressure medicine, and waddle around, feeling and looking tired.

i am the only one thin---because i work at it with diet and exercise.

it takes real work to be in shape, no question about it---and all the talk and fad diets won't change that. but if you work at it you will have big benefits in your life.

you will be lighter on your feet, your head will be clearer, you'll get more done in a day, you will enjoy a better "quality" of life, and you will look better.

sermon over, take care of yourself---sitting at a monitor and working as a webmaster is very unhealthy---start your diet and exercise program today.

I recommend you think about what you're saying.

So, when a person stops eating the fat that is stored is consumed? That may be true. But, with that assumption, you are implying the body just requires fat to function? What about fibre? And Carbohydrates? And all the other necessary vitamins and minerals? Salt balance?

Why doesn't everyone just stop eating then once they get fat to lose weight? Why does the body tell them they are hungry and need to eat?

:Oh crap

You are correct, she would, but I don't think you are understanding what I'm saying. Some people who eat a quantity of food that is within range of what their body needs still pack on the pounds.

If you are eating EXACTLY what your body needs and nothing more and you are still "overweight," then what?

The only choice is to go on a perpetual diet that you NEVER come off of, and constantly deny the body what it needs... all for the sake of fitting into a small pair of jeans.

oh, so being a fat fuck is okay, but vitamin deficiency will make you ill! [rolleyes]

liver breaks down the fat? you are a fucking moron :1orglaugh

Of course I will, but you better have pussy that makes me smile like I do when I see sunshine after a rainy day. :winkwink:

i'm not saying to stop eating for the rest of your life. but if you are overweight, you can go for a week (even two weeks) without any food at all, and it will be good for your body.

yes, body can perfectly function just by breaking down all the extra fat stored in your body. thats the #1 reason for fat to exist - so it can be stored up and when the 'hard times' come, the body can fall back on it.

ANSWER THE QUESTIONS. ANSWER THE DAMN QUESTIONS YOU GOD DAMN TROLL.

Honey, I still have my ex-husband begging to get in these panties, even the size they are now.....and he doesn't go for fat chicks, he just knows how good this one is. *grin*

Yeah, fat is there when you are eating less, not when you are eating nothing at all!

You're drunk, get some water, get some painkillers for the morning, go and crawl into bed, and sleep on your side. When you wake up tomorrow morning and read this thread, you can apologise for what a stupid jack ass you've been.

if you are STILL overweight then obviously you are eating more than your body needs.

its very easy actually:

- if you get more callories than your boby can spend, you will gain weigh.
- if you get less callories than your body needs, you lose weight.

Let it go, hun..you are right. His way may make you lose weight, but you will lose muscle mass and be just as unhealthy as you would be fat. But he'll never admit it, so just let it go.

This Lord Nelson character is one of the more effective trolls I've seen lately.

are you a fucking retard?

you are fat --> you stop eating --> without any food coming in, your body starts to process your fat --> you lose weight.

repeat untill you've reached desired body mass.