you claim that liver breaks down fat and you're calling me a troll?

get the fuck out ouf here.

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"you wont believe what he's saying here. He's saying fat people can not eat, and they won't die!"

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"Jesus, it's a breakthrough in medical science! Why didn't I think of that! I'll cancel all stomach staplings I had planned for the rest of the day!"

and what exactly does that suppose to prove?

http://infuse.cgi.org/05summer/11.cfm this one "breaks it down" a bit more for those with thick skulls. :)

Not if you have something abnormal going on with your metabolism.

Until the medical industry develops a pill that can precisely speed up or slow down the metabolism, some people are going to be overweight no matter what.

do you even read my threads you fucking idiot? or are you trolling here?

i never said to stop eating at all. i said stop eating for several days.

if you stop eating for a week you wont die -- you will only lose exess fat and become more healthy.

I fast once a year. No food for 7 days. Juices but no food. You won't get ill. Actually you feel much better during it.

Also, your stomach shrinks and you realize how much you normally overeat. We don't need half of what we put in our bodies.

I would strongly suggest that anyone who'd trying to lose weight should fast first. You will thank yourself for it.

Do you even read the links that you post?

liver does not break down the fat. live just creates bile, which breaks down the fat. and that process takes place in the stomach and intestines

Wow, you're fun to play with!

This is what was said:

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Originally Posted by kernelpanic
Vitamin deficiencies do make people ill, not to mention the extra stress on the liver from having to break down enough fat to sustain the whole body.

It doesn't say fat is broken down IN the liver, is says the liver breaks down fat, and that is the primary function of the liver, which you would know if YOU had read my links.

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Now back to the topic at hand.

Liver does not break down the fat. Bile breaks down fat.
Liver produces bile which is then ejected into stomach. Fat is broken down in the stomach and intestines.

The primary function of liver is NOT the breaking of fat.
The primary functions of liver are: drug detoxification, glycogen storage, plasma protein synthesis and bile secretion.

anyway, quit your liver bullshit.


the fact is that if you fast for a week, you will lose some of your fat. and you will not get ill -- in fact, you will feel yourself much better, because your body will also process the toxins that youve accumulated from all the shit food.

The trolls killed the heat of this thread lol

It held GFY's attention for most of the day. Good job Dre. Who coulda guessed that would happen when you started it!?

LOL Wow you make the most anally retentive guy in the world look laid back.:error

Nah, I just had to go file my ex's taxes real quick, lol.:winkwink:

Surprisingly... no. Very little fat is lost when going on a sudden fast for a week. The body actually "circles the wagons" so to speak.... it perceives a drought so it goes into a mode of conservation. The body will conserve stored up fat, and will draw it's nutrients from muscle and other tissues.

An overweight person is better off keeping a sensible balanced diet of fruit, vegetables, whole grains, low-fat dairy and lean cuts of meat, eat 5 smaller meals a day instead of tthree larger ones, and get out and walk or some other light to moderate exercise three times a week and the weight will come off, and in a healthy way.

Fasting is not the answer. Nor are fad diets. And those fad workout gizmos on TV aren't he magical answer they are touted to be either.

Wow.

This thread is still going.

Props to Doctor Dre on the troll. 6 pages :thumbsup

Damn. This thread took a few twists and turns while I was out.

Meals should consist of protein, carbs and fat. This is what the body needs. Percentages of each should be balanced in order for the body to metabolise properly.

Exercise consists of challenging cardio to make the heart healthy and to help increase metabolic function...because cardio doesn't differentiate what it burns, read above and make sure each small meal consists of protein, carbs and fat...in the proper percentage for your body.

Add to that weight training and resistance training to tone muscle and increase endurance and stamina and weight loss is assured. At the same time, as muscles are worked on, metabolism works as it should.

There are few medical conditions that affect metabolism..

Diet without exercise may result in weight loss, but does nothing to promote healthy muscles and increased metabolism. Weight training/resistance training without proper nutrition denies the body of essential balance.

All three components are needed in order to achieve the goal, which is to lose body fat and keep it off.

As to men cheating on women, not all men cheat....many want to...dream about it, fantasise about it but don't do it...for several reasons, not the least of which is the cost to the wallet and the ensuing life changes that occur if they get caught. Men and women who marry, however, are not dead and will look and fantasise until the day they die...stats indicate that 60% of men cheat, with about 40% of women who cheat...

It's biological to want to fuck...and it is that biology that allows us to live very decent lives providing men and women with porn.....

The smart ones don't try to educate and don't get caught, nor do they do the stupid death bed confession thing.

BTW, I have the whole Body For Life book in a pdf file if anyone's interested.

holy shit dre

popular thread?

I like your style. :thumbsup

exactly correct. try to lose only 1 to 2 lbs max each week.

getting in top shape will likely take most people 9 mos to 1 year.

it's a lifestyle thing. LOTS of things must change, not just diet.

exactly correct.

For ten years, I tried everything...nothing worked until I finally gave in and followed the nutritional program, exactly as CD Smith describes, a proscribed amount of calories, cardio three times a week and weight/resistance training four times a week.

I am almost at my first goal..and we will reassess goals when I lose the last of the eleven pounds I have left.

I've lost 21% of my body fat and 46 pounds...and I am reasonably sure it will stay off.

I will be buff by next year. Even though this has taken nine months and will probably take another year to complete phase two...it took ten years to put it on, so this is nothing, in terms of time.

I got married to a girl with an awesome body, surprise surprise 1 year later she starts stacking on the kilos, we lasted six years and thats not why I got rid of her, but saw her 3 months after I left her and surprise surprise she lost all the weight she gained so that she could suck someone else into marrying her.....:321GFY TYPICAL

congrats and good luck with the next year... It does feel good to take off a decade of fat in short while.. People say it's faster to put it on than take it off, which is BS unless you eat really badly.. it's just easier and more fun to put it on :)

Bullshit... fasting like that only puts your metabolism into "shock" mode. Your body thinks it's going to starve, therefore it may loose weight at first, but once you start eating again, your body will put TWICE as much into fat because it may go through another period without food..

Instead of being a complete fucking retarded dick, why not shut the hell up? If someone wants to loose weight, NOT EATING is a STUPID fucking solution. The BEST solution is to get a nutritional counsellor and work it through with them.

Retard.

Awesome work, Raven, and 100% true. I have lost 75 pounds in about 8 months, still working on losing some more... it's the final 10-20 pounds that prove to be the challenge though :)

We can all agree that not eating isn't the solution. Gradually cut down the portions / eating better will show better changes. At least it did for me . I eat a bit less, and I cut off bad foods (I still allow myself some crap), and I slowly loose weight.

did you even try it? all you can do is sit on your ass, stuffing your mug with fries and whining on boards about having slow metabolism. stupid fucking cunt.

when fasting, metabolism will not go into "shock mode". it slows down during fasting, but it gets back to normal once you start eating again.

if it was how you are saying, then skinny people who want to gain weight could just fast for several days, then start eating and gain twice as much weight.

that is not the case. metabolism auto-regulates itself.

Fact: If you stop eating for a week the weight lost will be water and muscle. A body with more muscel will have a faster metabolism. The way to do it is to eat little and often, take your time with food as it takes approximately 20 minutes for the brain to register it's full. Eating speeds up the metabolism..it's what you eat that counts.
If you starve yourself your body will go into survival mode and store every calorie you eat...hence slowing down your metabolism.

It will be water, muscle and fat.

but the fatties have virtually no muscle - they are just bloated with fat. so there's nothing they should worry about.

and no one is stopping you from drinking water when you fast.

Oh and Lord Nelson, I don't know you and I'm not making excuses for those who choose to pig out and get large...but not every one is large because of that. It is true that some get that way through medical reasons.
But it is also true that if you follow a sensible eating plan, get some exercise and drink plenty of water you will be healthy, regardless to your size. You will mostly likely lose weight too. But losing weight means losing fat, not water or muscle tissue if you stop eating for a week. Less muscle means less calories burned.
You just seem to have a hatred for fat people and you talk like you're a nutritionist. If I'm gonna take any dietary advice it will be from experts not someone who clearly knows nothing about biology.

Medical reasons are responsible for less than 2% of obese people.


Fatties don't have any notable muscles. Where would they get it from if they sit on their asses the whole time.

And one is forcing you to stop drinking water.

Aah the usual debate about this crap. Most fat people are fat due to their lifestyle not their physiology or geneology, very few are overweight or obese due top medical factors.

Just so you realise i am a honours in immunology and microbiology, and three years of which included general biology e.g. physiology.

This is so unbelievably rare that you've probably only seen a handful of heffers who are medically fat. All the rest are pigs.

The buttom line is: no one is born to be super sized. If each one of these cows decided to eat sensible and healthy and actually exercise they wouldnt be obese. Plain and simple. No excuses.

It is also funny how when countries set up gulags or concentration camps, or go into a long drought, none of these "genetically fat people" seem to exist.