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pornstar2pac · 12-23-2005, 12:47 AM

30000000000

I won!

I won!

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AdultMegaCash · 12-23-2005, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by chadglni

It's a big damn difference when they guy accusing you of spamming his class C's to booted is buying the ticket. Reaks of setup, I wouldn't go if I were promised a million dollars once on the ground.

The only reason to NOT get on the plane is if you were actually spamming and did get those class c's booted.

If you did not SPAM or do anything else there is no reason to not get on the plane and work it out.

Varius · 12-23-2005, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultMegaCash

I do agree that fighting someone unprofessional by being unprofessional is not the way to do business. Everyone does things there own way. If someone was calling and giving threats it might be easier to get them off your back by saying "hey it was sent" when it actually was not. I cannot really comment on this as I do not know the entire situation.

I do see someone from Split did post and say they got an entire class c blocked, this could explain the fine that was mentioned.

That's why I asked before if that's an American thing....in Canada at all the datacentres I know, they will easily block your C Class or null your IPs but never heard of any fines that go along with it. Maybe it's just their particular datacentre though.

Although, even in that case, I pretty sure any DC will give atleast one warning to the host before ANY such action. So the host, SI in this case, could have discontinued service / access to Bdjuf to avoid it going on and getting fined

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chadglni · 12-23-2005, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultMegaCash

The only reason to NOT get on the plane is if you were actually spamming and did get those class c's booted.

If you did not SPAM or do anything else there is no reason to not get on the plane and work it out.

Ok sir, you are a fucking retard. If in fact the hosting company was fined for spamming, and they are pointing fingers at bdjuf, and the feds were involved he would be the one going to jail. Whoopity shit, he can wait 2 years for a court date and be found innocent! I'm sure he'll feel great knowing that the justice system will set him free while he's locked up awaiting trial.

baddog · 12-23-2005, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultMegaCash

Very nice post Chris. I think this more then shows Split is willing to resolve this issue and make it right for both sides involved.

Sorry, but bullshit. When I leave town there is more expense involved than just my transportation costs. Time is money, and flying to another country to get my money back is a waste of my time and money.

Shit, with my mainstream company I charge my clients by the hour just for the travel time.

kaori · 12-23-2005, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by chadglni

That's good, so he can fly to Canada and meet bdjuf then huh? Oh wait, he wants bdjuf to interrupt only HIS business.

heh, I never even thought of that.. I guess that IS something Chris should be able to do easily! If it has to be face to face, fly up here, and meet bjduf on his terms..

Webby · 12-23-2005, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultMegaCash

If it is not being resolved on the phone, and not via e mail or icq, what other choice is there. It's obvious both sides have issues with the other and it's not getting taken care of any other way then you do what you must do.

I am unsure why anyone would need to bring all of their content, and every document they have saying they work in adult to meet someone.

Dump it. File court papers and add damages for the promises of servers which never happened, costs and any other bullshit permitted by the court.

When folks don't do as the initially agreed, then end up with crap statements about what they want - ("If BDJuFF wants to solve this matter he must come to me." DUH???) - that shit needs killed. The world does not revolve around Jester.

split_joel · 12-23-2005, 12:51 AM

actually no warning bro, they do not give warnings when a box recieves over 350 spam complaints in a matter of 2 hours

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Originally Posted by Varius

That's why I asked before if that's an American thing....in Canada at all the datacentres I know, they will easily block your C Class or null your IPs but never heard of any fines that go along with it. Maybe it's just their particular datacentre though.

Although, even in that case, I pretty sure any DC will give atleast one warning to the host before ANY such action. So the host, SI in this case, could have discontinued service / access to Bdjuf to avoid it going on and getting fined

baddog · 12-23-2005, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by tical

Fuck you dickwad, just because a ticket is paid for doesn't mean that it's all expenses paid. Plus I'm sure he has better things to do than fly down to southern Cali and resolve something that could just as easily be solved over the phone or a secure IM session.

Exactly. How about Chris fly to Canada?

clickclickclick · 12-23-2005, 12:51 AM

thanks to this thread, there are some sponsors i will never use or refer to and some hosting that i will never use or refer to.

great job guys

baddog · 12-23-2005, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

And you haven't shaved since you were 12 ? lol

Shave every couple of days

Doctor Dre · 12-23-2005, 12:52 AM

Damn I was busy and missed the post... damn it

TheJimmy · 12-23-2005, 12:52 AM

aren't we past the "yearrrrrrrrrrrr two thousanddddddddddddddd"?

face to face meeting? we got the intarwebs, webcams, phones, etc etc etc

If this is a spam issue and there are 'legal' issues at hand, sure that's another story, but for merely working out a deal gone bad because of some 'bad words' or whatever...face to face seems overkill...

smells of some legal schtuffff to me that's holding all this up...

AdultMegaCash · 12-23-2005, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Varius

That's why I asked before if that's an American thing....in Canada at all the datacentres I know, they will easily block your C Class or null your IPs but never heard of any fines that go along with it. Maybe it's just their particular datacentre though.

Although, even in that case, I pretty sure any DC will give atleast one warning to the host before ANY such action. So the host, SI in this case, could have discontinued service / access to Bdjuf to avoid it going on and getting fined

This is true and I agree, but in my experience it's also going to depend on the amount of complaints, getting an entire class C banned is some pretty hardcore shit. I am not familar with this entire situation, it appears Bdjuf was notified that he did bring a fine, but only a couple people know exactly what happened.

I do agree there should be a warning, but if you take on a ton of complaints and get an entire class c banned the fine may have came with that. I am not 100% sure though

pornstar2pac · 12-23-2005, 12:53 AM

I think bdjuf went to bed

hershie · 12-23-2005, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by split_joel

actually no warning bro, they do not give warnings when a box recieves over 350 spam complaints in a matter of 2 hours

I see, so you guys were "getting even" with a client by lying to them repeatedly for several months because they caused you grief. Real classy.

kaori · 12-23-2005, 12:54 AM

bjduf, you don't have offices on Nun's Island here do you?

AdultMegaCash · 12-23-2005, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by chadglni

Ok sir, you are a fucking retard. If in fact the hosting company was fined for spamming, and they are pointing fingers at bdjuf, and the feds were involved he would be the one going to jail. Whoopity shit, he can wait 2 years for a court date and be found innocent! I'm sure he'll feel great knowing that the justice system will set him free while he's locked up awaiting trial.

Yes he will be found guilty if he had any wrong doing or was spamming. I doubt any host has power over the gov to put someone in jail because they claim the person was a spammer.

Daruma · 12-23-2005, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by chadglni

It's a big damn difference when they guy accusing you of spamming his class C's to booted is buying the ticket. Reaks of setup, I wouldn't go if I were promised a million dollars once on the ground.

thats being stupid - you really think that the purpose is todo a setup - if they did that they would loose virtually all of their current biz and any hopes for future biz - word of this type of setup would absolutely kill them - no chance

DeanCapture · 12-23-2005, 12:55 AM

Sorry to hear about your problems...hope you guys get it worked out

By the way.....Twistys Rocks!

chadglni · 12-23-2005, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultMegaCash

This is true and I agree, but in my experience it's also going to depend on the amount of complaints, getting an entire class C banned is some pretty hardcore shit. I am not familar with this entire situation, it appears Bdjuf was notified that he did bring a fine, but only a couple people know exactly what happened.

I do agree there should be a warning, but if you take on a ton of complaints and get an entire class c banned the fine may have came with that. I am not 100% sure though

I'm almost positive that bdjuf said he asked about his traffic sources before he ordered $8000 worth of servers. But honestly, what exactly do you think they assumed 20 servers were for?

The point being, if you say "sure you can do that" then get a fine because I did that well honestly I don't give a shit. Don't tell me something is ok if it's only ok until you catch shit over it. Don't know if this is the case but it would appear so.

pornstar2pac · 12-23-2005, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DeanCapture

Sorry to hear about your problems...hope you guys get it worked out

By the way.....Twistys Rocks!

damn, she is hot!

clickclickclick · 12-23-2005, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultMegaCash

The only reason to NOT get on the plane is if you were actually spamming and did get those class c's booted.

If you did not SPAM or do anything else there is no reason to not get on the plane and work it out.

i love ur responses, truely your posts reflect how business should be done at adultmegacash

split_joel · 12-23-2005, 12:56 AM

that is not the issue man and I dont see what your direct problem is with us. we are not getting even and like I said I have nothing to do with this and bdjuf said it himself, so why make the drama worse then it really is. I am saying thats why his boxes were taken off fines and so forth

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Originally Posted by hershie

I see, so you guys were "getting even" with a client by lying to them repeatedly for several months because they caused you grief. Real classy.

AdultMegaCash · 12-23-2005, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Sorry, but bullshit. When I leave town there is more expense involved than just my transportation costs. Time is money, and flying to another country to get my money back is a waste of my time and money.

Shit, with my mainstream company I charge my clients by the hour just for the travel time.

I do agree that time is money, but when there seems to be no other resolve as in phone, e mail, icq, then you need to make that sacrafice to make it happen. When you have no other choice the bad choice becomes the good one.

I do not agree that it's bullshit, I think it's nice that not everyone airs all their laundry here and instead want to work it out between the two parties involved. What business is it of ours?

I guess if Chris wanted to show a lot of class he would fly to Canada and meet with Bdjuf.

TheJimmy · 12-23-2005, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DeanCapture

Sorry to hear about your problems...hope you guys get it worked out

By the way.....Twistys Rocks!

damm nice photo man! thanks for sharing, this thread needs some hot ass instead of hot heads

Webby · 12-23-2005, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by hershie

I see, so you guys were "getting even" with a client by lying to them repeatedly for several months because they caused you grief. Real classy.

It's like that hershie. Hard to mingle "professionalism" with bullshit like that. The smell of this is the same crap I saw with SI in the 90's.

chadglni · 12-23-2005, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultMegaCash

Yes he will be found guilty if he had any wrong doing or was spamming. I doubt any host has power over the gov to put someone in jail because they claim the person was a spammer.

What does being found guilty have to do with anything? You still have to disrupt your life either by sitting in jail, or going to jail and getting bailed out. You would then have to go from Canada to California for possibly multiple court dates on your dime to prove you are innocent. No chance in hell I would fly anywhere because someone owes me money, especially under these circumstances. Anyone that would is off in the head.

SplitInfinity · 12-23-2005, 12:58 AM

Well, ya know, if he came here I would pay for it all...
I suppose we can do it over secure IM.

You guys, some of you, I mean come on now.... you take cheap shots on issues
you dont know about. Go ahead read into things and make a movie out of it.
I really dont care much because I respect myself and my decisions.

When I said "I fucked him over", there are specific reasons which are none of the
publics business. I did not lie about anything however one thing led to another and
thats his perception of the matter. No sweat, this will be worked out.

I dont want to "win" this match, I want it to be fair.
The reason for a face to face is because I think we owe it to eachother to
make things straight, and the respectable man does this sort of negotiation in person.
Whatever, it was an idea. Just trying to settle a valid arguement between two friends who are in a pickle right now.

I will not post details as to why this transpired to protect those involved.
I will come to an reasonable settlement on this with BDJuff.
I will NOT talk to his partner. Him and I do not get along.

You are a good guy man, you deserve the full treatment.
Your post is cool with me because in the end everyone will be happy.

Happy Holidays to all except wdsguy. LOL (had to do that, lol, love love love)

DeanCapture · 12-23-2005, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by pornstar2pac

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Tempest · 12-23-2005, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultMegaCash

This is true and I agree, but in my experience it's also going to depend on the amount of complaints, getting an entire class C banned is some pretty hardcore shit. I am not familar with this entire situation, it appears Bdjuf was notified that he did bring a fine, but only a couple people know exactly what happened.

I do agree there should be a warning, but if you take on a ton of complaints and get an entire class c banned the fine may have came with that. I am not 100% sure though

SI said that what was posted was 100% true.. So.. regardless of the fine issue, SI agreed to refund the full $8k.. They lied and didn't... A different agreement was reached in which they'd refund the $8k minus half the fine... they lied and didn't... 4-5+ months of this.. That's NOT "standup" behavior at all.

Why anyone would listen to what you have to say though with that SI link in your sig is beyond me.. Maybe they said they'd give you a month or 2 free on your hosting if you came in here and did some damage control for them..

AdultMegaCash · 12-23-2005, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by chadglni

I'm almost positive that bdjuf said he asked about his traffic sources before he ordered $8000 worth of servers. But honestly, what exactly do you think they assumed 20 servers were for?

The point being, if you say "sure you can do that" then get a fine because I did that well honestly I don't give a shit. Don't tell me something is ok if it's only ok until you catch shit over it. Don't know if this is the case but it would appear so.

None of us know the entire story it's all speculation for us. I know people who run pill sites, and mainstream programs that have a lot more then 20 servers, so if someone orders them up I do not think they are going to think they are a spammer.

I agree, we've been going back and forth, if Bdjuf was clear what he was doing, and Split did say it was fine and no worries, then yes if he did bring on a fine that he should not be charged for it. But, as I have said no one knows both sides except the sides involved.

I think we should wait and see if Bdjuf takes the offer to meet him and see what happens from there.

AdultMegaCash · 12-23-2005, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Tempest

SI said that what was posted was 100% true.. So.. regardless of the fine issue, SI agreed to refund the full $8k.. They lied and didn't... A different agreement was reached in which they'd refund the $8k minus half the fine... they lied and didn't... 4-5+ months of this.. That's NOT "standup" behavior at all.

Why anyone would listen to what you have to say though with that SI link in your sig is beyond me.. Maybe they said they'd give you a month or 2 free on your hosting if you came in here and did some damage control for them..

Because I host there and show support means nothing about what I am saying. I am just giving a different opinion. We don't know both sides to the story is all.

I am not playing damage control, I have said that both parties were wrong. Think what you like though.

chadglni · 12-23-2005, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultMegaCash

None of us know the entire story it's all speculation for us. I know people who run pill sites, and mainstream programs that have a lot more then 20 servers, so if someone orders them up I do not think they are going to think they are a spammer.

I agree, we've been going back and forth, if Bdjuf was clear what he was doing, and Split did say it was fine and no worries, then yes if he did bring on a fine that he should not be charged for it. But, as I have said no one knows both sides except the sides involved.

I think we should wait and see if Bdjuf takes the offer to meet him and see what happens from there.

I don't care what they do, I just said no way I would fly to Cali to settle anything.

P.S. A pill site with 20 servers is dealing in spam.

SmokeyTheBear · 12-23-2005, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by split_joel

actually no warning bro, they do not give warnings when a box recieves over 350 spam complaints in a matter of 2 hours

wow that seems rather low. i could fake 400 complaints in an hour easily..

This one forum used to piss me off because some whiners would always get me kicked off ( a mainstream one ) just for voicing my opinion , so i built a "whiner bot" that would make various complaints from random people , so that they would get so many complaints they wouldnt be able to spot the real ones

I hope those are verified..

AdultMegaCash · 12-23-2005, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by clickclickclick

i love ur responses, truely your posts reflect how business should be done at adultmegacash

We are as professional as you will find and have been since 1996. I am sorry that if having a debate shows we are bad at doing business.

AdultMegaCash · 12-23-2005, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by chadglni

I don't care what they do, I just said no way I would fly to Cali to settle anything.

P.S. A pill site with 20 servers is dealing in spam.

I know 100% in fact that they do not. They spends 100's of thousands of dollars with GTS, Cybercat and others.

baddog · 12-23-2005, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultMegaCash

I guess if Chris wanted to show a lot of class he would fly to Canada and meet with Bdjuf.

Since he is the one insisting on the face to face, yes.

sonofsam · 12-23-2005, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

I can't beleive klik revenue isn't all over this shit yet

they will... soon as it turns to the year 2007 and they can bump it and annoy the next generation of GFY'rs

chadglni · 12-23-2005, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultMegaCash

I know 100% in fact that they do not. They spends 100's of thousands of dollars with GTS, Cybercat and others.

That's a lot of pill traffic.

clickclickclick · 12-23-2005, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by SplitInfinity

Well, ya know, if he came here I would pay for it all...
I suppose we can do it over secure IM.

You guys, some of you, I mean come on now.... you take cheap shots on issues
you dont know about. Go ahead read into things and make a movie out of it.
I really dont care much because I respect myself and my decisions.

When I said "I fucked him over", there are specific reasons which are none of the
publics business. I did not lie about anything however one thing led to another and
thats his perception of the matter. No sweat, this will be worked out.

I dont want to "win" this match, I want it to be fair.
The reason for a face to face is because I think we owe it to eachother to
make things straight, and the respectable man does this sort of negotiation in person.
Whatever, it was an idea. Just trying to settle a valid arguement between two friends who are in a pickle right now.

I will not post details as to why this transpired to protect those involved.
I will come to an reasonable settlement on this with BDJuff.
I will NOT talk to his partner. Him and I do not get along.

You are a good guy man, you deserve the full treatment.
Your post is cool with me because in the end everyone will be happy.

Happy Holidays to all except wdsguy. LOL (had to do that, lol, love love love)

just pay him back everything and fucken swallow ur "loses"
i doubt this thread will give u more credibility to your professionalism.. especially if it gets bumped during ur promotions.

hershie · 12-23-2005, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by split_joel

that is not the issue man and I dont see what your direct problem is with us. we are not getting even and like I said I have nothing to do with this and bdjuf said it himself, so why make the drama worse then it really is. I am saying thats why his boxes were taken off fines and so forth

Oh but it IS the issue to many of us reading who are calling it like it is. Your lies about the wire for months smells bad regardless of the disputes between you and your client.

Daruma · 12-23-2005, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by chadglni

What does being found guilty have to do with anything? You still have to disrupt your life either by sitting in jail, or going to jail and getting bailed out. You would then have to go from Canada to California for possibly multiple court dates on your dime to prove you are innocent. No chance in hell I would fly anywhere because someone owes me money, especially under these circumstances. Anyone that would is off in the head.

your assuming its a setup - that would be a death penalty for their biz current and future - no one would trust them

datatank · 12-23-2005, 01:06 AM

Live by the sword you know the rest. Its a cost of doing business for those who choose that route

xNetworx · 12-23-2005, 01:06 AM

I'm curious why this has to be resolved face to face. That makes no sense to me whatsoever. Oh well, this is none of my business... good night GFY

AdultMegaCash · 12-23-2005, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Since he is the one insisting on the face to face, yes.

I agree, I should have been more clear in what I was saying. I meant it was nice to see that he did not want to fight it out on the boards, but to meet and settle it face to face and make it right for both sides.

It's rare you see that these days in this industry.

Anyways lots of respect to you man, cheers and happy holidays.

Hornydog4cooter · 12-23-2005, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultMegaCash

I am not playing damage control, I have said that both parties were wrong. Think what you like though.

How do you know what party is wrong if you dont know whats going on?

AdultMegaCash · 12-23-2005, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by chadglni

That's a lot of pill traffic.

oh yes yes it is, I am very jealous everytime I speak with him. They do a sick amount of sales with no mail at all. They do not even run a program. All in house traffic.

split_joel · 12-23-2005, 01:08 AM

the fact is wutever went on is not yours or the publics buisness and further more, you can say what you want but you are just making yourself look more and more like a fool because you do not know what you are talkign about and i say that in my own defence and say that not being involved with SI at all on this post *hence no sig*

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Originally Posted by hershie

Oh but it IS the issue to many of us reading who are calling it like it is. Your lies about the wire for months smells bad regardless of the disputes between you and your client.

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TheJimmy ICQ- five seven 0 2 5 5 0 Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 10,747	aren't we past the "yearrrrrrrrrrrr two thousanddddddddddddddd"? face to face meeting? we got the intarwebs, webcams, phones, etc etc etc If this is a spam issue and there are 'legal' issues at hand, sure that's another story, but for merely working out a deal gone bad because of some 'bad words' or whatever...face to face seems overkill... smells of some legal schtuffff to me that's holding all this up... __________________ Investor with 5m - 15m USD to invest. Do you have a site or network of sites earning 50k - 200k a month income? Email your contact and preliminary data to: domain.cashventures (at) gmail.com....Please...no tire kickers...serious offers and inquiries only.

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SplitInfinity Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 3,047	Well, ya know, if he came here I would pay for it all... I suppose we can do it over secure IM. You guys, some of you, I mean come on now.... you take cheap shots on issues you dont know about. Go ahead read into things and make a movie out of it. I really dont care much because I respect myself and my decisions. When I said "I fucked him over", there are specific reasons which are none of the publics business. I did not lie about anything however one thing led to another and thats his perception of the matter. No sweat, this will be worked out. I dont want to "win" this match, I want it to be fair. The reason for a face to face is because I think we owe it to eachother to make things straight, and the respectable man does this sort of negotiation in person. Whatever, it was an idea. Just trying to settle a valid arguement between two friends who are in a pickle right now. I will not post details as to why this transpired to protect those involved. I will come to an reasonable settlement on this with BDJuff. I will NOT talk to his partner. Him and I do not get along. You are a good guy man, you deserve the full treatment. Your post is cool with me because in the end everyone will be happy. Happy Holidays to all except wdsguy. LOL (had to do that, lol, love love love)

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12-23-2005, 01:06 AM	#346
xNetworx So Fucking What Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Whore Island Posts: 14,445	I'm curious why this has to be resolved face to face. That makes no sense to me whatsoever. Oh well, this is none of my business... good night GFY