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Old 12-23-2005, 03:59 AM   #551
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Its all good. Think what you will think, but in the end, bdjuff and I will ride off into the sunset as friends again. I already know what I am willing to do..... just waiting to talk to him. He made this public, however in the end, its between him and I, and the board?
huh? He said he contacted you 80 times already and after many weeks/months, this issue has not been resolved.
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Old 12-23-2005, 04:00 AM   #552
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bdjuf, stop crying over peanuts. I'm sure you caused SI more damage than what you paid getting an entire c-class blocked due to your unprofessional spamming. I wouldn't refund you a penny, you are in the wrong business, go back to school or something.
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Old 12-23-2005, 04:01 AM   #553
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I definitely wouldn't have taken this to the boards...
So how many months would you have waited to get your money back? Taking it the boards was his last option after five months of trying every other route. After two hours of posting this thread he reached a resolution.
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Old 12-23-2005, 04:01 AM   #554
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it's a Drama's time and my drama will be next
but good luck man to get back your money, bastards must die!(sure after they return money back
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huh? He said he contacted you 80 times already and after many weeks/months, this issue has not been resolved.
It's the 81st time that really matters...

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bdjuf, stop crying over peanuts. I'm sure you caused SI more damage than what you paid getting an entire c-class blocked due to your unprofessional spamming. I wouldn't refund you a penny, you are in the wrong business, go back to school or something.
1.) 8k is not peanuts to everyone

2.) unprofessional spamming? what does that make split infinity, since they knew what he was doing?

3.) wrong business, go back to school? he is going back to school, but if he also is able to afford the cost of 20 servers, i think he is doing everything right
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Old 12-23-2005, 04:07 AM   #557
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That might explain why their SSL cert for secure.splitinfinity.com has been expired since 08/28/2005.
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Old 12-23-2005, 04:11 AM   #559
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All I know is Chris and Split are very professional to deal with. When I moved to them I had a financial issue with them that totalled pretty close to 8k. As soon as Chris realized where the issue stood I got my full refund back and am still hosted with them..... Couldn't imagine Chris shafting anyone, I would say there is a lot more to this than meets the eye...
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Old 12-23-2005, 04:13 AM   #560
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1.) 8k is not peanuts to everyone

2.) unprofessional spamming? what does that make split infinity, since they knew what he was doing?

3.) wrong business, go back to school? he is going back to school, but if he also is able to afford the cost of 20 servers, i think he is doing everything right

If $8k means anything to you, you definately are in the wrong business. You won't even be able to afford lawyers or anything when you need them.

You think SI would risk their entire operation to have some idiot bringing in 350 complaints per hour for a measely $8k?

bdjuf obviously has no clue what he's doing if he's bringing in that many complaints. It's not even worth discussing really. He is just looking more and more like a n00b idiot for bringing this shit to the board. If I was Chris I wouldn't even talk to him right now.
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I read this whole fucking thread and it is still missing so many facts, that one can not make judgement on who is guilty of wrongful doing.

So were these servers used for email spamming? If so, then that's against SplitInifinity TOS/AUP, unless SplitInfinity agreed to let Bdjuff email spam on them, in which case Bdjuff would have to sign a contract stating so, or else SplitInfinity's orignal TOS/AUP would still apply. I highly doubt SplitInfinity would create a contract that allows Bdjuff to spam, in which case, all they would have is a verbal agreement, which means nothing in the eyes of the law.

For Bdjuff to demand a full refund of his money when he was email spamming on the servers, even saying he will take SplitInfinity to court is just foolish. IMO, that's like someone who sells dope saying, "If you dont pay me for all the dope I sold you, I will call the cops." However, neither Bdjuff or SplitInfinity has come out and said these servers were used for email spamming.

Bdjuff, if you're going to make this situation public, you should make all the facts known from the beginning, so people can make judgement based on the facts and not just speculation.
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Old 12-23-2005, 04:42 AM   #562
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If $8k means anything to you, you definately are in the wrong business. You won't even be able to afford lawyers or anything when you need them.
i think you are underestimating how many adult webmasters are under 10k/month
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Old 12-23-2005, 04:45 AM   #563
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alright, on a more relevant note, Chris and I have come to a little agreement where he will wire me a "fair" amount after christmas as well as fax me proof of the fine he recieved.

hopefully this will be taken care of early next week and this thread will only be a memory!

I hope so as well
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Old 12-23-2005, 04:52 AM   #564
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So much for keeping shit on the DL .. headlines are going to read "Canadian Spammer and San Diego web host receive 15 years in prison" ...
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So much for keeping shit on the DL .. headlines are going to read "Canadian Spammer and San Diego web host receive 15 years in prison" ...
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Old 12-23-2005, 05:19 AM   #566
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Old 12-23-2005, 05:35 AM   #567
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So he used the servers for spamming and prolly it wasn't optin like talked with Split.
What I don't get why it took so long to settle this.
No matter how this ends theres no explanation for how Split handled the situation.
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Old 12-23-2005, 05:37 AM   #568
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Well, im off to bed.
BDJUff, call me tommorrow 619-227-8845

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lol... is that a joke?
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Old 12-23-2005, 05:38 AM   #569
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lol... is that a joke?
I guess 80+ calls aren't enough already.
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How come these type of problems never happens to me? O wait, thats right i dont let anyone bullshit me around. 72 hours mean fucking 72 hours, i wont fucking wait a second more for the servers to be online if i dont get what was promied to me. I cant fucking believe you waited this long.

You need to be fucking aggressive to get shit done, not a pussy.
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Old 12-23-2005, 05:47 AM   #571
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Fair dinkum, why not...
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Old 12-23-2005, 06:11 AM   #572
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ok let me just say one more thing..

Bdjuf, you need to grow some fucking balls.

I seen some of your threads, you let every one walk all over you. Whats up with that shit man? If you are running a business you need some balls. If people think you are week, chances are you will get ripped because they know you are not going do shit about it. I still cannot believe you waited 5 fucking months for this.

Ps: Actually something like this happened to me once. A guy who was a (unofficial) reseller for a hosting company sold me some servers. I cancelled after a month, however, he still kept using it and after 3 months the hosting company wanted to charge me $3k (because he disappeared). I didnt pay for shit! They called me nonstop at wanted to send a collection agency. I dint wait fucking 6 months like you did though, i called my dads lawyer and got things sellted the same week. I didnt loose a fucking penny. Dont let people walk all over you, never let that shit happen.
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Old 12-23-2005, 06:31 AM   #574
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damn this is some good drama, best in along time.
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Old 12-23-2005, 06:40 AM   #575
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I am pleased to say I have turned a many a spam email
originating from split over to the feds and spamcop.
what we have here is basically scammers bitching about
getting scammed by scammers
which
is what 99% of gfy is comprised of.
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Old 12-23-2005, 06:59 AM   #577
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Wow, all this attention. I feel loved.
:-)

Yep, BDJUff and I have an issue. His post is 100% right.
I fucked him over.

Now with that said..... one must ask "why"?

I feel that both of us suffered damage in the transaction.
However, there is alot to this "drama" that I will not post for the simple reason
that I do not want to make matters worse for some parties involved.

This thread is fun by the way. I love you all, even the doubters.

This board would not be GFY without drama. I am happy to contribute.

If BDJuFF wants to solve this matter he must come to me.
I will pay for the ticket for him to fly here. I will not discuss this matter
outside of a face to face professional meeting between two businessmen.

Note: Alot of this would have been avoided if your partner didnt have such a big mouth. Threatining people is not a good business tactic. It surely didnt give him what
he wanted, did it?

Ill negotiate, its only fair to do so, but note this: I will not be threatened, if that happnens again, I will let this go to court. We can keep it out if you like and maintain
friendship, which, I always have liked you personally..... its someone else I have a
hard time dealing with.

Nevertheless, say what you like just spell my name right. :-)

Lets sort it out. Can you do lunch after Christmas Break?
No drama, we just need to sort this out. I want fair, not to defeat you.

I suppose we could do this over the phone.... I just would be limited on what I am
willing to discuss in that case. More professional to meet in person and negotiate.
Ill show you my papers, you show me yours, all will me merry.

Peace out.

Anyone wanna chat about this? I am on ICQ, AIM....

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Sheesh lotta drama here....

From past experience anyone coming aboard with 20 servers should be a semi red flag that they MAY be looking to spam =)) A bit of enquiry may have be in order prior to approving the account...With that said Bdjuff and his metro self has been hosting with us for a long time and we have honestly never received one spam complaint with regards to any of his accounts, great guy to work with actually. None the less the Split guys are good people I'm sure they will work this out professionally. Good luck to all involved....

See ya all in Vegas Baby!!!
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I am pleased to say I have turned a many a spam email
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what we have here is basically scammers bitching about
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Sheesh lotta drama here....

From past experience anyone coming aboard with 20 servers should be a semi red flag that they MAY be looking to spam =)) A bit of enquiry may have be in order prior to approving the account...With that said Bdjuff and his metro self has been hosting with us for a long time and we have honestly never received one spam complaint with regards to any of his accounts, great guy to work with actually. None the less the Split guys are good people I'm sure they will work this out professionally. Good luck to all involved....

See ya all in Vegas Baby!!!

I think its a bit too late for the "professionally" part.
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I'm bumping this thread for bdjuf, because Splitinfinity fuckin' suck on this one.. host of the year.. MY ASS !

Hope you can get your money back bro
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I think they should pay you back all of the money, and if they did get fined where is the proof? If they got fined and prove it, I do think it would be cool of you to take less the fine.

GOod luck bdjuf
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Maybe you should actually read before you post... The customer said they didn't use the servers (only 4 that they knew were online) other than to update the OS... SI said that what the customer said was 100% correct... Therefore, the customer wasn't spamming... SI also dropped a little something else later than someone may have hacked into those servers and were the ones spamming.
Tempest, you should read a little more closely too: Those same boxes that apprently did nothing also generated 350 spam complaints in less than 2 hours - and appear to have gotten an entire class C tossed as a result.

Please read all the posts, not just the ones from people you like.

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the spam complaints are irrelevant.... splitinfinity knew what he was doing, so they should have made sure they would be able to handle the complaints that went along with it
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All this spent energy and taking so many people's valuable productive time away from their business tasks to read endless pages on a thread about a server bill dispute.

Truly fucking sad. Life is so short folks. Move on . . .
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All this spent energy and taking so many people's valuable productive time away from their business tasks to read endless pages on a thread about a server bill dispute.

Truly fucking sad. Life is so short folks. Move on . . .
I'm sure you've read every page of this drama also
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holy crap 12 pages?!?!?
yup, i was all over this first thing when it came out last nite... got some early sig spots it seems... it was only halfway down page 4 when i left off
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Wow, quite a bit of drama here this morning. I read thru bdjuf's story and Chris' response and I have to say the fact that Chris won't negotiate over the phone is rather disconcerning but I suppose after dealing with bdjuf's partner its plausible. Either way, if you're both in vegas it should be worth exploring having a sit down with each other to work this out. Hopefully you both can get this resolved.
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I hate working with scumbags like that... makes you fuckin think twice before dealing with anyone unless you know them very well...
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If $8k means anything to you, you definately are in the wrong business. You won't even be able to afford lawyers or anything when you need them.
I think the people who get to the point where $8k doesn't mean much didn't get to that point by letting people scam them out of $8k (not saying they did, just for the sake of argument). $8k is a lot of money to anyone and I couldn't imagine seeing anyone sit back and say "shucks" and move on.

I work and have worked mostly in mainstream with many large companies companies, including contract work for companies like Microsoft. They are very tough to deal with and they demand that they get what they pay for regardless of the cost/work. Try spending a few bucks on Google Adwords and giving them a bad credit card. They'll shit down your throat till they get it.

I just can't find one example of a succesful company that will throw thousands of dollars around and not care. Regardless of if you are a millionaire or not, $8k buys a lot of shit and is not something to take lightly.
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I think the people who get to the point where $8k doesn't mean much didn't get to that point by letting people scam them out of $8k (not saying they did, just for the sake of argument). $8k is a lot of money to anyone and I couldn't imagine seeing anyone sit back and say "shucks" and move on.

I work and have worked mostly in mainstream with many large companies companies, including contract work for companies like Microsoft. They are very tough to deal with and they demand that they get what they pay for regardless of the cost/work. Try spending a few bucks on Google Adwords and giving them a bad credit card. They'll shit down your throat till they get it.

I just can't find one example of a succesful company that will throw thousands of dollars around and not care. Regardless of if you are a millionaire or not, $8k buys a lot of shit and is not something to take lightly.
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I take it budjuf's friend is the cause of all of the problems here.
Honestly, I think Split did the right thing. The way it's being dealth with is something else.
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