Splitinfinity ripped me off for $8000 (DRAMA) - Page 15 - GoFuckYourself.com

JFK · 12-23-2005, 07:58 PM

700.................Dramas

Daruma · 12-23-2005, 08:00 PM

by the size of this thread it would have been a lot cheaper and less headache to settle for the inital $8k and take a loss

Tempest · 12-23-2005, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex

Tempest, you should read a little more closely too: Those same boxes that apprently did nothing also generated 350 spam complaints in less than 2 hours - and appear to have gotten an entire class C tossed as a result.

Please read all the posts, not just the ones from people you like.

Alex

ummmm.. yeah.. perhaps it's you that needs to read everything again... I'll say it one more time... bdjuf said that ALL THEY did on the 4 servers they had access to and that were online was to update the OS.... SI said that everything bdjuf said was 100% correct... SI also said there were more servers up and running than just those 4 and that "maybe" some could have been hacked or something.... So... no where in any of the information we have do we know WHO was doing the spamming. For all we know if could have been some "rogue employee" inside SI... Read again friend..

Tempest · 12-23-2005, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex

I also don't think that an XBiz award winning host should be supporting spammers or enterprises that depend on spam to make money. There would be appear to be a whole ton of wrong and very little right going on here.

Alex

ROTFL.... oh my god, that's one of the funniest things I've read in a long time...

crockett · 12-23-2005, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SplitInfinity

Just in case you missed the drama in this thread, here it is too:

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/551272-splitinfinity-ann-voip-services-beta-testers.html

Shit your still pushing that.. Hell I was like the 7th guy in that topic to give you a reply and have sent off two e-mails. Meanwhile I see guys that didn't post until the second page are already posting how they are set up and using it.

It's no biggie I just figured you would at the very least reply to one of my two e-mails. I'm really not meaning to complain because it was free afterall. I just don't know why you are pushing for more beta users when you can't even contact the people that sent you e-mails 11 days ago.

BTW the drama with BJUF seems pretty lame.. I'm only up to page 8 and the responses I've seen up until now from you have made your company look pretty bad.

First off you guys didn't get the servers up in the amount of time you said you would.. That's strike one..

Then you claim you were fined yet won't show them any proof. Strike two..

Then you give him the run around claiming you are going to send him his money yet he waits months on top of months.. You even admit to this in one of your posts and are now trying to act like he's your buddy and he should come to you to work it out.. Ummm sounds like 100% Bull Shit to me.. Strike 3

Hell there are at least a few more strikes aginst you but it's not worth it, I think everyone sees what is going on here.

jonesy · 12-23-2005, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Listen up idiot. I go to shows to have fun and conduct business. That is why you will see me hanging out with program owners and 19 year old girls.

I have no need or desire to hang out with fat 19 year old techs. Nothing against you, but you have nothing to offer. I have read your posts and know enough about you to know that we have nothing in common, and you are the type that will never listen to others unless they are saying what you want to hear.

Piece of advice, learn from your mistakes, but whenever possible, learn from the mistakes of others.

Now, if you can figure out what I am referring to you can thank me now, or come up to me in 3 years and tell me I was right.

what happened to the cool old biker dude that helped people out? this post was made by a fucking smug old man who sounds like he believes his own hype.

you think your teaching this kid anything by being an asshole to him?

what joel just learned from you is its bad business to piss on people and be a self rightous asshole who cant say hello or make an acknowledgement to a person because theyre thought of as being beneath contempt due to their stature or age?

fucking laughable coming from you.

take him under your wing old man - someone mustve done the same for you along the road!

SomeCreep · 12-23-2005, 08:48 PM

Huge thread.

Bdjuf, make sure to post the outcome.

quantum-x · 12-23-2005, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

Total Idiot.

I'm a total idiot?
We've had this problem before Alien, you don't know who I am. Not that you should care. Debate the subject, not the person, and maybe then I'll care for your malinformed opinion.

gkremen · 12-23-2005, 09:28 PM

I loan him money at least three times and had no problem

Gary Kremen

pornstar2pac · 12-23-2005, 09:35 PM

10,000 views and a post from Gary. what more can you ask for in a thread!

sonofsam · 12-23-2005, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gkremen

I loan him money at least three times and had no problem

Gary Kremen

What's your point exactly? that has nothing to do with the issue at hand..

stop doing the "top notch guy" thing

i'm sure he WOULD pay you back, it's not like he wants to move to Mexico and get all his assets seized

RawAlex · 12-23-2005, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempest

ummmm.. yeah.. perhaps it's you that needs to read everything again... I'll say it one more time... bdjuf said that ALL THEY did on the 4 servers they had access to and that were online was to update the OS.... SI said that everything bdjuf said was 100% correct... SI also said there were more servers up and running than just those 4 and that "maybe" some could have been hacked or something.... So... no where in any of the information we have do we know WHO was doing the spamming. For all we know if could have been some "rogue employee" inside SI... Read again friend..

Tempest, I read plenty closely. If you were paying attention, you will see that (1) what bdjuf and SI say happened is different, (2) 350 spam complaints came in within 2 hours, (3) SI suffered some sort of issue that lead to a fine from a third party as a result of this spam, and (4) bdjuf has agreed to pay the fine if the bill or other proof is forthcoming.

I can add up 2+2. Can you?

Alex

sonofsam · 12-23-2005, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex

Tempest, I read plenty closely. If you were paying attention, you will see that (1) what bdjuf and SI say happened is different, (2) 350 spam complaints came in within 2 hours, (3) SI suffered some sort of issue that lead to a fine from a third party as a result of this spam, and (4) bdjuf has agreed to pay the fine if the bill or other proof is forthcoming.

I can add up 2+2. Can you?

Alex

(2) (3) (4) is SI's problem, they knew he was spamming and took the risk.

the only reason bdjuf is willing to take any loss by paying a portion of the fine, is because he just wants to recover as much money as he possibly can, because he doesn't think they'll pay him any other way

RawAlex · 12-23-2005, 10:03 PM

sonofsam, at the end of the day, it doesn't change the basic fact that no reputable "award winning" host should be in the business of supporting mailers that violate the laws of the state they are in.

I have a feeling that at least part of (2) (3) and (4) may potential have come due to incomplete disclosure of operations and mailer style.

Alex

Tempest · 12-23-2005, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex

Tempest, I read plenty closely. If you were paying attention, you will see that (1) what bdjuf and SI say happened is different, (2) 350 spam complaints came in within 2 hours, (3) SI suffered some sort of issue that lead to a fine from a third party as a result of this spam, and (4) bdjuf has agreed to pay the fine if the bill or other proof is forthcoming.

I can add up 2+2. Can you?

Alex

You're reading between the lines.. I'm looking at what was said and confirmed. I see SI saying that there's "other things" they won't disclose or discuss, but they also confirmed that 100% of what bdjuf said was correct and no where did bdjuf say they used the servers for their intended purpose. Therefore, either they're all lieing or someone else did the spam.

There is a "disconnect" in some of the info and we can all assume whatever we want. Doesn't change a thing. At the end of the day SI lied multiple times and strung out a customer for months. None of us put up with that sort of treatment. We take our business elsewhere.

Translation · 12-23-2005, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex

sonofsam, at the end of the day, it doesn't change the basic fact that no reputable "award winning" host should be in the business of supporting mailers that violate the laws of the state they are in.

I have a feeling that at least part of (2) (3) and (4) may potential have come due to incomplete disclosure of operations and mailer style.

Alex

you are also known as a bit of a fanatical antispammer kook, so your opinion is biased and worthless on this.

RawAlex · 12-23-2005, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Translation

you are also known as a bit of a fanatical antispammer kook, so your opinion is biased and worthless on this.

.... and you are a fool hiding behind a nick. Nothing to add there.

"fanatical"... GFY.

Alex

clickclickclick · 12-23-2005, 10:47 PM

send me money, i promise million server and 200 virgin

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 12-23-2005, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex

.... and you are a fool hiding behind a nick. Nothing to add there.

"fanatical"... GFY.

Alex

LOL

Nice one Alex.

Ya goto Love and respect all the defenders of spam using fake nics in this cluster fuckwad thread trying justify criminal activities.

Sarcasm.

Krille · 12-23-2005, 10:59 PM

bump for shitty host and a kidspammer

webgurl · 12-23-2005, 11:02 PM

I read every single post on this thread , I will still continue
to support Split infinity and continue with my great service there .

clickclickclick · 12-23-2005, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webgurl

I read every single post on this thread , I will still continue
to support Split infinity and continue with my great service there .

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darksoul · 12-23-2005, 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex

sonofsam, at the end of the day, it doesn't change the basic fact that no reputable "award winning" host should be in the business of supporting mailers that violate the laws of the state they are in.

Seriously, do you still think those awards have any meaning at all ?
Its no news SI supports mailers and it wasn't news years ago.

Juicy D. Links · 12-23-2005, 11:53 PM

I am a top notch guy and good looking

Juicy D. Links · 12-23-2005, 11:53 PM

my take on this

8k owed

This thread alone will cause over 8k in lost business my 2 cents

Juicy D. Links · 12-23-2005, 11:55 PM

he spams he spams whatever he chooses

thread is about money owed and false promises

4 months or so is 2 long. 8k might be chump change for people but 8k can buy alot of tattoo work

darksoul · 12-23-2005, 11:58 PM

It doesn't matter how much it is jerking around with your customers its a no go for anyone that wants to run a business.
But since Split runs on scams I doubt we can call it a business.

xclusive · 12-23-2005, 11:59 PM

nice 15 pages like I predicted

pornstar2pac · 12-24-2005, 12:07 AM

this has to be the biggest thread of the week by far

Juicy D. Links · 12-24-2005, 12:08 AM

pornstar2pac · 12-24-2005, 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

damn, that looks so good right now

Juicy D. Links · 12-24-2005, 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornstar2pac

damn, that looks so good right now

i took one know

SplitInfinity · 12-24-2005, 12:34 AM

Let me set the record straight....

#1 I never lied to BDJuff
#2 I never dodged his phone calls
#3 I never said those servers were hacked. In fact the server order was only *some*
of his servers. Did you guys possibly consider he had other servers running?
#4 Everyone is commenting on an issue they will never know all the details to.
#5 ....

SplitInfinity Networks does NOT support spammers.
We have had our run in with them in the past, and perhaps made some money
from them in the early 90's however have not condoned actual "spam" for quite
some time. Spammers do slip through the cracks, false names and identities and
stuff... they have the "lets run with it till they catch us" approach.

I respect BDJuff and will not tarnish his name. This issue was a personal argument
gone astray and has now been rectified with negotiation between him and I.

In the end, no matter what, I did not rip anyone off, I mereley negotiated a fair
exchange that would satisfy both parties. If BDJuff was not happy with the outcome
im sure he would mention that fact.

But for now, all you false accusers and fake nicks, competitors and otherwise who post unsubstantiated facts and fiction should cease your prodding. I see many people
talking out of the side of their face and that is just disgusting.

Quit pissing on BDJuff for things you no nothing about. Like I said, there are details of this argument that you all will *never* know.

Now, there are certain people in this thread posting things that are against us and BDJuff and act like they are saints..... lets just say "dont make me go there" ok?

I dislike confrontation, but I had to speak to proclaim the facts.

I run a business and will handle matters as business matters, not some lunchtime
clique gossip.

This will be my last and final comment in this thread.

pornstar2pac · 12-24-2005, 12:46 AM

just give him back 8k - $2,500 and all will be fine

darksoul · 12-24-2005, 12:54 AM

So you're saying that epictrash are not spammers ?

baddog · 12-24-2005, 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradM

Alien: Leave this thread.
Bdjuf is a fantastically close friend of mine. Your comments are out of line. Stop posting or I stop being a troll. I can find out where you live without a problem. Yes I am threatning you.

Walk away.

You just never stop being an idiot, do you?

SplitInfinity · 12-24-2005, 01:02 AM

Actually yes epiccash is one of the most responsible companies I have ever dealt with. Every affiliate program has their run in's with spammers, its how they deal with it that seperates them from the rest.

Epiccash gets my thumbs up always.
No drama, straight business is how Trey and Jim have always been.

pornstar2pac · 12-24-2005, 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog

You just never stop being an idiot, do you?

i havn't said this yet baddog, but merry christmas and have a great weekend

Hue G. Pness · 12-24-2005, 01:03 AM

On the first day of Christmas GFY gave to me a debate with Splitinfinity

On the second day of Christmas GFY gave to me 2 metrosexuals and a debate with Splitinfinity

On the third day of Christmas GFY gave to me 3 surfers posing as webmasters, 2 metrosexuals and a debate with Splitinfinity

On the fourth day of Christmas GFY gave to me 4 different debates in one thread, 3 surfers posing as webmasters, 2 metrosexuals and a debate with Splitinfinity

On the fifth day of Christmas GFY gave to me 5 personal threats, 4 different debates in one thread, 3 surfers posing as webmasters, 2 metrosexuals and a debate with Splitinfinity

On the 6th day of Christmas GFY gave to me 6 orly pictures,5 personal threats, 4 different debates in one thread, 3 surfers posing as webmasters, 2 metrosexuals and a debate with Splitinfinity

On the 7th day of Christmas GFY gave to me 7 fake nicks,6 orly pictures,5 personal threats, 4 different debates in one thread, 3 surfers posing as webmasters, 2 metrosexuals and a debate with Splitinfinity

On the 8th day of Christmas GFY gave to me 8 boasts of income, 7 fake nicks,6 orly pictures,5 personal threats, 4 different debates in one thread, 3 surfers posing as webmasters, 2 metrosexuals and a debate with Splitinfinity

On the 9th day of Christmas GFY gave to me 9 "50" posts, 8 boasts of income, 7 fake nicks,6 orly pictures,5 personal threats, 4 different debates in one thread, 3 surfers posing as webmasters, 2 metrosexuals and a debate with Splitinfinity

On the 10th day of Christmas GFY gave to me 10 sig whores, 9 "50" posts, 8 boasts of income, 7 fake nicks,6 orly pictures,5 personal threats, 4 different debates in one thread, 3 surfers posing as webmasters, 2 metrosexuals and a debate with Splitinfinity

On the 11th day of Christmas GFY gave to me 11 usless Juicy posts,10 sig whores, 9 "50" posts, 8 boasts of income, 7 fake nicks,6 orly pictures,5 personal threats, 4 different debates in one thread, 3 surfers posing as webmasters, 2 metrosexuals and a debate with Splitinfinity

On the 12th day of Christmas GFY gave to me 12 people talking out of thier asses, 11 usless Juicy posts,10 sig whores, 9 "50" posts, 8 boasts of income, 7 fake nicks,6 orly pictures,5 personal threats, 4 different debates in one thread, 3 surfers posing as webmasters, 2 metrosexuals and a debate with Splitinfinity

Sorry I was bored

SplitInfinity · 12-24-2005, 01:04 AM

OMG that was so fucking funny I spit my drink out! Wow! Very creative. I enjoyed it.

Merry Christmas!

Note: I said that was my last post in this thread, but that song needed comment! :-) Well done.

:-)

Hue G. Pness · 12-24-2005, 01:09 AM

Hey I just noticed I broke 1000 posts. Took me long enough.

baddog · 12-24-2005, 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornstar2pac

i havn't said this yet baddog, but merry christmas and have a great weekend

Thanks, you too.

SplitInfinity · 12-24-2005, 01:14 AM

Congrats Hue!

aflex · 12-24-2005, 01:21 AM

my 2cents.... joel from split infinity seems like a nice guy but seems somewhat brainwashed into thinking he is onto a path of success with the webhosting thing.. i think the dude that runs Split Infinity is cutting costs by having a tech/sales guy rolled into one and promising this young guy the world..

oh yeah, where was the fucking contract/invoice/purchase order in this deal? 8k under the table seems fishy to begin with

SplitInfinity · 12-24-2005, 01:25 AM

"my 2cents.... joel from split infinity seems like a nice guy but seems somewhat brainwashed into thinking he is onto a path of success with the webhosting thing.. i think the dude that runs Split Infinity is cutting costs by having a tech/sales guy rolled into one and promising this young guy the world..

oh yeah, where was the fucking contract/invoice/purchase order in this deal? 8k under the table seems fishy to begin with
"

I have known Joel since he was a child. I used to babysit him. He rocks.
And why would you limit him to hosting? He has a much bigger brain than just that.

He is an awesome conversationalist, 3d artist, tech, musician, studio engineer, idea maker and then some. He is a good part of the team.

spunkmaster · 12-24-2005, 01:27 AM

Fucking 10 pages !

aflex · 12-24-2005, 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SplitInfinity

"my 2cents.... joel from split infinity seems like a nice guy but seems somewhat brainwashed into thinking he is onto a path of success with the webhosting thing.. i think the dude that runs Split Infinity is cutting costs by having a tech/sales guy rolled into one and promising this young guy the world..

oh yeah, where was the fucking contract/invoice/purchase order in this deal? 8k under the table seems fishy to begin with
"

I have known Joel since he was a child. I used to babysit him. He rocks.
And why would you limit him to hosting? He has a much bigger brain than just that.

He is an awesome conversationalist, 3d artist, tech, musician, studio engineer, idea maker and then some. He is a good part of the team.

awesome reply.. now how about answering what i highlighted?

Hue G. Pness · 12-24-2005, 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SplitInfinity

OMG that was so fucking funny I spit my drink out! Wow! Very creative. I enjoyed it.

Thanks. Creativity is my middle name. I do all sorts of writing and if anyone needs creative text I am the guy. I'll admit spoofing 12 Days is not really that creative. Anyway, I have some free time and if you need creative text done hit me up on ICQ. I enjoy doing it and will do it on the cheap just because I'm that sort of nice.

ICQ 34 281 307

prodiac · 12-24-2005, 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hue G. Pness

Thanks. Creativity is my middle name.

Your middle initial is G. how does that work?

Hue G. Pness · 12-24-2005, 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by prodiac

Your middle initial is G. how does that work?

G = gifted which falls under the blanket of creative. :D

Plus Hue. C. Pness would not be near as funny now would it?

12-23-2005, 07:58 PM	#701
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12-23-2005, 08:00 PM	#702
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12-23-2005, 08:48 PM	#707
SomeCreep :glugglug Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Where the Wild Things Are Posts: 26,118	Huge thread. Bdjuf, make sure to post the outcome. __________________ Webair Hosting I use and recommend Webair for hosting.

12-23-2005, 09:28 PM	#709
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12-23-2005, 09:35 PM	#710
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12-23-2005, 10:03 PM	#714
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	sonofsam, at the end of the day, it doesn't change the basic fact that no reputable "award winning" host should be in the business of supporting mailers that violate the laws of the state they are in. I have a feeling that at least part of (2) (3) and (4) may potential have come due to incomplete disclosure of operations and mailer style. Alex

12-23-2005, 10:47 PM	#718
clickclickclick Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,227	send me money, i promise million server and 200 virgin __________________ if you need more than 3 clicks to get to a join page, something is wrong ;) p.s. i still bring the sales whores here.

12-23-2005, 10:59 PM	#720
Krille Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Bangkok Posts: 2,436	bump for shitty host and a kidspammer

12-23-2005, 11:02 PM	#721
webgurl Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Clouds with Carebears Posts: 7,954	I read every single post on this thread , I will still continue to support Split infinity and continue with my great service there .

12-23-2005, 11:53 PM	#724
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	I am a top notch guy and good looking

12-23-2005, 11:53 PM	#725
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	my take on this 8k owed This thread alone will cause over 8k in lost business my 2 cents

12-23-2005, 11:55 PM	#726
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	he spams he spams whatever he chooses thread is about money owed and false promises 4 months or so is 2 long. 8k might be chump change for people but 8k can buy alot of tattoo work

12-23-2005, 11:58 PM	#727
darksoul Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: /root/ Posts: 4,997	It doesn't matter how much it is jerking around with your customers its a no go for anyone that wants to run a business. But since Split runs on scams I doubt we can call it a business. __________________ 1337 5y54\|)m1n: 157717888 BM-2cUBw4B2fgiYAfjkE7JvWaJMiUXD96n9tN Cambooth

12-23-2005, 11:59 PM	#728
xclusive Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 35,218	nice 15 pages like I predicted __________________ I support MediumPimpin.com / Shemp's Outlawtgp.com /

12-24-2005, 12:07 AM	#729
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12-24-2005, 12:08 AM	#730
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992

12-24-2005, 12:34 AM	#733
SplitInfinity Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 3,047	Let me set the record straight.... #1 I never lied to BDJuff #2 I never dodged his phone calls #3 I never said those servers were hacked. In fact the server order was only some of his servers. Did you guys possibly consider he had other servers running? #4 Everyone is commenting on an issue they will never know all the details to. #5 .... SplitInfinity Networks does NOT support spammers. We have had our run in with them in the past, and perhaps made some money from them in the early 90's however have not condoned actual "spam" for quite some time. Spammers do slip through the cracks, false names and identities and stuff... they have the "lets run with it till they catch us" approach. I respect BDJuff and will not tarnish his name. This issue was a personal argument gone astray and has now been rectified with negotiation between him and I. In the end, no matter what, I did not rip anyone off, I mereley negotiated a fair exchange that would satisfy both parties. If BDJuff was not happy with the outcome im sure he would mention that fact. But for now, all you false accusers and fake nicks, competitors and otherwise who post unsubstantiated facts and fiction should cease your prodding. I see many people talking out of the side of their face and that is just disgusting. Quit pissing on BDJuff for things you no nothing about. Like I said, there are details of this argument that you all will never know. Now, there are certain people in this thread posting things that are against us and BDJuff and act like they are saints..... lets just say "dont make me go there" ok? I dislike confrontation, but I had to speak to proclaim the facts. I run a business and will handle matters as business matters, not some lunchtime clique gossip. This will be my last and final comment in this thread.

12-24-2005, 12:46 AM	#734
pornstar2pac Omaha Hi/Lo Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 17,380	just give him back 8k - $2,500 and all will be fine __________________ Trump haters gonna hate. that's all they can do

12-24-2005, 12:54 AM	#735
darksoul Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: /root/ Posts: 4,997	So you're saying that epictrash are not spammers ? __________________ 1337 5y54\|)m1n: 157717888 BM-2cUBw4B2fgiYAfjkE7JvWaJMiUXD96n9tN Cambooth

12-24-2005, 01:02 AM	#737
SplitInfinity Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 3,047	Actually yes epiccash is one of the most responsible companies I have ever dealt with. Every affiliate program has their run in's with spammers, its how they deal with it that seperates them from the rest. Epiccash gets my thumbs up always. No drama, straight business is how Trey and Jim have always been.

12-24-2005, 01:03 AM	#739
Hue G. Pness Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Variable Posts: 1,237	On the first day of Christmas GFY gave to me a debate with Splitinfinity On the second day of Christmas GFY gave to me 2 metrosexuals and a debate with Splitinfinity On the third day of Christmas GFY gave to me 3 surfers posing as webmasters, 2 metrosexuals and a debate with Splitinfinity On the fourth day of Christmas GFY gave to me 4 different debates in one thread, 3 surfers posing as webmasters, 2 metrosexuals and a debate with Splitinfinity On the fifth day of Christmas GFY gave to me 5 personal threats, 4 different debates in one thread, 3 surfers posing as webmasters, 2 metrosexuals and a debate with Splitinfinity On the 6th day of Christmas GFY gave to me 6 orly pictures,5 personal threats, 4 different debates in one thread, 3 surfers posing as webmasters, 2 metrosexuals and a debate with Splitinfinity On the 7th day of Christmas GFY gave to me 7 fake nicks,6 orly pictures,5 personal threats, 4 different debates in one thread, 3 surfers posing as webmasters, 2 metrosexuals and a debate with Splitinfinity On the 8th day of Christmas GFY gave to me 8 boasts of income, 7 fake nicks,6 orly pictures,5 personal threats, 4 different debates in one thread, 3 surfers posing as webmasters, 2 metrosexuals and a debate with Splitinfinity On the 9th day of Christmas GFY gave to me 9 "50" posts, 8 boasts of income, 7 fake nicks,6 orly pictures,5 personal threats, 4 different debates in one thread, 3 surfers posing as webmasters, 2 metrosexuals and a debate with Splitinfinity On the 10th day of Christmas GFY gave to me 10 sig whores, 9 "50" posts, 8 boasts of income, 7 fake nicks,6 orly pictures,5 personal threats, 4 different debates in one thread, 3 surfers posing as webmasters, 2 metrosexuals and a debate with Splitinfinity On the 11th day of Christmas GFY gave to me 11 usless Juicy posts,10 sig whores, 9 "50" posts, 8 boasts of income, 7 fake nicks,6 orly pictures,5 personal threats, 4 different debates in one thread, 3 surfers posing as webmasters, 2 metrosexuals and a debate with Splitinfinity On the 12th day of Christmas GFY gave to me 12 people talking out of thier asses, 11 usless Juicy posts,10 sig whores, 9 "50" posts, 8 boasts of income, 7 fake nicks,6 orly pictures,5 personal threats, 4 different debates in one thread, 3 surfers posing as webmasters, 2 metrosexuals and a debate with Splitinfinity Sorry I was bored __________________ GFY Voice of Reason

12-24-2005, 01:04 AM	#740
SplitInfinity Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 3,047	OMG that was so fucking funny I spit my drink out! Wow! Very creative. I enjoyed it. Merry Christmas! Note: I said that was my last post in this thread, but that song needed comment! :-) Well done. :-)

12-24-2005, 01:09 AM	#741
Hue G. Pness Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Variable Posts: 1,237	Hey I just noticed I broke 1000 posts. Took me long enough. __________________ GFY Voice of Reason

12-24-2005, 01:14 AM	#743
SplitInfinity Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 3,047	Congrats Hue!

12-24-2005, 01:21 AM	#744
aflex Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: New Jersey - adaptweb at gmail.com Posts: 3,127	my 2cents.... joel from split infinity seems like a nice guy but seems somewhat brainwashed into thinking he is onto a path of success with the webhosting thing.. i think the dude that runs Split Infinity is cutting costs by having a tech/sales guy rolled into one and promising this young guy the world.. oh yeah, where was the fucking contract/invoice/purchase order in this deal? 8k under the table seems fishy to begin with __________________ self made mothafucka. buying premium domains & developed sites with revenue/traffic -> adaptweb at gmail.com

12-24-2005, 01:25 AM	#745
SplitInfinity Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 3,047	"my 2cents.... joel from split infinity seems like a nice guy but seems somewhat brainwashed into thinking he is onto a path of success with the webhosting thing.. i think the dude that runs Split Infinity is cutting costs by having a tech/sales guy rolled into one and promising this young guy the world.. oh yeah, where was the fucking contract/invoice/purchase order in this deal? 8k under the table seems fishy to begin with " I have known Joel since he was a child. I used to babysit him. He rocks. And why would you limit him to hosting? He has a much bigger brain than just that. He is an awesome conversationalist, 3d artist, tech, musician, studio engineer, idea maker and then some. He is a good part of the team.

12-24-2005, 01:27 AM	#746
spunkmaster Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 2,052	Fucking 10 pages ! __________________