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Originally Posted by Mutt
(Post 20393329)
Imagine if he's telling the truth.
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You just said the most important word.
"imagine".
This is why psychopaths, sociopaths, anti social personalities and so on are all around us. We are surrounded by them. They move around us and in and out of our lives, usually undetected. When they are, its almost ALWAYS the result of our distilling horrible behaviors and numerous red flags into something overly simple such as "he's selfish", "he's kind of a dick".
According to Psychologists like Martha Stout, sociopaths alone, make up 4% of people in the US and most agree that number is rising quickly (no shock for a "me, me, me" culture). According to people like Canadian criminal psychologist Robert Hare, who developed the well known industry standard for identifying and evaluating psychopaths "The Hare Checklist", claims many times in his book Without Conscience, psychopaths also are just as strong in numbers. Factor in other mental disorders such as narcissists, anti-social personalities, histrionic, borderline personalities and so on and you get a very depressing idea of how society composed and just how surrounded you are.
We all have these people in our lives. We all are related to some. We all come into contact with them daily. It's important to note that mental disorders such as these are not an all or nothing affliction. There are degrees and many many shades of gray. Also, psychopaths are not accurately portrayed in movies and I believe something like less than 1% are actually violent. For the most part, you might just notice a selfish dickhead that made plans with you and blew you off without warning, maybe even leaving you standing on the street at the agreed time, in front of the agreed place,... with no call or warning, simply because something better came up that interested him more. I know for a fact, you have friends exactly like that, who have absolutely no ability to evaluate or understand the needs of others and with a little sprinkle of charm, people mistake their selfish, self serving behaviors for kindness and generosity and even "friendship".
And you used the word that is the primary cause of our blindness to them
"imagine".
If you are a normally functioning person, you simply cannot imagine what is like to NOT feel empathy for others. You cannot imagine what it is like to not feel shame or guilt or remorse for your actions and behavior. You cannot imagine what its like to hurt someone and not feel bad about it. You cannot imagine what its like to do something criminal completely on impulse with no thought whatsoever about the future and possible consequences. You just cannot imagine what its like to be a psychopath because you cannot imagine what its like to have severely dysfunctional emotional processing when your's is in tact. You just cannot imagine what it is like to stare at a box of kittens on fire and crying in pain and only standing there to admire the beauty of the flames.
Donny is a sick person. His existence here has always been one of "look at me, look at me". He has no achievements. He's made no money. He's had no real successes. He's completely unattractive. He's abrasive. He's manipulative... and much more. What is wrong with him? Who knows. I would guess a lot of things, and a lot of overlapping mental disorders... but all of his mental and emotional deficiencies coupled with the dream of public speaking for a living, suggests a lot. Among other red flags, public speaking suggests a lot of things. Public speaking only comes easy to a small group of people. I'm not talking about people who have to do it... but people who actively want to do it. Thats unique. That is a tell. Within the context of his behavior and having nothing to say but what he admitted upfront was going to be a lie, lying without conscience and standing up and speaking without any sort of shame, embarrassment to tell multiple lies over and over and over for his own personal gain (he's "born again", porn is dangerous etc etc etc etc) and at the expense of those listening and those he's worked with in the past, suggests that its pretty serious. The trouble is that all of those mental disorders overlap.. but there is no one here who has observed him, who can look up narcissistic, histrionic, sociopathic, psychopathic in the The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) and not think "holy shit... yup!... that's him". The fact that he chose that public speaking path told me right away "wow, he's likely a full blown sociopath"... but it could be a lot of things at once.
And people are shocked at his arguments, explanations and attempts at taking other people down. Guess what? All textbook behavior. He has no moral compass. He has no sense of right or wrong. At best, he only has a sense of "don't get caught". Once caught, if you truly have no sense of right or wrong or no moral compass whatsoever... how do you process whats happening? You do exactly what he did,... you come up with fantastic scenarios where your just a victim of unfair people and an unfair legal process. Guess what? probably 80% of all prison inmates have a similar story. "The system fucked me over", "My lawyer fucked me over", "The judge fucked me over", "The witnesses are all liars", "I was set up". This is why criminal psychologists usually study inmates. There is no greater collection of sociopaths and psychopaths that can be accessed under one roof.
Donny has said a lot. Really a lot.
What has he not mentioned?
The things left out, which really tell the story?
The things that an innocent person, a well functioning and emotionally healthy person would be most concerned about?
What are some things a true sociopath or psychopath won't authentically express?
Remorse. Guilt. Shame. Regret.
As I pointed out earlier... he feels no guilt, there no authentic sign of remorse, no empathy for the pain and suffering of others, nothing indicating that he is horrified that these girls will be put through this. The investigations, the interrogations, the psychological evaluations, the rape tests, being ostracized by friends and families, having the whole town believe they were sleeping with a fat sloth, etc etc etc etc etc. If you (anyone) truly cared about these young girls and looked at them as daughters, your first thoughts would not be about a wild, improbable bullshit story trying to hurt as many people as possible as you told it. They would be able the girls, about the friends and family who have to endure this. Regret that his mother has to be put through what she has. Regret that the girls families are being put through this. Regret to the church and those he's preached to (and collected speaking fees from). A truly innocent person who is functioning well emotionally would only be thinking about all the people that are being hurt and feeling remorse and regret for being at the center of it and the cause of it, rightly or wrongly.... everything else, would come second.
And lastly.... i'll say it again.
The innocent deny.
Liars explain.
Donn'y continues to explain. Page after page after page.
It should be simple after all,... "did you do xyz?".... "oh my god!! of course not!". But for the guilty man, who is completely unhinged mentally, it isn't that simple at all.
