AWEmpire, enlighten us about this, please
 

As posted by someone from your staff on your own board:

This, to me, sounds like there will be zero recurring income for the webmaster, after 14 days. Please enlighten us about this, 'cause to me it looks like you're fooling webmasters to use the revshare option to promote you, while pocketing the recurring yourself. I'd love to be wrong on this though.

First a 14 day cookie is pretty weak. That said.

It sounds like they are saying if a member comes from your site and buys in the first 14 days you will get credit. If they buy on day 15 or later without revisiting your site you will not get credit for it. If the member unsubscribes and then rejoins without visiting your site again in those 14 days you will get no sale.

I would think the username is set into the database with the referrer next to it like most affiliate software packages

when someone makes a sale with the affiliate link the affiliate is attached to that person in any aff program backend until that user cancels, it has nothing to dow tih cookies after the sale is made

to me that just sounds like their tour cookie expires after 14 days, so after 14 days the affiliate won't get credit anymore

14 days is actually a lot more than most give.....it sucks, but it is true

Yeah I know, I just do not promote those that have short cookie times.

without asking, how do you find out?

here is one from a site I would love to know

can someone translate?

site-24
111111%23%232%23%23%23%23%23%23621034%23%23%23%230
url.com/
1536
2434176896
29776149
1976055264
29776141
*

You can find out if you use Mozilla Firefox and the Web Developer extension

Then do this:

Click on the link
Goto the paysite
Click on Cookies -> View Cookie Information and it will list all cookies for that domain
Check "Expires"

If you're using CCBill programs, make sure to type in http://refer.ccbill.com/ and click on View Cookie Information

yeah, that does suck. tracking with cookies is not a nice way to treat affiliates. You guys should come check out http://www.MooCash.com and beta test TriCams. I think you will do better with us. We track in the database. You will always keep your recurring sales.

Another way to check cookie lifetime is to use the tool at http://web-sniffer.net/

Put in the link and check the Set-Cookie HTTP header in the response, e.g.
Set-Cookie: cookie_wm_id=492553; expires=Sun, 09-Apr-2006 00:12:02 GMT; path=/

yeah, but what if the program is using mpa3 or something like it, where the link with the cookie is a redirect link?

I tried it for NSCash, I clicked on link from sponsor area, the paysite loaded and I went to nscash.com because thats where the cookie was set and the result was:

Name site-8
Value 104290%23%232%23%23%23%23%23%230%23%23%23%230
Host nscash.com
Path /
Secure No
Expires 06 April 2006 2:22:20 AM

Cookie set to expire in 1 hour.

I may be mistaken, but I think that's how it works, where are the HTTP geeks when you need them? :)

Sig spot!

Waithing for awe reply.

AWE is up front about this practice and it's not a mystery to those who promote them.

If you bother to read further regarding this topic (not sure where you got the quote from, but I know they discuss this thoroughly on their own board), you'll see they encourage webmasters to use the co-brand option so visitors bookmark or return to the original site. That way, they get flagged with your ID once they return.

No, it's not perfect but they aren't "scamming" or misleading anyone. They are also looking into other options for payouts including PPS. Again, you can see their own board for further reading on the topic.

I think you're wrong. Maybe you're mixing up people who made a purchase and got a permanent chat login (associated with the webmaster ID for life) with people who surfed around without ever having made a purchase in the first place and then coming back 45 days later.

Permanent cookies only. All other will now be purged from my affiliates.

WTF!!! :helpme

Here's how someone replied to the same post, on another board:

So, who read their terms properly? :)

WTF is with the programs and their bullshit lately? About to bounce the rent checks or something?

:thumbsup :thumbsup

gotta be that the 14 day cookie in question is just for the original signup - once you send a surfer to their cam site you have 14 days for that surfer to actually register and buy - i'd be shocked if it was what you are suggesting - that you only receive revshare on purchases for the first 14 days of your surfer's registration - they'd have no affiliates if that was the case.

i'll be perfectly honest . when i read the same thing i was a little peeved ( not much experience in the cam programs ) but you know what it all boils down to is $$$$$ , not how long the cookie lasts, Regardless of how they track customers the end result is a higher payout than with other cam programs in the same spot.. the proof is in the pudding with this one..

cam site revshare revenue is long term - if you are new to cam programs then you can't judge where they stand compared to other programs.

so now it seems like it is possible that revshare is cut off after 14 days even on a registered member you sent them? whoa would that suck huge.

i thought a lot of browsers only accept session cookies anyway

They are NOT upfront about it on their website it says nothing about.

Thats about as much information I could find.

Last I asked about it on this board, I asked if it was for 30 or 90 days and never got a response. I think I was told to contact them and ask for more information.
I doubt we will get a straight answer in this thread.

That is how it works.

I am a big cam promoter. I send a whale to their program ... I better be paid!

How do you know that?!? You just said you don't have much experience with cam programs. Anyone who's ever done cams knows that there's a lot of money to be made from recurring members, so if they cut off the recurring revshare after 14 days then the affiliate is mighty fucked out of his/her commission, quite simple.

Remember, in Hungary it's very early in the morning right now! Assuming this thread stays on the first page until they wake up, I have no doubt AWE will respond clearly and concisely as soon as they get the chance.

Yep, I'm sure they'll address this and clear any existing misunderstandings.

I've been sending traffic to AWE's Live Jasmin for 4 months now... 0 sales 0$ ... I make on average $3,000 a month with another very similar site to theirs :2 cents:

Your right, perhaps you got the wrong impression . i was saying i AM new to cam revshare, not new to cams. I should have also clarified that i was comparing awe revshare to pps cam programs not to other revshare programs ( because i DONT have experience with any other revshare cam programs

The point i was trying to make was that in my experience and my stats , the AVG per user ( even considering the 14 day cookie thing ) is higher than with any other pps cam program.. $50+

4 months ? , even as a promoter of AWE i would suggest trying a different program.. i dont understand why you would leave a spot that produced 12k up for 4 months if it wasnt producing.. perhaps your link code is wrong.. every program isnt for everyone but that sounds highly irregular

I like to try things out and see how they do, I didn't stop producing with the other affilate, but both were getting the same traffic sources, one produced, one didn't...

bump for cookies

Again (sig aside) HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT?

Remasterd thats a great tip! Thank you.

because i have tested them back to back with several pps programs..

So we have one person saying they do better and another saying they do worse. One of them is running them in his sig. Obviously the owners will be in here soon to tell me not to take your word for it, but to try them out for myself. :1orglaugh