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TheSenator 04-07-2006 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by chadglni
Well he likes to get the last word so if you all keep responding to him this thread could go on forever. :winkwink:

AWE has come out with it in public, which is a good thing.
I just feel kinda stupid that I assume rev share is for life.

I finally pulled my links.

Hopefully, they can change their terms in the future.

TheSenator 04-07-2006 02:15 PM

Working on quality post count....bump.

SmokeyTheBear 04-07-2006 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSenator
Working on quality post count....bump.

keep digging that grave ..:thumbsup

SmokeyTheBear 04-07-2006 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by lazycash
Exactly, it was answered on the first page, so why did it take me 5 pages to figure it out

cuz you have a hard time understanding english

lazycash 04-07-2006 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSenator
AWE has come out with it in public, which is a good thing.
I just feel kinda stupid that I assume rev share is for life.

I finally pulled my links.

Hopefully, they can change their terms in the future.

Don't feel stupid, I made the same assumption. I've looked at dozens and dozens of cam programs over the last 7 years and this is the first time I've heard of revshare not being for life.

Think about if a non-cam adult sponsor had a 50% revshare option. You'd naturally assume you got rebills for life, because thats always been the way adult sponsors work. Now, what if it was found out that a sponsor only gave the 50% revshare for the first three months, but decided not to disclose this to any of their webmasters. Once it was found out there would be an uproar and tons of pissed of webmasters, AWE did basically the same thing.

lazycash 04-07-2006 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
cuz you have a hard time understanding english

I guess you have to resort to changing my quotes when you can't answer my questions.

Kimmykim 04-07-2006 02:22 PM

5 pages and still no one has figured out how to decide what sponsor to use?

Wow.

SmokeyTheBear 04-07-2006 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by lazycash
Think about if a non-cam adult sponsor had a 50% revshare option. You'd naturally assume you got rebills for life, because thats always been the way adult sponsors work. .

might wanna look at those sites a bit closer.. :1orglaugh they dont pay you on upsells.. ever been on the inside of a revshare non-cam site ? most of them have upsells up the ying yang, and you dont get credit.. so if surfer signs up for a month you get 50% of that but he could rebill for 10 years and you aint getting a dime..

SmokeyTheBear 04-07-2006 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Kimmykim
5 pages and still no one has figured out how to decide what sponsor to use?

Wow.

They are already using awe , the rest just complain on gfy all day:1orglaugh

SmokeyTheBear 04-07-2006 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by lazycash
I guess you have to resort to changing my quotes when you can't answer my questions.

i thought i was rather funny i guess you didnt.. there was a point to it go read it again.. :1orglaugh

SmokeyTheBear 04-07-2006 02:28 PM

250 whiny bitches

TheSenator 04-07-2006 02:32 PM

251 whiny bitches

lazycash 04-07-2006 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
might wanna look at those sites a bit closer.. :1orglaugh they dont pay you on upsells.. ever been on the inside of a revshare non-cam site ? most of them have upsells up the ying yang, and you dont get credit.. so if surfer signs up for a month you get 50% of that but he could rebill for 10 years and you aint getting a dime..

Yes, i've been inside 100's of them, and I'm well aware of member's area upselling. What does this have to do with my post, nothing. I could care less what the sponsor does with my surfer inside their members area as long as he remains a member and I'm compensated. I'm well aware of shady sponsors who divert members to their other sites, but that has nothing to do with point. Why don't you tell me how my scenario is any different than what AWE did?

lazycash 04-07-2006 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
i thought i was rather funny i guess you didnt.. there was a point to it go read it again.. :1orglaugh

I've read, and you still haven't answered any of my questions.

DamageX 04-07-2006 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
you should learn to read you fucking retard , game on..

Show some courtesy, please, I am not your mother.

SmokeyTheBear 04-07-2006 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by lazycash
I've read, and you still haven't answered any of my questions.

guess you should go take english comprehension 101 :winkwink:

TheSenator 04-07-2006 02:50 PM

Lets get back to the point where AWE doesn't pay for rev share after 14 days.

SmokeyTheBear 04-07-2006 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSenator
Lets get back to the point where AWE doesn't pay for rev share after 14 days.

http://www.arnoldroth.com/images/dig...rave_cover.jpg

Gnus 04-07-2006 03:01 PM

So what your trying to say then is if you promote AWE you are digging your own grave because you don't get any revshare after 14 days? I would say so because you losing out on rebills.

Gary

TheSenator 04-07-2006 03:01 PM

Working on post count.... move on

TheSenator 04-07-2006 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Gnus
So what your trying to say then is if you promote AWE you are digging your own grave because you don't get any revshare after 14 days? I would say so because you losing out on rebills.

Gary


Yeah, digging your own grave because AWE doesn't pay after 14 days.

Smokey is making a good point.

SmokeyTheBear 04-07-2006 03:05 PM

an interesting side note to this thread,

The majority of people with cams in their sigs ( regardless of who the sponsor was ) has good things to say about awe.

The majority of the haters either dont have a sig or arent promoting a cam sponsor in their sig..

Kevsh 04-07-2006 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
an interesting side note to this thread,

The majority of people with cams in their sigs ( regardless of who the sponsor was ) has good things to say about awe.

The majority of the haters either dont have a sig or arent promoting a cam sponsor in their sig..

There are a few haters in this thread that I believe just go looking for threads to pounce on with their negativity. If they aren't bitching about something or someone I guess they don't feel fulfilled. Those that are doing well and generally happy with life don't resort to beating everything down. There's a few psychiatric terms for it but I won't go there :)

DamageX 04-07-2006 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
an interesting side note to this thread,

The majority of people with cams in their sigs ( regardless of who the sponsor was ) has good things to say about awe.

The majority of the haters either dont have a sig or arent promoting a cam sponsor in their sig..

Dude, if you're not a dumb fuck, you sure as hell try your hardest to appear to be one. Basically what you're saying is "I don't give a fuck if they're fucking webmasters up the ass for their rebills, I make good money with them, see sig!"

SmokeyTheBear 04-07-2006 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DamageX
Basically what you're saying is "I don't give a fuck if they're fucking webmasters up the ass for their rebills, I make good money with them, see sig!"


if your so inept , thats your conclusion , i dont know what to say :1orglaugh


you can continue to bash if you like , anyone who reads through the thread can see i generally agree with your points, i might not like the way you went about it , but hey thats just my 2 cents , i can live with that. Start making shit up and talking trash , and you will get the same in return

DamageX 04-07-2006 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
if your so inept , thats your conclusion , i dont know what to say :1orglaugh


you can continue to bash if you like , anyone who reads through the thread can see i generally agree with your points, i might not like the way you went about it , but hey thats just my 2 cents , i can live with that. Start making shit up and talking trash , and you will get the same in return

What shit am I making up? I just pointed to something that you just mentioned you happen to agree with. So either you need to lay off the pipe, or keep a constant line in your posts, kiss AWE's ass or bash whoever doesn't agree with their practice. You can't both brown-nose and point out their shitty practices. Make up your mind.

lazycash 04-07-2006 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
guess you should go take english comprehension 101 :winkwink:


My English is fine, since you don't want to address any of my questions or back up any of your claims, then I guess I'll take that as you aren't really interested in discussing the issue anymore.

SmokeyTheBear 04-07-2006 03:22 PM

the only real issue is that it should have been better disclosed in the t.o.s. rather than on the webmaster forum .. i can live with that , and im sure awe can live with that, they plan on changing the tracking method so its a moot point. everything else is just rhetoric and nitpicking based on a few haters , thats why you dont actually see anyone in this thread who has used them post any comparison stats or even something as simple as average member worth from their superior cam sponsors..

SmokeyTheBear 04-07-2006 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by lazycash
My English is fine, since you don't want to address any of my questions or back up any of your claims, then I guess I'll take that as you aren't really interested in discussing the issue anymore.

you dont have any points, i backed up any claim i made. learn to read i cant help you do that sorry.

whats your points ? shoot we are all ears ?

lazycash 04-07-2006 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevsh
There are a few haters in this thread that I believe just go looking for threads to pounce on with their negativity. If they aren't bitching about something or someone I guess they don't feel fulfilled. Those that are doing well and generally happy with life don't resort to beating everything down. There's a few psychiatric terms for it but I won't go there :)

I agree, Smokey felt compelled to bash other revshare cam programs which he admittedly isn't even familiar with.

lazycash 04-07-2006 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
you dont have any points, i backed up any claim i made. learn to read i cant help you do that sorry.

whats your points ? shoot we are all ears ?

Ugh, I've asked you three times for the "many" threads you claim AWE has made on gfy informing us of their 14 day policy. They don't exist and you can't find them.

lazycash 04-07-2006 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
the only real issue is that it should have been better disclosed in the t.o.s. rather than on the webmaster forum ....

Wonders never cease. Despite what you think, I don't hate AWE, I still have their links up, although after learning of their policy I won't be adding any new ones. I run tests all the time from the same traffic source and compare $/unique on large blocks of traffic. I compare stats a week after the traffic is sent and then again after 3 months. Last year when I tested 9 like cam programs AWE came in 7th at 2.7c/unique. Not bad, but nowhere near what I make with other programs. They are like all sponsors, they work better for some and not so for others. I wasn't here to bash AWE, i just felt that you were brushing off what many consider to be a huge amount of deception from a sponsor.

DamageX 04-07-2006 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
the only real issue is that it should have been better disclosed in the t.o.s. rather than on the webmaster forum .. i can live with that , and im sure awe can live with that, they plan on changing the tracking method so its a moot point. everything else is just rhetoric and nitpicking based on a few haters , thats why you dont actually see anyone in this thread who has used them post any comparison stats or even something as simple as average member worth from their superior cam sponsors..

You're starting to sound like a broken record. And you're still condoning dubious practices, since you keep defending them.

SmokeyTheBear 04-07-2006 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by lazycash
I agree, Smokey felt compelled to bash other revshare cam programs which he admittedly isn't even familiar with.

i didnt bash any cam sponsors, i merely stated my opinions based on my traffic. i can do that because i can do that. You can disagree, but dont put words in my mouth

SmokeyTheBear 04-07-2006 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DamageX
And you're still condoning dubious practices, since you keep defending them.

You obviously arent paying attention to anything written so i cant help you with that sorry . have fun shooting yourself in the foot.

BlackCrayon 04-07-2006 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
might wanna look at those sites a bit closer.. :1orglaugh they dont pay you on upsells.. ever been on the inside of a revshare non-cam site ? most of them have upsells up the ying yang, and you dont get credit.. so if surfer signs up for a month you get 50% of that but he could rebill for 10 years and you aint getting a dime..

i wouldn't promote revshare that had upsells or cross sales. seems sponsors are trying to fuck affiliates every way they can. are things in adult getting that bad? the only reason this isn't more of an issue is that most webmasters don't sign up themselves to check out the site first. its pretty much the same deal with awe, most webmasters won't check out their forum.

TheSenator 04-07-2006 04:20 PM

Here is what I am getting at.... It is not cleary stated that you only get rev share for 14 days after you send a surfer or customer.

AWE does not payout pass 14 days after you refer a customer to their program.

That is just plain shitty. I hope they change their policy but they can do whatever they want.

I want other webmaster to be aware that they only get 14 days worth of rev share.

justsexxx 04-07-2006 04:25 PM

I didn't read the whole thread. Let me 'guess' a resume.

OPTION 1
AWE ONLY pays the first 14 days of 'your' surfer. Every penny spent AFTER day 14 won't be added to YOUR account?

Is that the case?

or

option 2
The 'join' cookie is valid for 14 days, and when you send a surfer, he has 14 days to join so AWE knows he is 'yours' When he joins within these 14 days the surfer will be always 'yours' and you get revshare for live of this surfer

Okay what option is the right one?


If option 1, then damn, who would promote them!?

TheSenator 04-07-2006 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by justsexxx
I didn't read the whole thread. Let me 'guess' a resume.

OPTION 1
AWE ONLY pays the first 14 days of 'your' surfer. Every penny spent AFTER day 14 won't be added to YOUR account?

Is that the case?

or

option 2
The 'join' cookie is valid for 14 days, and when you send a surfer, he has 14 days to join so AWE knows he is 'yours' When he joins within these 14 days the surfer will be always 'yours' and you get revshare for live of this surfer

Okay what option is the right one?


If option 1, then damn, who would promote them!?

Option 1.
14 days of rev share then poof...AWE collects for the life of that customer.

justsexxx 04-07-2006 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSenator
Option 1.
14 days of rev share then poof...AWE collects for the life of that customer.

What a joke :Oh crap


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