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lazycash 04-06-2006 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
i didnt say they were the best... i said they were the best for ME
..

How do you know they are the best for you unless you try the other sponsors that offer the exact same thing they do? Much of what you have claimed in this thread is based on nothing but pure conjecture as you have admitted to hardly promoting any of the other revshare programs out there. It was fine for you to say that they are working good for you, but bashing other programs out there with silly comments like "boring camgirls" is ignorant. Just out of curiosity, what is your $/unique with AWE?

SmokeyTheBear 04-06-2006 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by lazycash
I've done dozens and dozens of tests over the last 6 years with my cam traffic, sending blocks of 10k of quality cam traffic from the same source to multiple cam sponsors. I'm a stats freak and I hate wasting my cam traffic on sponsors that don't produce. AWE has never really fared well in my tests, so I've always directed my traffic to other sponsors who produce me a higher $/unique.

good for you :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazycash
I thought Damage posed an excellent point, as I can assure you many of AWE's webmasters are unaware of their 14 day cookie policy.

i agreed , but then after explaining it to him and reading that he didnt even care about awe he just thought it was "funny" i realised he doesnt care about the answer or $$ or what it means he was just here to stir shit .

lazycash 04-06-2006 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by darksoul
I think I know the other cam sponsor :)

I'll tell you why they don't work for me.
First of all, I haven't seen one cent since two months
ago when my payment was due.
Their support is totally useless, all they answer "Its not my department"
They don't work at converting your free users, I'm registered with several
free accounts and in more than 6 months those accounts haven't got
at least one email to remind them to fucking login, pretty obvious they don't
care to make you money.

Um, there's tons of other revshare cam programs, get out and do some research and try them.

DamageX 04-06-2006 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
i agreed , but then after explaining it to him and reading that he didnt even care about awe he just thought it was "funny" i realised he doesnt care about the answer or $$ or what it means he was just here to stir shit .

You realized jack shit. I asked the question for the exact reason lazycash mentioned. It's deceptive and at this point anyone opting to promote them as revshare is being taken for a ride. Regardless of how much they paid for your sig.

darksoul 04-06-2006 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazycash
Um, there's tons of other revshare cam programs, get out and do some research and try them.

tons ?
lets be serious here
You name me 10 that are worth considering

SmokeyTheBear 04-06-2006 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazycash
How do you know they are the best for you unless you try the other sponsors that offer the exact same thing they do? ?

I have and thats why i posted what i did. I tried several other cam sponsors for roughly a year ( hardly enough to give any true accuracy but long enough for me to give my opinion ) some were revshare some were pps
Quote:

Originally Posted by lazycash
Much of what you have claimed in this thread is based on nothing but pure conjecture

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazycash
Just out of curiosity, what is your $/unique with AWE

cant tell you that offhand but i can tell you its above $50 per member $/unique is relative to the traffic

chadglni 04-06-2006 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
care to post the "better" sponsors ? i already stated im new at promoting cams( revshare) but im good at spotting tricks :)

as far as me commenting because of who is in my sig is simply not the case , and awe would be the first to tell you i brought up every single point damage-x did with awe BEFORE i put them in my sig, and on gfy , infact it might have even been my thread..

But hey do as you wish im not trying to sway your traffic , just your opinion..

cam sponsor or porn sponsor it boils down to $$$ , do a fair test and com e back with your results, if they are whack i will admit i was wrong.

I am a clickcash whore but 2 of the 5 signups I sent to Lars spent 5 figures the first year. Like someone said above there is no meaning 0 webcam programs paying 14 day revshare that will beat a lifetime revshare cam program. People here are still getting huge checks from promotions they did in 2001. Sure you might have made more money than the typical PPS but what is more, $60 - $100? You will never get someone that spends $240,000 a year if they only have 14 days to spend. I used $240,000 because pretty much every established cam program has a few rich guys spending that much per year.

lazycash 04-06-2006 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darksoul
tons ?
lets be serious here
You name me 10 that are worth considering

I'm not going to use this thread to pump other cam sponsors. Just look in one of the threads where someone asks for cam sponsors and you'll have about a third of whats out there. I can assure you there are at least 10quality cam revshare programs.

chadglni 04-06-2006 02:19 AM

On another note it is impossible to start today and compare AWE to other revshare programs if they are in fact only paying for 14 days of rebills. The reason being is you will get users spending money for 5 , 10 , ?????? years. You would have to wait until every last rebill died to do a true test and it's pretty obvious which one would come out ahead.

SmokeyTheBear 04-06-2006 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DamageX
You realized jack shit. I asked the question for the exact reason lazycash mentioned. It's deceptive and at this point anyone opting to promote them as revshare is being taken for a ride. Regardless of how much they paid for your sig.

Thats your opinion , and as i pointed out , SHOW me a revshare cam sponsor that pays for EVERYTHING a surfer purchases through your code for life and ill sign up under you.. regardless of who paid what for anything..

Your trying to insinuate because awe is in my sig that i'm trying to mislead you..

I could give 2 fucks less about what awe wants me to say, i speak my mind , and if i didnt my sig wouldnt be worth squat

take it leave it or piss on it , i could care less. :)

Theo 04-06-2006 02:21 AM

i agree with EVERYONE that posted so far here regardless if they do not agree with eachother

:)

chadglni 04-06-2006 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
Thats your opinion , and as i pointed out , SHOW me a revshare cam sponsor that pays for EVERYTHING a surfer purchases through your code for life and ill sign up under you.. regardless of who paid what for anything..

Your trying to insinuate because awe is in my sig that i'm trying to mislead you..

I could give 2 fucks less about what awe wants me to say, i speak my mind , and if i didnt my sig wouldnt be worth squat

take it leave it or piss on it , i could care less. :)

Cams.com, Camsense.com Mtree.com, BigCashCrew.com, MooCash.com off hand.

darksoul 04-06-2006 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by chadglni
On another note it is impossible to start today and compare AWE to other revshare programs if they are in fact only paying for 14 days of rebills. The reason being is you will get users spending money for 5 , 10 , ?????? years. You would have to wait until every last rebill died to do a true test and it's pretty obvious which one would come out ahead.

Obviously awe has no chance at beating lifetime revshare.
Heck you only need a few big spenders to make a load of cash.

SmokeyTheBear 04-06-2006 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chadglni
I am a clickcash whore but 2 of the 5 signups I sent to Lars spent 5 figures the first year. Like someone said above there is no meaning 0 webcam programs paying 14 day revshare that will beat a lifetime revshare cam program. People here are still getting huge checks from promotions they did in 2001. Sure you might have made more money than the typical PPS but what is more, $60 - $100? You will never get someone that spends $240,000 a year if they only have 14 days to spend. I used $240,000 because pretty much every established cam program has a few rich guys spending that much per year.

very true , its all about the traffic and how fast you want the cash i suppose.. as i said above i consider awe to be more of a bridge between pps and revshare sponsors.. it allows a revshare that pays off in a quicker time..

darksoul 04-06-2006 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by chadglni
Cams.com, Camsense.com Mtree.com, BigCashCrew.com, MooCash.com off hand.

I hope you're joking with bigcashcrew
I checked them out few months ago and they had like 5 bored girls online.
wtf

2HousePlague 04-06-2006 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel
i agree with EVERYONE that posted so far here regardless if they do not agree with eachother

:)


That is 100% Jedi -- :thumbsup


2hp

DamageX 04-06-2006 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
Your trying to insinuate because awe is in my sig that i'm trying to mislead you..

No, I'm saying that you jumped to their defense because of running them in your sig, which would not be the case if your sig had been sold to someone else. Thus you are biased. There are a few people in this thread who've been doing cams for years and they're all telling you 14 days recurring is horse shit, yet you stubbornly keep running your theory that you make more with AWE, which is, at best, laughable.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
I could give 2 fucks less about what awe wants me to say, i speak my mind , and if i didnt my sig wouldnt be worth squat

Don't bullshit a bullshitter. I know more about pull marketing than you'd ever dream.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
take it leave it or piss on it , i could care less. :)

I AM pissing on it. And you obviously care, otherwise you wouldn't have such a hard-on for defending what is obviously less than ethical and proven wrong by many in this thread. :)

chadglni 04-06-2006 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darksoul
I hope you're joking with bigcashcrew
I checked them out few months ago and they had like 5 bored girls online.
wtf

I'm just naming revshare cams I know of. Also the guy I know that promoted them had some nice stats last time I saw them.

I just looked and there are 25 live cams right now. It's a newer program and middle of the night.

DamageX 04-06-2006 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
very true , its all about the traffic and how fast you want the cash i suppose.. as i said above i consider awe to be more of a bridge between pps and revshare sponsors.. it allows a revshare that pays off in a quicker time..

ROTFL, you mean someone's beating the customer with a stick to spend faster? :1orglaugh

lazycash 04-06-2006 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darksoul
Obviously awe has no chance at beating lifetime revshare.
Heck you only need a few big spenders to make a load of cash.

That's what most of us are saying in this thread, however, Smokey has been trying to make a case otherwise.

woj 04-06-2006 02:28 AM

100.......... :glugglug

chadglni 04-06-2006 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by woj
100.......... :glugglug

Go to bed.

DamageX 04-06-2006 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazycash
That's what most of us are saying in this thread, however, Smokey has been trying to make a case otherwise.

Hey, cut him some slack, he's only speaking his mind. :)

darksoul 04-06-2006 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazycash
That's what most of us are saying in this thread, however, Smokey has been trying to make a case otherwise.

thats nonsense and can be verified by looking at the awe stats.
average per sale is 95 (the guy from the top)

DamageX 04-06-2006 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by chadglni
Go to bed.

I think that's where he is, right now.

chadglni 04-06-2006 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DamageX
I think that's where he is, right now.

Haha could be.

darksoul 04-06-2006 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by darksoul
thats nonsense and can be verified by looking at the awe stats.
average per sale is 95 (the guy from the top)

and it should be specififed that $95 means the total spending.
so your cut is 30% of that.

So we can safely say awe averages $30/sale.
Case CLOSED.

DamageX 04-06-2006 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darksoul
and it should be specififed that $95 means the total spending.
so your cut is 30% of that.

So we can safely say awe averages $30/sale.
Case CLOSED.

How's that beat the PPS payouts many cam sponsors do? How's that beat lifetime revshare?

chadglni 04-06-2006 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX
How's that beat the PPS payouts many cam sponsors do? How's that beat lifetime revshare?

Might have 2 or 3 sales in 14 days I guess.

2HousePlague 04-06-2006 02:35 AM

"X" is a variable, lest we forget - :)

2hp

Theo 04-06-2006 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2HousePlague



That is 100% Jedi -- :thumbsup


2hp

:drinkup

darksoul 04-06-2006 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX
How's that beat the PPS payouts many cam sponsors do? How's that beat lifetime revshare?

did I say it beats them ?

DamageX 04-06-2006 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chadglni
Might have 2 or 3 sales in 14 days I guess.

Most sponsors will offer more than $30 PPS.

darksoul 04-06-2006 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX
Most sponsors will offer more than $30 PPS.

correct, but thats not the only factor.
I could care less about cams $50 PPS because for me they convert like shit right now and I'm still waiting their payment since two months ago.
I convert 1:30 with awe and I'm fine with that.

SmokeyTheBear 04-06-2006 02:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX
No, I'm saying that you jumped to their defense because of running them in your sig, which would not be the case if your sig had been sold to someone else. Thus you are biased.

and im saying that isnt true.. your misinformed
Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX
There are a few people in this thread who've been doing cams for years and they're all telling you 14 days recurring is horse shit, yet you stubbornly keep running your theory that you make more with AWE, which is, at best, laughable.

perhaps you should try reading , i never said that THEY make more money i said I make more money and it isn't a "theory" its a FACT, one that you cant seem to understand.. nor can you understand there arent ANY people in this thread saying anything about horse shit..

I jumped in this thread as i pointed out because i had the same questions so i was trying to help , you werent looking for help you just wanted to stir shit.. so carry on.. stir away

DamageX 04-06-2006 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
and im saying that isnt true.. your misinformed


perhaps you should try reading , i never said that THEY make more money i said I make more money and it isn't a "theory" its a FACT, one that you cant seem to understand.. nor can you understand there arent ANY people in this thread saying anything about horse shit..

I jumped in this thread as i pointed out because i had the same questions so i was trying to help , you werent looking for help you just wanted to stir shit.. so carry on.. stir away

Gracious exit. So long. :)

V_RocKs 04-06-2006 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DamageX
As posted by someone from your staff on your own board:



This, to me, sounds like there will be zero recurring income for the webmaster, after 14 days. Please enlighten us about this, 'cause to me it looks like you're fooling webmasters to use the revshare option to promote you, while pocketing the recurring yourself. I'd love to be wrong on this though.

I am sure this has been answered 20 times by now...

But once more doesn't hurt...

REBILLS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH COOKIES!!!

darksoul 04-06-2006 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs
I am sure this has been answered 20 times by now...

But once more doesn't hurt...

REBILLS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH COOKIES!!!

you're misinformed.
REBILLS AT LIVEJASMIN ARE TRACKED WITH COOKIES.

DamageX 04-06-2006 02:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs
I am sure this has been answered 20 times by now...

But once more doesn't hurt...

REBILLS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH COOKIES!!!

I'm sure you've been told this before, but once more doesn't hurt. Try reading.

lazycash 04-06-2006 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
Your right, perhaps you got the wrong impression . i was saying i AM new to cam revshare

How can you claim they work the best for you, when you admittedly haven't tried hardly any other revshare cam programs? Before you try and compare them to other like programs, take a step back and actually start sending traffic to some other revshare programs.


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