WTF? :helpme

is he even a webmaster? thought he only messed with vbullentin and thought he was cool?

just an update: awe is still screwing their webmasters on rebills

but hey, they are "thinking" about changing the way they track rebills so dont worry about it, let em take as much money they can from their webmasters

Of course, that always makes it cool with people. :)

can some other camsponsor make a cobranded page named livejasmin so i can send my livejasmin elsewhere please?

I was checking other cam programs on the rev share thingy....

Can't find anything about losing rebills on my customers.


Any other cam rev share doing this or is AWE the only one.

you should pay close attention here...i asked nicely , if you want to continue to be a dick , just say the word

"You earn 20% commission on all sales forever! Don't miss this opportunity to expand your revenue generation." Courtsey of Cams.com

Pretty clear about their rev share terms.

I can't speak for every webmaster, but since the topic was beaten to death on their own board, I'd assume most know about it. Whether they made it clear or not we are still promoting them.

It's simple really: If you feel it's unfair, don't sign up. If you just found out and don't like it, pull your links and see if you make more somewhere else.

If anyone knows CamSense, they start at 10% lifetime. To me, that's way too low and well below competitors. However, they convert and retain well so I stick with them. In the end, it's your choice.

"This program offers you 30% revshare on all sales forever! " clearly stated.

Hey, another program that offers 30%.
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We pay 30% rev share for life! It is tracked by DataBase not some bullshit cookie system. Our stats kick ass over all others so you can really optimize AND we have a great list of sites.

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this is about how this thread can be summed up.. you either understand what " 14 days" is , or you dont and want to whine and complain, make up hypothetical scenario's and imaginary stats..

Go with who pays you the most .. if you want to listen to the advice of people you dont know on your finances because they cant understand english, go for it. dont say i didnt warn you.. :2 cents:

very classy...:disgust

Whats up?

Tell Errol to hit me up on ICQ later.

not sure but i just made $117 off awe today, doesnt give me the referrer. AWE is a good program IMO

Just imagine how much better it would be if you kept your customer for life.

and i would like a free blowjob with every sale..

get over it , if you dont understand what 14 days means your an idiot.. we get your point , but as has been pointed out several times ITS A DIFFERENT SYSTEM get it ? you either make $$ or you dont , its not a difficult concept to grasp.. no reason to cut off your nose to spit your face because you dont understand it..

I admire the way you have stuck with this, but you are stubbornly missing several points:

1. It's all very well saying "It's in their forum" and yes, AWE deserve a degree of credit for responding honestly when asked. But that information didn't appear in their forum until they were asked and it will soon scroll away. I couldn't find any mention of the subject anywhere else on their site, not even within their TOS.
2. Try to say "Recurring revenue for 14 days" without laughing: it's ludicrous. We may know from that CCBill situation better than to assume "for life", but even so...
3. The people at AWE are experienced enough to know that not a single affiliate would be likely to anticipate the limitations on their promise of recurring income. And experienced enough to know how few webmasters would use their forum: there simply isn't time to visit more than a handful. Put those two realities together and it is extremely difficult to believe they weren't being deliberately deceptive.

Sure the bottom line is important, but I get really fed up with people who use terms like "whine and complain" when anyone raises questions about dubious business practises. I have had 10 years in this business and I'm tired of the constant suspicion that some of my income quietly disappears here, some of it there: never mind the times when sponsors, payment processors or whoever simply stop paying.

We all work under that cloud yet every time someone bends or even breaks the "rules" there are always people queuing up to make excuses for them. We might as well hang out signs saying "Screw Me".

Well said... here here.

I can't blame Smokey. He is pretty straight up on every other issue except this one. I just hope AWE changes their way.

it was brought up on gfy several times , they responded with full disclosure,

he didnt raise a question he cut that from a forum that was easy to understand and posted it here because he thought it was "funny" , he was trying to bash them . A question is a question.

I basically agreed with most of the points brought up , but you have to take some of them with a grain of salt as they are given by people with their own agenda.

what it boils down to folks you can get 20-30% of nothing for life with lots of programs sharing cams

OR

or you can make real cash with an established webcam program like awe with quality feeds..

I have been promoting AWE since the days that they started with Livejasmin. I never had any trouble with them. Actually im doing pretty well with their program.

However I may have done better if they put the lifetime of their cookie a little higher.

For my own paysites I use cookies + when a member registers the referral remains with the webmaster for ever. Our cookies stay for 9 months....

Ouch! That lifetime recurring model would have been some nice extra chuck of cash. I am so tempted to post a screen cap of recurring members.

what people should really pay attention to in this thread is the people praising AWE , notice how quite a few of them are riding competing cam programs in their sig.. that should tell you something .. awe isnt for everyone , and its not a "catch all" solution to your cam traffic, its an established cam program that sells like hotcakes.. take the advice of people that know or the advice of people that dont..

The only one with an agenda here is you. I'm not the one flying them in my sig, this thread was created to get an official response (which I got) and inform fellow affiliates (which I hope I succeeded with). I don't give a flying fuck whether they used grease or not when they had you bend over for them, YOU STILL DO. Peace out. :)

Who wins???????

Best post in this thread and this sums it up. Smokey has admitted he is new to revshare cams and is unfamiliar with other programs but yet he continues to feel compelled to bash them. This statement alone tells me that Smokey knows nothing about other cam programs out there and probably shouldn't even be commenting in this thread.
"what it boils down to folks you can get 20-30% of nothing for life with lots of programs sharing cams
OR
or you can make real cash with an established webcam program like awe with quality feeds.."

The one thing you have been diligent about Smokey is finding and exposing sponsors who are cheating, deceptive and sneaky. First, show me the "many" other threads you elude to where the AWE 14 day cookie was discussed in detail on gfy, it hasn't been. Smokey, its not "most" other revshare cam programs that are for life, but "all" others. AWE is preying upon the fact that webmasters who promote cams automatically assume its lifetime revshare. They do not mention it anywhere on their site as Jay mentioned, this is deliberately deceptive as it should at least be mentioned in their terms and part of their program details.

Smokey, forget about which is a better cam program, that has nothing to do with what is being discussed. It would just be nice to at least hear you say that AWE should have been more forthright in conveying to webmasters this important part of their compensation. I feel like when a company that is in your sig is being discussed you lose all sense of objectivity, the same thing happened in the spa cash discussions.

you should learn to read you fucking retard , game on..

About as classy as your "the others have boring camgirls..." and
what it boils down to folks you can get 20-30% of nothing for life with lots of programs sharing cams

OR

or you can make real cash with an established webcam program like awe with quality feeds.."


Yep, real classy

Gald you can read.. is honesty bad ??
quote me you fucking liar, dont put words in my mouth or i will stick my foot in your ass. I didnt bash anyone , take a look in the mirror..
see above , dont make false assumptions..

"what it boils down to folks you can get 20-30% of nothing for life with lots of programs sharing cams
OR
or you can make real cash with an established webcam program like awe with quality feeds.."
Do i have to teach you to use the search feature.. ? cmon now dont play stupid..

hahahha
LEARN TO FUCKING READ try starting with the beginning of this thread..

The problem is, this is the only issue that is being discussed here, Smokey is the one who decided to bring up all these other issues that are irrelevent. The issue posed in the original post is regarding AWE's non disclosure of their 14 day cookie policy,thats it, it had nothing to do with which program will make you more and all this other bs. Smokey's insistence on discussing other issues has only made this thread stay on page1 and probably cost AWE a few dozen webmasters. I'm sure they wish Smokey would just keep quiet and let this thread die.

if you cant tellthe difference between dropping 6 links in a flame thread and not mentioning a name your stupider than you are sounding..

Don't you see the method of Smokey's genius.

He keeps on posting and responding to keep this thread alive.

Keeping this thread on top is doing alot of webmaster good.

it was answered on the first page you just cant understand english... there are no other issues other than people bashing the competiton, and inbred morons who cant read.

Well he likes to get the last word so if you all keep responding to him this thread could go on forever. :winkwink:

Lol, I quoted you in the post, why don't you read. Here it is again since you didn't get it: what it boils down to folks you can get 20-30% of nothing for life with lots of programs sharing cams

OR

or you can make real cash with an established webcam program like awe with quality feeds..."

I call that bashing other programs, but i'm sure you don't.

Here's another of your quotes " does AWE try to hide the way it operates ? no"

Bullshit again, they had to only talk about it when they got called out on their forum, its not listed anywhere on their site. Shouldn't a webmaster considering signing up for their program be informed of this before signing up?

I'm not assuming you don't know much about the revshare cam scene, you admitted it in this thread. My point is, why comment on other revshare programs when you have admitted to knowing little to nothing about them and have never promoted them?

I've searched and can't find the "many" threads you refer to where AWE has posted on gfy concerning their 14 day cookie policy. You made the claim, not I, so you find them.

lol doesnt everyone.. ?

I could care less i'm not employed by awe , and as i have repeated many times , i dont like this tracking method either.. i see no reason for everyone not to understand how it works.. everything else is just good advertising.. cam affiliates praising awe and haters not psting anything but drivel, who could ask for anything more.. especially when you have people with competiing cam sponsors in their sig praising awe in a flame thread..

I declare this thread over.

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Exactly, it was answered on the first page, so why did you feel compelled to bring up other issues? You've done more bashing of the competition than anyone in this thread and you want me to look in the mirror.:1orglaugh

congrats to the winners