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SBJ · 10-03-2008, 12:51 PM

wow sucks to be him

50!

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-03-2008, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by xxweekxx

omg all u fucking narrow minded fucks..

THE GIRLS AGREED/CONSENTED/WERE PAID.. seriously speaking

if i pay a girl money, and tell her im gonna shit on her, piss on her, then fuck her in the ass till she bleeds, and she agrees, how the fuck is that illegal??

people sell their body parts everytime for money.. its all about CONSENT.

Land of the free my ass?? IF i pay YOU AND YOU AGREE, WTF Is the problem.

RAPE is when you fuck a girl and she didnt consent, thast a crime.. now if i "pretend"to rape a girl but afterwards pay her, then wtf is the problem.. man fuck all you narrow minded fucks...republican sons of biatches

Well actually its like Paying someone to hurt themselves in some manor and putting it on video for the sake of free speech... This goes beyond Jack Ass type video.

And Actually many of the girls were not fully disclosed as to the exact nature of what was going to happen to them. Sure in some cases girls were told it can be violent or rough but those two words do not exactly give justice to what happened to some of these models.

However none of what we are talking has anything to do with why Max is Locked up. Max was locked up for distribution of these materials to places where they are prohibited. This discussion does not address that and we assume it's the violent nature of his videos. Reality is... Where he was selling the video's was the problem.

Rorschach · 10-03-2008, 12:54 PM

If a girl is genuinely crying and is in obvious distress, the technicality of money having changed hands doesn't make it any less forced. If, while Max is throatfucking her so she can't breath, she begs him to stop and he doesn't, that's rape. Payment doesn't make the issue of coercion any less real in the moment... It just means the girl is getting paid to get raped, rather than getting raped and no money changing hands.

Max made content for degenerates and it tarnished the image and ability of webmasters to operate legitimate businesses.

xxweekxx · 10-03-2008, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

Well actually its like Paying someone to hurt themselves in some manor and putting it on video for the sake of free speech... This goes beyond Jack Ass type video.

And Actually many of the girls were not fully disclosed as to the exact nature of what was going to happen to them. Sure in some cases girls were told it can be violent or rough but those two words do not exactly give justice to what happened to some of these models.

However none of what we are talking has anything to do with why Max is Locked up. Max was locked up for distribution of these materials to places where they are prohibited. This discussion does not address that and we assume it's the violent nature of his videos. Reality is... Where he was selling the video's was the problem.

ah gotcha then.. i stand corrected.. he shouldnt have sold videos where they werent allowed.. I thought he was going to jail for "rough" sex with models..

BlackCrayon · 10-03-2008, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

I do not think ya people realise what this guy did.

Good ridance MaxHardcore hope ya get ass raped in that place.

Theres way worse out there.

seeric · 10-03-2008, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

back story please?

those are serious looking faces.

i live here in the valley and some of the things i've heard about him don't make me want to be buddies with him.

anyway, good luck to him.

directfiesta · 10-03-2008, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by xxweekxx

ah gotcha then.. i stand corrected.. he shouldnt have sold videos where they werent allowed.. I thought he was going to jail for "rough" sex with models..

He didn't ship them, they did:

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How do you ship product?
All packages are discretely shipped out of the Los Angeles area via USPS (The Post Office) using Priority Mail. We ship to residential, business, postal centers, post office boxes, and military. We ship to the United States and various International destinations. We offer free domestic shipping to the United States on orders $100 or more. Orders domestically take about 3 days to process and 1-3 days to ship via Priority Mail. We ship Monday-Saturday with Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday being the heavier shipping days.

and they still do :

http://jadedvideo.com/Search?q=max+hardcore&x=0&y=0

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-03-2008, 01:07 PM

The worst part is that this is not over

There is a webmaster who post here and lives in the gainesville / ocala area and he along with his girlfriend are under investigation and the state / fed is building a case against him.

I work with a lot of lawyers and when I found out via the llegal grapevine that this person would soon be looking at an unbeatable case... I nearly shit my pants

...... then I laughed

If not for potential of being charged with obstruction of justice I might have warned him or put in a good word but the guy has never given me anything but a hard time

If you do not have an attorney... you should not be in this biz... a good attorney

stickyfingerz · 10-03-2008, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by xxweekxx

omg all u fucking narrow minded fucks..

THE GIRLS AGREED/CONSENTED/WERE PAID.. seriously speaking

if i pay a girl money, and tell her im gonna shit on her, piss on her, then fuck her in the ass till she bleeds, and she agrees, how the fuck is that illegal??

people sell their body parts everytime for money.. its all about CONSENT.

Land of the free my ass?? IF i pay YOU AND YOU AGREE, WTF Is the problem.

RAPE is when you fuck a girl and she didnt consent, thast a crime.. now if i "pretend"to rape a girl but afterwards pay her, then wtf is the problem.. man fuck all you narrow minded fucks...republican sons of biatches

You saved me a few minutes of posting. hehe

Ill add that porn is FUCKING FANTASY. Im not a fan of his films either, but as long as it is all consensual so be it.

Fucking porn morality police crack me up.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-03-2008, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by A1R3K

back story please?

those are serious looking faces.

i live here in the valley and some of the things i've heard about him don't make me want to be buddies with him.

anyway, good luck to him.

That was the day when Wiseman and Steve should have kicked the living shit out of that goon.

moneybiz · 10-03-2008, 01:09 PM

good I love good news.

stickyfingerz · 10-03-2008, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rorschach

If a girl is genuinely crying and is in obvious distress, the technicality of money having changed hands doesn't make it any less forced. If, while Max is throatfucking her so she can't breath, she begs him to stop and he doesn't, that's rape. Payment doesn't make the issue of coercion any less real in the moment... It just means the girl is getting paid to get raped, rather than getting raped and no money changing hands.

Max made content for degenerates and it tarnished the image and ability of webmasters to operate legitimate businesses.

From what I understood they have safe words they use, and he gives the models breaks during the shoots. There was a big thread about the video in question and Max answered to everyones questions back then.

stickyfingerz · 10-03-2008, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

Anyone know the guys name on the far right? I knew a guy that could be his twin. His first name was Rob I believe.

seeric · 10-03-2008, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

That was the day when Wiseman and Steve should have kicked the living shit out of that goon.

what did he do?

Honez · 10-03-2008, 01:17 PM

46 months in Club Fed. Wow

Honez · 10-03-2008, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Anyone know the guys name on the far right? I knew a guy that could be his twin. His first name was Rob I believe.

That's Bryan Y

directfiesta · 10-03-2008, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

From what I understood they have safe words they use, and he gives the models breaks during the shoots. There was a big thread about the video in question and Max answered to everyones questions back then.

You are 100% right

nation-x · 10-03-2008, 01:22 PM

I can't believe you stupid fucks are still defending this scumbag... I hope he thinks long and hard about his life. I watched a bunch of the stuff he filmed and some of it is just unreal... and clearly obscene. I will gladly accept your ridicule for standing up against shit like this. It's not porn... it's soft snuff. It's violence.

stickyfingerz · 10-03-2008, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Honez

That's Bryan Y

Ok boy he has a twin. hehe

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

You are 100% right

Just gets old when people throw shit around when they don't know the facts hehe.

stickyfingerz · 10-03-2008, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by nation-x

I can't believe you stupid fucks are still defending this scumbag... I hope he thinks long and hard about his life. I watched a bunch of the stuff he filmed and some of it is just unreal... and clearly obscene. I will gladly accept your ridicule for standing up against shit like this. It's not porn... it's soft snuff. It's violence.

Clearly obscene to who?

Darkland · 10-03-2008, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Clearly obscene to who?

Apparently you have never heard of Community Standards

You think it is illegal to ship to certain places for no fucking reason at all?

Mutt · 10-03-2008, 01:31 PM

why does everybody on this board have to miss the point on everything?

there are OBSCENITY LAWS in the United States, always have been always will be, and for the non-Americans going 'tsk tsk' your countries have obscenity laws on the books too and people are charged in your countries.

The American porn industry and its lawyers have been warning producers for years about 'extreme' porn and the risks in producing and marketing it - there's a list every distributor has with zip codes in areas not to send pornography into.

A jury of his peers found what Max Hardcore produces to be obscene - end of story. Nothing to feel bad about or feel sorry for him for.

If the federal government applied the law wrong in his case he can appeal.

HomerSimpson · 10-03-2008, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rorschach

If a girl is genuinely crying and is in obvious distress, the technicality of money having changed hands doesn't make it any less forced. If, while Max is throatfucking her so she can't breath, she begs him to stop and he doesn't, that's rape. Payment doesn't make the issue of coercion any less real in the moment... It just means the girl is getting paid to get raped, rather than getting raped and no money changing hands.

I agree to every word the above...

escorpio · 10-03-2008, 01:53 PM

He's a piece of shit. Fuck him.

Jim_Gunn · 10-03-2008, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

why does everybody on this board have to miss the point on everything?

there are OBSCENITY LAWS in the United States, always have been always will be, and for the non-Americans going 'tsk tsk' your countries have obscenity laws on the books too and people are charged in your countries.

The American porn industry and its lawyers have been warning producers for years about 'extreme' porn and the risks in producing and marketing it - there's a list every distributor has with zip codes in areas not to send pornography into.

A jury of his peers found what Max Hardcore produces to be obscene - end of story. Nothing to feel bad about or feel sorry for him for.

If the federal government applied the law wrong in his case he can appeal.

Mutt, the problem is that there isn't really an obscenity law. It's just some vague bullshit that some judges can apply to anyone at any time with no real guidelines that one can diligently follow with forewarning. Even the most vanilla porn could be considered obscene. And the idea that a porn movie could be legal in one area and obscene in another city or state is preposterous. Max didn't even ship the damn movie in question, another company did. I am not defending his content specifically, but the whole thing is a travesty of justice.

fuzebox · 10-03-2008, 02:24 PM

Stagliano is facing similar charges for DVDs featuring milk enemas. Once they've got their foot in the door (ie. precedent), no one is safe. The government doesn't care if you are throatfucking crying girls or doing teen POV blowjobs. Wake up people

tony286 · 10-03-2008, 02:38 PM

remember to vote republican.

stickyfingerz · 10-03-2008, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn

Mutt, the problem is that there isn't really an obscenity law. It's just some vague bullshit that some judges can apply to anyone at any time with no real guidelines that one can diligently follow with forewarning. Even the most vanilla porn could be considered obscene. And the idea that a porn movie could be legal in one area and obscene in another city or state is preposterous. Max didn't even ship the damn movie in question, another company did. I am not defending his content specifically, but the whole thing is a travesty of justice.

Exactly. Without a CLEAR definition of obscenity on the books how can they lock up a guy for 4 years? Having a gf that loves rough sex I know from experience that what some see as obscene is just other peoples preference. So you get a jury with 12 fuddy duddies that think ALL porn is obscene and it could be anyone of us in jail.

stickyfingerz · 10-03-2008, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

remember to vote republican.

I agree. With all the pro porn laws passed by the dems I don't see how any of us can vote republican.

Pics Traffic · 10-03-2008, 02:43 PM

wow, thats insane.

Ethersync · 10-03-2008, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JP-pornshooter

hmm seems like relatively small fines and min security, isnt that similar to that milf who did time for some insider trading (martha stewart).

Martha Stewart? MILF?

TheSenator · 10-03-2008, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by CIVMatt

$700,000,000,000 spent to bailout groups who have destroyed this country, who say thanks and go about their business?. one guy expresses himself in a consensual situation in a cowboy hat and he goes to jail.

Some people are fuck up individuals.

Speaking the truth.

FREE MAX HARDCORE!

nikki99 · 10-03-2008, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

Stagliano is facing similar charges for DVDs featuring milk enemas.

oh really? that's fucked up

DatingGold · 10-03-2008, 03:02 PM

I have a feeling the guy had complaints from the models to authorities that we don't know about. One model has already publicly said she filed a police report.

So that's what got the authorities on him. Then they threw him in jail based upon the outright sickness of some of the video's he made. One of the few I watched was very bad.

Bama · 10-03-2008, 03:05 PM

I'm no fan of Max. I think he's found a way to legally rape women much like prostitution is illegal but if I call up a girl and pay her to star in my movie it isn't considered prostitution.

Yes we sell fantasy but think about his scenes and the wording of the scripts. Incest, rape, violence against the women..

You'd have to be a complete moron to not see what niche he's catering to and he sure does enjoy the work. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck - well, it might be a swan but don't bitch when it gets shot during duck season..

I don't worry about "big brother" raiding my business because I give them no reason to. Max went around quacking and his ass got shot.

Pepsi and Coke are 2 huge dominating company's in the software industry. The could utterly destroy RC Cola but RC has been around since I was a kid and they do it by not pissing off Coke or Pepsi by doing something stupid - well folks, we're RC Cola.

One one side we have the government and on the other the Religious Right and if you don't want your head to be included in one big "whack-a-mole" don't go sticking it out like Max did.

tony286 · 10-03-2008, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

I agree. With all the pro porn laws passed by the dems I don't see how any of us can vote republican.

Learn your history. You didn't see this happening during the clinton years. 2257 was changed under W people going to jail. Attorneys fired because they wouldnt go after adult porn cases. This is a republican admin.Are you that stuck in a political ideology that you are blind?
The marketers wanted to be right wing its their choice. You actually produce porn, please wake up.

Quentin · 10-03-2008, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by nation-x

I can't believe you stupid fucks are still defending this scumbag... I hope he thinks long and hard about his life. I watched a bunch of the stuff he filmed and some of it is just unreal... and clearly obscene. I will gladly accept your ridicule for standing up against shit like this. It's not porn... it's soft snuff. It's violence.

Do you feel the same way about hardcore BDSM? Prior to getting into this industry and researching the various niche markets, I would never have thought that some people actually want to have nails driven through their nipples, or would want to be suspended from hooks, or want to have their ass beaten with a paddle until it bleeds.... yet there's no shortage of people who PAY to have such things done to them.

I'm not suggesting the performers who work with Max all enjoy the experience -- merely that it isn't beyond the realm of possibility that they are OK with it, at least within the context of the video/scene being produced.

Any model who has performed with Max and feels that she was forced, induced or otherwise coerced to do something they did not want to do has the option of filing criminal charges against the man, or suing him in civil court. That's not what this case was about; this case was about violations of federal obscenity statutes, arguably the vaguest and worst defined statutes this country has to offer.

Connor from YNOT has a great analogy for how obscenity law works: it's like driving along a county road and seeing a sign that says "Speed Limit" but doesn't have any numbers on it. Then you get pulled over by a cop who says "Are you kidding me? Everybody in this town knows you have to stay under 25 on this road.... 30 tops... maybe 35.... well, it kind of depends I guess, but YOU were going 40 -- and we clearly can't have that."

Personally, I think that the most reasonable approach to obscenity law (other than eliminating it) would be to initially prosecute the material, and not the person(s) or company that produced it. Once a jury has deemed a video obscene, you could then make it a crime to sell that video. At least that way we would know whether or not a crime had been committed sometime before a jury comes back with a verdict....

When someone accused of robbing a bank goes on trial, for example, the only real question is "did they do it?" It just doesn't sit well with me to have a "crime" that is wholly dependent on context, and for which there is no objective criteria.

Adam_M · 10-03-2008, 03:34 PM

Sounds to me like the court has a lot more inside information then we do.

I hate the content that Max shoots and I'm sure I am not the only one, but if EVERY bit of paper work was in place I think the jail time is a bit over the top. If it pissed off the wrong people I am sure they could have found some girls at some time who are willing to stand against him and have some proof of something.

fuzebox · 10-03-2008, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Quentin

Connor from YNOT has a great analogy for how obscenity law works: it's like driving along a county road and seeing a sign that says "Speed Limit" but doesn't have any numbers on it. Then you get pulled over by a cop who says "Are you kidding me? Everybody in this town knows you have to stay under 25 on this road.... 30 tops... maybe 35.... well, it kind of depends I guess, but YOU were going 40 -- and we clearly can't have that."

I must have missed when he posted that, so thanks for reposting it. Great analogy

topnotch, standup guy · 10-03-2008, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

why does everybody on this board have to miss the point on everything?

there are OBSCENITY LAWS in the United States, always have been always will be,

Maybe not.

If all goes well in November this country might finally enter the 21st century

tony286 · 10-03-2008, 04:05 PM

As vague as the law is if it was very specific 75 percent of the porn we have today wouldnt exist.

Quentin · 10-03-2008, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

I must have missed when he posted that, so thanks for reposting it. Great analogy

Indeed it is, although I'm not sure he has ever posted/published it anywhere; I heard him say it at an Internext seminar in Florida a few years back and thought it was pretty damn spot-on.

The Ghost · 10-03-2008, 04:39 PM

Anyone who is for this verdict should be ashamed of themselves.

If you are in the adult business and based out of the Unites States you should be livid and concerned for your future, regardless if you do softcore sites or hardcore. Hell, the surfers on GFY should freak out as well, since YOUR FREEDOMS are being taken away.

This is content produced by consenting adults for consenting adults. It should not be regulated.

stickyfingerz · 10-03-2008, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by The Ghost

Anyone who is for this verdict should be ashamed of themselves.

If you are in the adult business and based out of the Unites States you should be livid and concerned for your future, regardless if you do softcore sites or hardcore. Hell, the surfers on GFY should freak out as well, since YOUR FREEDOMS are being taken away.

This is content produced by consenting adults for consenting adults. It should not be regulated.

Funny a lot of the big people that yell "freedom of speech" and hate George Bush support this ruling.

Beaver Bob · 10-03-2008, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by The Ghost

Anyone who is for this verdict should be ashamed of themselves.

If you are in the adult business and based out of the Unites States you should be livid and concerned for your future, regardless if you do softcore sites or hardcore. Hell, the surfers on GFY should freak out as well, since YOUR FREEDOMS are being taken away.

This is content produced by consenting adults for consenting adults. It should not be regulated.

exactly. Where are they going to draw the line?

This should fucking scare the shit out of anyone who makes a living in this business.

wasteland · 10-03-2008, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Quentin

Do you feel the same way about hardcore BDSM? Prior to getting into this industry and researching the various niche markets, I would never have thought that some people actually want to have nails driven through their nipples, or would want to be suspended from hooks, or want to have their ass beaten with a paddle until it bleeds.... yet there's no shortage of people who PAY to have such things done to them.

I'm not suggesting the performers who work with Max all enjoy the experience -- merely that it isn't beyond the realm of possibility that they are OK with it, at least within the context of the video/scene being produced.

Any model who has performed with Max and feels that she was forced, induced or otherwise coerced to do something they did not want to do has the option of filing criminal charges against the man, or suing him in civil court. That's not what this case was about; this case was about violations of federal obscenity statutes, arguably the vaguest and worst defined statutes this country has to offer.

Connor from YNOT has a great analogy for how obscenity law works: it's like driving along a county road and seeing a sign that says "Speed Limit" but doesn't have any numbers on it. Then you get pulled over by a cop who says "Are you kidding me? Everybody in this town knows you have to stay under 25 on this road.... 30 tops... maybe 35.... well, it kind of depends I guess, but YOU were going 40 -- and we clearly can't have that."

Personally, I think that the most reasonable approach to obscenity law (other than eliminating it) would be to initially prosecute the material, and not the person(s) or company that produced it. Once a jury has deemed a video obscene, you could then make it a crime to sell that video. At least that way we would know whether or not a crime had been committed sometime before a jury comes back with a verdict....

When someone accused of robbing a bank goes on trial, for example, the only real question is "did they do it?" It just doesn't sit well with me to have a "crime" that is wholly dependent on context, and for which there is no objective criteria.

Well put, Q.....
The only bit of good news is that Paul is free on appeal. That's a bit of a surprise, as is the lenient sentencing, considering what the federal guidelines are.

Colin at Wasteland

DBS.US · 10-03-2008, 05:19 PM

The government is seeking forfeiture of the obscene films charged in the indictment, all gross profits from the distribution of the films, and all property used to facilitate the charged obscenity crimes, including Little?s residence in Altadena, Calif., and the Internet domain names maxhardcore.com, pissedonpornstars.com, and catalinaxxx.com.

Just Mike · 10-03-2008, 05:24 PM

wow Max is gonna get ripped to shreds in jail (Fed or no fed pen)

jakethedog · 10-03-2008, 05:43 PM

Obscenity is based on community standards... BUT maybe its me .. but the person who should be in jail is the actual DISTRIBUTOR of the content that was deemed obscene .. and it should have nothing to do with Max.. unless a legal release of liability was signed between Max and Jaded releasing Jaded of all legal distribution liability .. regarding the actual content .. it used to be common practice to IP block certain states that had laws regarding obscene material .. some states even have issues with interracial ..hell even vibrators are illegal in some states ..
In my opinion .. Jaded should be the one on their way to crowbar hotel .. Max albeit not loved by all and yes a little twisted is someone filling a market that their is a demand for .. meaning the market he is selling to falls within a demographic which via the internet should be considered to fall under a community within it's self ... therefore falling within their own community standards ruling on their on obscene materials .. ..
just my rant .. and oh ya .. fuck AlienQ you sure hate Max huh .. lol take a breath .. i can see the veins pounding in your temples from here....

latinasojourn · 10-03-2008, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Rorschach

If a girl is genuinely crying and is in obvious distress, the technicality of money having changed hands doesn't make it any less forced. If, while Max is throatfucking her so she can't breath, she begs him to stop and he doesn't, that's rape. Payment doesn't make the issue of coercion any less real in the moment... It just means the girl is getting paid to get raped, rather than getting raped and no money changing hands.

Max made content for degenerates and it tarnished the image and ability of webmasters to operate legitimate businesses.

thanks for articulating what most reasonable people understand.

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Rorschach So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 5,579	If a girl is genuinely crying and is in obvious distress, the technicality of money having changed hands doesn't make it any less forced. If, while Max is throatfucking her so she can't breath, she begs him to stop and he doesn't, that's rape. Payment doesn't make the issue of coercion any less real in the moment... It just means the girl is getting paid to get raped, rather than getting raped and no money changing hands. Max made content for degenerates and it tarnished the image and ability of webmasters to operate legitimate businesses.

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pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: I convert perverts like catholic church! Posts: 5,133	The worst part is that this is not over There is a webmaster who post here and lives in the gainesville / ocala area and he along with his girlfriend are under investigation and the state / fed is building a case against him. I work with a lot of lawyers and when I found out via the llegal grapevine that this person would soon be looking at an unbeatable case... I nearly shit my pants ...... then I laughed If not for potential of being charged with obstruction of justice I might have warned him or put in a good word but the guy has never given me anything but a hard time If you do not have an attorney... you should not be in this biz... a good attorney

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nation-x Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 5,370	I can't believe you stupid fucks are still defending this scumbag... I hope he thinks long and hard about his life. I watched a bunch of the stuff he filmed and some of it is just unreal... and clearly obscene. I will gladly accept your ridicule for standing up against shit like this. It's not porn... it's soft snuff. It's violence.

10-03-2008, 02:24 PM	#76
fuzebox making it rain Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 22,119	Stagliano is facing similar charges for DVDs featuring milk enemas. Once they've got their foot in the door (ie. precedent), no one is safe. The government doesn't care if you are throatfucking crying girls or doing teen POV blowjobs. Wake up people

10-03-2008, 02:38 PM	#77
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	remember to vote republican.

10-03-2008, 03:02 PM	#84
DatingGold $6 PER EMAIL JOiN Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: California Posts: 13,185	I have a feeling the guy had complaints from the models to authorities that we don't know about. One model has already publicly said she filed a police report. So that's what got the authorities on him. Then they threw him in jail based upon the outright sickness of some of the video's he made. One of the few I watched was very bad. __________________ 9 Years of SOLID payouts and conversions! ADULT DATING - $100 PPS LIVE CAMS - $214 PPS WWW.DATINGGOLD.COM ICQ: 27442303

10-03-2008, 03:05 PM	#85
Bama Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Redmond, WA Posts: 2,727	I'm no fan of Max. I think he's found a way to legally rape women much like prostitution is illegal but if I call up a girl and pay her to star in my movie it isn't considered prostitution. Yes we sell fantasy but think about his scenes and the wording of the scripts. Incest, rape, violence against the women.. You'd have to be a complete moron to not see what niche he's catering to and he sure does enjoy the work. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck - well, it might be a swan but don't bitch when it gets shot during duck season.. I don't worry about "big brother" raiding my business because I give them no reason to. Max went around quacking and his ass got shot. Pepsi and Coke are 2 huge dominating company's in the software industry. The could utterly destroy RC Cola but RC has been around since I was a kid and they do it by not pissing off Coke or Pepsi by doing something stupid - well folks, we're RC Cola. One one side we have the government and on the other the Religious Right and if you don't want your head to be included in one big "whack-a-mole" don't go sticking it out like Max did.

10-03-2008, 03:34 PM	#88
Adam_M Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 3,800	Sounds to me like the court has a lot more inside information then we do. I hate the content that Max shoots and I'm sure I am not the only one, but if EVERY bit of paper work was in place I think the jail time is a bit over the top. If it pissed off the wrong people I am sure they could have found some girls at some time who are willing to stand against him and have some proof of something. __________________ DiscountedPorn.Com ReviewedPorn.com

10-03-2008, 04:05 PM	#91
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	As vague as the law is if it was very specific 75 percent of the porn we have today wouldnt exist.

10-03-2008, 04:39 PM	#93
The Ghost IslandDollars.com Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Icq: 176176 Posts: 12,188	Anyone who is for this verdict should be ashamed of themselves. If you are in the adult business and based out of the Unites States you should be livid and concerned for your future, regardless if you do softcore sites or hardcore. Hell, the surfers on GFY should freak out as well, since YOUR FREEDOMS are being taken away. This is content produced by consenting adults for consenting adults. It should not be regulated. __________________ ISLAND DOLLARS 1000's of Exclusive TS scenes / Constant Updates Best TS Network your surfers will ever join

10-03-2008, 05:19 PM	#97
DBS.US Geo Cities Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: North Captiva Island, Florida USA Posts: 11,833	The government is seeking forfeiture of the obscene films charged in the indictment, all gross profits from the distribution of the films, and all property used to facilitate the charged obscenity crimes, including Little?s residence in Altadena, Calif., and the Internet domain names maxhardcore.com, pissedonpornstars.com, and catalinaxxx.com. __________________ Make a Free Chaturbate White Label site in 34 minutes and be making money tonight

10-03-2008, 05:24 PM	#98
Just Mike Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In a land FAR FAR away Posts: 3,726	wow Max is gonna get ripped to shreds in jail (Fed or no fed pen) __________________ EMAIL: [email protected] / ICQ: 56205262 AWEMPIRE

10-03-2008, 05:43 PM	#99
jakethedog Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Vancouver B.C. Posts: 2,497	Obscenity is based on community standards... BUT maybe its me .. but the person who should be in jail is the actual DISTRIBUTOR of the content that was deemed obscene .. and it should have nothing to do with Max.. unless a legal release of liability was signed between Max and Jaded releasing Jaded of all legal distribution liability .. regarding the actual content .. it used to be common practice to IP block certain states that had laws regarding obscene material .. some states even have issues with interracial ..hell even vibrators are illegal in some states .. In my opinion .. Jaded should be the one on their way to crowbar hotel .. Max albeit not loved by all and yes a little twisted is someone filling a market that their is a demand for .. meaning the market he is selling to falls within a demographic which via the internet should be considered to fall under a community within it's self ... therefore falling within their own community standards ruling on their on obscene materials .. .. just my rant .. and oh ya .. fuck AlienQ you sure hate Max huh .. lol take a breath .. i can see the veins pounding in your temples from here.... __________________ No sig .. just me