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notoldschool · 12-25-2007, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Since you are already members of slashdot, (and linking to GFY) why not bring some additional attention to minusonebrain:

Income tax evasion

Stealing electricity

Am sure others can come up with more topics.

Please do. i am sure that someone has allready reported him to the irs but this could help with multiple reports.

quantum-x · 12-25-2007, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Since you are already members of slashdot, (and linking to GFY) why not bring some additional attention to minusonebrain:

Income tax evasion

Stealing electricity

Am sure others can come up with more topics.

Did in my second post

baddog · 12-25-2007, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by quantum-x

Did in my second post

Good man. Maybe we should be contacting the Oklahoma AG's office too. Since he is one of the top 5 litigators in the state, I am sure they know who he is.

quantum-x · 12-25-2007, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Good man. Maybe we should be contacting the Oklahoma AG's office too. Since he is one of the top 5 litigators in the state, I am sure they know who he is.

Arguing on /. is like putting out spot fires.. you have to fight uphill to try to tell the public that the REAL adult industry arent the ones that spam and install trojans - the image of the industry is bad enough, let alone for upstarts like minusonebit, trying to destroy everything for no apparent reason.

What a cluster fuck.

baddog · 12-25-2007, 11:30 AM

Never been to the site before. Took a quick look this morning and decided I was better for it.

calmlikeabomb · 12-25-2007, 11:33 AM

John is a good guy. I'm sure his team will beef up on security and the way they handle intrusions after all is said and done. Besides when you have good software, incidents like this are bound to happen.

Btw, John I was hired as a Web Developer @ Florida Institute of Technology so I'll be in Florida till' I get my Ph.D. : - )

Levi

quantum-x · 12-25-2007, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Never been to the site before. Took a quick look this morning and decided I was better for it.

slashdot is a faily good site for keeping a finger on the tech pulse.

Very good if you follow shares/stocks too, always gives some insight

Azoy? · 12-25-2007, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by quantum-x

http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/12/25/0050204

Keith writes
"Tens of thousands ? or maybe more ? accounts to adult websites were recently declared compromised and apparently have been that way since some time in October 2007. The break occurred when the NATS software used to track and manage sales and affiliate revenues was accessed by an intruder. The miscreant apparently discovered a list of admin passwords residing on an unsecured office server at Too Much Media, which makes and maintains NATS installations for adult companies. It would appear that Too Much Media knew of the breach back in October, and rather than fixing the issue tried to bury it by threatening to sue anyone in the adult industry who talked about it."
The article gives suggestions for anyone who opened an account at any adult website in the last several months.
[+] security, ohnoes, theinternetisforporn (tagging beta)

Thanks minusonbit!

And now, the end is near,
And so I face the final curtain.
My friends, I'll say it clear;
I'll state my case of which I'm certain.

I've lived a life that's full -
I've travelled each and every highway.
And more, much more than this,
I did it my way.

Regrets? I've had a few,
But then again, too few to mention.................................

notoldschool · 12-25-2007, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by quantum-x

slashdot is a faily good site for keeping a finger on the tech pulse.

Very good if you follow shares/stocks too, always gives some insight

Funny, that I never knew about that site. Funny but not suprising. bookmarked.

TTiger · 12-25-2007, 01:06 PM

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ICWT first learned of the massive security breach when a series of posts were made on an adult industry web bulletin board known as ?GFY?, where webmasters from the adult community congregate to discuss business. Exact details of the incident are still being pieced together, similar to a jigsaw puzzle.

Some newbie will surf GFY shortly and the link is already on Digg
Submitter: minusonebit
http://digg.com/security/Tens_of_Tho..._Comprom ised

papill0n · 12-25-2007, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by minusonebit

I never said that YOU said that, John. It was an estimate that I gleaned from somewhere. Someone claimed it. But it was not attributed to you. I have since revised it to 35%-40% which seems to be the consensus. I do have to say I have never seen anyone bitch about someone claiming they have a lock on a market.

LOL - one tirade it's 90% the next it is 35%

you are a fucking clown mate

a fucking clown

TheDoc · 12-25-2007, 04:52 PM

These articles put out by minusonebit are filled with wrong information and straight out lies.

He should be banned.

Hansm · 12-25-2007, 05:31 PM

Minusordebit i serious will enjoy your game. You know why?

YOU WILL END UP IN JAIL FOR SOME DAYS. I clearly readed that you are spreading lies. not NATS!!!

Going to be fun. And i wish your luck because you will lose every lawsuit, you are wrong what you are posted.

And theres no chance anymore for you to revert your post.

Hansm · 12-25-2007, 05:33 PM

Minusordebit is serious sick. If he posted the real story ok. But telling CC Data got stolen is crazy. because im sure he knows nats does not have any cc data.

Hansm · 12-25-2007, 05:33 PM

Maybe he did not know? Then he is even more stupid lol.

will76 · 12-25-2007, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by PBucksJohn

Not true. Again, shit that was made up by people with their own agendas. We asked for contact info for a law firm to send a C&D as people had said they were spreading false info. Far from trying to cover something up.

Set the record straight for us John,

What was the false info they were trying to spread?

I got a feeling people were saying you were " hacked" and that is the false info you are talking about. Correct me if I am wrong. But at the end of the day if it was a " hack " or a " compromised password list on your server", either way its all the same to most people. It's the same end result. Its like someone saying, no its " adware" not "spyware", but what the hell do we care if it still steals traffic from us.

So what were the people saying a couple months back that cause you to want to sue them to shut them up ?

will76 · 12-25-2007, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by calmlikeabomb

Besides when you have good software, incidents like this are bound to happen.

that is a fucking retarded comment. if you have good software and security in place stuff like this doesn't happen.

dial · 12-25-2007, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by calmlikeabomb

John is a good guy. I'm sure his team will beef up on security and the way they handle intrusions after all is said and done. Besides when you have good software, incidents like this are bound to happen.

Btw, John I was hired as a Web Developer @ Florida Institute of Technology so I'll be in Florida till' I get my Ph.D. : - )

Levi

awesome

looks like one more state that Levi will be ripping people off in

die already you fucking scammer

uno · 12-25-2007, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by quantum-x

I love it that our paths always cross in 'drama' threads Amelia. Last stop was the Suicide Girls debacle, I believe. I happened to be wearing my BlueBlood tshirt today when posting this stuff...

I hope you're having a good relaxing day

I loved your diagram in that thread.

pocketkangaroo · 12-25-2007, 07:12 PM

I'm torn on this issue. On one hand, this is not an issue that should be swept under the rug. It's simply unacceptable to have affiliate data be mined that way, and even more unacceptable that this issue was known for awhile. It deserves coverage and people deserved to be called out on it.

But the more mainstream coverage this gets, the worse off for the industry it is. I know minusonebit isn't really in the industry so this stuff doesn't affect him. But the more this gets out, the worse off conversions will be. I guess what I'm saying is that this should be big industry news, but hurts us all the more mainstream it gets. It's sad that people want to hurt the industry so bad.

minusonebit · 12-25-2007, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

Yeppers, this shows when thinking to threaten to sue someone take the time to think what can they do back. This is a strong example.
What I dont get is where is he lying, on another forum they were showing things from October. Who knows what they got and didn't get? Does anyone have a solid answer on that?

Its GFY, Tony. Most of them think this is the only adult webmaster board. If it wasn't posted here, it didn't happen. Truly not the case.

The fact of the matter is this:

I have a source for every allegation I made. In order for John to prevail in a libel suit he will not only have to prove that the allegations were false he will also have to prove that I knew so when I published the story. He still has not done several of the things he is required to do under the libel laws.

Additionally, if he is actually stupid enough to go through with this - which I now think he is - he will be sorry. Because I will use the discovery and subpoena process to go through every aspect of his miserable and pathetic little existence on this planet and the truth of exactly what TMM did and did not do will be public knowledge. John wants this to be ugly so I will make it ugly. This started as being about how John's company fucked alot of people over through its incompetent handling of things, John turned it into an issue of it being about John himself: personally, professionally and as a player in the industry.

John was the first one to declare war. He did it in an unprofessional manner (legal threats are to be made by certified mail, return receipt requested - not on GFY) and when someone declares war on me I am not going to sit around and wait to be invaded.

minusonebit · 12-25-2007, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by QTbucks_Mark

I read the story at /. earlier today and I think quantum-x did a good job in clarifying the whole situation. Apart from the usual +5, Funny posts, anyone who reads the comments now knows that no CC info was stolen - and that's what matters for the customer IMHO.

It's the affiliates that are affected the most, as the hacker might have their SSN - for the consumer it's just an increase in spam, which they're probably used to anyway.

Some of you guys are such idiots its unbelievable. You and people like you are the main reason I decided to blow the lid off this whole thing and now that I have done it I am even more convinced that I did the right thing. "It was just their e-mail address" is pretty much what you are saying and that *could* be all it is. No one knows for sure. You are speculating that thats all it is, just like I am speculating that its more than that. I don't see where your speculation is somehow more valid than mine.

But lets assume, for the sake of argument. Thats a big fucking deal to most people. People expect this industry to maintain their privacy with regard to all of their information and then they breach it in the most negligent manner imaginable and then send people from the adult industry out onto the news sites to try and tell them "Its OK, its just your e-mail address". You people deserve what will come of this. I will be sending piles of letters tomorrow and I will ask the government to get involved. Why? Because most of the people here clearly lack the intelligence to deal with it on their own.

And again, no one has proven that billing info is or was safe. All I have thus far is John's word on that subject and the uneducated opinion of a few board whores. Sorry, thats just not good enough.

TheDoc · 12-25-2007, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by minusonebit

Its GFY, Tony. Most of them think this is the only adult webmaster board. If it wasn't posted here, it didn't happen. Truly not the case.

The fact of the matter is this:

I have a source for every allegation I made. In order for John to prevail in a libel suit he will not only have to prove that the allegations were false he will also have to prove that I knew so when I published the story. He still has not done several of the things he is required to do under the libel laws.

Additionally, if he is actually stupid enough to go through with this - which I now think he is - he will be sorry. Because I will use the discovery and subpoena process to go through every aspect of his miserable and pathetic little existence on this planet and the truth of exactly what TMM did and did not do will be public knowledge. John wants this to be ugly so I will make it ugly. This started as being about how John's company fucked alot of people over through its incompetent handling of things, John turned it into an issue of it being about John himself: personally, professionally and as a player in the industry.

John was the first one to declare war. He did it in an unprofessional manner (legal threats are to be made by certified mail, return receipt requested - not on GFY) and when someone declares war on me I am not going to sit around and wait to be invaded.

You are a fucked person. You have posted so much bullshit and lies online that it would only take a few seconds to expose your slander.

And I'm 100% sure you have no client telling you anything. Matter of fact I would put money on it. The only thing you have is the twisted lies you have started to spew over the web.

Iron Fist · 12-25-2007, 07:42 PM

GFY will probably ban minusonebit just so they don't have to waste their time going to court for this lawsuit... might already be too late for that

Pleasurepays · 12-25-2007, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by minusonebit

Its GFY, Tony. Most of them think this is the only adult webmaster board. If it wasn't posted here, it didn't happen. Truly not the case.

The fact of the matter is this:

I have a source for every allegation I made. In order for John to prevail in a libel suit he will not only have to prove that the allegations were false he will also have to prove that I knew so when I published the story. He still has not done several of the things he is required to do under the libel laws.

Additionally, if he is actually stupid enough to go through with this - which I now think he is - he will be sorry. Because I will use the discovery and subpoena process to go through every aspect of his miserable and pathetic little existence on this planet and the truth of exactly what TMM did and did not do will be public knowledge. John wants this to be ugly so I will make it ugly. This started as being about how John's company fucked alot of people over through its incompetent handling of things, John turned it into an issue of it being about John himself: personally, professionally and as a player in the industry.

John was the first one to declare war. He did it in an unprofessional manner (legal threats are to be made by certified mail, return receipt requested - not on GFY) and when someone declares war on me I am not going to sit around and wait to be invaded.

BREAKING NEWS

Keith AKA "minusonebit" was shot friday evening 47 times by 5 unknown assailants while he was masturbating to a Kevin Federline photograph in a Shell gas station bathroom. He was known to have had few friends and leaves no one behind that wants to admit to knowing him.

Minusonebit was best known for his fake and transparent attention getting/trolling efforts on GFY which were always executed with all the style and flair of a retarded chimpanzee. To name a few examples, he was posting usernames and passwords, explaining how people should defraud the IRS and took the time to write a lengthy, well documented article (backed by incriminating photos) about how he was robbing his local power company of electricity because they were, as he put it "cocksuckers begging to be made an example of" and for taking on fights that weren't his to fight such as that with John at NATS.

It is strongly suspected by many in the adult business that his deep rooted fear of authority and constant craving for negative attention are the result of being sexually abused as a child by several family members, friends and neighborhood animals. "No one likes him, no one supports him. No one believes him and further, no one is entirely sure if he even has or has ever had anything to do with the adult business." said one adult webmaster.

Calls to the prosecutor handling the case of this brutal slaying had went unanswered until late this afternoon when the official statement was given that was this; "seriously, does anyone really care?... the guy couldn't put two words together without pissing someone off or saying something mind numbingly stupid. I don't know what happened, but reviewing his past behavior, the record strongly suggests he probably deserved what he got". The police said the investigation is ongoing. Or maybe not. They don't seem to care either.

Just Mike · 12-26-2007, 12:00 AM

Ok SIG SPOT!!

notoldschool · 12-26-2007, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

BREAKING NEWS

Keith AKA "minusonebit" was shot friday evening 47 times by 5 unknown assailants while he was masturbating to a Kevin Federline photograph in a Shell gas station bathroom. He was known to have had few friends and leaves no one behind that wants to admit to knowing him.

Minusonebit was best known for his fake and transparent attention getting/trolling efforts on GFY which were always executed with all the style and flair of a retarded chimpanzee. To name a few examples, he was posting usernames and passwords, explaining how people should defraud the IRS and took the time to write a lengthy, well documented article (backed by incriminating photos) about how he was robbing his local power company of electricity because they were, as he put it "cocksuckers begging to be made an example of" and for taking on fights that weren't his to fight such as that with John at NATS.

It is strongly suspected by many in the adult business that his deep rooted fear of authority and constant craving for negative attention are the result of being sexually abused as a child by several family members, friends and neighborhood animals. "No one likes him, no one supports him. No one believes him and further, no one is entirely sure if he even has or has ever had anything to do with the adult business." said one adult webmaster.

Calls to the prosecutor handling the case of this brutal slaying had went unanswered until late this afternoon when the official statement was given that was this; "seriously, does anyone really care?... the guy couldn't put two words together without pissing someone off or saying something mind numbingly stupid. I don't know what happened, but reviewing his past behavior, the record strongly suggests he probably deserved what he got". The police said the investigation is ongoing. Or maybe not. They don't seem to care either.

:O Oh Shnaaap.

Hansm · 12-26-2007, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by minusonebit

I have a source for every allegation I made.

Then you know theres no CC/Check DATA in Nats.

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Originally Posted by minusonebit

Some of you guys are such idiots its unbelievable.

The biggest idiot is you and noone else. You are bringing up false info. Every webmaster know this and you come here with another lie that you dont know if billing info is save.

1 thing is save for usre. the check numbers/credit numbers.

Whats a email address this day and same names? NOTHING!!! I already got 5000 emails spam daily. so if i get the next day 10 more i dont care either.

Im serious impressed you are still defenting yourself? You serious a idiot.

Hansm · 12-26-2007, 01:24 AM

AmeliaG · 12-26-2007, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by minusonebit

And again, no one has proven that billing info is or was safe. All I have thus far is John's word on that subject and the uneducated opinion of a few board whores. Sorry, thats just not good enough.

You need to work on your reading comprehension. I am a program owner and I have repeatedly attempted to educate you on this. I considered NATS for a recent project. I'm going to say this once as clearly as I can:

I BELIEVE CREDIT CARD DATA WAS NOT LEAKED BECAUSE THE PURPOSE OF THE NATS SOFTWARE HAS ABSOLUTELY ZERO TO DO WITH COLLECTING CREDIT CARD DATA FROM CUSTOMERS.

If you do not even know what the NATS software is for because you do not now, nor have you ever worked, in this industry, maybe you are not an expert and you should stop going off half-cocked.

I do not even use NATS and my business will be hurt by the disinformation you are spreading. Look at all the people on Slashdot suggesting everyone become thieves to protect themselves from a problem you fabricated. Why do you want to hurt everyone, unless you have some nutjob vendetta with online adult in general?

quantum-x · 12-26-2007, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG

You need to work on your reading comprehension. I am a program owner and I have repeatedly attempted to educate you on this. I considered NATS for a recent project. I'm going to say this once as clearly as I can:

I BELIEVE CREDIT CARD DATA WAS NOT LEAKED BECAUSE THE PURPOSE OF THE NATS SOFTWARE HAS ABSOLUTELY ZERO TO DO WITH COLLECTING CREDIT CARD DATA FROM CUSTOMERS.

If you do not even know what the NATS software is for because you do not now, nor have you ever worked, in this industry, maybe you are not an expert and you should stop going off half-cocked.

I do not even use NATS and my business will be hurt by the disinformation you are spreading. Look at all the people on Slashdot suggesting everyone become thieves to protect themselves from a problem you fabricated. Why do you want to hurt everyone, unless you have some nutjob vendetta with online adult in general?

You've hit the nail on the head again Amelia. This guy has no understanding of the issue, and has made it quite apparent he does not care.

He's not after facts, he's not after truth.

DivaShane · 12-26-2007, 11:32 AM

Quick question to any one who cares to answer this for me... how do I put some one on ignore? I'm getting kind of sick of a certain persons postings.

shunga · 12-26-2007, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DivaShane

Quick question to any one who cares to answer this for me... how do I put some one on ignore? I'm getting kind of sick of a certain persons postings.

Look for buddy/ignore list under your control panel, top left corner of this page.

12-25-2007, 11:33 AM	#56
calmlikeabomb Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: SW Palm Bay, Florida Posts: 1,323	Too Much Media John is a good guy. I'm sure his team will beef up on security and the way they handle intrusions after all is said and done. Besides when you have good software, incidents like this are bound to happen. Btw, John I was hired as a Web Developer @ Florida Institute of Technology so I'll be in Florida till' I get my Ph.D. : - ) Levi __________________ subarus. Last edited by calmlikeabomb; 12-25-2007 at 11:35 AM..

12-25-2007, 04:52 PM	#62
TheDoc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Currently Incognito Posts: 13,827	These articles put out by minusonebit are filled with wrong information and straight out lies. He should be banned. __________________ ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825 It's all disambiguation

12-25-2007, 07:42 PM	#74
Iron Fist Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,400	GFY will probably ban minusonebit just so they don't have to waste their time going to court for this lawsuit... might already be too late for that __________________ i like waffles

12-26-2007, 12:00 AM	#76
Just Mike Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In a land FAR FAR away Posts: 3,726	Ok SIG SPOT!! __________________ EMAIL: [email protected] / ICQ: 56205262 AWEMPIRE

12-26-2007, 11:32 AM	#82
DivaShane Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2006 Location: Kansas - Land of Retards Posts: 370	Quick question to any one who cares to answer this for me... how do I put some one on ignore? I'm getting kind of sick of a certain persons postings. __________________ Shane Webmaster Wednesday - Internet Radio For Webmasters Last edited by DivaShane; 12-26-2007 at 11:33 AM..

12-25-2007, 11:30 AM	#55
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	Never been to the site before. Took a quick look this morning and decided I was better for it.

12-25-2007, 05:31 PM	#63
Hansm Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 871	Minusordebit i serious will enjoy your game. You know why? YOU WILL END UP IN JAIL FOR SOME DAYS. I clearly readed that you are spreading lies. not NATS!!! Going to be fun. And i wish your luck because you will lose every lawsuit, you are wrong what you are posted. And theres no chance anymore for you to revert your post.

12-25-2007, 05:33 PM	#64
Hansm Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 871	Minusordebit is serious sick. If he posted the real story ok. But telling CC Data got stolen is crazy. because im sure he knows nats does not have any cc data.

12-25-2007, 07:12 PM	#70
pocketkangaroo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 8,452	I'm torn on this issue. On one hand, this is not an issue that should be swept under the rug. It's simply unacceptable to have affiliate data be mined that way, and even more unacceptable that this issue was known for awhile. It deserves coverage and people deserved to be called out on it. But the more mainstream coverage this gets, the worse off for the industry it is. I know minusonebit isn't really in the industry so this stuff doesn't affect him. But the more this gets out, the worse off conversions will be. I guess what I'm saying is that this should be big industry news, but hurts us all the more mainstream it gets. It's sad that people want to hurt the industry so bad.

12-26-2007, 01:24 AM	#79
Hansm Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 871