My 9 year old Nephew just got spammed on myspace... ARS

[Shooting_Maniac1]

Guys... i know, I know... its money and ya look the other way. But 90% of the kids on myspace are under 18. They have to say the are 18 to be able to sign up. You guys are spamming a bunch of underage kids... wtf? He didnt opt in and only has computer access when he comes to my place. I set him up a page last time here was here and now I find porn spam in it? Spacash did the same to him last week. wft guys? You wonder why we get a bad name, yet you continue to allow your affiliates to send porn to kids.

Below is the linking url.


http://www.suburbsluts.com/index.php... B&t=5&x=1&c=

[Alex]

Originally Posted by Shooting_Maniac1

Guys... i know, I know... its money and ya look the other way. But 90% of the kids on myspace are under 18. They have to say the are 18 to be able to sign up. You guys are spamming a bunch of underage kids... wtf? He didnt opt in and only has computer access when he comes to my place. I set him up a page last time here was here and now I find porn spam in it? Spacash did the same to him last week. wft guys? You wonder why we get a bad name, yet you continue to allow your affiliates to send porn to kids.

Below is the linking url.


http://www.suburbsluts.com/index.php... B&t=5&x=1&c=

Not trying to be an asshole, but why do you think they say you have to be 18 years of age to sign up. To avoid this shit.

[Spunky]

Complain to ARS..I'm sure they will do something about it

[Nylz]

affiliate 1016935

[cherrylula]

from their tos:

You further represent and warrant that you are 14 years of age or older and that your use of the MySpace.com shall not violate any applicable law or regulation.

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Its not 18, its fucking 14.

Myspace is NOT for 9 year olds, and its not for porn either. Shame on anyone who allows either on that site.

Its a haven for underage girls and boys and nobody seems to care, even the owners who have adult dating ads on there. So as with everything on the internet, parents should watch their kids.

[cherrylula]

So ultimately any of you people on there spamming your adult stuff is showcasing it to 14 year old kids. CONGRATS on being such a great citizen of the interweb.

[Alex]

In that case i take my comment back.
it really is shitty that they spammed your newphew. But then agagin, he still isnt 14.
And with the millions of kids daily taht get it in thier email, there is not much anyone can do.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by cherrylula

So ultimately any of you people on there spamming your adult stuff is showcasing it to 14 year old kids. CONGRATS on being such a great citizen of the interweb.

Thats a fairly silly statement..

14 year old kids like to look at playboy magazine any chance they get , does that make playboy "showcasing" to 14 year olds ?

I can understand the basic statement about not spamming adult shit on myspace, but to say its "showcasing" it to 14 year olds is stupid..

HEY seo people , you sick bastards are showcasing your adult shit on google to 14 year olds..

If any parent is letting there kid on myspace , they are idiots. If any parent alows their child to " free browse " the internet they are stupid ( unless they dont mind what their child is viewing i.e. anything )

I certainly would think PORN is the very LEAST of your concerns of what kids might find on the internet...

[Promo Chicks]

Note to self: It is bad to spam adult websites to kids that are under 18 that sign up saying they are over 18.

[Shooting_Maniac1]

Originally Posted by cherrylula

from their tos:

You further represent and warrant that you are 14 years of age or older and that your use of the MySpace.com shall not violate any applicable law or regulation.

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Its not 18, its fucking 14.

Myspace is NOT for 9 year olds, and its not for porn either. Shame on anyone who allows either on that site.

Its a haven for underage girls and boys and nobody seems to care, even the owners who have adult dating ads on there. So as with everything on the internet, parents should watch their kids.

No shit Capt Odvious! Parents should watch their kids... how the hell do you think I found the spam? Trust me on this, the goverment is not going to show up on some parents doorstep with crimial charges and a news crew in tow.

Yes, Ive read their TOS and the 14 thing is new.. within the last 45 days. So, its still ok for people to spam myspace knowing that half the kids on there are under 18?

Look, there was no warning page, no nothing... just a halfpage ad embedded in the email so the first thing they see when they open it is some naked check with a cock in her ass. We can blame it in the parents and the parents will blame it on us.... guess who will win that battle?

[Ron Bennett]

Many of the big name adult sponsors spam directly and/and indirectly - like no kidding ...

An eye-opener to how prevalant the practice is ... the discussion about "mailers" in the Split-Infinity "drama" thread really exposes the dark underpinnings of much of the adult industry.

Ron

p.s. looking for a good webhost that has its own data center (or at leases a large portion of one) with a real physical office (the ups store doesn't count LOL!) with 24/7 staff on call ... need for both adult and non-adult stuff ... need 2 to 4 dedicated servers with a total of around 3 TB monthly (100 GB / day) bandwidth minimum and very importantly daily BACKUP (many hosts I see advertised here don't have good backup solutions) ... anyways, my email is [email protected] (when emailing about what you can offer, please be sure to use a very specific title so I see it) ... thanks!

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by Shooting_Maniac1

Guys... i know, I know... its money and ya look the other way. But 90% of the kids on myspace are under 18. They have to say the are 18 to be able to sign up. You guys are spamming a bunch of underage kids... wtf? He didnt opt in and only has computer access when he comes to my place. I set him up a page last time here was here and now I find porn spam in it? Spacash did the same to him last week. wft guys? You wonder why we get a bad name, yet you continue to allow your affiliates to send porn to kids.

Below is the linking url.


http://www.suburbsluts.com/index.php... B&t=5&x=1&c=

no offense but 9 year olds shouldnt be on myspace, have you ever used it ?

A link doesn't tell us anything , what kind of spam are you referring to ? if some kid just cut that link from another page and posted it to his friends page , is it fair your calling him a spammer ? I'm not saying thats what happened , but perhaps you could "elaborate" on what this spam is , how he got it..

furthermore "spacash" did no such thing.. if you mean he clicked a link to spacash from somewhere , that could be true , there are millions of ways to get a link , but " Spacash did the same to him last week" is completely false.. spacash doesn't use myspace and certainly didnt send your 9 year old nephew a thing unless he signed up himself..

I would be more worried about the fact your nephew is being encouraged to sign up for things he isn't eligible for ( and for good reason )

[Sin_Vraal]

You do know the ENTIRE premis behind myspace is mail right?

myspace probably sold out the email list or more likely mailed it themselves.

[Shooting_Maniac1]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

no offense but 9 year olds shouldnt be on myspace, have you ever used it ?

A link doesn't tell us anything , what kind of spam are you referring to ? if some kid just cut that link from another page and posted it to his friends page , is it fair your calling him a spammer ? I'm not saying thats what happened , but perhaps you could "elaborate" on what this spam is , how he got it..

furthermore "spacash" did no such thing.. if you mean he clicked a link to spacash from somewhere , that could be true , there are millions of ways to get a link , but " Spacash did the same to him last week" is completely false.. spacash doesn't use myspace and certainly didnt send your 9 year old nephew a thing unless he signed up himself..

I would be more worried about the fact your nephew is being encouraged to sign up for things he isn't eligible for ( and for good reason )

Again, I thought I made it clear. I did a page for him. All his pics from growing up and all. Not for his person use at all. He does not have computer access at all, except when he is here and cant even got on my computers without my 100% supervison. I went in to update his page today since he is going to be here tomorrow When doing so.... I found this spam and a spacash spam in his email box. Crazy that I even have to defend this... period. No warning page, no notifcation that adult content was inside... a halfpage add of a naked chick taking it in the ass embedded in the email so its viewable on open. Yeah, thats all ok.... it must be the parents fault.

[RogerV]

Originally Posted by Shooting_Maniac1

Guys... i know, I know... its money and ya look the other way. But 90% of the kids on myspace are under 18. They have to say the are 18 to be able to sign up. You guys are spamming a bunch of underage kids... wtf? He didnt opt in and only has computer access when he comes to my place. I set him up a page last time here was here and now I find porn spam in it? Spacash did the same to him last week. wft guys? You wonder why we get a bad name, yet you continue to allow your affiliates to send porn to kids.

Below is the linking url.


http://www.suburbsluts.com/index.php... B&t=5&x=1&c=

Dont try to stop the movement..

Its just Porn naked woman and sex etc.

Its much better than all the violence he watches on all the new cartoons or tv.

My parents let me look at nude woman all the time its natural when we were in europe on the beach everyone was topless etc.

[Quickdraw]

Originally Posted by RogerV

Dont try to stop the movement..

Its just Porn naked woman and sex etc.

Its much better than all the violence he watches on all the new cartoons or tv.

My parents let me look at nude woman all the time its natural when we were in europe on the beach everyone was topless etc.

Does this mean your company spams? No hate intended, just checking.

[Shooting_Maniac1]

Originally Posted by RogerV

Dont try to stop the movement..

Its just Porn naked woman and sex etc.

Its much better than all the violence he watches on all the new cartoons or tv.

My parents let me look at nude woman all the time its natural when we were in europe on the beach everyone was topless etc.

Nude chicks.. yeah sure.. not a huge deal. Girls taking it in the ass, totally different. Plus, shouldnt there be an option? No warning, nothing? The Canspam rules dont apply to Myspace?

[Sosa]

a 9 year old shouldn't be on myspace in the first place.

[Shooting_Maniac1]

Originally Posted by Sosa

a 9 year old shouldn't be on myspace in the first place.

Please read past the title before posting.. I know you are smarter then that.

[RogerV]

Originally Posted by Quickdraw

Does this mean your company spams? No hate intended, just checking.

We do not spam and I never have..

have webmasters spammed us yes do we allow it no. but if its done legit I dont care.

[cherrylula]

gee, last I checked kids under 18 could not go out and buy a Playboy magazine. Has something changed?

[RogerV]

Originally Posted by Shooting_Maniac1

Nude chicks.. yeah sure.. not a huge deal. Girls taking it in the ass, totally different. Plus, shouldnt there be an option? No warning, nothing? The Canspam rules dont apply to Myspace?

I do agree about the warning.

Kids now and days are having sex very young. hell I remember when I was 9 i touched a girls pussy just because I wanted to check it out. from curiousity
I cant imagine what they are doing now.

but if you shelter people they will just find a way to rebel

I would rather my daughter or son see a girl taking it in the ass then someone getting there head blown off because it looks kewl

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by Shooting_Maniac1

Again, I thought I made it clear. I did a page for him. All his pics from growing up and all. Not for his person use at all. He does not have computer access at all, except when he is here and cant even got on my computers without my 100% supervison. I went in to update his page today since he is going to be here tomorrow When doing so.... I found this spam and a spacash spam in his email box. Crazy that I even have to defend this... period. No warning page, no notifcation that adult content was inside... a halfpage add of a naked chick taking it in the ass embedded in the email so its viewable on open. Yeah, thats all ok.... it must be the parents fault.

well i would have to know alot more details .. what age is the profile you made for him ??

You found a spacash email in his email or in his myspace mail ?

post the actual email , yes you have to defend yourself when you say SPACASH SENT ME THIS.. and spacash clearly DIDNT send you this...

some moron most likely sent it to you , maybe he was an affiliate maybe he was just a hater , but we cant know without seeing the FULL EMAIL , and spacash certainly cant do anything about it if you dont notify them or us of the affiliate and the full headers , and some more details like the age of the profile..

i totally get where your coming from but i think your pointing the fingers at the wrong people..

And i still think its crazy you would put a 9 year olds profile on myspace ( just my opinion) regardless of how he views it , there are some sick people , who knows if your next door neighbour ooks at that stuff etc ) not a good idea. i would have that on a closed network..

Its easy to do , create another profile on your computer , open the browser ooptions security level and only allow it to ONE domain, the domain you have the stuff on and nothing else.. easy shmeezie

[cherrylula]

Originally Posted by RogerV

Dont try to stop the movement..

Its just Porn naked woman and sex etc.

Its much better than all the violence he watches on all the new cartoons or tv.

My parents let me look at nude woman all the time its natural when we were in europe on the beach everyone was topless etc.

yeah, its just porn... especially the double anal and gagging sites they have now.

That sounds really bad Roger. Nude women is one thing, but come on, with the porn out there nowdays gimme a break. We're not just talking nipples and buttcracks.

[Alex]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

well i would have to know alot more details .. what age is the profile you made for him ??

You found a spacash email in his email or in his myspace mail ?

I am 90% sure that he lied about his age and put it over 18.

[cherrylula]

myspace really should have an adults only section. I bet they get sued or something real soon if they don't clean that site up.

[SmokeyTheBear]

everyone here know sick sick stuff is only one click away on myspace, i dont know how you could possibly watch over a kid on myspace.. people can ask to add you , and do for whatever reason , and the pics arent usually very "kid" friendly.. i dont think posting anything to do with kids is very healthy.. or even letting them view it unless you plan on sending them out of the room every time you click the mouse and calling them back in after you have previewed the page..

[RogerV]

Originally Posted by cherrylula

yeah, its just porn... especially the double anal and gagging sites they have now.

That sounds really bad Roger. Nude women is one thing, but come on, with the porn out there nowdays gimme a break. We're not just talking nipples and buttcracks.

I would rather them censor all the gangster shootem up shit that we glorify and the violence and hate the media continues to fill the kids heads with. If you really think about it its a natural act wether its vanilla sex or hardcore

If your not hurting someone who cares.

Kids are very smart now and days lets educate them instead of trying to shelter them from everyhting.

[Shooting_Maniac1]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

well i would have to know alot more details .. what age is the profile you made for him ??

You found a spacash email in his email or in his myspace mail ?

post the actual email , yes you have to defend yourself when you say SPACASH SENT ME THIS.. and spacash clearly DIDNT send you this...

some moron most likely sent it to you , maybe he was an affiliate maybe he was just a hater , but we cant know without seeing the FULL EMAIL , and spacash certainly cant do anything about it if you dont notify them or us of the affiliate and the full headers , and some more details like the age of the profile..

i totally get where your coming from but i think your pointing the fingers at the wrong people..

And i still think its crazy you would put a 9 year olds profile on myspace ( just my opinion) regardless of how he views it , there are some sick people , who knows if your next door neighbour ooks at that stuff etc ) not a good idea. i would have that on a closed network..

Its easy to do , create another profile on your computer , open the browser ooptions security level and only allow it to ONE domain, the domain you have the stuff on and nothing else.. easy shmeezie

Well, im sure it was an affiliate of both spacash and ars and of course, they cant police them all. I did send an email to spacash letting them know as well as ars. But again, the Goverment is NOT going ot come after some affiliate for the most part.. they will go after the program. The buck stops somewhere ya know?

And a myspace profile is no different then an aol, yahoo, msn or whatever profile. Theres sickos on all of them and to think myspace is somehow worse then the other options out there does not make sense.... better, no, but hardly worse. My Newphew has zero access to it..... none. His age is marked at 14..... its cleat is was just a blind email sent by some moron affiliate in both cases... no landing page... nothing. Very careless and in the end, the sponsor pays the price in most cases.

My only real gripe here is that there was no Can-spam guidelines... a hpa embeded in the email on open... and no warning page... at all. Spam all ya want for all I care, but at least, follow the rules.

[Quickdraw]

RogerV, I agree with what you are saying. Sex is much better than violence any time. And yes kids will certainly find a way to rebel when the thumb on their head leaves an indentation(or just for the sake of rebelling )

Shooting--
The lack of control by adult and non adult marketers alike has made me reign in control on what my kids access on the web and email(of course, it seems most parents don't care as the computer makes for a cheap babysitter)
They have their own domains, but don't really use them, yet. The oldest is 8, and the email on the name is setup and functioning, but only allows email from their Mom, but usually she(Mom) calls them vs. using the mail.
Not sure where that came from, but maybe you could buy the kid his own domain(in the future it could be his calling card) vs. setting up a profile on a free space?

[Shooting_Maniac1]

Originally Posted by Alex

I am 90% sure that he lied about his age and put it over 18.

Oh really Alex? Fuck you buddy! Its set at 14 and in the text is says he is 9. I wrote it you dumb ass... can you even read? Funking moron/.... " 1 90% know"

You dont know 90% about anything let alone what I wrote or whats on his page. Dude... please

[Shooting_Maniac1]

Originally Posted by RogerV

I would rather them censor all the gangster shootem up shit that we glorify and the violence and hate the media continues to fill the kids heads with. If you really think about it its a natural act wether its vanilla sex or hardcore

If your not hurting someone who cares.

Kids are very smart now and days lets educate them instead of trying to shelter them from everyhting.

Totally NOT the point. Regardless if it is less harmful or not... its the LAW! To date there isnt any hard laws againts violence as you mentioned. However, theres very clear laws on porn and distributing it to minors and even clearer laws that define how adult materials should be sent via email. I hope that isnt your line of defence should you be popped for spaming kids Roger. Your Honor.... "I was only trying to educate the yong lads......" Somehow, I just dont see that holding up.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by Shooting_Maniac1

My only real gripe here is that there was no Can-spam guidelines... a hpa embeded in the email on open... and no warning page... at all. Spam all ya want for all I care, but at least, follow the rules.

Maybe they email from a country that doesn't have a can-spam act..

I'm not here to defend emailing , but if your from nigeria , who are we to tell you how you can email and how not to email.. its not against the law to send an email to someone you dont know with an hpa in nigeria .. we certainly dont follow nigerian laws..

and just to clarify , did this email go to an email address or your myspace mail ?? if its to an email , why do you think it has to do with myspace and not just a random email ?

[Shooting_Maniac1]

[QUOTE=SmokeyTheBear]Maybe they email from a country that doesn't have a can-spam act..

I'm not here to defend emailing , but if your from nigeria , who are we to tell you how you can email and how not to email.. its not against the law to send an email to someone you dont know with an hpa in nigeria .. we certainly dont follow nigerian laws..

and just to clarify , did this email go to an email address or your myspace mail ?? QUOTE]

Myspace mail.

[SmokeyTheBear]

either way i dont think any program should allow non can-spam compliant email period .. not because of the legality , but because of the ethics.

but thats why we need to know ALL the details before we slam people/companies..

for all we know maybe the person using that name before was 19 and then their profile got deleted and your nephews profile got made under the same name ?

[SmokeyTheBear]

like lets say im a dirty old man and my name is profile.myspace.com/maniacs_nephew and i get into all sorts of dirty stuff and sign up for stuff , then my name gets deleted or i delete my name or change it to somethingelse.

then you come along make the name maniacs_nephew and wonder why you get porn stuff .. maybe the other name was signed up under a group , maybe you signed up under a group.. many reasons.. thats why its MYSPACE who fucked up..

[RogerV]

Originally Posted by Shooting_Maniac1

Totally NOT the point. Regardless if it is less harmful or not... its the LAW! To date there isnt any hard laws againts violence as you mentioned. However, theres very clear laws on porn and distributing it to minors and even clearer laws that define how adult materials should be sent via email. I hope that isnt your line of defence should you be popped for spaming kids Roger. Your Honor.... "I was only trying to educate the yong lads......" Somehow, I just dont see that holding up.

we dont spam and i dont agree with most of the laws

there should be a warning to anything when someone is trying to shove shit in your face no matter what it is

Hell I hate to get spam or anything I didnt ask for..

Life is fucked up and parents need to educate there kids for the rough world ahead of them. I dont agree with kids looking at porn just like I dont agree with many other things

but like I said I was raised with european parents where nudity and sex was normal and not a sin

[Alex]

Originally Posted by Shooting_Maniac1

Oh really Alex? Fuck you buddy! Its set at 14 and in the text is says he is 9. I wrote it you dumb ass... can you even read? Funking moron/.... " 1 90% know"

You dont know 90% about anything let alone what I wrote or whats on his page. Dude... please

Either way.

9 is not 14.

You lied about the kids age. He is too young for myspace.

[Pete-KT]

Myspace is NOT for kids

[pornpf69]

Originally Posted by Shooting_Maniac1

Again, I thought I made it clear. I did a page for him. All his pics from growing up and all. Not for his person use at all. He does not have computer access at all, except when he is here and cant even got on my computers without my 100% supervison. I went in to update his page today since he is going to be here tomorrow When doing so.... I found this spam and a spacash spam in his email box. Crazy that I even have to defend this... period. No warning page, no notifcation that adult content was inside... a halfpage add of a naked chick taking it in the ass embedded in the email so its viewable on open. Yeah, thats all ok.... it must be the parents fault.

if kid are not allowed to join there why do they join?

would you blame a kid for entering a place where no minors are allowed and seeing things a kid should not see or would you blame the people who let him go in?

[Shooting_Maniac1]

Originally Posted by Pete-KT

Myspace is NOT for kids

LOLOL! Ignorant! Tell that to the 43 MILLION kids on it.

[RogerV]

Originally Posted by Pete-KT

Myspace is NOT for kids

very true if your going to try to teach your kids the future or the world then all the other shit that comes along from it will..

I take my daughter online but I take her to Disney and the kid networks.

when i feel she is ready to see more she will no law is going to tell me how to raise my children
the gov need to worry about more important things like running this coutry and creating growth and jobs etc.

[pornpf69]

Originally Posted by Alex

You lied about the kids age. He is too young for myspace.

100% agreed!

[Shooting_Maniac1]

Originally Posted by pornpf69

if kid are not allowed to join there why do they join?

would you blame a kid for entering a place where no minors are allowed and seeing things a kid should not see or would you blame the people who let him go in?

I dont blace the kid.. no. Look.. the law is clear on this. Split hairs all you want. Theres clear and very easy guidelines to follow when it comes to spam.... They were NOT followed here at all. While the point of your arguement might make alot of since to a spamming webmaster and a program that looks the other way.... I hardly think it will hold up in court. We cant argue the gray areas all day here, but in the end does our opinion really matter? No.

[Shooting_Maniac1]

Originally Posted by pornpf69

100% agreed!

Oh please... so its ok to send a 14 year old porn?. Why, because he lied about his age? His profile is set at 14 and im the bad guy here? "Oh but Your Honor...he lied, he is really nine years old, not the 14 that he claimed he was in his profile... thats why he got the porn spam.... cuz he lied about his age."



LOL! Thats some funny shit right there.

[Alex]

Originally Posted by Shooting_Maniac1

Oh please... so its ok to send a 14 year old porn?. Why, because he lied about his age? His profile is set at 14 and im the bad guy here? "Oh but Your Honor...he lied, he is really nine years old, not the 14 that he claimed he was in his profile... thats why he got the porn spam.... cuz he lied about his age."



LOL! Thats some funny shit right there.

Out of curiosity how long has your nephew had a myspace.

[Brujah]

I'm surprised some of these losers aren't spamming Neopets too.

[Young]

Originally Posted by Shooting_Maniac1

LOLOL! Ignorant! Tell that to the 43 MILLION kids on it.

MySpace isn't for kids dude. Maybe you should sign up for a membership and check it out. You can't even browse for anyone under 18 years old. They are not listed in the members directory. If he listed himself as 18 then thats his fault.

I can go a month on myspace before encountering anyone under 20...forget about under 18.

Maybe you should check it out before you just start passing it off as "for kids".

[media]

If they are 9 years old, set their age to 9 years old... their profile will be private after that and no one can see them on searches except those who they know and show their profile to...

I had my brother in law do this cuz he was getting solicited by creepy ass old perverts... Also make it so you must be a "friend" to get messages from anyone..

[emthree]

That's exactly how kids get kidnapped/raped and disposed in a river.