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woj · 04-25-2005, 10:55 AM

100.......,

Semi-Retired-Dave · 04-25-2005, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by abyss_al

and every year some troll has to come on and talk out of his ass... got real balls.. come to glendale, we'll meet you somewhere and you can fill us in how it never happened...

Just read this. So funny but yet, SO TRUE!

Fletch XXX · 04-25-2005, 10:59 AM

Glendale

the Armenian capitol of California.

Fresh · 04-25-2005, 10:59 AM

QUESTION........how would jews feel if the Holocaust was NOT recognized and just refered to as a War??????????

please answer

Just_Dave · 04-25-2005, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

yes I have Native American blood in me and my bloodline predates the Puritan invasion of America.

i happen to think its funny to see Armenian driving around Los Angeles with 2 foot cloth flags flying from their vehicle.

People rag on Americans and their "flag loving" - you should see these idiots.

Driving around blasting Tupac and Flying 2 foot Armenian flags out of both windows.

ridiculous.

shows what kind of person you are calling armenians idiots .

naitirps · 04-25-2005, 11:01 AM

i'd be pist, alot of my family was murdered, and those who made it out had to flee to south america from moracco

Just_Dave · 04-25-2005, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

Glendale

the Armenian capitol of California.

and one of the richest cities in california thanks to the armenians who cleaned it up

Fletch XXX · 04-25-2005, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Just_Dave

shows what kind of person you are calling armenians idiots .

i call everyone idiots.

here we go, i never thought id see Armenian pulling RACE CARD on a BBS

oh my how funny.

anyway, off to make money

enjoy

Just_Dave · 04-25-2005, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

i call everyone idiots.

here we go, i never thought id see Armenian pulling RACE CARD on a BBS

oh my how funny.

anyway, off to make money

enjoy

sorry but it seemed like you called armenians idiots

UniversalPass Pete · 04-25-2005, 11:04 AM

Bump for recognition of Armenian genocide!

Theo · 04-25-2005, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MegaGems

QUESTION........how would jews feel if the Holocaust was NOT recognized and just refered to as a War??????????

please answer

don't go that far, ask onlyreal if he recognises the invasion of Cyprus and the murdering of thousands civilians in 1974 as a criminal act.

UniversalPassLorence · 04-25-2005, 11:13 AM

The Polish Sejm (Poland's Parliament) unanimously passed on Tuesday a resolution officially acknowledging the Armenian genocide. The document, initiated by the Sejm Presidium, reads in part, "The memory of the crimes of those years is a moral duty of all the states and people of good will. In the process of Turkey's integration in the EU, the European Union demands the official recognition of the Armenian Genocide and establishment of relations with Armenia." The resolution is awaiting consideration in the Senate.

With this resolution, Poland became the 9th State of the European Union to do so, after Cyprus, Greece, Belgium, Sweden, Italy, France, Slovakia, and the Netherlands.

Turks will recognize the genocide and give land and $$$ back. It's been too long.

Lev · 04-25-2005, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by onlyreal

well another 24 april passed , lets see what will happen next year

btw soul_rebel we have really too much proofs for what turkish genocide(a real genocide not an exile like armenian lie. i am sure you never heard it.) that greeks done in 1915-1918 but is this really important after 100 years?

for ottoman empire thing, if u read history, we were the only modern country in middle-ages, and you guys get all this techno, kindness from us and china. so before saying rushless killers to think it again.

one more thing, ottoman empire was not just turks, when you check managers etc you see most of them are greeks, armenians, etc.

this is why there is too much historician saying ottoman empire 2nd rome empire. and yes it was fucked place after 1700s 1750s but it was bad for all, turks, greeks, armenians etc.

Yes it has passed and Turkey is starting to piss in its pants. Sending letters to the Armenian president asking to re-examine the past. WTF??? The past past, how can you re-examine it. Turkey is starting to panic and you can see that, when the Turkish parliament decided it needs to fight back because it is loosing the struggle. This year Poland recognized the Genocide and hopefully several countries will also do, including Bulgaria. This brings one step closer to
international recognition.

triumph · 04-25-2005, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

i call everyone idiots.

hmmmmm, interesting indeed.

Fletch XXX · 04-25-2005, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by triumph

hmmmmm, interesting indeed.

when i refer to some snotty nosed 15 year old in a car with more speakers in it than he has sense and he is blasting "FUck the world" by tupac, trying to look hard - yeah i call them idiots.

how you racists turn that into me being a racist is beyond me.

the kid was an idiot.

he is some fucking kid from the neighborhood who washes and waxes his car almost every other fucking day. He sits outside in the drive way BLASTING gangster rap, dangling 2 huge Armenian flags from his car. SCHOOL ROOM FLAGS!!! not stickers. fucking DRAPING CLOTH FLAGS flappin in the wind.

if thats not a fucking idiot what is?

Fletch XXX · 04-25-2005, 11:26 AM

letas not forget the home made "ARMENIAN PRIDE" decal across back window.

come on, that deserves "idiot" title if any

Lev · 04-25-2005, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

when i refer to some snotty nosed 15 year old in a car with more speakers in it than he has sense and he is blasting "FUck the world" by tupac, trying to look hard - yeah i call them idiots.

how you racists turn that into me being a racist is beyond me.

the kid was an idiot.

he is some fucking kid from the neighborhood who washes and waxes his car almost every other fucking day. He sits outside in the drive way BLASTING gangster rap, dangling 2 huge Armenian flags from his car. SCHOOL ROOM FLAGS!!! not stickers. fucking DRAPING CLOTH FLAGS flappin in the wind.

if thats not a fucking idiot what is?

well said

triumph · 04-25-2005, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

when i refer to some snotty nosed 15 year old in a car with more speakers in it than he has sense and he is blasting "FUck the world" by tupac, trying to look hard - yeah i call them idiots.

how you racists turn that into me being a racist is beyond me.

the kid was an idiot.

he is some fucking kid from the neighborhood who washes and waxes his car almost every other fucking day. He sits outside in the drive way BLASTING gangster rap, dangling 2 huge Armenian flags from his car. SCHOOL ROOM FLAGS!!! not stickers. fucking DRAPING CLOTH FLAGS flappin in the wind.

if thats not a fucking idiot what is?

Fletch I do agree, as I pointed earlier in the thread every race has bad apples, and idiots like that deserve to be called that!

martyVP · 04-25-2005, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by onlyreal

bacause you have good armenian friends, we need to accept this lie?

btw there is no real evidence other than shitty blue book(thats english propoganda book against ottomans in that times)

and yeah if you have millions to spend, in somehow i can show you america made genocide against eskimos.

thats that easy

btw my friends grandpa's also killed by armenians but is that important after 100 years?

btw another guys also asked what you get when you made world recognized this lie?

Are you on crack you stupid fuck?

Just get the fuck on up out of this thread real quick cocksucker..
You are a prime example of why us Armenians are upset. You are sitting here saying the Genocide never happened?"

Coward!!!

martyVP · 04-25-2005, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

Glendale

the Armenian capitol of California.

Seems like you are doing a great job of creating yourself some enemies IDIOT!!

Now you are a true fucking IDIOT!!

WWC · 04-25-2005, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Just_Dave

and one of the richest cities in california thanks to the armenians who cleaned it up

I heard Glendale has about $500,000,000 is reserves now...richest city in California

martyVP · 04-25-2005, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

when i refer to some snotty nosed 15 year old in a car with more speakers in it than he has sense and he is blasting "FUck the world" by tupac, trying to look hard - yeah i call them idiots.

how you racists turn that into me being a racist is beyond me.

the kid was an idiot.

he is some fucking kid from the neighborhood who washes and waxes his car almost every other fucking day. He sits outside in the drive way BLASTING gangster rap, dangling 2 huge Armenian flags from his car. SCHOOL ROOM FLAGS!!! not stickers. fucking DRAPING CLOTH FLAGS flappin in the wind.

if thats not a fucking idiot what is?

Well dude, if you were so smart, you would understand that these you are referring to are kids for one and most of them have been in this country less than 5 years from a third world country...they dont know any better yet or else they would not act that way but, you calling them idiots makes you no smarter..

davethetruth · 04-25-2005, 11:56 AM

I live in little armenia in Los Angeles. Yesterday was crazy!

onlyreal · 04-25-2005, 12:01 PM

wait wait wait in there

my mother is cryprus citizen and i am too. i hate openning this topic as i really want this cyprus shit end.

but i know what my mother lived in there, what u greek guys done to people in there.

btw do u really think Turkey turks really want keep this island? do you have any idea how much we are spending on there every year?

but we are still not sure what u gonna do in there after? i am still afraid u greek guys will come and kill people. you know that u know makarios etc

my mom and her parents lived everything in there and all say one thing if there were not any invasion, probably all turks in island are already died.

well this is totally different topic, but check atlilar village etc for what u have done in there.

i hope you wont accuse us for taking izmir back from u in 1923

next time

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Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel

don't go that far, ask onlyreal if he recognises the invasion of Cyprus and the murdering of thousands civilians in 1974 as a criminal act.

Theo · 04-25-2005, 12:08 PM

with you onlyreal nothing surprises me anymore...

BradM · 04-25-2005, 12:14 PM

America is a nation of immigrants. We are all proud of our roots.

Just_Dave · 04-25-2005, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BradM

America is a nation of immigrants. We are all proud of our roots.

well said

wes · 04-25-2005, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BradM

America is a nation of immigrants. We are all proud of our roots.

Yeah, and we should but only to a certain extent. I don't know maybe thats just my opinion.

abyss_al · 04-25-2005, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

you know what is hilarious... the "Armenian pride" thugs who ride around California with Armenian flags on their cars and blasting Armenian disco.

this is america fucker, take your Armenian flag and shove it up your ass.

and they wonder why their cars are vandalized

if i rode around with Confederate Flags on my vehicle they would harrass me, but they want to fly another countries flag on their car

no one ever has the balla to vandalize an armenian's car around here..

confederate flag... go to DC then talk...

nothing wrong with showing your true backgroung...

danielSC · 04-25-2005, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by onlyreal

well that was the funniest shit i have ever heard

btw read some ottoman empire history, you will see nobody cares for armenians jews turks,

what they actually did after seeing armenian guys killed tons of people(yeah like 700 800k(we have proofs for these also )) they exiled exiled armenian people to south(there is lots of commands in archive saying dont harm people while exile).

you guys will neverr get the mind of ottomans, they never think turks higher than other guys. even most they see lower.

it is normal in that time to exile people if they are harming other, it is hard for you to understand that but ottoman empire is not a turk based big country.

most emperors mothers are greek etc(dont ask me why there is no armenian girls, ask it to your hairy armenian girls

(yeah reality for turkish armenian girls they are hairy(moustaches

).

so if you want to understand what have done in there know that it is not a plan to kill all armenians or no way near to genocide. it is just a general procedure if people harms others then exile.

btw if armenians are brave enough to check ottoman archives they will see this.

one more thing for eu, no one ask in Turkish people do you really want eu?
just goverments mostly because of silly media dies for it.

i dont think most of turks will accept armenian genocide lie if eu says aceppt genocide lie to enter eu.

one more thing all your tryings just hurts armenian people in Turkey. Everyday i am with my armenian friends there is a news about genocide lie on tv, and thats just makes them bad.

First of all, no one wants anything from you!
The problem here is the mentality you're coming with.
It's too late for land, the nomads settled in and took it over a long time ago.
Money?? Once the Armenians were killed and sent away Turks walked into their homes called it their own, took over stores, etc, although yes Turkey should technically pay for the losses and they would be in debt for a long time. Me personally could careless for money.

The issue is mass murder. Turkey till this day is trying to sweep this issue under the rug. Denying the crimes committed by their ancestors.
1,500,000 million people being slaugthered, raped, tortured and sent into exile is not considered a crime? Ok yeah lets just forget about it... Life goes on yes, but Turkey as a nation needs to recognize the crimes.
They will sooner or later.

Aside from the genocide. You talk about hairy Armenian girls, Do you want me to post up pictures of your ancestors and the sultans? You people claim to be
of European origin, but you're forgetting the fact that your gradfathers adopted Greek and Armenian orphans to raise them as Turks, not counting the massive amounts they raped to change their identity. It's pretty easy to loose the slanted and squinched eyes with wide Altai cheek bones once you mix with Caucasian people. If turks did not mix with with people of Anatolian or European origin they would still look like their ancestors. Look at the men for example, their noses are not typically large, they are huge and bend down to their chins, that's beautiful right? I hate to judge but does Turkey have anything significant? Have they even contributed a quarter of what Armenians have to the world?? Comparing the two races, There are way more Turks than Armenians in the world but who has accomplished more?Enough said. Thank You!!

Half the country did not and still does not have human rights, Kemal decides to adopt a different alphabet to blend Turkic people into European culture.
Can't happen.

Remember every man is created equal that's how it should stay, maybe if humans admitted to their crimes and realized what they had done people would not still be butchering eachother.

Next time you decide to insult a race, remember... The race you're trying to insult has proof read the insults before you even wrote them.

Take care,

triumph · 04-25-2005, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by danielSC

First of all, no one wants anything from you!
The problem here is the mentality you're coming with.
It's too late for land, the nomads settled in and took it over a long time ago.
Money?? Once the Armenians were killed and sent away Turks walked into their homes called it their own, took over stores, etc, although yes Turkey should technically pay for the losses and they would be in debt for a long time. Me personally could careless for money.

The issue is mass murder. Turkey till this day is trying to sweep this issue under the rug. Denying the crimes committed by their ancestors.
1,500,000 million people being slaugthered, raped, tortured and sent into exile is not considered a crime? Ok yeah lets just forget about it... Life goes on yes, but Turkey as a nation needs to recognize the crimes.
They will sooner or later.

Aside from the genocide. You talk about hairy Armenian girls, Do you want me to post up pictures of your ancestors and the sultans? You people claim to be
of European origin, but you're forgetting the fact that your gradfathers adopted Greek and Armenian orphans to raise them as Turks, not counting the massive amounts they raped to change their identity. It's pretty easy to loose the slanted and squinched eyes with wide Altai cheek bones once you mix with Caucasian people. If turks did not mix with with people of Anatolian or European origin they would still look like their ancestors. Look at the men for example, their noses are not typically large, they are huge and bend down to their chins, that's beautiful right? I hate to judge but does Turkey have anything significant? Have they even contributed a quarter of what Armenians have to the world?? Comparing the two races, There are way more Turks than Armenians in the world but who has accomplished more?Enough said. Thank You!!

Half the country did not and still does not have human rights, Kemal decides to adopt a different alphabet to blend Turkic people into European culture.
Can't happen.

Remember every man is created equal that's how it should stay, maybe if humans admitted to their crimes and realized what they had done people would not still be butchering eachother.

Next time you decide to insult a race, remember... The race you're trying to insult has proof read the insults before you even wrote them.

Take care,

very well said!

Just_Dave · 04-25-2005, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by triumph

very well said!

i agree well said

triumph · 04-26-2005, 11:29 AM

bump for recognition! We will not forget, its been 90 years!

Just_Dave · 04-26-2005, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by triumph

bump for recognition! We will not forget, its been 90 years!

good bump

wjxxx · 04-26-2005, 11:47 AM

bump bump

axelcat · 04-26-2005, 02:26 PM

bumpity bump we will never go away

naitirps · 04-26-2005, 03:06 PM

bump for ya.

sweetME · 04-26-2005, 03:19 PM

The genocide and the problems we're having with the recognition of it hurts me so bad. It hurts me and it will hurt my kids as well. I'll make sure they'll know the history of their great grandparents and will be involved to make a difference one day. I'm proud of all Armenians in this thread.

Just_Dave · 04-26-2005, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by sweetME

The genocide and the problems we're having with the recognition of it hurts me so bad. It hurts me and it will hurt my kids as well. I'll make sure they'll know the history of their great grandparents and will be involved to make a difference one day. I'm proud of all Armenians in this thread.

thanks for the support

WWC · 04-27-2005, 12:58 AM

Armenians are good people , who work hard, aggressive and smart in business...just to name you one of many :

Kirk Kerkorian who owns over 50% of Vegas! Chrysler! MGM! and much more...

kmanrox · 04-27-2005, 01:06 AM

i dont get it... were you in the Army?
i was in the Marines..

;-)

Just_Dave · 04-27-2005, 01:03 PM

here was a article from yahoo news i saw it on the front page of yahoo

Turks Confront Dark Chapter of Armenian Massacres

Tue Apr 26, 9:07 AM ET

By Ayla Jean Yackley

ISTANBUL (Reuters) - The secret guarded by Turkish writer Fethiye Cetin's family for three generations is now helping to break a nation's silence over one of its darkest eras.

Cetin's late grandmother Seher was not the typical Muslim woman she seemed. She was born with the name Heranoush, the daughter of Christian Armenians before internecine violence during World War One tore the family apart.

Seher's story is now a book that tells how, at the age of 9, she watched Ottoman soldiers storm her village in eastern Turkey, rounding up the men before slitting their throats. The women and children were forced on a march to Syria.

Most died of disease and starvation along the way. Seher was snatched from her mother by a military officer, who raised her as a Muslim among eastern Turkey's largely Kurdish population.

For many Turks, Cetin's heart-rending book "My Grandmother," published in November and now in its fifth edition, has put a human face on a 20th century tragedy that has largely become political polemic between Turkey and its neighbor Armenia.

"This issue has been debated in terms of numbers and terminology, and the people who suffered were forgotten. My aim was to tell the human story," said Cetin, a 55-year-old lawyer.

Armenians around the world on Sunday mark the 90th anniversary of the start of what they say was a genocide perpetrated by Turks that claimed 1.5 million Armenian lives.

Turkey, founded upon the ruins of the Ottoman Empire, denies a systematic campaign to annihilate the Armenians. It says hundreds of thousands of Turks as well as Armenians died in partisan fighting amid the chaos of the empire's collapse.

TABOO SUBJECT

As the country prepares to start European Union entry talks later this year, it is forced to grapple with a subject that was strictly taboo to date. Some European politicians have called on Turkey to acknowledge the killings were a genocide, and the EU wants to see Turkey open diplomatic relations with Armenia.

Proudly nationalistic, most Turks see recognition as tantamount to admitting a historical lie.

"A vast majority cannot accept this, and they have no reason to," said Gunduz Aktan, a former senior diplomat. "This creates tension, and it's normal for there to be nationalist reaction."

Death threats against Turkey's most celebrated novelist Orhan Pamuk, who said earlier this year that a million Armenians had been wiped out, reveal the pitch that fervor has reached.

Turkey's 65,000 ethnic Armenians are "on a knife's edge," anxious the debate may spark a backlash against the beleaguered community, said Hrant Dink, editor of the Armenian weekly Agos.

"We never deny our own history. But Armenians are unable to discuss it for fear it will harm the community's existence."

Schoolbooks here describe Armenians as a kind of fifth column, pawns of imperialists who attacked Turks, and say Armenians died during a mass expulsion.

"If we acknowledge the genocide, we have to declare some of the heroes of the Turkish Republic were murderers and thieves," says Taner Akcam of the University of Minnesota, one of a handful of Turkish scholars who argue genocide was committed.

"But we will never have an open, democratic society without confronting the historical injustices."

END OF A CULTURE

There are signs of growing curiosity about this shadowy chapter in history. "People are beginning to ask, 'What really happened? Where did all of the (Armenians) go?"' said Dink.

What is difficult to dispute is that the strife, followed by decades of assimilation and poverty, contributed to the end of Armenian culture in eastern Turkey, where it had thrived for more than 3,000 years.

Massacres "happened in front of everyone's eyes. They were deported through villages. People saw them dying on the road. Those collective memories have now been triggered," Cetin said.

EU-inspired reforms allowing freer speech have spurred some discussion, albeit limited, in the media and among intellectuals of an issue that could have previously brought prosecution.

Istanbul's normally taciturn Armenian patriarch earlier this year called the atrocities of 1915 "the Great Disaster."

Still loath to admit wrongdoing, the government has nevertheless called recently for an international probe and the Turkish parliament held an unprecedented debate on the issue.

Cetin said she resisted publishing her book until she felt the climate in Turkey had improved enough to tolerate it.

Like her granddaughter, Seher too was at first reluctant to share her story, only telling Cetin when she was 70 years old.

But she never forgot the tragedy. Though Seher no longer spoke Armenian, she remembered family names for more than a half-century and asked Cetin to locate her surviving relatives in the United States.

Seher's children gave her a Muslim burial when she died in 2000. Her legacy to Cetin is "a rich identity. Sometimes I feel Armenian, sometimes Kurdish and sometimes Turkish."

NichePay_Manny · 04-27-2005, 01:25 PM

Graet thread DAVE

Just_Dave · 04-27-2005, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by NichePay_Manny

Graet thread DAVE

thanks manny

adonis · 04-27-2005, 01:37 PM

[QUOTE=Just_Dave]To this day Turkey denies the Armenian genocide but history cannot be hidden or rewritten. Our mission is to inform the world about this tragedy. The issue bares no prejudice against the Turkish people or government, but the Armenian genocide needs to recognized by the world population
[QUOTE]

You are living on a lie, a big lie. Armenia is weird and poor country, so you want a fruitful land. Do you think you get Eastern part of Turkey even if this so-called genocide is recognized by the countries of which you're kissing ass? This will not happen. Turkey has opened a vast archive about the issue, and has invited Armenia to do same to build a platform of historians for negotiations. Guess what, Armenian president rejected this offer. Armenians have no proof, they're just crying in vain.

And, the movie Ararat was a big flop, only Armenians bought a ticket. Spend your money for your people.

abyss_al · 04-27-2005, 01:39 PM

[QUOTE=adonis][QUOTE=Just_Dave]To this day Turkey denies the Armenian genocide but history cannot be hidden or rewritten. Our mission is to inform the world about this tragedy. The issue bares no prejudice against the Turkish people or government, but the Armenian genocide needs to recognized by the world population

Quote:

You are living on a lie, a big lie. Armenia is weird and poor country, so you want a fruitful land. Do you think you get Eastern part of Turkey even if this so-called genocide is recognized by the countries of which you're kissing ass? This will not happen. Turkey has opened a vast archive about the issue, and has invited Armenia to do same to build a platform of historians for negotiations. Guess what, Armenian president rejected this offer. Armenians have no proof, they're just crying in vain.

And, the movie Ararat was a big flop, only Armenians bought a ticket. Spend your money for your people.

wow... another fucking retard... i also wish your parents wore a rubber..

Just_Dave · 04-27-2005, 02:20 PM

[QUOTE=adonis][QUOTE=Just_Dave]To this day Turkey denies the Armenian genocide but history cannot be hidden or rewritten. Our mission is to inform the world about this tragedy. The issue bares no prejudice against the Turkish people or government, but the Armenian genocide needs to recognized by the world population

Quote:

You are living on a lie, a big lie. Armenia is weird and poor country, so you want a fruitful land. Do you think you get Eastern part of Turkey even if this so-called genocide is recognized by the countries of which you're kissing ass? This will not happen. Turkey has opened a vast archive about the issue, and has invited Armenia to do same to build a platform of historians for negotiations. Guess what, Armenian president rejected this offer. Armenians have no proof, they're just crying in vain.

And, the movie Ararat was a big flop, only Armenians bought a ticket. Spend your money for your people.

denial is all i have to say to you

Manga1 · 04-27-2005, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onlyreal

wait wait wait in there

my mother is cryprus citizen and i am too. i hate openning this topic as i really want this cyprus shit end.

but i know what my mother lived in there, what u greek guys done to people in there.

btw do u really think Turkey turks really want keep this island? do you have any idea how much we are spending on there every year?

but we are still not sure what u gonna do in there after? i am still afraid u greek guys will come and kill people. you know that u know makarios etc

my mom and her parents lived everything in there and all say one thing if there were not any invasion, probably all turks in island are already died.

well this is totally different topic, but check atlilar village etc for what u have done in there.

i hope you wont accuse us for taking izmir back from u in 1923

next time

Fuck you! you mother fucking turkish cocksucker! Do you know how many Cypriot families (Greeks, the real Cypriots) I can show you who had their homes stolen and came to North America as refugees? Plenty! Don't try and pull your bullshit propaganda here you fucking barbarian bitch.

And the Armenian Genocide is a historical fact. But then again you would need to be able to read to realize that.

SweetArmo · 04-28-2005, 12:31 AM

Quote:

You are living on a lie, a big lie. Armenia is weird and poor country, so you want a fruitful land. Do you think you get Eastern part of Turkey even if this so-called genocide is recognized by the countries of which you're kissing ass? This will not happen. Turkey has opened a vast archive about the issue, and has invited Armenia to do same to build a platform of historians for negotiations. Guess what, Armenian president rejected this offer. Armenians have no proof, they're just crying in vain.

And, the movie Ararat was a big flop, only Armenians bought a ticket. Spend your money for your people.

You're so wrong...it's sad how clueless you really are

martyVP · 04-28-2005, 12:43 AM

[QUOTE=abyss_al][QUOTE=adonis]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just_Dave

To this day Turkey denies the Armenian genocide but history cannot be hidden or rewritten. Our mission is to inform the world about this tragedy. The issue bares no prejudice against the Turkish people or government, but the Armenian genocide needs to recognized by the world population

wow... another fucking retard... i also wish your parents wore a rubber..

ROFL

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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04-25-2005, 11:01 AM	#106
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04-25-2005, 11:04 AM	#110
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04-25-2005, 11:13 AM	#112
UniversalPassLorence Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Califonia Posts: 3,721	The Polish Sejm (Poland's Parliament) unanimously passed on Tuesday a resolution officially acknowledging the Armenian genocide. The document, initiated by the Sejm Presidium, reads in part, "The memory of the crimes of those years is a moral duty of all the states and people of good will. In the process of Turkey's integration in the EU, the European Union demands the official recognition of the Armenian Genocide and establishment of relations with Armenia." The resolution is awaiting consideration in the Senate. With this resolution, Poland became the 9th State of the European Union to do so, after Cyprus, Greece, Belgium, Sweden, Italy, France, Slovakia, and the Netherlands. Turks will recognize the genocide and give land and $$$ back. It's been too long. __________________ $25.00 PPS for $1.00 Trial Making Webmasters Money Since 1997 ICQ: 305090349

04-25-2005, 11:26 AM	#116
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04-25-2005, 11:56 AM	#123
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04-25-2005, 12:08 PM	#125
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04-25-2005, 12:14 PM	#126
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04-26-2005, 11:29 AM	#133
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04-26-2005, 03:06 PM	#137
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04-26-2005, 03:19 PM	#138
sweetME Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,162	The genocide and the problems we're having with the recognition of it hurts me so bad. It hurts me and it will hurt my kids as well. I'll make sure they'll know the history of their great grandparents and will be involved to make a difference one day. I'm proud of all Armenians in this thread. __________________ Email: questions @ Prodinix.com \| Site: Prodinix.com

04-27-2005, 12:58 AM	#140
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04-27-2005, 01:06 AM	#141
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04-27-2005, 01:03 PM	#142
Just_Dave Its almost time Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 13,009	here was a article from yahoo news i saw it on the front page of yahoo Turks Confront Dark Chapter of Armenian Massacres Tue Apr 26, 9:07 AM ET By Ayla Jean Yackley ISTANBUL (Reuters) - The secret guarded by Turkish writer Fethiye Cetin's family for three generations is now helping to break a nation's silence over one of its darkest eras. Cetin's late grandmother Seher was not the typical Muslim woman she seemed. She was born with the name Heranoush, the daughter of Christian Armenians before internecine violence during World War One tore the family apart. Seher's story is now a book that tells how, at the age of 9, she watched Ottoman soldiers storm her village in eastern Turkey, rounding up the men before slitting their throats. The women and children were forced on a march to Syria. Most died of disease and starvation along the way. Seher was snatched from her mother by a military officer, who raised her as a Muslim among eastern Turkey's largely Kurdish population. For many Turks, Cetin's heart-rending book "My Grandmother," published in November and now in its fifth edition, has put a human face on a 20th century tragedy that has largely become political polemic between Turkey and its neighbor Armenia. "This issue has been debated in terms of numbers and terminology, and the people who suffered were forgotten. My aim was to tell the human story," said Cetin, a 55-year-old lawyer. Armenians around the world on Sunday mark the 90th anniversary of the start of what they say was a genocide perpetrated by Turks that claimed 1.5 million Armenian lives. Turkey, founded upon the ruins of the Ottoman Empire, denies a systematic campaign to annihilate the Armenians. It says hundreds of thousands of Turks as well as Armenians died in partisan fighting amid the chaos of the empire's collapse. TABOO SUBJECT As the country prepares to start European Union entry talks later this year, it is forced to grapple with a subject that was strictly taboo to date. Some European politicians have called on Turkey to acknowledge the killings were a genocide, and the EU wants to see Turkey open diplomatic relations with Armenia. Proudly nationalistic, most Turks see recognition as tantamount to admitting a historical lie. "A vast majority cannot accept this, and they have no reason to," said Gunduz Aktan, a former senior diplomat. "This creates tension, and it's normal for there to be nationalist reaction." Death threats against Turkey's most celebrated novelist Orhan Pamuk, who said earlier this year that a million Armenians had been wiped out, reveal the pitch that fervor has reached. Turkey's 65,000 ethnic Armenians are "on a knife's edge," anxious the debate may spark a backlash against the beleaguered community, said Hrant Dink, editor of the Armenian weekly Agos. "We never deny our own history. But Armenians are unable to discuss it for fear it will harm the community's existence." Schoolbooks here describe Armenians as a kind of fifth column, pawns of imperialists who attacked Turks, and say Armenians died during a mass expulsion. "If we acknowledge the genocide, we have to declare some of the heroes of the Turkish Republic were murderers and thieves," says Taner Akcam of the University of Minnesota, one of a handful of Turkish scholars who argue genocide was committed. "But we will never have an open, democratic society without confronting the historical injustices." END OF A CULTURE There are signs of growing curiosity about this shadowy chapter in history. "People are beginning to ask, 'What really happened? Where did all of the (Armenians) go?"' said Dink. What is difficult to dispute is that the strife, followed by decades of assimilation and poverty, contributed to the end of Armenian culture in eastern Turkey, where it had thrived for more than 3,000 years. Massacres "happened in front of everyone's eyes. They were deported through villages. People saw them dying on the road. Those collective memories have now been triggered," Cetin said. EU-inspired reforms allowing freer speech have spurred some discussion, albeit limited, in the media and among intellectuals of an issue that could have previously brought prosecution. Istanbul's normally taciturn Armenian patriarch earlier this year called the atrocities of 1915 "the Great Disaster." Still loath to admit wrongdoing, the government has nevertheless called recently for an international probe and the Turkish parliament held an unprecedented debate on the issue. Cetin said she resisted publishing her book until she felt the climate in Turkey had improved enough to tolerate it. Like her granddaughter, Seher too was at first reluctant to share her story, only telling Cetin when she was 70 years old. But she never forgot the tragedy. Though Seher no longer spoke Armenian, she remembered family names for more than a half-century and asked Cetin to locate her surviving relatives in the United States. Seher's children gave her a Muslim burial when she died in 2000. Her legacy to Cetin is "a rich identity. Sometimes I feel Armenian, sometimes Kurdish and sometimes Turkish."

04-27-2005, 01:25 PM	#143
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04-27-2005, 01:37 PM	#145
adonis Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 231	[QUOTE=Just_Dave]To this day Turkey denies the Armenian genocide but history cannot be hidden or rewritten. Our mission is to inform the world about this tragedy. The issue bares no prejudice against the Turkish people or government, but the Armenian genocide needs to recognized by the world population [QUOTE] You are living on a lie, a big lie. Armenia is weird and poor country, so you want a fruitful land. Do you think you get Eastern part of Turkey even if this so-called genocide is recognized by the countries of which you're kissing ass? This will not happen. Turkey has opened a vast archive about the issue, and has invited Armenia to do same to build a platform of historians for negotiations. Guess what, Armenian president rejected this offer. Armenians have no proof, they're just crying in vain. And, the movie Ararat was a big flop, only Armenians bought a ticket. Spend your money for your people.