Armenian Genocide

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Just read this. So funny but yet, SO TRUE!

Glendale

the Armenian capitol of California.

QUESTION........how would jews feel if the Holocaust was NOT recognized and just refered to as a War??????????

please answer

shows what kind of person you are calling armenians idiots .

i'd be pist, alot of my family was murdered, and those who made it out had to flee to south america from moracco

and one of the richest cities in california thanks to the armenians who cleaned it up

i call everyone idiots.

here we go, i never thought id see Armenian pulling RACE CARD on a BBS

oh my how funny.

anyway, off to make money

enjoy

sorry but it seemed like you called armenians idiots

Bump for recognition of Armenian genocide!

don't go that far, ask onlyreal if he recognises the invasion of Cyprus and the murdering of thousands civilians in 1974 as a criminal act.

The Polish Sejm (Poland's Parliament) unanimously passed on Tuesday a resolution officially acknowledging the Armenian genocide. The document, initiated by the Sejm Presidium, reads in part, "The memory of the crimes of those years is a moral duty of all the states and people of good will. In the process of Turkey's integration in the EU, the European Union demands the official recognition of the Armenian Genocide and establishment of relations with Armenia." The resolution is awaiting consideration in the Senate.

With this resolution, Poland became the 9th State of the European Union to do so, after Cyprus, Greece, Belgium, Sweden, Italy, France, Slovakia, and the Netherlands.

Turks will recognize the genocide and give land and $$$ back. It's been too long.

Yes it has passed and Turkey is starting to piss in its pants. Sending letters to the Armenian president asking to re-examine the past. WTF??? The past past, how can you re-examine it. Turkey is starting to panic and you can see that, when the Turkish parliament decided it needs to fight back because it is loosing the struggle. This year Poland recognized the Genocide and hopefully several countries will also do, including Bulgaria. This brings one step closer to
international recognition.

hmmmmm, interesting indeed.

when i refer to some snotty nosed 15 year old in a car with more speakers in it than he has sense and he is blasting "FUck the world" by tupac, trying to look hard - yeah i call them idiots.

how you racists turn that into me being a racist is beyond me.

the kid was an idiot.

he is some fucking kid from the neighborhood who washes and waxes his car almost every other fucking day. He sits outside in the drive way BLASTING gangster rap, dangling 2 huge Armenian flags from his car. SCHOOL ROOM FLAGS!!! not stickers. fucking DRAPING CLOTH FLAGS flappin in the wind.

if thats not a fucking idiot what is?

letas not forget the home made "ARMENIAN PRIDE" decal across back window.

come on, that deserves "idiot" title if any

well said

Fletch I do agree, as I pointed earlier in the thread every race has bad apples, and idiots like that deserve to be called that!

Are you on crack you stupid fuck?

Just get the fuck on up out of this thread real quick cocksucker..
You are a prime example of why us Armenians are upset. You are sitting here saying the Genocide never happened?"

Coward!!!

Seems like you are doing a great job of creating yourself some enemies IDIOT!!

Now you are a true fucking IDIOT!!

I heard Glendale has about $500,000,000 is reserves now...richest city in California

Well dude, if you were so smart, you would understand that these you are referring to are kids for one and most of them have been in this country less than 5 years from a third world country...they dont know any better yet or else they would not act that way but, you calling them idiots makes you no smarter..

I live in little armenia in Los Angeles. Yesterday was crazy!

wait wait wait in there

my mother is cryprus citizen and i am too. i hate openning this topic as i really want this cyprus shit end.

but i know what my mother lived in there, what u greek guys done to people in there.

btw do u really think Turkey turks really want keep this island? do you have any idea how much we are spending on there every year?

but we are still not sure what u gonna do in there after? i am still afraid u greek guys will come and kill people. you know that u know makarios etc

my mom and her parents lived everything in there and all say one thing if there were not any invasion, probably all turks in island are already died.

well this is totally different topic, but check atlilar village etc for what u have done in there.

i hope you wont accuse us for taking izmir back from u in 1923 next time

with you onlyreal nothing surprises me anymore...

America is a nation of immigrants. We are all proud of our roots.

well said

Yeah, and we should but only to a certain extent. I don't know maybe thats just my opinion.

no one ever has the balla to vandalize an armenian's car around here..

confederate flag... go to DC then talk...

nothing wrong with showing your true backgroung...

First of all, no one wants anything from you!
The problem here is the mentality you're coming with.
It's too late for land, the nomads settled in and took it over a long time ago.
Money?? Once the Armenians were killed and sent away Turks walked into their homes called it their own, took over stores, etc, although yes Turkey should technically pay for the losses and they would be in debt for a long time. Me personally could careless for money.

The issue is mass murder. Turkey till this day is trying to sweep this issue under the rug. Denying the crimes committed by their ancestors.
1,500,000 million people being slaugthered, raped, tortured and sent into exile is not considered a crime? Ok yeah lets just forget about it... Life goes on yes, but Turkey as a nation needs to recognize the crimes.
They will sooner or later.

Aside from the genocide. You talk about hairy Armenian girls, Do you want me to post up pictures of your ancestors and the sultans? You people claim to be
of European origin, but you're forgetting the fact that your gradfathers adopted Greek and Armenian orphans to raise them as Turks, not counting the massive amounts they raped to change their identity. It's pretty easy to loose the slanted and squinched eyes with wide Altai cheek bones once you mix with Caucasian people. If turks did not mix with with people of Anatolian or European origin they would still look like their ancestors. Look at the men for example, their noses are not typically large, they are huge and bend down to their chins, that's beautiful right? I hate to judge but does Turkey have anything significant? Have they even contributed a quarter of what Armenians have to the world?? Comparing the two races, There are way more Turks than Armenians in the world but who has accomplished more?Enough said. Thank You!!

Half the country did not and still does not have human rights, Kemal decides to adopt a different alphabet to blend Turkic people into European culture.
Can't happen.

Remember every man is created equal that's how it should stay, maybe if humans admitted to their crimes and realized what they had done people would not still be butchering eachother.

Next time you decide to insult a race, remember... The race you're trying to insult has proof read the insults before you even wrote them.

Take care,

very well said!

i agree well said

bump for recognition! We will not forget, its been 90 years!

good bump

bump bump

bumpity bump we will never go away

bump for ya.

The genocide and the problems we're having with the recognition of it hurts me so bad. It hurts me and it will hurt my kids as well. I'll make sure they'll know the history of their great grandparents and will be involved to make a difference one day. I'm proud of all Armenians in this thread.

thanks for the support

Armenians are good people , who work hard, aggressive and smart in business...just to name you one of many :

Kirk Kerkorian who owns over 50% of Vegas! Chrysler! MGM! and much more...

i dont get it... were you in the Army?
i was in the Marines..








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here was a article from yahoo news i saw it on the front page of yahoo


Turks Confront Dark Chapter of Armenian Massacres

Tue Apr 26, 9:07 AM ET

By Ayla Jean Yackley

ISTANBUL (Reuters) - The secret guarded by Turkish writer Fethiye Cetin's family for three generations is now helping to break a nation's silence over one of its darkest eras.



Cetin's late grandmother Seher was not the typical Muslim woman she seemed. She was born with the name Heranoush, the daughter of Christian Armenians before internecine violence during World War One tore the family apart.


Seher's story is now a book that tells how, at the age of 9, she watched Ottoman soldiers storm her village in eastern Turkey, rounding up the men before slitting their throats. The women and children were forced on a march to Syria.


Most died of disease and starvation along the way. Seher was snatched from her mother by a military officer, who raised her as a Muslim among eastern Turkey's largely Kurdish population.


For many Turks, Cetin's heart-rending book "My Grandmother," published in November and now in its fifth edition, has put a human face on a 20th century tragedy that has largely become political polemic between Turkey and its neighbor Armenia.


"This issue has been debated in terms of numbers and terminology, and the people who suffered were forgotten. My aim was to tell the human story," said Cetin, a 55-year-old lawyer.


Armenians around the world on Sunday mark the 90th anniversary of the start of what they say was a genocide perpetrated by Turks that claimed 1.5 million Armenian lives.


Turkey, founded upon the ruins of the Ottoman Empire, denies a systematic campaign to annihilate the Armenians. It says hundreds of thousands of Turks as well as Armenians died in partisan fighting amid the chaos of the empire's collapse.


TABOO SUBJECT


As the country prepares to start European Union entry talks later this year, it is forced to grapple with a subject that was strictly taboo to date. Some European politicians have called on Turkey to acknowledge the killings were a genocide, and the EU wants to see Turkey open diplomatic relations with Armenia.


Proudly nationalistic, most Turks see recognition as tantamount to admitting a historical lie.


"A vast majority cannot accept this, and they have no reason to," said Gunduz Aktan, a former senior diplomat. "This creates tension, and it's normal for there to be nationalist reaction."


Death threats against Turkey's most celebrated novelist Orhan Pamuk, who said earlier this year that a million Armenians had been wiped out, reveal the pitch that fervor has reached.


Turkey's 65,000 ethnic Armenians are "on a knife's edge," anxious the debate may spark a backlash against the beleaguered community, said Hrant Dink, editor of the Armenian weekly Agos.


"We never deny our own history. But Armenians are unable to discuss it for fear it will harm the community's existence."


Schoolbooks here describe Armenians as a kind of fifth column, pawns of imperialists who attacked Turks, and say Armenians died during a mass expulsion.


"If we acknowledge the genocide, we have to declare some of the heroes of the Turkish Republic were murderers and thieves," says Taner Akcam of the University of Minnesota, one of a handful of Turkish scholars who argue genocide was committed.





"But we will never have an open, democratic society without confronting the historical injustices."

END OF A CULTURE

There are signs of growing curiosity about this shadowy chapter in history. "People are beginning to ask, 'What really happened? Where did all of the (Armenians) go?"' said Dink.

What is difficult to dispute is that the strife, followed by decades of assimilation and poverty, contributed to the end of Armenian culture in eastern Turkey, where it had thrived for more than 3,000 years.

Massacres "happened in front of everyone's eyes. They were deported through villages. People saw them dying on the road. Those collective memories have now been triggered," Cetin said.

EU-inspired reforms allowing freer speech have spurred some discussion, albeit limited, in the media and among intellectuals of an issue that could have previously brought prosecution.

Istanbul's normally taciturn Armenian patriarch earlier this year called the atrocities of 1915 "the Great Disaster."

Still loath to admit wrongdoing, the government has nevertheless called recently for an international probe and the Turkish parliament held an unprecedented debate on the issue.

Cetin said she resisted publishing her book until she felt the climate in Turkey had improved enough to tolerate it.

Like her granddaughter, Seher too was at first reluctant to share her story, only telling Cetin when she was 70 years old.

But she never forgot the tragedy. Though Seher no longer spoke Armenian, she remembered family names for more than a half-century and asked Cetin to locate her surviving relatives in the United States.

Seher's children gave her a Muslim burial when she died in 2000. Her legacy to Cetin is "a rich identity. Sometimes I feel Armenian, sometimes Kurdish and sometimes Turkish."

Graet thread DAVE

thanks manny

[QUOTE=Just_Dave]To this day Turkey denies the Armenian genocide but history cannot be hidden or rewritten. Our mission is to inform the world about this tragedy. The issue bares no prejudice against the Turkish people or government, but the Armenian genocide needs to recognized by the world population
[QUOTE]

You are living on a lie, a big lie. Armenia is weird and poor country, so you want a fruitful land. Do you think you get Eastern part of Turkey even if this so-called genocide is recognized by the countries of which you're kissing ass? This will not happen. Turkey has opened a vast archive about the issue, and has invited Armenia to do same to build a platform of historians for negotiations. Guess what, Armenian president rejected this offer. Armenians have no proof, they're just crying in vain.

And, the movie Ararat was a big flop, only Armenians bought a ticket. Spend your money for your people.

[QUOTE=adonis][QUOTE=Just_Dave]To this day Turkey denies the Armenian genocide but history cannot be hidden or rewritten. Our mission is to inform the world about this tragedy. The issue bares no prejudice against the Turkish people or government, but the Armenian genocide needs to recognized by the world population
wow... another fucking retard... i also wish your parents wore a rubber..

[QUOTE=adonis][QUOTE=Just_Dave]To this day Turkey denies the Armenian genocide but history cannot be hidden or rewritten. Our mission is to inform the world about this tragedy. The issue bares no prejudice against the Turkish people or government, but the Armenian genocide needs to recognized by the world population
denial is all i have to say to you

Fuck you! you mother fucking turkish cocksucker! Do you know how many Cypriot families (Greeks, the real Cypriots) I can show you who had their homes stolen and came to North America as refugees? Plenty! Don't try and pull your bullshit propaganda here you fucking barbarian bitch.

And the Armenian Genocide is a historical fact. But then again you would need to be able to read to realize that.

You're so wrong...it's sad how clueless you really are

[QUOTE=abyss_al][QUOTE=adonis]
ROFL

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