Kerry/Edwards VS Bush/cheney

[zanycash Pete]

Quick poll, where does your vote stand now?

Which candidates would you vote for if the elections were held today?

[Rankings]

dont vote

[Corleone]

[zanycash Pete]

O yeah! please post your comments/bump this post! it will be interesting to view the results!

[LauraLee]

In case some of you are forgetting, we work in the adult industry, and ummm, err... Bush is against what we do.

ok, back to normally scheduled programming.

[Corleone]

[jscott]

i would rather have a different choice for president but out of the 2 choices we have 51% of my brain wants Kerry & 49% for Bush, so I could change my decision possibly

[benc]

How was your adult business affected in the previous 4 years out of curiosity?

[tyler86ed]

I believe theses results may be slightly skewed as most adult webmasters, stand towards the left. Should be an interesting vote though.

[zanycash Pete]

Originally posted by benc
How was your adult business affected in the previous 4 years out of curiosity?

So far the effect on our business have not come so much from government regulation, but rather from Visa/mstcd, and more savy porn surfers

But the regs are coming and for that we are all probably better of with the Democrats

[ZanyCash Larry]

Democrats are better for the porn industry

[CraigA]

I honestly can't wait for the real campaigning to begin. I think Kerry's choice of John Edwards for VP is fantastic. He's very charasmatic and has the ability to connect with real people, not just the fat cat elitists that Bush terms "his base."
And when Edwards and Cheney have their debate, it won't even be close. Edwards is a far more accomplished orator than Cheney. You may have to actually see if Mr. Haliburton is actually still breathing.
What really cracks me up is the Republican response after the announcement was made. The term I keep hearing repeated over and over is liberal, like being a liberal is akin to having a disease or something.
Neither person on the Democratic ticket is a true liberal, though each man has some liberal ideas and messages. But even if both of them were true left wing liberals, I'd take that any day over lying, deceitful, election tampering, bordering on criminal right wing destroyers of the economy, personal freedoms and a number of other items too long to list.
Time to take out the trash.

[CraigA]

Originally posted by zanycash Pete
So far the effect on our business have not come so much from government regulation, but rather from Visa/mstcd, and more savy porn surfers

But the regs are coming and for that we are all probably better of with the Democrats

And where do you think the pressure on the credit card companies came from? Did you ever hear of the connection between the credit card companies putting the squeeze on porn in turn so the government would make it more difficult to file for bankruptcy, in effect allowing credit card companies to lessen their loses?

[pussyluver]

Four months of this before the elections. It will be close and their will be mud all over the place.

Webmasters care about biz, but some will be caught up on tax issues and then there is the whole thing with the war on terrorism. If you worried about buildings blowing up, maybe the Bush hardline will look more important.

[genomega]

Originally posted by CraigA
I honestly can't wait for the real campaigning to begin. I think Kerry's choice of John Edwards for VP is fantastic. He's very charasmatic and has the ability to connect with real people, not just the fat cat elitists that Bush terms "his base."
And when Edwards and Cheney have their debate, it won't even be close. Edwards is a far more accomplished orator than Cheney. You may have to actually see if Mr. Haliburton is actually still breathing.
What really cracks me up is the Republican response after the announcement was made. The term I keep hearing repeated over and over is liberal, like being a liberal is akin to having a disease or something.
Neither person on the Democratic ticket is a true liberal, though each man has some liberal ideas and messages. But even if both of them were true left wing liberals, I'd take that any day over lying, deceitful, election tampering, bordering on criminal right wing destroyers of the economy, personal freedoms and a number of other items too long to list.
Time to take out the trash.

Do you make any money or do the taxpayers support you?

Location Banana Republic - you got that right.

[LauraLee]

Originally posted by benc
How was your adult business affected in the previous 4 years out of curiosity?

In case you are directing your question at me, i will answer... it is not about the past 4 years- it is about the 4 years to come. It is NO secret that Buch has made his agenda geared towards our industry in the coming years (that is if our country is shot out enough to vote him back).
Besides that very important point... i am also concerned about bringing back a coward who stands before the country he "leads" and flat out lies about classified information. Lies and deceit.. just not what i look for in my leader, imagine that.

[80smetal]

Originally posted by LauraLee
In case you are directing your question at me, i will answer... it is not about the past 4 years- it is about the 4 years to come. It is NO secret that Buch has made his agenda geared towards our industry in the coming years (that is if our country is shot out enough to vote him back).
Besides that very important point... i am also concerned about bringing back a coward who stands before the country he "leads" and flat out lies about classified information. Lies and deceit.. just not what i look for in my leader, imagine that.

Democrats dont lie.

[Tom_PMs]

I loved seeing Bush on tv today answering some reporters questions with typical arrogance.

Asked about the campaign schedule, Dubya said, "I dont do the schedules, I'm just a simple candidate"


Ohhhhh it's true it's true!

[Basic_man]

Niether! I'm from Canada

[LauraLee]

Originally posted by 80smetal
Democrats dont lie.

I am not that big of a putz to think I could generalize one entire political group the way you just did.
I was referring to Gdubya, who was busted red handed. I am talking precedence here... not generalizations.
thanks for your time and incoherence..

[CraigA]

Originally posted by genomega
Do you make any money or do the taxpayers support you?

Location Banana Republic - you got that right.

What difference does it make what I earn? Unlike most Republicans who have a narrow point of view and the what's in it for me and my best interest mentality, I like to think about the overall.
And I'm aware of where I live and the joke it was in the 2000 election. Please remember, however, who is in our governor's seat.
By the way, I'm doing just fine financially, but thanks for your concern.

[GoodChris]

People aren't voting for Kerry, they are voting against Bush.

I expect to see the highest ever turnout in voters this election.

Its time to shave the bush...

[80smetal]

Originally posted by LauraLee
I am not that big of a putz to think I could generalize one entire political group the way you just did.
I was referring to Gdubya, who was busted red handed. I am talking precedence here... not generalizations.
thanks for your time and incoherence..

No problem, 2 words Kennedy Family, the biggest lieing cheating scumbags on the earth More lies, deceit and fraud then 1000 GW's combined

[CraigA]

Originally posted by 80smetal
Democrats dont lie.

Please don't be equating Clinton lying about a blow job and the numerous lies the Bush administration has forced down the throat of the American public to the tune of billions of dollars of wasted taxpayers money in a country we have no right being in not to mention the 1000 or so lost American lives.

[LauraLee]

Originally posted by 80smetal
No problem, 2 words Kennedy Family, the biggest lieing cheating scumbags on the earth More lies, deceit and fraud then 1000 GW's combined

Aw shucks, you mean a democrat actually lied somewhere in history?
Once again, let me spell it out... I realize their are evils in every group.
I also realize this election has NOTHING to do with Kennedy. With any luck you might someday realize this too.

[CraigA]

Originally posted by 80smetal
No problem, 2 words Kennedy Family, the biggest lieing cheating scumbags on the earth More lies, deceit and fraud then 1000 GW's combined

Well since JFK was the only one that was President, do you care to introduce any evidence? And, yeah, he probably lied about getting a hummer or two from Marilyn Monroe and God knows what other woman too.
Who cares?!

[Corleone]

68.89% Kerry

i hope this will be the real result

[SleazeQueen]

Originally posted by 80smetal
Democrats dont lie.

Of course they do, everyone does. But it's the attitude that upsets me about the current administration. It's all about how they are better and smarter and more informed than us, but we don't need to know details or facts or anything. We're just supposed to pack up our sons and daughters and ship them off to a part of the world most of us have only heard about on the news to fight for something none of us completely understand.

Are we there for oil? If so, why am I getting ass raped every time I fill up my car at the gas station?

Are we there for the Iraqui people? If so, why are they STILL without power and water in many areas since the first bombings a YEAR ago?

Are we there to get Sadam because he tried to kill Bush Sr? Great! Let's hand him over and get the fuck out of there!

I've been willing to work with this administration to reach goals that need to be met, but this bullshit with "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain! I am the great and powerful Oz.. er.. I mean Bush.." is out of control. What's that Judge Judy quote? Don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining? No shit!

And, my big beef of the moment... There should be an end to all "no bid" contracts IMMEDIATELY. If Halliburton wins a bid fairly, then great. Otherwise, let someone else have a piece of the pie over there.

[FunForOne]

Originally posted by LauraLee
In case some of you are forgetting, we work in the adult industry, and ummm, err... Bush is against what we do.

ok, back to normally scheduled programming.

In case you are forgetting, Both parties are against the adult industry, and ummm, err.......... Kerry wants to take another 30 percent of your income and give it to the people who dont work at all.



Neither party can do anything to the industry except shake out the wannabees. The only thing legislation can do is make it harder for adult products to be obtained by minors on the internet or in the general public. This makes the real porn sites more valueable and most of the guys here will realize increased profits.

Why would people think that kerry is for the adult industry? Kerry's traditional ideas are to take away the profit margins in all industries to make the class system run smoother.

President Bush is for small business, he is better for the serious webmaster than Kerry, sorros, or H. Clinton.

[LauraLee]

Originally posted by FunForOne


President Bush is for small business

That is all you really needed to say for my retard radar to go off. Thanks for making it so obvious.

[genomega]

Originally posted by FunForOne
In case you are forgetting, Both parties are against the adult industry, and ummm, err.......... Kerry wants to take another 30 percent of your income and give it to the people who dont work at all.



Neither party can do anything to the industry except shake out the wannabees. The only thing legislation can do is make it harder for adult products to be obtained by minors on the internet or in the general public. This makes the real porn sites more valueable and most of the guys here will realize increased profits.

Why would people think that kerry is for the adult industry? Kerry's traditional ideas are to take away the profit margins in all industries to make the class system run smoother.

President Bush is for small business, he is better for the serious webmaster than Kerry, sorros, or H. Clinton.

They have no idea how hard we had to fight to do away with the 60-90% tax bracket.

[Tom_PMs]

Kerry wants to take another 30 percent of your income and give it to the people who dont work at all.

Got a link to that plan so I can read it for myself?

TIA

[CraigA]

Originally posted by SleazeQueen
Of course they do, everyone does. But it's the attitude that upsets me about the current administration. It's all about how they are better and smarter and more informed than us, but we don't need to know details or facts or anything. We're just supposed to pack up our sons and daughters and ship them off to a part of the world most of us have only heard about on the news to fight for something none of us completely understand.

Are we there for oil? If so, why am I getting ass raped every time I fill up my car at the gas station?

Are we there for the Iraqui people? If so, why are they STILL without power and water in many areas since the first bombings a YEAR ago?

Are we there to get Sadam because he tried to kill Bush Sr? Great! Let's hand him over and get the fuck out of there!

I've been willing to work with this administration to reach goals that need to be met, but this bullshit with "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain! I am the great and powerful Oz.. er.. I mean Bush.." is out of control. What's that Judge Judy quote? Don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining? No shit!

And, my big beef of the moment... There should be an end to all "no bid" contracts IMMEDIATELY. If Halliburton wins a bid fairly, then great. Otherwise, let someone else have a piece of the pie over there.

Welcome to the Club of Reason.

[Alex From San Diego]

Originally posted by Corleone

More like a couple of fools....

[FunForOne]

Originally posted by LauraLee
That is all you really needed to say for my retard radar to go off. Thanks for making it so obvious.

I'll put my small business eduction, experience and knowledge against anyone.



How do you not understand economics?


Small businesses are owned by the people. Democrats want to increase taxes on people. People who pay more taxes have less money to run their small business.

Democrats want more legislation in business
Republicans want less legislation in business

Democrats think the economy is improved by heavily regulating industry.
Republicans think the economy is improved by competition in the private market.

When profits rise, employment rises.
When hand outs occur, employment lessens




If someone is working and making $25,000 a year and getting health insurance that is exactly what they are working for.

If you provide and alternative social income and social healthcare worth 20,000 a year then that person is not just working for $5,000 a year. That gives them less incentive to produce.

[FunForOne]

Originally posted by SleazeQueen
Of course they do, everyone does. But it's the attitude that upsets me about the current administration. It's all about how they are better and smarter and more informed than us, but we don't need to know details or facts or anything. We're just supposed to pack up our sons and daughters and ship them off to a part of the world most of us have only heard about on the news to fight for something none of us completely understand.

Are we there for oil? If so, why am I getting ass raped every time I fill up my car at the gas station?

Are we there for the Iraqui people? If so, why are they STILL without power and water in many areas since the first bombings a YEAR ago?

Are we there to get Sadam because he tried to kill Bush Sr? Great! Let's hand him over and get the fuck out of there!

I've been willing to work with this administration to reach goals that need to be met, but this bullshit with "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain! I am the great and powerful Oz.. er.. I mean Bush.." is out of control. What's that Judge Judy quote? Don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining? No shit!

And, my big beef of the moment... There should be an end to all "no bid" contracts IMMEDIATELY. If Halliburton wins a bid fairly, then great. Otherwise, let someone else have a piece of the pie over there.

Do a google and find out how many "no-bid" contracts clinton gave to haliburton.

You will be surprised.

[fang]

Kerry/Edwards

It REALLY is time for a change

[SleazeQueen]

Originally posted by FunForOne
Democrats want more legislation in business
Republicans want less legislation in business

Democrats think the economy is improved by heavily regulating industry.
Republicans think the economy is improved by competition in the private market.

That's what I hear "Them" say all the time, but I don't see it. Whenever a Dem is in office my lifestyle and business improve. Republican in office = more regulation and more taxes and more bullshit = decreases in my business and personal lifestyle.

I'd love to vote for a republican who will really reduce taxes and help small business. So far that hasn't happened and I've been doing this small business thing since Reagan.

[SleazeQueen]

Originally posted by FunForOne
Do a google and find out how many "no-bid" contracts clinton gave to haliburton.
You will be surprised.

Really? Got a link? I would be surprised. Not flabbergasted, but surprised.

[FunForOne]

Originally posted by SleazeQueen
That's what I hear "Them" say all the time, but I don't see it. Whenever a Dem is in office my lifestyle and business improve. Republican in office = more regulation and more taxes and more bullshit = decreases in my business and personal lifestyle.

I'd love to vote for a republican who will really reduce taxes and help small business. So far that hasn't happened and I've been doing this small business thing since Reagan.

I cant speak for you specific situation or tax bracket but you dont have to listen to long to the democrat candidates on the national level to say that President Bush cut taxes for everyone. Their arguement is that he should have given the same tax cuts to the rich people that everyone else got.

Listen to Hillary talk, she is one of the only democrats that will come out and say that she would raise taxes.

Most leave it for a read between the lines type of thing. The social programs proposed by kerry would require an enormous tax burden on all U.S. citizens, not just the rich.

The irony is that the democrats say Bush is to liberal with his social spending in the same sentence they say he shouldn't have cut taxes.



Socialized medicine is the worst idea ever. I agree that costs are getting out of hand but I can tell you how that is going to change. Ask me later.

Profits in the private healthcare industry are the reason for the advanced rate of innovation that leads to good quality healthcare and disease cure, etc....

Companies are litterally racing to compete in markets for healthcare profits which means that they spend more money and time on research.

[zanycash Pete]

Interesting responses so far!

[S P A N N O W]

Nader

[zanycash Pete]

Originally posted by spannow
Nader

Let him get his own parties endorsment first!

[baddog]

Originally posted by input
dont vote

then don't bitch

[baddog]

Originally posted by LauraLee
In case some of you are forgetting, we work in the adult industry, and ummm, err... Bush is against what we do.

ok, back to normally scheduled programming.

what has he done to you or your business?

[baddog]

Originally posted by CraigA
I honestly can't wait for the real campaigning to begin. I think Kerry's choice of John Edwards for VP is fantastic

fantastic? how about mandatory? a Yankee needs a southern running mate to stand a chance. that is one reason Hillary was not a viable choice

[baddog]

Originally posted by CraigA
And where do you think the pressure on the credit card companies came from? Did you ever hear of the connection between the credit card companies putting the squeeze on porn in turn so the government would make it more difficult to file for bankruptcy, in effect allowing credit card companies to lessen their loses?

let me guess. . . . you own 3 tin foil hats?

[Tom_PMs]

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Kerry wants to take another 30 percent of your income and give it to the people who dont work at all.
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Got a link to that plan so I can read it for myself?

TIA

[baddog]

Originally posted by SleazeQueen
Are we there for the Iraqui people? If so, why are they STILL without power and water in many areas since the first bombings a YEAR ago?

Hurricanes in FL have had the exact same result

[80smetal]

Originally posted by Tom_PM
quote:
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Kerry wants to take another 30 percent of your income and give it to the people who dont work at all.
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Got a link to that plan so I can read it for myself?

TIA

you really dont need a link to know the dems love handing out money to all the lazy fuckers who love handouts.