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Old 09-15-2003, 10:20 AM   #1
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:mad US wounded being charged for meals

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ARLINGTON, Va. ? Talk about adding insult to injury, said one U.S. Congressman.

Troops wounded in combat in the nation?s war on terrorism are being handed more than just discharge papers when they leave military hospitals ? some also are getting a bill.

At a daily rate of $8.10, hospitalized troops, including those wounded in Iraq and Afghanistan, are being charged for their meals.

?Some things don?t meet the common-sense test, and this is one of them,? said a soldier injured in Iraq in June, and who has received two meal bills, one for $24.30 from the Landstuhl Regional Medical Center in Germany, and a second for more than $300 from the Brooke Army Medical Center in San Antonio.
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I thought it was bullshit ... but this is a real newspaper distributed to the troops ....

The hawks really have putrified balls to do this to troops that have served their country.

Only in the good old US of A ...
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That is such bullshit. The Government will pay $1000.00 for a toilet seat (for those of you that remember that scandal) but they can't feed our own wounded troups. We feed the Iraqi's but we don't feed our boys.
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ive tasted that food, and at 8 bucks a pop, they are gettin over charged
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Most people don`t believe it...

But the reason this has happened is because Clinton raped the military funds, to cover other funds and make all the ignorant people think that Clinton helped the economy... his economy is hurting us now, and Bush is being blamed.

But yeah, everyone thank your daddy, Clinton, for the BS the soldiers go thru.
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Old 09-15-2003, 11:54 AM   #8
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this is very obvious

none of you draft dodgers were ever in the military.


if you had you would know the answer here.


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Most people don`t believe it...

But the reason this has happened is because Clinton raped the military funds, to cover other funds and make all the ignorant people think that Clinton helped the economy... his economy is hurting us now, and Bush is being blamed.

But yeah, everyone thank your daddy, Clinton, for the BS the soldiers go thru.
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Most people don`t believe it...

But the reason this has happened is because Clinton raped the military funds, to cover other funds and make all the ignorant people think that Clinton helped the economy... his economy is hurting us now, and Bush is being blamed.

But yeah, everyone thank your daddy, Clinton, for the BS the soldiers go thru.
Amazing how stubborn you are ( or blind). It's always Clinton.

Let me tell you something kiddo, if I was Bush ( and thank Satan I am not), I would have reduced the tax break to the rich and paid meals for soldiers that have risked ( and some lost) their lives on my orders.

Carlito, your brain is dead.
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You have to have experience in the US Military understands this,

If you are married or have a child, or live off base then you get paid what they called Basic Allowance For Subsistence (BAS)
It basically extra pay to buy your own food.

Everyone else will have to eat at the mess hall
(like a school cafeteria)

So if your in a situation where you get BAS then you'd be charged for any meals you eat. The military has been doing this for years.
Lot of situations like this that is kinda of fucked up because of the policy
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Most people don`t believe it...

But the reason this has happened is because Clinton raped the military funds, to cover other funds and make all the ignorant people think that Clinton helped the economy... his economy is hurting us now, and Bush is being blamed.

But yeah, everyone thank your daddy, Clinton, for the BS the soldiers go thru.

Bush is being blamed for, accused of & responsible for a lot more than the economy that Clinton left behind.

Anyway, since you feel that way, you plan to vote no recall right?

I mean figuring Pete Wilson jacked up California's budget long before it was handed over to Gray Davis.
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shit i just decided to read the whole article and it said the same thing i just said
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Lot of situations like this that is kinda of fucked up because of the policy
Well as long as Bush & Co are rewriting the rulebooks on the coat tails of Terrorisim to better serve their master plan, why not write something in and fix that.
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Most people don`t believe it...

But the reason this has happened is because Clinton raped the military funds, to cover other funds and make all the ignorant people think that Clinton helped the economy... his economy is hurting us now, and Bush is being blamed.

But yeah, everyone thank your daddy, Clinton, for the BS the soldiers go thru.
Hit it right on the dot!!
Clinton, Killed our military, people don't seem to realize this but when u are on the other side...u know he didn't care a damn about soldiers!!
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Well as long as Bush & Co are rewriting the rulebooks on the coat tails of Terrorisim to better serve their master plan, why not write something in and fix that.
The military has been charing hospital meals for over 20 years. There is also alot of other stupid military policies. You can't fix everything overnight.

when you break it down the meals are really paid for. because they was already paid for it in advance. You can't get paid for it and then eat for FREE.
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Gawd I luv it when these idiots take off on a tangent about something they know nothing about.

Sheep can be led anywhere,

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They Army will always try to find a way to screw soldiers up... when it comes to claim maoneys from the soldiers they put their boots on your ass, when it comes to the soldier to claim whats his they delay and try to avoid paying...
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Hit it right on the dot!!
Clinton, Killed our military, people don't seem to realize this but when u are on the other side...u know he didn't care a damn about soldiers!!

Bush does?

Bush hasn't added & proposed to add leaps and bounds more to our deficit?

Maybe you're just hating on clinton because the pussy he got caught getting, was more than you got during his 8 year presidency.

Clinton gets blamed for a bad economy because of the Dotcom bomb -- he couldn't control the outcome of that.

All of the "Experts" at the time were divided between "the skys the limit" and "theres a bubble, it'll burst" - all the while underwriters, venture capitalists, brokerage firms & tons of crooked GimmieYourMoney.com IPO startups would pump & dump their way into the minds and wallets of the world.
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I was in the Army during clinton's presidency
and can tell you for sure that the military was not to happy with him.

If you look back there were so many cuts in the military. Lots of bases were closed down. The military was nearly cut in half.
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how many of you jerk-offs
er I mean "people" were ever in the military?

notice I didn't say Honorably Discharged?


just ever were in the military?
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If you have a problem with this, I suggest that you talk to your state reps.

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Call that number and specify your state, and you'll be forwarded to the office of your state reps. Bitch to them. Bitch loud and bitch often.
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How bout as a small thank you from the people or at least the president. Take a small percentage I dunno maybe less than 1% of the 87 billion dollars to be used in Iraq. Divide it between the troops and call it a thank you bonus, your shit is paid for.

Then while bush is at it, have him finish cutting the checks for the 9/11 people he promised funds to.
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You have to have experience in the US Military understands this,

If you are married or have a child, or live off base then you get paid what they called Basic Allowance For Subsistence (BAS)
It basically extra pay to buy your own food.

Everyone else will have to eat at the mess hall
(like a school cafeteria)

So if your in a situation where you get BAS then you'd be charged for any meals you eat. The military has been doing this for years.
Lot of situations like this that is kinda of fucked up because of the policy
You are correct.
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The military has been charing hospital meals for over 20 years. There is also alot of other stupid military policies. You can't fix everything overnight.

when you break it down the meals are really paid for. because they was already paid for it in advance. You can't get paid for it and then eat for FREE.
You are correct...but when one has been wounded or injured...it would be a nice gesture/perk...to not be charged...but is a budget thing.
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I was in the Army during clinton's presidency
and can tell you for sure that the military was not to happy with him.

If you look back there were so many cuts in the military. Lots of bases were closed down. The military was nearly cut in half.
You are correct on both statements...but the cuts actually began with President Bush Sr. It was my feeling at the time that the cuts in personell were to great...and this is now proving to be true.
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You have to have experience in the US Military understands this,

If you are married or have a child, or live off base then you get paid what they called Basic Allowance For Subsistence (BAS)
It basically extra pay to buy your own food.

Everyone else will have to eat at the mess hall
(like a school cafeteria)

So if your in a situation where you get BAS then you'd be charged for any meals you eat. The military has been doing this for years.
Lot of situations like this that is kinda of fucked up because of the policy
I understand exactly how it works, but I still think it's bullshit. lol (I grew up around and married to the Military)
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Hit it right on the dot!!
Clinton, Killed our military,
If you look at it that way, Bush is killing US soldiers everyday now.
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I was in the Army during clinton's presidency
and can tell you for sure that the military was not to happy with him.

If you look back there were so many cuts in the military. Lots of bases were closed down. The military was nearly cut in half.
Could it be because the " cold war " threat was gone????
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Could it be because the " cold war " threat was gone????
Yes...but it was not forward thinking...to initiate the size of the cuts. I for one felt that when the "cold war" was over the world had just became a more dangerous world...because there would be more regional conflicts...and there has been...but actually not on the scale that I expected.

I for one will not be surpised if the draft is reinstituted within the next couple of years...and I for one do not feel that the draft should have ever been discarded...for a variety of reasons.
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King, Playa,

your both correct.

When I got baq and off base payments I couldn't eat in the mess hall anymore.

If I did, I had to pay for it.

these regs have been in place for years.
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When I got baq and off base payments I couldn't eat in the mess hall anymore.
moving off base and getting wounded in combat are two different things.

my point in all this is that the US government gives blank checks to halliburton and other contractors, yet nickels and dimes the soldiers who are doing the actual fighting.
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Eatapeach.

I totally agree with you on Haliburton, Brown and Root, etc.

I think the american tax payers have been swindled and blind to what has been happening.

I was just pointing out how the regs are. They get paid on the check for food / housing, so if they eat on base, hospital, etc they have to pay.

I don't agree with it when it comes to injured soldiers though.
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A person's weight in food must be eaten just to heal, say, a thigh wound. So serving his/her own country does entitle one to more food than the desk jockey morally.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Carlito
Most people don`t believe it...

But the reason this has happened is because Clinton raped the military funds, to cover other funds and make all the ignorant people think that Clinton helped the economy... his economy is hurting us now, and Bush is being blamed.

But yeah, everyone thank your daddy, Clinton, for the BS the soldiers go thru.
[/QUOTE

Its very scary that people honestly believe this, that individuals should be named as responsible parties for USA government foreign policy.

Money is what drives American policy. This aint about freeing some third world from a dictator, its about access and control of money. If US soldiers getting charged is unacceptable, blame should be placed on BOTH parties. The American involvement in Iraq is so transparent its disgusting. Multinational corporations making serious money with the USA military as their goons and the USA taxpayers as their bankroll. Along the way if there is some fundamental unfairness I think its safe to say that Republicans and Democrats both should belly up to the table and accept responsibility.
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For accounting reasons, they give you an extra $100 which is then deducted to pay for the "extra" meal.
Obviously the dude who wrote the article did not think he should ask before posting shit.

No amount of money is sufficient to be killed while serving in the Army.
As for Clinton raping the Army and Bush plundering US funds, it's all bullshit.
The Army is like a giant mammoth which needs trimming, ie: Spending millions of dollars on training pigeons to fly mini cameras when you now have ultra light unmanned planes.
Bush can't just walk away from Iraq now. Wether you agree with him or not, the USA can't just walk away at this point.
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Oh my fucking god, what fucking bullshit that is! We send them over there, they die, get wounded, or scared for life! And we charge them for food! What fucking BS! This government is getting worse and worse!

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Oh my fucking god, what fucking bullshit that is! We send them over there, they die, get wounded, or scared for life! And we charge them for food! What fucking BS! This government is getting worse and worse!

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Did you read the thread? Only the ones that are receiving BAS as they have already received monies for their meals...though as I stated it would be a nice gesture/perk if they were not charged while they are in a hospital.
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If your would have read the article.

Military hospitals have been charging officers for their food since 1958. Enlisted members have had to pay the tab since 1981.
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