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Old 05-27-2003, 05:22 PM   #1
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I just Bought a Cheap Fast CAr? Not Possible? REad THis

One look reveals the probable character of the beast, so let's just cut right to the quick. The Neon SRT-4 rips to 60 mph in 5.6 seconds, to 100 in 13.8, covers a quarter-mile in 14.2 seconds at 102 mph, and keeps on huffin' all the way to 153 mph


http://www.caranddriver.com/article....rticle_id=1868


Yup, all you big dawgs in here with your monster sports cars, this little hot rod will rip up most of them. I laugh at mustangs and pee on boxters. I think one poor guy in his new 350Z almost blew up his motor trying to keep up with me in my 20 thousand dollars. American Tuner. What agreat buy this little racer is...
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Old 05-27-2003, 05:32 PM   #2
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No offense, I'm glad you like your car, but it's a friggin' Neon..?!?

I could have $10k in engine work done to a $500 Pinto and smoke you, but it's still a Pinto.

What you and the ricers haven't figured out is that there's more to a car than JUST the engine. The trick is to get something that really looks good AND can blow the doors off everyone else.
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Old 05-27-2003, 05:32 PM   #3
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215 hp is fast?
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Old 05-27-2003, 05:36 PM   #4
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Yeah, OOOOOKKKAAAAYYYYY!!!
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Old 05-27-2003, 05:36 PM   #5
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'SPlain something:

Ya dawgs want speed, where ya use it all if ya don't street race?
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btw, that was a reply to Eric.
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Old 05-27-2003, 05:37 PM   #7
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You are so wrong bro. This car has only a little sheet metal in common with the neon. From the tires to the turbo, this is a different animal. And yea, I think that 5.8 seconds to 60 is pretty fast. Sure it is not in the 4.X range like the cobra and Viper but it is only 19 thousand dollars. That is so cheap for this level of performance.
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One look reveals the probable character of the beast, so let's just cut right to the quick. The Neon SRT-4 rips to 60 mph in 5.6 seconds, to 100 in 13.8, covers a quarter-mile in 14.2 seconds at 102 mph, and keeps on huffin' all the way to 153 mph


http://www.caranddriver.com/article....rticle_id=1868




Yup, all you big dawgs in here with your monster sports cars, this little hot rod will rip up most of them. I laugh at mustangs and pee on boxters. I think one poor guy in his new 350Z almost blew up his motor trying to keep up with me in my 20 thousand dollars. American Tuner. What agreat buy this little racer is...
You are my hero.
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Old 05-27-2003, 05:41 PM   #9
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Ya dawgs want speed, where ya use it all if ya don't street race?
The light is Red.
Right next to you; a big asshole revving his engines.
He thinks he's about to start in the Daytona 500.
You rev up your engine, give him a "Go Fuck Yourself" look.
The light turns green.
You start to race him, but when you hit 35 you suddenly slow down.
He's long gone.
As you finally reach 45, you see a nice looking police cruiser turning on its lights.
The cruiser has just busted the big asshole who wanted to smoke you so bad.
He's about to get a $200 ticket.
As you pass the busted asshole, you slow down, give him the finger and a nice smile that says; "Who's the Stupid Mother Fucker Now???"
You can now have a good day.
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Old 05-27-2003, 05:42 PM   #10
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Trouble is my Grandma drives a Neon. I would just never feel comfortable driving one that is trying to be some sort of Fast and Furious car.

I would feel like a knob driving it.

There's a local kid that has a Neon and he put a big wing on the back, that racing stripe that you see on the Vipers, and a really loud stainless steel performance exhaust.

Everyone laughs at him.
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Old 05-27-2003, 05:48 PM   #11
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You are so wrong bro. This car has only a little sheet metal in common with the neon. From the tires to the turbo, this is a different animal. And yea, I think that 5.8 seconds to 60 is pretty fast. Sure it is not in the 4.X range like the cobra and Viper but it is only 19 thousand dollars. That is so cheap for this level of performance.
Push that level of performance over and over, like you can a viper or porsche, and see how long it takes the cheap parts to start breaking up.
Think about it for a moment, for 19k, the pistons, valves, springs, heads, cam, crank, lifters, etc... are not going to be quality parts, but hey, race away man. luck to ya.
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Old 05-27-2003, 06:01 PM   #12
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Not true voodooman. The car is cheap because the group of young Dodge enginers that got this SRT project cut costs all over the car. For example, there is no cruise control, there are no electric motors for the rear windows, there is no key hole in the passenger door. There are many examples of this cost cutting all over the car. The money they saved they put into performance parts. And besides, I have a 7 year 70 thousand mile warrenty...

Really, I thought it was funny too. A neon, what the fuck, I am not driving a neon. For gods sake, I had a turbo Porsche just 2 years ago and love that too. But this little dodge is just so much fun, so American (and I feel good about that) and is so cheap. I could not resist myself.
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Old 05-27-2003, 07:21 PM   #13
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The light is Red.
Right next to you; a big asshole revving his engines.
He thinks he's about to start in the Daytona 500.
You rev up your engine, give him a "Go Fuck Yourself" look.
The light turns green.
You start to race him, but when you hit 35 you suddenly slow down.
He's long gone.
As you finally reach 45, you see a nice looking police cruiser turning on its lights.
The cruiser has just busted the big asshole who wanted to smoke you so bad.
He's about to get a $200 ticket.
As you pass the busted asshole, you slow down, give him the finger and a nice smile that says; "Who's the Stupid Mother Fucker Now???"
You can now have a good day.
This reminds me of when I was just out of high school. I was in my t-bird and I pulled up to a stop light where there was a Cadillac on the left of me filled with about 4 kids. As I sat there waiting for the light to turn, the kids in the Cadillac were staring over at me and my girlfriend (now wife). When the light turned we both floored it, of course the t-bird was no match for the Cadillac, they sped up fast and just about 2 blocks up they hit a red light. As I saw that I started to slow down just enough so that when the light turned green I could hit it with momentum, which I did. This left the Cadillac behind me for about a block and as they approached we both saw ½ block up the light was red. So this time we both slowed down trying to time the green light. Without having to stop we hit the green light and both floored it. Unfortunately as we were going through the intersection (which was not a normal intersection it was where the left lane merged onto a 2 way road) the car on the left of us ran the yellow light and just side swiped the Cadillac. It forced them into my lane and me up on the curb to avoid being hit by them. As I drove away I thought that is not going to be a fun one to explain to their mom since it was obviously not theirs.
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Old 05-27-2003, 07:29 PM   #14
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Driving fast is very dangerous. My girlfriend will not let me do it. So sometimes I sneak out and take the car for a spin myself. At least your girl lets you speed. Mine won't have it.
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Old 05-27-2003, 07:39 PM   #15
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Voodooman, you are so right.....$19k for a car and you get what you pay for....I'm sure it is a good car for zipping around town to do errands and stuff but to race that thing around...no thanks.

That'll be the day you see me driving in that piece of shit....lol

I would like to see that heap stand up to a collision. I was rearended by a honda going 45mph as I was stopped. Four more cars rearended the honda which of course kept piling into me. I was in my Benz (SL 500) I was the only one who walked away. Everyone else behind me was transprted away in an ambulance. Like I said, you get what you pay for and for $19k, I wouldn't want to be caught in that heap of scrap metal......

But hey...enjoy the ride and good luck with it.
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Old 05-27-2003, 07:45 PM   #17
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WOW PHAT CAR.

At the end of the day, it is still a Dodge Fucking Neon. For 19 G's you could have bought a 99 5-series and never smelled it when you farted in your car again. (I love carbon air filters.)
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Old 05-27-2003, 07:49 PM   #18
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Don't pay these people any mind. 5.6 for 19K is respectable and I don't think it's going to be falling apart the way some people are claiming. I remember when I first heard about this car; I thought the numbers were a misprint.

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Don't pay these people any mind. 5.6 for 19K is respectable and I don't think it's going to be falling apart the way some people are claiming. I remember when I first heard about this car; I thought the numbers were a misprint.

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Tuning is a hobby of mine. My mom owned an Intrepid R/T for a while, Dodge's first attempt to put racing into their cars, it was a great sleeper, and comfy as hell, def not bad for $30k, and a great warrantee to boot, but its like this: if you're car is always in being fixed (fast car -> fast braking -> fucks up dodge's notoriously shitty rotors and brake systems REAL quick) you are going to spend more in the end, even if it is all warantee work. There's no shame in owning a domestic car, but lets not pretend it is anything other than a Dodge Neon.
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If the car is going to break or not is really a matter of conjecture at this point. I suppose you can say that a 2.4 litre engine with 14 pounds of boost from the turbo will not last long. And you do have a very good point about what good is a warrenty if the car is in the shop all the time being fixed for free. At that time you have no car. But I am really happy to buy an American car this time. Maybe it is the war, American Pride I dont know. But this time Dodge has really done it. Fast as shit and cheap with a great warrenty and solid feel and great seats. I will be that this little car will be a classic in a few years. The wet dream of every 18 year old kid in America.
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Old 05-27-2003, 10:02 PM   #21
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Yup, all you big dawgs in here with your monster sports cars, this little hot rod will rip up most of them. I laugh at mustangs and pee on boxters. I think one poor guy in his new 350Z almost blew up his motor trying to keep up with me in my 20 thousand dollars. American Tuner. What agreat buy this little racer is...


I would say you were either racing somebody that either wasn't racing, or doesn't know how to race. The guy in the Z was probably wondering why you were lunging back and forth in the drivers seat going around him in a 45 mph zone.

Not knocking your Neon, it's a great car for the money. But I'll run with you any time, the Z boasts 0-60 in 5.4 for 26K and delivers.



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i have a 350z and love it. i agree, a neon is a neon no matter how much crap you bolt to it
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Old 05-27-2003, 10:20 PM   #24
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that hp dont mean shit if it dont hook
you shoulda bought a WRX
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it is a best car for a buck, but 350z will be a bit faster than SRt4.
so i bet you were trying to catch up, not him.
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14.2 on the 1/4 mile =
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Nice!! I love that color too! I also like the Daytona blue with the light grey leather interior.

Get ready for the convertible:
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Holy shit this thing rips.. wow
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Pretty quick little car
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14.2 on the 1/4 mile =
for a stock car it is very good


14sec cars:
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Neons make good rally cars. They're fun to beat up :P
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I drive a 357WHP boosted Acura RSX... Cost me about 30k alltogether now...

Got a T3/T4 Ballbearing turbo (bored and clipped), Catback Exhaust, 2.5 inch downpipe, Mugen 4-2-1 header, Port and Polish, Toxico shocks, Mugen lip, Nology Spark plugs, hyper-ground wires, Mugen front-sway bar, Mugen rear tie-bar, ACT stage three clutch, ultralight racing flywheel, Toda racing camshafts, toda valve springs, civic SI rods, Greddy boost controller, HKS front-mount intercooler, greddy silicon hose kit, AEM big brake kit, stainless steal brake lines, 19 inch Yokohoma dubs, Pirelli rubber, short shifter, momo steering wheel, Sparco racing buckets, 4 point harnesses, carbon fiber dash kit, and last but not least, a mugen pedal set...

Good for 0-60 in about 5 seconds flat (thats only an estimate, I've never taken the time to do do any real testing), haven't dragged it yet, so I dont know its quarter mile time, 160 MPH topspeed... No, dont ask where i tested its speed... cause your not going to get a strait answer.

To be honest, I only read the first few posts, but I figure its a good idea to boast about my car

and.. get this: No decals, bodykits, no 500 lb sound system, no rice. Its all about performace, baby.
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0-60 in 3.4 seconds. And it's only 24 thousand pounds. Beat that.
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If I had 19k for a car, I would have gotten a supra
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Amen, drive a supra and you'll be kickin' ass and taking names... As long as its the twin-turbo version
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Oh yeah well my lawnmower goes 0-60 in 4 seconds.
hehe, Id much rather drive a 350z than a neon bro. You shouldnt have even compaired the 2 cars, it will upset the z owners greatly ;d
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Amen, drive a supra and you'll be kickin' ass and taking names... As long as its the twin-turbo version
of course , '98 TT is the way to go
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well, cheap cars are....... cheap
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The Nean is a little pocket rocket. It's the power to weight ratio. The engine is too big and the car is too small.

But at the end of the day it's still a neon.

I've been driving Mustangs for nearly ten years now. I've got a beefy V8, lots of room, all the options, a trunk, and something close to a back seat.

And I paid less than the $19k Neon, and I don't feel like an idiot when I drive down the street.
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I love it when the guys with the 350's and the boxters get all defensive when they hear that some Joe who bought a 19 thousand dollars bone stock Dodge SRT 4 can blow their doors off.

I don't know where that one guy with the 350 got his info but those numbers are not correct. 0-60 and 1/4 mile the Neon takes the Z, boxter and camaro. And this little Dodge is bone stock. When Mopar comes out with parts ina few months it will be even faster.

Now what can I do to make my girlfriend enjoy driving fast? She says if I continue to do it she will not suck my dick any more as a punishment. i have a big problem becuase to be honest I like driving fast more than I do getting head. But I wont tell her that.
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I don't know where that one guy with the 350 got his info but those numbers are not correct. 0-60 and 1/4 mile the Neon takes the Z, boxter and camaro. And this little Dodge is bone stock. When Mopar comes out with parts ina few months it will be even faster.

I'm not gonna read the whole thread to see what the guy said about the 350, But I have sportcompactcar, and motortrend in front of me and they both say the SRT 4 takes it!

that 350z spyder still looks fuckin sweet though
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But this little dodge is just so much fun, so American (and I feel good about that) and is so cheap. I could not resist myself.
Have you actually looked at the parts content sticker? Probably 80% is "Made in Mexico".

That's where most Dodge vehicles are built now.

More Toyotas are built in the good ol' USA than there are Dodges.
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true the 350 is one of the best looking cars. Especially in my rear view mirror :-)

Yes, I noticed that Mexico shit too. I think the entire engine is made there. Oh well, maybe the extra work will keep'em from coming here..
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Old 05-28-2003, 07:59 AM   #45
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I drive a 357WHP boosted Acura RSX... Cost me about 30k alltogether now...

Got a T3/T4 Ballbearing turbo (bored and clipped), Catback Exhaust, 2.5 inch downpipe, Mugen 4-2-1 header, Port and Polish, Toxico shocks, Mugen lip, Nology Spark plugs, hyper-ground wires, Mugen front-sway bar, Mugen rear tie-bar, ACT stage three clutch, ultralight racing flywheel, Toda racing camshafts, toda valve springs, civic SI rods, Greddy boost controller, HKS front-mount intercooler, greddy silicon hose kit, AEM big brake kit, stainless steal brake lines, 19 inch Yokohoma dubs, Pirelli rubber, short shifter, momo steering wheel, Sparco racing buckets, 4 point harnesses, carbon fiber dash kit, and last but not least, a mugen pedal set...

Good for 0-60 in about 5 seconds flat (thats only an estimate, I've never taken the time to do do any real testing), haven't dragged it yet, so I dont know its quarter mile time, 160 MPH topspeed... No, dont ask where i tested its speed... cause your not going to get a strait answer.

To be honest, I only read the first few posts, but I figure its a good idea to boast about my car

and.. get this: No decals, bodykits, no 500 lb sound system, no rice. Its all about performace, baby.
Props to your ride!
You sound like the only real Import Tunner in here!

I have a 2k EBP Honda Si that's been my project car since I bought it and I have prety much the same MODs. Just waiting on a new T3/T4 to replcae my 18g pice of crap Greddy turbo I had on it.

Just like real tunners, Sans Rice. No System, but almost as much REAL Carbon Fiber as a Mclarren F1!!
The power to weight ratio is deff. a key point.

The torque in the car is almost equal to the 315hp it put out last run on the dyno, at about 15lbs of boost, which really makes a majopr difference on the road, track, and highway.

I took a few webmasters for a spin at the last August Internext show, and they were quite impressed that this plain looking Honda Civic Si that rolled out of the Diplomat Valet, was womping on just about everything we met on the SoFla roads!
So much so, they thought about building one as a project.

But besides all the Mods and Balls it may posess it's still "JUST" a Civic.

I couldn't get Aria Giovanni in it if I payed her as much as Andrew Blake or BoneProne Fam!!
Now if I pull up in my 650hp Boosted M5 in August, I just MIGHT have a chance.

As everyone with car sense mentioned, put any of these sport compact cars up against a highly tunned Supra, or Porshe, and it's all over!


But it sure is FUN!

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Old 05-28-2003, 08:25 AM   #46
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Since I stopped driving I've lost weight, I'm in better shape, I get more sun, I meet more people... I walk or run or bike at least 1-2 hours/day...

Down the main strip of my town I can beat just about any car on my bike because I don't have to stop for a red light or for cops

I admit driving was fun, but it gets old... I have way more fun on my bike. I realized that driving was mostly for my big ego -- I have no need for a car... I can walk to dozens of restuarants and I hate grocery shopping. When you drive you waste time and energy and you're getting fat sitting in it... and you're more likely to be audited by the IRS with a nice asset on your record... also now I can move to NY or out of the country and not have to worry about selling my car... Granted not every city is friendly to people without automobiles, but now I appreciate living in a community and not in gridlock.

Probably none of you care -- but I figured I'd offer my advice... I've had a car since highschool... but last year it started bothering me that I owned a car... all the hassle of the paperwork and the bills and the upkeep and the cops, but mostly it was about my freedom... Realize that driving is mostly a way for the government to keep you under control... if you don't do this or that then you lose your car or your driving privledges... fuck the government! I'm not a dog on a leash. Take your roads and run them up your ass -- I don't need them. So what if you can do 0-60 in 2 seconds or 500 seconds... it's all relative. I have this job so that I'm not in a hurry to get anywhere... I can't emphasize how good I feel to not have a car... I only pay two bills every month -- my rent and my phone bill! I haven't bought a stamp in months and months...

Anyway that's my big post for today... I'm going to walk over to the university and get some lunch
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Old 05-28-2003, 08:38 AM   #47
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thefly, so in other words you can't afford it ?
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Old 05-28-2003, 08:47 AM   #48
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One look reveals the probable character of the beast, so let's just cut right to the quick. The Neon SRT-4 rips to 60 mph in 5.6 seconds, to 100 in 13.8, covers a quarter-mile in 14.2 seconds at 102 mph, and keeps on huffin' all the way to 153 mph


http://www.caranddriver.com/article....rticle_id=1868


Yup, all you big dawgs in here with your monster sports cars, this little hot rod will rip up most of them. I laugh at mustangs and pee on boxters. I think one poor guy in his new 350Z almost blew up his motor trying to keep up with me in my 20 thousand dollars. American Tuner. What agreat buy this little racer is...

Neons handle worth shit. I'll be blowing by you in the BMW while you're rolling your neon!
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Old 05-28-2003, 08:52 AM   #49
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Neons handle worth shit.
Yes, but they're cheap

I'm beginning to see a trend...

Do you have all the docs for that car Sobe?
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Old 05-28-2003, 09:03 AM   #50
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Yes, but they're cheap

I'm beginning to see a trend...

Do you have all the docs for that car Sobe?

Cheap isnt best. I rather be in a BMW or some other german car going 200MPH where i know i will be able to keep control of the car rather than a neon which i'd probably lose it should i hit a bump in the road!
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