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Old 05-28-2003, 09:11 AM   #51
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Thats one quick little egg beater. I would hate to be next to it im my Audi.

They sure have come a long way. Go back as little as 5 years ago, to get a car that does 0-60 in under 6 sec. would have cost you 50K.
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Old 05-28-2003, 09:15 AM   #52
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Cheap isnt best. I rather be in a BMW or some other german car going 200MPH where i know i will be able to keep control of the car rather than a neon which i'd probably lose it should i hit a bump in the road!
Did you think I was saying cheap was best ?
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Old 05-28-2003, 09:28 AM   #53
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I bought the Z becuase i wanted it, not because i was bargin shopping. I had to pay 3k over just to get the car shipped in. the z and the neon are in different classes.

kids dream of driving the neon
adult dream of driving the z
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Old 05-28-2003, 09:37 AM   #54
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One look reveals the probable character of the beast, so let's just cut right to the quick. The Neon SRT-4 rips to 60 mph in 5.6 seconds, to 100 in 13.8, covers a quarter-mile in 14.2 seconds at 102 mph, and keeps on huffin' all the way to 153 mph


http://www.caranddriver.com/article....rticle_id=1868


Yup, all you big dawgs in here with your monster sports cars, this little hot rod will rip up most of them. I laugh at mustangs and pee on boxters. I think one poor guy in his new 350Z almost blew up his motor trying to keep up with me in my 20 thousand dollars. American Tuner. What agreat buy this little racer is...
0-60 in 5.6 seconds is SLOW compared to most sports cars built.
14.2 1/4 mile is SLOW compared to most sports cars built.
You know nothing about cars. It's a Neon. Big whoop. A 350Z would eat you alive, don't lie spam bag.
Business can't be that good if all you can afford is a fucking Neon! Yay! A girl's car..... Wheee!!!!
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I am not disagreeing with any of you that a BMW or Porcshe or 350 Z are better cars. They weigh about 1500 pounds more too. And for the record I could afford a much more expensive car but that is not the point. The point is that America, the most innovative country in the world has for the first time created a machine that is the fastest production car every made for under 20 thousand dollars. I can appreciate this so I bought one. It was an easy sale. And for those of you that areskeptical and say the car handles like shit etc I suggest you drive a neon srt4 first and then come here and give your comments. The car has the same size tires as the Z and weighs about 1300 pounds less. Trust me it is a very well balanced and good handling car. Anyone want to race?

Now how about buying some 210 HardCore Video picture sets for just $1200.00 from SoBeGirl? I need the money so that I can get a bigger turbo from Mopar :-)
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Old 05-28-2003, 10:33 AM   #56
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Anyone want to race?
Title for Title???



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Title for Title???



I'll race for titles, my ride does 9 sec 1/4 miles.
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BV You scawin my little Neon
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I'll race for titles, my ride does 9 sec 1/4 miles.
If I bring something that runs under 9 seconds it wont have a title.

...... and it will be burning alchohol
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BV RC racers do not count. It must be big enough to sit in.
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I am not disagreeing with any of you that a BMW or Porcshe or 350 Z are better cars. They weigh about 1500 pounds more too. And for the record I could afford a much more expensive car but that is not the point. The point is that America, the most innovative country in the world has for the first time created a machine that is the fastest production car every made for under 20 thousand dollars. I can appreciate this so I bought one. It was an easy sale. And for those of you that areskeptical and say the car handles like shit etc I suggest you drive a neon srt4 first and then come here and give your comments. The car has the same size tires as the Z and weighs about 1300 pounds less. Trust me it is a very well balanced and good handling car. Anyone want to race?

Now how about buying some 210 HardCore Video picture sets for just $1200.00 from SoBeGirl? I need the money so that I can get a bigger turbo from Mopar :-)
Fair enough answer, Sobe. Enjoy your car. You are getting harder and harder to bait.
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Your neon is making my ZO6 horny.....
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If I bring something that runs under 9 seconds it wont have a title.

...... and it will be burning alchohol
No, no I'll race the Vette. I don't see a Callaway twin turbo under there.

We'll race it'll be fun. You can buy it back off me...cheap. You won't even have to change the title over.
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Old 05-28-2003, 10:52 AM   #64
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I'm an adult and I never dreamed of driving a shit car like a z....

That neon looks cool Sobe... have fun zipping around. If I didn't have a family I would trade in the Volvo for one...
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Old 05-28-2003, 12:53 PM   #65
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Driving fast is very dangerous. My girlfriend will not let me do it. So sometimes I sneak out and take the car for a spin myself. At least your girl lets you speed. Mine won't have it.
This may not be the most popular thing to say and is not intended to piss off the ladies

"Why would you give a fuck what she thinks"

I mean you have to up to a point but I have so many friends that let thier lives get dictated by the Girl Friend.

C'mon is that what you want to be told for the rest of your life what you will or wont do?????

I firmly believe a good woman likes a man who calls his own shots
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I actuaslly think this tuner car thing is pretty cool. It is not my flavor of performance but it reminds me of when me and all of my friends were out finding anything that had a V* in it and just building the shit out of it.

Right now the Focus SVT, Neon SRT, Subaru, Mitsu Evo are the Mustangs, Camaros Chargers, and chevelles of todays youth.

Although I am sad to see the rumbling of the V8 moving on to the high price bracket the spirit of the muscle car is still alive and well.

This is the exact philosophy detroit had when the muscle car revolution was started. Take a basic commuter car strip it of all the frills, bump up the horse power and they will line up at the door to buy and go lay black marks on pavement....sounds like Detroit and Japan are going old school to me......fuck the analysts lets get back to selling cars that are fun for the kids...i love it

I would never drive one but I can appreciate the whole thing from behind the wheel of a 69 big block camaro
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And for the record I could afford a much more expensive car but that is not the point.
Now that sounds like something a kid would say....dont step off the plate if its what you like its what you like dont justify your price bracket.

And do not lead yourself to believe that this is a new game either ....go back to the early 80's and your neon box racer was an omni intercooled GLHS

before that it was a duster....before that a dart....before that......

point...this is not revolutionary
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Jim, I think it is revolutionary. Just like the mustang cobra is. For example, the cobra has 400 horsepower for under 35 grand. No othere car can match that. If you want 400 hp in a car other than the ford you have to spend at least 50 grand. It puts that kind of performance in the reach of a lot of folks that would other wise only dream about it. Just like the little noen Srt :-)

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I am not disagreeing with any of you that a BMW or Porcshe or 350 Z are better cars. They weigh about 1500 pounds more too. And for the record I could afford a much more expensive car but that is not the point. The point is that America, the most innovative country in the world has for the first time created a machine that is the fastest production car every made for under 20 thousand dollars. I can appreciate this so I bought one. It was an easy sale. And for those of you that areskeptical and say the car handles like shit etc I suggest you drive a neon srt4 first and then come here and give your comments. The car has the same size tires as the Z and weighs about 1300 pounds less. Trust me it is a very well balanced and good handling car. Anyone want to race?

Now how about buying some 210 HardCore Video picture sets for just $1200.00 from SoBeGirl? I need the money so that I can get a bigger turbo from Mopar :-)

From edmunds.com

SRT-4 Curb Weight: 2939 lbs
350Z Track Model Curb Weight: 3225 lbs

Weight Difference: 3225-2939 = 286 lbs.
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Track Model Curb Weight-----


what does that mean Track Model. Does that mean it does not have all the creature comforts of a production model. Like a passenger seat?

With out it being the track model it can eaisly be 500 pound or more heavier...
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The 350Z Track Model is the heaviest trim of the 350Z. It has all the comforts of the other 350Zs.


If you want I can do the calculation with the base model 350Z which has a curb weight of 3188lbs.
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Jim, I think it is revolutionary. Just like the mustang cobra is. For example, the cobra has 400 horsepower for under 35 grand.
Correction.
2003 Cobra Dyno. Stock.
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You're waiting for a red traffic light, a < fill in any superbike here >
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This is what I wish to be able to show the cars I drive by one day



But guess it will stay a dream...
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Neons handle worth shit. I'll be blowing by you in the BMW while you're rolling your neon!

the srt-4 actually handles great. if you've driven it, which i doubt you have, and you say it handles like shit, its surely the nut behind the wheel(THE DRIVER). you did what most bad drivers do though, went out and bought a better performing car to make up for your lack in driving skills

most of you "car buffs" are such haters. you ragged me out about one lap, and holy shit, i came in 13th overall out of 84 cars in a totally bone stock 27k piece of ricer crap(evo8) :D

but, anyways...congrats on a nice car. im not a dodge fan, but i know a nice car when i see one
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Trouble is my Grandma drives a Neon.
You've got one fucking weird grandma. The Neon is a little sports car, with a predominantly young male and female customer base. The car is small and hard for older people to get in and out of. It also lacks a lot of the luxery features older people usually go for...that's why you see so many grannies in Caddilacs. That and they can crash their big ugly boat cars into your little sports car and only kill you. God I hate old people.
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I am thinking about getting an SRT. I have a regular Neon and a PT Cruiser. I'm also definitely getting a Razor and maybe a Charger if they ever come out. Gotta support the family business.
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One look reveals the probable character of the beast, so let's just cut right to the quick. The Neon SRT-4 rips to 60 mph in 5.6 seconds, to 100 in 13.8, covers a quarter-mile in 14.2 seconds at 102 mph, and keeps on huffin' all the way to 153 mph


http://www.caranddriver.com/article....rticle_id=1868


Yup, all you big dawgs in here with your monster sports cars, this little hot rod will rip up most of them. I laugh at mustangs and pee on boxters. I think one poor guy in his new 350Z almost blew up his motor trying to keep up with me in my 20 thousand dollars. American Tuner. What agreat buy this little racer is...
But its still an american tuner....

I am looking at the stx or supra as a project car drive a cl-s now (once I get a supercharger on) It will be fast ;p
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But I am really happy to buy an American car this time. Maybe it is the war, American Pride I dont know. But this time Dodge has really done it.
It's German engineering. Chrysler is now owned by the Germans. My dad, brother, uncle, aunt, and several other relatives work at one of their plants. Their union doesn't get on the "Buy American" bandwagon anymore since they are a fucking German company located in America now. Not to mention Chrysler moved most of their jobs to Mexico. My PT Cruiser was shipped here from Mexico.
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Correction.
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hes talking about at the crank your showing at teh wheels two different things, all car manufacturers measure hp at the crank
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0-60 in 5.6 seconds is SLOW compared to most sports cars built.
14.2 1/4 mile is SLOW compared to most sports cars built.
You know nothing about cars. It's a Neon. Big whoop. A 350Z would eat you alive, don't lie spam bag.
Business can't be that good if all you can afford is a fucking Neon! Yay! A girl's car..... Wheee!!!!
"For all that, performance is the proof of the pudding in cars such as this, and the Z delivers. The top-of-the-line Track model sprints to 60 mph in 5.4 seconds"

Wow, that extra .2 seconds is really impressive!
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"For all that, performance is the proof of the pudding in cars such as this, and the Z delivers. The top-of-the-line Track model sprints to 60 mph in 5.4 seconds"

Wow, that extra .2 seconds is really impressive!
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thefly, so in other words you can't afford it ?
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Correction.
2003 Cobra Dyno. Stock.
DynoJet's are useless as their numbers can be changed easy.
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DynoJet's are useless as their numbers can be changed easy.
Prove it.
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I can prove it because I drove the cobra just before I bought this none. The cobra is fast, very fast. I had a turbo porsche and I can tell you that the cobra accelerates just as fast as that 400 plus hp porsche. The cobra is def doing 0 to 60 in less than 5 seconds. And for just 35 grand nothing can touch it.
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DynoJet's are useless as their numbers can be changed easy.
"Another test of the 95mm C&L System on a 2003 Cobra using a Mustang Dyno. The before test shows the vehicle with only a Borla cat back exhaust installed on an otherwise stock vehicle. The baseline test with no modifications measured in at 316 rear wheel horsepower."
From here:
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I suppose their dyno is useless too?
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you should be embarrassed, its a neon!

trade that in and get a real car dood.

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my friends and i used to street race lots... probably about 5 cars have wiped out racing us

street racing is way to risky in vancouver so i almost never do it anymore..

but when i pull up next to some fag punk in a riced out honda or 5 liter mustang and i see a cop somewhere at the lights, ill rev my engine and get him to race me, light goes green, he takes off, i cruise slow... then the blue and red lights go on..

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The Neon SRT-4 rips to 60 mph in 5.6 seconds, to 100 in 13.8, covers a quarter-mile in 14.2 seconds at 102 mph, and keeps on huffin' all the way to 153 mph
Just don't try it out or your might need a broom to sweep the ramains of the road...
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fuck dodge. i got an '02 merc cougar that will eat your MOPAR for lunch.
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Old 05-29-2003, 07:10 AM   #92
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Let's see, ah last night I tore up a 98 transam, Mitsu Eclipse GT, Ford Mustang, Honda 2000 S and one old GTO. Dodge or not, my little SRT 4 is pissin on a lot of cars much bigger than it :-)
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Old 06-10-2003, 03:59 PM   #93
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So how much are you selling it for?

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Old 06-10-2003, 04:27 PM   #94
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I drive a 357WHP boosted Acura RSX... Cost me about 30k alltogether now...

Got a T3/T4 Ballbearing turbo (bored and clipped), Catback Exhaust, 2.5 inch downpipe, Mugen 4-2-1 header, Port and Polish, Toxico shocks, Mugen lip, Nology Spark plugs, hyper-ground wires, Mugen front-sway bar, Mugen rear tie-bar, ACT stage three clutch, ultralight racing flywheel, Toda racing camshafts, toda valve springs, civic SI rods, Greddy boost controller, HKS front-mount intercooler, greddy silicon hose kit, AEM big brake kit, stainless steal brake lines, 19 inch Yokohoma dubs, Pirelli rubber, short shifter, momo steering wheel, Sparco racing buckets, 4 point harnesses, carbon fiber dash kit, and last but not least, a mugen pedal set...

Good for 0-60 in about 5 seconds flat (thats only an estimate, I've never taken the time to do do any real testing), haven't dragged it yet, so I dont know its quarter mile time, 160 MPH topspeed... No, dont ask where i tested its speed... cause your not going to get a strait answer.

To be honest, I only read the first few posts, but I figure its a good idea to boast about my car

and.. get this: No decals, bodykits, no 500 lb sound system, no rice. Its all about performace, baby.
Oh let me start the fun.

What's the trims on that t3/t4? Turbonetics or Garrett? What exactly is "bored," or do you mean ported? Weird how a full Garrett style turbo is never bored, ala 5-bolt Ford Exhaust housings.

Also, how are you bolting that turbo up? I wasn't under the impression Greddy made a turbo header for Honda's. It'd be really foolish to put down a N/A parts list for a FI'd car. ;)

What type of engine management is it running? How much boost was required to make 357whp? What octane gas was used? Was your AFR monitored?

Now, just so I don't ruin this thread completely, the Neon SRT-4 is great. I've been modifying 4cyl turbo cars for about 5-6 years now, so I know all too well about the addiction and mod-ability of these cars.

They've been running from 13.8-14.2 bone stock, right around 102mph. That's enough to hang or beat a stock C5 vette, with a less than fluent driver.

With a few mods, expect trap speeds around 105mph, which will be loads of fun. The car runs out of injector at that point, and it would greatly benefit from more fuel anyhow.

Mopar is releasing staged performance kits here soon that will allow up to 300hp (220hp was claimed stock, but cars are dyno'ing AT LEAST that high), so the 300hp will likely be low 300whp level, and well over 112mph traps. These come with warranties and will be amongst the most fun you can have in a 4door.
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Let's see, ah last night I tore up a 98 transam, Mitsu Eclipse GT, Ford Mustang, Honda 2000 S and one old GTO. Dodge or not, my little SRT 4 is pissin on a lot of cars much bigger than it :-)
damn... i wish i didnt sell my 00 ' slp firehawk last year.... I wouldnt mind dusting your lil gay mobile.
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Not true voodooman. The car is cheap because the group of young Dodge enginers that got this SRT project cut costs all over the car. For example, there is no cruise control, there are no electric motors for the rear windows, there is no key hole in the passenger door. There are many examples of this cost cutting all over the car. The money they saved they put into performance parts. And besides, I have a 7 year 70 thousand mile warrenty...

Really, I thought it was funny too. A neon, what the fuck, I am not driving a neon. For gods sake, I had a turbo Porsche just 2 years ago and love that too. But this little dodge is just so much fun, so American (and I feel good about that) and is so cheap. I could not resist myself.


you're talking here like a lot of these options are special to this model of neon. they're not. the dodge "engineers" didn't remove all that crap from the car. i worked at a dodge dealer, and i've had friends that have owned them. basic neons are very screwy, the 4 door models do NOT have power rear windows... this has been part of the car since the beginning. they didn't cut costs here. look at a lot of mainline cars today, they don't have a key hole in the passenger door. it's common practice now. the basic neon does not have cruise control. if you look at a basic neon, i really doubt you'll find much that they "cut out" for cost concerns on this model. so, basically your cost concerns are null. it's a base model neon, with a body kit and a turbo. so, they really didn't "save money and put it into performance parts".

how american do you think that car is really? i'd venture that motor is made by mitsubishi motors. dodge & mits have been making things for each other for a long time, i can remember back to the dodge raider.

not bad times though for a little car like that. i've seen better, cheaper. friend of mine put 500hp nitrous on a stock 2dr neon. ran about 5 runs, and blew. fast though

not bad times, but i wouldn't go flaunting around all the gearheads and tuners how much better it is. find a z28 with a $300 chip and you're eating dust
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Jim, I think it is revolutionary. Just like the mustang cobra is. For example, the cobra has 400 horsepower for under 35 grand. No othere car can match that. If you want 400 hp in a car other than the ford you have to spend at least 50 grand. It puts that kind of performance in the reach of a lot of folks that would other wise only dream about it. Just like the little noen Srt :-)

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405hp vette... $39k.
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Definetly nice car for the money.
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