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Old 04-13-2003, 08:10 AM   #1
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US forces have control of Iraq

I think today is the 24th day of the conflict and it is reported that our forces have entered Tikrit. Tikrit is the last major city to be taken. We now have military control of Iraq.

I predeicted that our forces would have military control of the country in 10 days. It has taken 14 days longer than I predicted.

I predicted that there would be little, if any street to street fighting. I also predicted that if there were to be street to street fighting that it would not happen as classic street to street of old, with the Infantry being on point. There was little street to street and the Infantry was not on point.

I had stated that the Iraq Army was ill led, ill trained, ill armed and that taking Iraq would be a walk in the sun for our forces, and it was.

Where are all of those that said, it would take months-years just to take Baghdad?
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I think we should just be happy that is over and no more people will die.
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I think we should just be happy that is over and no more people will die.
There will be more people die. Control and secure are not synonymous.
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I think today is the 24th day of the conflict and it is reported that our forces have entered Tikrit. Tikrit is the last major city to be taken. We now have military control of Iraq.

I predeicted that our forces would have military control of the country in 10 days. It has taken 14 days longer than I predicted.

I predicted that there would be little, if any street to street fighting. I also predicted that if there were to be street to street fighting that it would not happen as classic street to street of old, with the Infantry being on point. There was little street to street and the Infantry was not on point.

I had stated that the Iraq Army was ill led, ill trained, ill armed and that taking Iraq would be a walk in the sun for our forces, and it was.

Where are all of those that said, it would take months-years just to take Baghdad?
ya like you know everything. you were making a guess and one that was not even an educated guess. simple as that.
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I think today is the 24th day of the conflict and it is reported that our forces have entered Tikrit. Tikrit is the last major city to be taken. We now have military control of Iraq.

I predeicted that our forces would have military control of the country in 10 days. It has taken 14 days longer than I predicted.

I predicted that there would be little, if any street to street fighting. I also predicted that if there were to be street to street fighting that it would not happen as classic street to street of old, with the Infantry being on point. There was little street to street and the Infantry was not on point.

I had stated that the Iraq Army was ill led, ill trained, ill armed and that taking Iraq would be a walk in the sun for our forces, and it was.

Where are all of those that said, it would take months-years just to take Baghdad?

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Why do you call that an "UNeducated guess"? It was very obvious that there was a huge military mismatch between the US and Iraq.

Just because some of you were mislead by your local leaders into thinking Iraq had a chance this time, just because an opinion peace in your local newspaper claims that the US really doesn't have the most powerful military in the world and just because your local TV broadcasters got all excited and tried to turn a few suicide bombers into the Russians at Leningrad doesn't mean you have to be haters.

Does it all make sense yet?
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Why do you call that an "UNeducated guess"? It was very obvious that there was a huge military mismatch between the US and Iraq.

Just because some of you were mislead by your local leaders into thinking Iraq had a chance this time, just because an opinion peace in your local newspaper claims that the US really doesn't have the most powerful military in the world and just because your local TV broadcasters got all excited and tried to turn a few suicide bombers into the Russians at Leningrad doesn't mean you have to be haters.

Does it all make sense yet?
Nonono, we thought it was going to take much longer because Saddam was supposed to have all these terrible weapons of mass destruction. Can't figure out who put that idea in our heads, though
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Nonono, we thought it was going to take much longer because Saddam was supposed to have all these terrible weapons of mass destruction. Can't figure out who put that idea in our heads, though
Saddam had WMD's during Gulf War I too. He didn't use them then either. Why?
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Saddam had WMD's during Gulf War I too. He didn't use them then either. Why?
I give up. Why?
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ya like you know everything. you were making a guess and one that was not even an educated guess. simple as that.
Wrong. It was an educated guess. I spent 12 years in the military, but in addition I have been a student of the art of war and the history of warfare. I also still have frequent contact with friends that are still active duty military ranging from Brigadiers down. I also try to stay up with the current military status of different countries that are potential enemies of the USA.
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Wrong. It was an educated guess. I spent 12 years in the military, but in addition I have been a student of the art of war and the history of warfare. I also still have frequent contact with friends that are still active duty military ranging from Brigadiers down. I also try to stay up with the current military status of different countries that are potential enemies of the USA.
Yeah, right. And you hang around on a porn board. My guess is you're a kid who's watched too many Rambo movies...you're too pathetic to be what you claim
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I give up. Why?
My guess would be that he expected to survive. He did survive in 1991 and was therefore vindicated.

Using chemical weapons would have lost all international support and reduced greatly any chance of political survival.
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Yeah, right. And you hang around on a porn board. My guess is you're a kid who's watched too many Rambo movies...you're too pathetic to be what you claim
There are many people that post here with quite remarkable backgrounds. It's amazing the people that are attracted to money.
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My guess would be that he expected to survive. He did survive in 1991 and was therefore vindicated.

Using chemical weapons would have lost all international support and reduced greatly any chance of political survival.
Ah, OK. So why was he attacked for having WMD's if everyone knew he'd never use them?
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There are many people that post here with quite remarkable backgrounds. It's amazing the people that are attracted to money.
Yes, I'll grant you that...I have a pretty remarkable background as well
There's just something about theking that smells very phoney to me.
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Those with wee little brains, and limited capacity to learn, try following the bouncing ball.

The USA has taken control of Iraq for a multitude of reasons, which have been explained by me, and others, repeatedly. WMD materials being only one of the reasons, and not even the most important of the reasons.
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Awww...c'mon. Give TheKing his due. He was right.

You know if the anti-americans were right and it had taken months to take Baghdad they'd be on here yammering all day that they were right and knew what they were talking about.
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Ah, OK. So why was he attacked for having WMD's if everyone knew he'd never use them?
Saddam HAS used chemical weapons before [Iran].

My comment was just a guess as to why he didn't in this particular instance - and only with hindsight.
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Awww...c'mon. Give TheKing his due. He was right.

You know if the anti-americans were right and it had taken months to take Baghdad they'd be on here yammering all day that they were right and knew what they were talking about.
Aw, c'mon, give us anti-americans our due....we aren't anti-american
But you're right, theking was right, for the most part.
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Aw, c'mon, give us anti-americans our due....we aren't anti-american
But you're right, theking was right, for the most part.
Wasn't talking about you in particular. ;) Was referring more to the extremists who constantly claim they hate America and that Baghdad will take months of hardcore street to street fighting with thousands of American casualties.
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It is difficult for me to understand why some of you people are so obessed with PF. It is difficult for me to understand why you cannot accept the fact that a seventy year old man died of a stroke. Doing a quick search of PF's posts I quickly found at least one post where he had spoke about having had strokes.

On 07-02-2002 PF posted this and actually understated the extent of damage that having strokes had caused him. He had many strokes over a period of several years. It was clear to those that knew him that his memory had been affected, but probably not as clear to those that did not know him as he would have appeared to still be sharp to them. The last stroke that he had prior to his death left him partially paralyzed and with slurred speech. The doctor had told us that he would undoubedtly have a stroke that would kill him and there was not alot that could be done about it. We, the family, were prepared for his death on any given day. He also was a diabetic. At least two people that are members of this board knew him (three counting me) and at least one other member other than myself has posted that he is in fact dead. Read it, learn it, know it and get the fuck over it.


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Actually this is new information that I cannot recall ever hearing about. I am old and I have had a few minor strokes that have affected my memory to some extent, so I am not intellectually as sharpe as I used to be. It is possible that this info disappeared as did the "piano lessons".

I am intrigued by it and will read some more about it. One thing I did run across on one of the links:

http://www.thethresher.com/indiscreet.html

"The most frequently cited and circulated source of Bush-Nazi investigations/conspiranoia, George Bush-The Unauthorized Biography (a biography of George Herbert Walker Bush) by Webster Griffin Tarpley and Anton Chaitkin, published in 1992, while well-documented, is also the most suspect. The problem is that Tarpley and Chaitkin are colleagues of the political cult leader Lyndon LaRouche. Not surprisingly, they insist on overlaying otherwise solidly researched data with wildly speculative interpretations. The book, originally published by LaRouche's Executive Intelligence Review, though "out of print," is ubiquitous on the web, and freely used and quoted by Bush conspiranoia buffs of all persuasions."

This makes me think that alot of what is said about this subject will have to be taken with a grain of salt, but apparently the government did take control of the company.
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Thank you for the compliment. PF was a great man, a unique man, a mans man, and a warrior. I have spent most of my life trying to emmulate him (unsuccessfully I might add), may he rest in peace.
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LOL, quote sombody else than CNN or yourself for a change
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Why do you call that an "UNeducated guess"? It was very obvious that there was a huge military mismatch between the US and Iraq.

Just because some of you were mislead by your local leaders into thinking Iraq had a chance this time, just because an opinion peace in your local newspaper claims that the US really doesn't have the most powerful military in the world and just because your local TV broadcasters got all excited and tried to turn a few suicide bombers into the Russians at Leningrad doesn't mean you have to be haters.

Does it all make sense yet?
he doesn't know the level of training or whether or not there would be street fighting. nobody knew for sure what was gonna happen. there were basically three possibilities with a short one month war and a 1-3 month war being the most likely.

theking you just got lucky with your uneducated guess. if there was street fighting nobody would have noticed your prediction at all and it just would have gone away.
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he doesn't know the level of training or whether or not there would be street fighting. nobody knew for sure what was gonna happen. there were basically three possibilities with a short one month war and a 1-3 month war being the most likely.

theking you just got lucky with your uneducated guess. if there was street fighting nobody would have noticed your prediction at all and it just would have gone away.
I was very familiar with their level of training, discipline, arms, and tactics. It was because of this familiarity that I predicted that there would be little, if any, street to street fighting. Because I am very familiar with our tactics and arms, I knew, beyond any doubt, that street to street would not be conducted with our Infantry on point, as has been the case in past urban warfare.

Several on this board posted that the battle for Baghdad would take months-years. Those are the uneducated guesses.
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I was very familiar with their level of training, discipline, arms, and tactics. It was because of this familiarity that I predicted that there would be little, if any, street to street fighting. Because I am very familiar with our tactics and arms, I knew, beyond any doubt, that street to street would not be conducted with our Infantry on point, as has been the case in past urban warfare.

Several on this board posted that the battle for Baghdad would take months-years. Those are the uneducated guesses.
And you had intimate intel on the state of training and capabilities and morale of the Iraqi troops as well, right?
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For those that have a reading comprehension problem, that is what I said.
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I think today is the 24th day of the conflict and it is reported that our forces have entered Tikrit. Tikrit is the last major city to be taken. We now have military control of Iraq.

I predeicted that our forces would have military control of the country in 10 days. It has taken 14 days longer than I predicted.

I predicted that there would be little, if any street to street fighting. I also predicted that if there were to be street to street fighting that it would not happen as classic street to street of old, with the Infantry being on point. There was little street to street and the Infantry was not on point.
You must be a genius....or retarded. Maybe both.

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shut the fuck up already.

no one cares about you, you fake bitch.

please quote that.
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You must be a genius....or retarded. Maybe both.

The thread where he made his predictions is a mile-long.... FULL of geniuses who argued vehemently-yet-cluelessly with him over every single point.

Now it seems the guy is right.


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shut the fuck up already.

no one cares about you, you fake bitch.

please quote that.
Speak for yourself bitch. I have interest in his point of view.

At least the man knows what the fuck he's talking about unlike most of the 20 year olds on this board.
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Speak for yourself bitch. I have interest in his point of view.

At least the man knows what the fuck he's talking about unlike most of the 20 year olds on this board.
I agree, he called it on the money.



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I think theking should post a pic of himself in his fatigues

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Old 04-13-2003, 03:51 PM   #37
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Speak for yourself bitch. I have interest in his point of view.

At least the man knows what the fuck he's talking about unlike most of the 20 year olds on this board.
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Old 04-13-2003, 04:47 PM   #38
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Wrong. It was an educated guess. I spent 12 years in the military, but in addition I have been a student of the art of war and the history of warfare. I also still have frequent contact with friends that are still active duty military ranging from Brigadiers down. I also try to stay up with the current military status of different countries that are potential enemies of the USA.
Plus he plays RISK every night with his next door neighbor!
Don't you know this dude is like THE AUTHORITY about war?
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Old 04-13-2003, 04:49 PM   #39
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The USA has taken control of Iraq for a multitude of reasons, which have been explained by me, and others, repeatedly.
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Old 04-13-2003, 09:21 PM   #40
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I think theking should post a pic of himself in his fatigues

How about fatigueless.
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Old 04-13-2003, 09:27 PM   #41
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hey theking,

shut the fuck up already.

no one cares about you, you fake bitch.

please quote that.
Lots of people on GFY are fake.

TheKing = a guy pretending to be his son who lives at home with his mom

1/2 of GFY = kids pretending to be guys who don't live at home with their moms

At least some of the time he sounds fairly reasonable and has *some* knowledge of what he's talking about.
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Old 04-13-2003, 09:39 PM   #42
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I predeicted that our forces would have military control of the country in 10 days. It has taken 14 days longer than I predicted.
Took more than twice the time you predicted. Not even close dude
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How about fatigueless.
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Lots of people on GFY are fake.

TheKing = a guy pretending to be his son who lives at home with his mom

1/2 of GFY = kids pretending to be guys who don't live at home with their moms

At least some of the time he sounds fairly reasonable and has *some* knowledge of what he's talking about.
I quit playing pretend about 40 years ago.
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I quit playing pretend about 40 years ago.
About the time of the forced lobotomy I suppose.
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Took more than twice the time you predicted. Not even close dude
Hey "duuuuuude" whas up!!!! Well...I missed it by days, others that were telling me what a fool I was for saying days, were predicting multiple months to multiple years. You do the math.
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About the time of the forced lobotomy I suppose.
Ooooh you fucking guy. Lobotomy??? Fucking guy you got lobotomy! Tell me lobotomy. I will get Joe Sixpack to get his dingo. He will bite you in the balls fucking guy, then his dingo will bite you too. You will have very much pain fucking guy.
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