Because I just don't go away.....
because I explore every facet of this industry possible...
because I have a drive & determination to go far fast.. &
because I dont give up easily & I make sacrifices & take chances..
becuase I experiment.. Because I ask questions & I test everything...
while many webmasters concentrate on just ONE thing, I explore EVERYTHING...
Information is a valuable tool....
no shit....
unfortunatelly,
it's a lot of good talk, but very little WALK.
NEW IDEAS make money on the net,
not studies of old tricks and board readings.
COME UP WITH A NEW IDEA,
like Spanker did with cj
like Hun did with TGP,
and you'll make fortunes from scratch and if you don't....
than keep on talking about "high matters and divine interventions"
Originally posted by Mr. Grimm
If ive learned anything in my years of selling traffic, who cares about shaviing, the bottom line is all that matters. If your bottom line isnt meeting your expectations, find a way to increase your counts, or find another sponsor that shaves in a more complimentary way. People have been fooled into the myth of quality traffic. It isnt quality that gets you there, it is volume. Find a volume that is tolerable to your sponsors, they will shave accordingly, and you can all break bread and drink vodka when you see each other
Sure Grimm.... go ahead and rip me off! Take away money that would much rather go against the principal on my mortgage!
Then let's party!
Dude, I agree with you on the volume thing, but the rest? Are you writing this from Mardi Gras? Have another daquiri!
Sykk,
I'd like to correct you somewhat and in historical sequence,
based upon not income, but contributions
1) Persian Kitty 1995
2) Al Hadhazy (Webpower) 1996
3) Joe Holler -genios! 1996
3A) Robin Nixon -1997
4) Ron Levi (FantasyMan) 1996
5) Mario Carmona/Brina Shuster Xpics 1996
6) David Toine (Python Video) 1996
7)Bill Parody Sr. ATS - first portal CC/Checks processor 1996
8) DMR - first 3rd party processor 1996
9) Deb of the Web - first mega Amateur Site 1995
10) RB (MaxCash) - first sucessful pay per sign up model 1996
I cna probaly go for Top 100 if we continue into 1997, 1998
:-)
Serge - just a little adjustment to your timeline - this id from Click-Cash's FAQ which I found on the http://wayback.com site
"Q How long has Click-Ca$hTM been around? What about similar services? And how much is your total payout?
A Click-Ca$h began life on September 1, 1996. More than 6,000 webmasters who participate have posted banners, and total payout to webmasters averages $25,000 to $40,000 per week. At the date of this writing (July 3, 1997), Click-Ca$h has been in operation for nearly one year and has already paid out more than one million dollars. Click-Ca$h's sponsor, WebPower, Inc., has been on the web since mid-1995, and has been involved in the design and operation of huge commercial adult web sites like Amateur Hardcore and The Hardcore Channels.
What about similar services? Most were modeled after our original Click-Ca$h, and some have even been so bold as to copy all of our HTML and copyright it as their own! Some are good, some pay reliably, others are not so good, and some fail to pay reliably. And still others have a nasty habit of "changing the rules" every few weeks or so. Among our many imitators are "ClickBucks", "BannerBucks", "CashLinks" and "WebSplash". But make no mistake -- there's only one rock-solid program on the market that dependably pays big bucks to you week after week after week -- and that's Click-Ca$h. (If you're thinking of trying out some of these other programs, we recommend the innovative Cyberotica, as they have been around the longest -- even longer than Click-Ca$h -- and have a good reputation, particularly for paying out giant sums of money on a timely basis.) "
(If you're thinking of trying out some of these other programs, we recommend the innovative Cyberotica, as they have been around the longest -- even longer than Click-Ca$h -- and have a good reputation, particularly for paying out giant sums of money on a timely basis.) "
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FM,
we both know the reason WHY Al Hadhazy put it up,
your threat of suing him and one thing about Al Hadhazy of those days-
he didn't come from Audio Text and high prized lawyers were not on his mind at that time.
He had COMPUTER PROGRAMMING background, and you know how intimidating you can be,
we BOTH know it. (remember Pilgrim?)
I have e-mail in my NJ house from Al describing the whole thing in all details.
When I asked him
Al, today, when you make 20 mils a month and only scared of God and US Government,
why don't you stick to the claim of your being first?
he answered:
Serge, yes, we were first, but it was Ron Levi who brought it to the max and made things with it we couldn't.
No boards, no witnesses, nobody hold gun to his head,
but MAN acknowledged YOUR better marketting skills with webmasters.
We spoke numerous times on the subject,
and us, oldtimers, all remember the time line and the way it really happened, including your e-mail about "sabateur" in your midst who curcumvented, as you claimed, your launch ahead of Al by 4 weeks.
Sorry, my old friend and nemesis, but...
I ONLY drink from the river called TRUTH and
"that's my story and I'm sticking to it"
Originally posted by fantasyman OK Serge you're so truthful - we should all believe you over what AL posted on his own site in public.
But I guess when you start a thread like this, with you being the BIGGEST shaver of all, we should believe everything you say.
spin, spin, spin
FM, darling,
there is a way to settle this thing ONCE and for all.
I'm willing to put $10,000,000 in escrow acount and you will do the same.
If you provide written testemony of Al Hadhazy that what he put on that site under duress is TRUE-
you walk away with $10,000,000 for a piece of paper,
I'm giving you 30 days to obtain it.
we are BOTH legendary SHAVERS, why anybody would believe us over Al Hadhazy?
Originally posted by Gary
Also, i heard years ago that he keeps his youthful appearance by eating the brains of small children. find out if thats true.
I should clarify...I don't do the brain thing anymore...ya see what I thought was the voice of Satan commanding me was in fact my friends playing a practical joke on me and forgetting to let me in on the joke....
Originally posted by SykkBoy2 I should clarify...I don't do the brain thing anymore...ya see what I thought was the voice of Satan commanding me was in fact my friends playing a practical joke on me and forgetting to let me in on the joke....
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