Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 20134419)

Nobody CAN take from you in front of your face or in the background.

Do you know how many clicks you sent with 100% accuracy? Yes.
Do you know the exact amount of the check you cashed for that traffic? Yes.
Therefore nobody in the world can fuck with what your actual $/click is at any moment.

The fact that you are trying to rely on a fantasy of 'payments up to nonsense' with 'leak free tours' when those definitions change constantly is your own error. When you look at a sponsor site (any sponsor site) completely ignore what they say they pay per sale. Ignore what they promise to include or not include. Now go look at your own stats. How much did they pay you per click? That number doesn't change, that number isn't a promise, that number is a fact.

The only way that number doesn't "work" is if a program goes under or fails to pay out. The list of sponsors who HONESTLY failed to pay because they went out of business is a thousand times longer than the list of sponsors who failed to pay because they were shady. Anyone can go out of business at any time for any reason. Watch your money, make sure payouts are on time. Never leave a balance in a 'payment solution platform wallet' - and go after actual $/click.

It really is very simple.

Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 20134464)

Sponsor A pays 18 cents a click after shaving you
Sponsor B pays you 5 cents a click and does not shave you
Neither do anything illegal or hurt your bookmarkers in any way

Which one is 'fucking you in the ass'?

Some would say Sponsor B is cheating you out of 13 cents per click you could have earned.

Personally I think you are cheating yourself by getting distracted from the facts that matter.

Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 20134065)

Just Curious.... what is your net revenue per click sent with the sites as compared to other sites in the niche from similar traffic.

That is what really matters :2 cents:

Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 20134044)

I assume you already contacted ReallyUsefulCash.com privately to discuss this (or any other issue) first, right ?

Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 20134065)

Just Curious.... what is your net revenue per click sent with the sites as compared to other sites in the niche from similar traffic.

That is what really matters :2 cents:

Originally Posted by lucas131 (Post 20134099)

i think it is about the standart and morals. if you run revshare program and offer 50/50, then its no reason to try steal members that your revshare partner send you, and if someone is doing it and someone dont like it, someone will report it :winkwink: as its not standart practice, standart is clean tour on revs, on 30/40usd pps there is no doubt you will get tons of shit on your links ... :2 cents: here, someone just reported, that ruc is not clean on revshare sales ... :2 cents:

Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 20134502)

No, I'm saying, the guy paying you the most isn't cheating you. Yes, I'm happy to be paid the most. In fact, I find being paid more is generally better than being paid less.

Your nonsense is all aimed at comparing a real amount to an imaginary standard. My analysis is about comparing a real amount to all other real amounts.

Originally Posted by First Person (Post 20134214)

Relentless always pulls this kind of shit.. He reads the OP up to the part he doesn't agree with, then swoops in on this high horse to ask the 'real questions' about the affiliate doing their homework, etc. Then defends his websecure broclub with all this might and 120wpm of bullshit.

Then he makes a retarded analogy taking everything out of context -- which is like a distraction maneuver.

So, somehow now this thread is about the morality of McDonalds taking naked pictures of people shitting, and selling them. I guess. But WHO gets completely nude while shitting in a public toilet?

Anyway +1 for RUC shady as fuck sponsor.

Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 20134416)

Wow... making confusion and distractions to de-rail threads is a service available to all WebsitesSecure.org-customers?

Originally Posted by Nurgle (Post 20134505)

what a bullshit response, its not all that matters as his net revenue may well be higher if he wasnt being cheated.
U seem to be in favour of sponsors scamming affiliates... as long as your net revenue is ok?????
crickeys

Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 20134525)

Heya Matt26z, great to see your again. Don't you have a contest thread to chase pennies per post with like the one I linked for you in that other thread?

What sites did you own?

Oh that's right... ;)

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 20134523)

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 20134526)

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 20134530)

nonsense....

Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 20134532)

No contest threads anymore eh Matt?
So what do you do in this industry now?

Oh, thats's right...

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 20134523)

Originally Posted by georgeyw (Post 20134546)

I was wondering what his agenda was

Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 20134522)

You can all have your own idiotic axes to grind. Find me anywhere in this thread where I said send traffic to any particular program. I've worked with more than a hundred programs and apply the exact same rules to each of them. If a sponsor doesn't pay you well for your traffic compared to another sponsor, send your traffic to the one who pays you best. Only on GFY could idiots seriously try to distort that into endorsing any particular program. I'm endorsing sending your traffic to where it earns you the most and ignoring the distractions of people who pretend to have information more important than your own stats and your own bank statements.

If sending traffic to sponsorA earns you the most... How they arrive at that amount doesn't matter.

What matters is not what someone promises you, what matters is what someone actually pays you.

That goes for the OP, JT, idiots on GFY, geniuses and anyone else doing this professionally.

Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 20134599)

If there is a leak on any site it already reduced your actual $/click in the analysis and is already factored in the actual payout. If it still pays you the most, it still pays you the most.

Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 20134623)

You send 100 clicks to sponsorA and they pay you $10 with zero leaked clicks.
10/100 = $/clicks

You send 100 clicks to SponsorB and they pay you $20 with 2 sales lost to leaks
20/100 = $/click

You could not have earned more from either sponsor. You did not earn more from either sponsor. You actually earned exactly what they paid you. The most important fact is you get to decide where to send the next 100 clicks.

Get paid 10, get paid 20, find SponsorC or create your own paysite.
That's your options. Nobody gives a fuck what your heart tells you that you could/should/would earn

Try paying your mortgage with "$3,000 + I should have been paid 300 more"
If your mortgage is 3,300... Your bank doesn't give two fucks. They care only about the actual check amount you sent to them
That's because they are a business, not a social club for asshats and mylittlepony enthusiasts.

You got paid an amount. That is the actual amount you got paid.
Really, the math is very easy.

Originally Posted by sabaidii2 (Post 20134625)

This was my first thread (and post) on GFY. And while I'm pleased that there's vigorous interest in my topic, I think the thread has run its course by this point.

Everyone has stated their position. Repeating your position ad nauseum isn't going to convince those who hold a different position. Personal attacks really aren't going to be persuasive either (For the love of God, PLEASE: no more gay images/gifs!)

As I said, this is my first contribution to this board. If there are any active admins, I ask that all personal attack posts be deleted as the value of the thread is diminished by their presence.

Originally Posted by sabaidii2 (Post 20134625)

This was my first thread (and post) on GFY.

Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 20134519)

Nurgle,

Which sponsor pays you the most per click? Would you stop sending them traffic if they were paying you the most after shaving you? If they shaved you and were no longer paying you the most they'd be cutting their own nose off, but as long as they pay you more than anyone else for the identical traffic, all the rest is nonsense.