purecane

Clothing and accessories that display profanity, violence, discriminatory messages or sexually suggestive phrases are not to be worn at school or school functions.

They would be implying this displays violence....it all depends on their view....no where in the school code does it mention firearms of any kind....alcohol...yes...drugs...yes.....firearms.. .no.

and if a teacher told me to do something i didn't believe in i would tell them to get fucked also....a teachers job is to fucking TEACH not impose their political views.....


FIDDY fucked up teachers!

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"On top of his arrest and trip to the police station, Marcum was suspended from school for one day. This morning, he returned to school wearing the same t-shirt, White said.
White accompanied Marcum and his stepfather to a meeting at the school, where the principal, according to White, said that she "hates that it happened" to Marcum.
Logan County students wore NRA t-shirts today in solidarity with Marcum, White said, adding that Marcum is an honor roll student eyeing a career in the military. Zigmond did not mention any disciplinary action during school today.
White is confident that all of the evidence will work in the teenager's favor.
"There's no evidence that Jared almost caused a riot," he said. "They won't be able to produce any evidence to that fact. ... The teacher should have the ability to debate things with students. I don't care how you slice it. ... It was the teacher not acting like an adult. He created the issue."



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tony286

Whats funny is Trayvon was assumed a thug but this kid is automatically assumed a choir boy. hmmmmm

Robbie

It's unreal how our society is.

When I was a kid in high school in the late 1970's I wore shirts with pot leaves on them, a marlboro shirt, and I also had a budweiser shirt with a big can of beer on it.

It was something called "freedom of expression" and was a part of growing up.

After reading all those "rules" on how students can dress, it seems to me that instead of grooming free thinkers like we used to do in school...we are now preparing young adults to be subordinated to AUTHORITY at all times.

And from reading many of the responses here on GFY...it looks like it's working.

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Bojangles

Jared (the student) interview:

http://thetrendguys.com/west-virgini...n-nra-t-shirt/

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Tom_PM

So some conspiracy theorist at the school claims the teacher was not acting like an adult and caused the problem means that it was the t-shirt. I totally get it because it makes irrefutable sense. Nonsense.

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By wearing the tshirt?

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BlackCrayon

and girls should be able to wear bikinis to class right? would you be ok with your daughter doing that? freedom of expression is great but in school it should be done via creative methods rather than who can wear the most offensive shirt. i was in highschool in the 90's and got in trouble for a shirt that said 'mopar kicks ass'. i thought it was dumb but they can't pick and choose what is ok and what isn't. they can't not allow the kid wearing the shirt that says 'i am a teacher killing motherfucker' but allow one that just says 'ass' because its not *that* bad.

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nico-t

I agree about it being ridiculous being arrested with that shirt.
But 'patriotism' is a form of ignorant brainwashing though, it's tribe behavior and a method of leaders to get support of people, for example to go to war for money and power.

Sarah_Jayne

It really is a school by school thing. I graduated in '95. So, I was in school through the 80's and 90's and I can clearly remember kids being sent home to change out of Red Hot Chili Peppers t-shirts because the logo included sperm.

I remember kids being made to turn Spuds Mckenzie shirts inside out because it was a booze advertisement (aimed at kids no less).

The lapse in 'freedom of expression' is covered under the same rules that allow locker searches. While in school the school administration acts as parent.

Sarah_Jayne

By whatever went down with the teacher.

Robbie

I have a kid in high school now. And I can't believe that they do locker searches. It blows my mind.

When I was in high school we had to bring our own locks for our lockers. Now they are not ALLOWED to do that!!! It used to be a requirement. But now the govt. gives them a lock that the school officials have the master key to!!!

Funny thing is, when I was a kid in school...there were guns in every guys pickup truck gun rack in the school parking lot (knowledge and respect of guns), kids were allowed to pretty much wear whatever we wanted (and learned from social approval or disapproval from other kids what worked), we had privacy in our school lockers AND a lot of freedom of speech (I ran an "underground" comedy newspaper that belittled the principal and teachers in a very derogatory manner...the principal would call me to his office and even though he was pissed, all he could do was give me a good talking to).

We weren't coddled and controlled. And guess what? All these school shootings didn't happen, kids grew up healthy as they do now, when we turned 18 we could go to a bar and get a drink (though most of us already had fake ID's by the time we were 16).

Todays kids are like deers in the headlights when they finally cut the umbilical cord from mommy and daddy and the nanny state (usually in their 30's), and don't have a clue.

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Tom_PM

The teacher asked him to turn his tshirt inside out and the kid refused. The teacher yelled at him to do it and the kid still refused, saying it was his first amendment right. Give me a break. This was a punk kid who was trying to do the equivalent of tell the cop that the law is wrong. Such a simple case really. A "Fuck the Police" tshirt might be a first amendment statement too, but they're not going to allow you to wear it in school.

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baddog

How about for arguing/being insubordinate?

baddog

Congratulations on noticing this is not the same world as when you were a kid. Well done.

The Ghost

No, violence in schools is ok. Shirts with violence are not.

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Schools have rules these days that we didn't when we were kids. Deal with it.

Don't like it? Then homeschool your precious darlings and they can wear any damn shirt they want and everyone can quit bitching about rights.

Newsflash: teachers don't just teach, part of their job is and always has been to enforce rules and keep an orderly classroom. Notice I said 'enforce' and not 'create'.

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Vendzilla

Patriotism is a form of pride, having pride in a countries constitution is not a form of brain washing, it's a declaration of rights.

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Slappin Fish

I don't mind the t-shirt but 14 year old's who do politics annoy the fuck out of me. Until you worked at least a day in your life keep your mouth shut.

These kids aren't passionate about anything just regurgitating, right wing or left wing they grow up to be the most obtuse members of society.

Supz

It says he got arrested for almost inciting a riot. he just happened to be wearing an NRA t-shirt.

Idiot.

Slappin Fish

I'm going to send my kid to school with a big boob t-shirt. freedom of speech. I bet half these NRA church going types would try to lynch me.

baddog

A thread title like that won't get as many views.

Vendzilla

While my daughter believes in the same things I do, she is not now nor has ever been a drone. She has however been just like me in thinking that our constitution is being attacked by people that are no where near the intelligence of those that wrote it.

She is a Vegetarian, she listens to AC/DC, she is an artist, she is a Veteran, she is a college student that is pre-med, she has a carry permit and hits harder than most men.

She is wholly a good person and her formative years were during the same years this young kid is going thru. You have to stand for what you believe in!

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Vendzilla

My daughter did a little experiment and wore a GFY shirt to school to see what would happen, she was depressed that only other students noticed!

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Vendzilla

It says that no evidence of a riot was there, that kids cheered, but sat right back down when told to. That the whole thing started because of a t shirt

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pornmasta

if i wear this shirt in france i'll be in serious trouble before the end of the day.
You know "freedom of mind" and other shits...

Slappin Fish

Glad she turned out ok, how do you feel when you see 12 year olds at Gay Pride or in Mosques?

Sarah_Jayne

And try not to be shot while doing it.

Sarah_Jayne

The teacher's noticed. They just didn't want the headache.

Robbie

It seems to be regressing instead of progressing.

I'm not "noticing" it. I'm upset about it.

Can you imagine a free thinker like Ernest Hemingway for instance being stifled by this kind of bullshit at an early age? And how that could have stunted his growth as a human being and writer?

People wonder why there are no artists (music, literature, painting, etc.) with the scope of talent and vision as there used to be.
Well, my answer would be that we coddle young adults and treat them like their five years old and ruin any sense of individualism and creativity they have before they ever get a chance to reach adulthood.

I hope that's okay with you that I'm concerned about that and would like to see our fear driven and suppressive society change for the better.

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Sarah_Jayne

When parents aren't parenting at home, the teachers who spend more time with the kids than their parents do end up having to deal with all the behavior issues the parents ignore. Nearly all the rules are essentially crowd control tactics.

It is all a cycle. Of course good parents often deliver good citizens into the school society those that don't ruin it.

Slappin Fish

Although I agree with what you are saying when we grew up nobody talked back to teacher. There was trouble if we did.

I don't know about 1914 when Hemingway was 14, but it's fairly certain you'd get a slap across the face and another one when you got home.

Robbie

Maybe when I was 10 years old. Not in high school.

I definitely "talked back" and so did lots of other kids in my school. I went to highschool in Bartow, Fla. graduated in 1979.

And as I said I ran an underground student newspaper that had comedic derogatory "news stories" about the teachers and faculty.

I was also a straight A student and drove my teachers nuts half the time and the other half they loved me.

And yeah, I got in "trouble" a few times. But never got suspended or a paddling. Most times it was for smoking cigarettes on school campus (because that was the cool thing to do back then).

But I had screaming matches with my science professor in high school (Doctor Peterson...I still remember his name all these decades later lol). I enjoyed needling him...and he had a bad temper and we were like fire and gasoline coming together.

But it wasn't like that everyday of course. I actually learned a lot in his course and always had a 4.0 grade point average.

Teachers have to be in control of their classroom for sure, but their primary job is to encourage kids to use their minds and THINK. It's a tricky thing to pull off without it going to hell...but as I said, not only did my parents not tell me what to wear when I was 16 and 17 years old...neither did the school.

Funny enough, my oldest daughter (now 21 years old) finished high school here in Vegas. During her senior year she was 18 years old. A legal ADULT. And one day she was feeling ill at school and went to check out and come home.
The school wouldn't let her leave without her parents "permission".

They called me. I laughed at them and asked them what the hell they thought they were doing! I told them my daughter was an adult woman and I couldn't give her "permission" for anything and they needed to stop acting like fools!

They apologized and my daughter got in her car and came home.
Just one example of overreaching.

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Telly

I'm reminded of this gem http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/05/06...gs-cinco-mayo/

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Vendzilla

I don't know about the Gay Pride parade, I think kids should be kids first.
As far as Mosques, If they told her about how they treat women at 12, she never would have wanted to go

I got told not to wear anything that would point me out as an american in Europe, I got off the plane with a t shirt with Lincoln wearing sun glasses playing a drum set with the american flag on the bass drum

Sarah, I raised her in Redding, California, not a liberal haven. People there have ranches and more churches than bars. If they saw it, they would have done something about it.
She turned in a psych paper about it a couple weeks later and got an A-

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Vendzilla

I mentioned that in the OP, it was sickening that a school would do that

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Slappin Fish

Good read Robbie, where I think you get it wrong is a lot of the "coddling" happens at home where today's kids develop an oversized sense of entitlement. There's a difference between high school cheekiness and petulant 14 year old middle school students who demand to get what they want.

Vendzilla

I hate coddling

I still remember my metal shop teacher having concern about the cannon I made in class.

He told me no primer hole. So when I was done, I took it home, all 400 lbs of it, then drilled a primer hole.

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Robbie

I agree with you. Parents need to get their kids ready for the world. Not treat them like infants.

My parents were mean as hell. lol
My mom was a deputy sheriff and my dad was a rancher and citrus grower redneck.

Those were the days when you were a kid and did something wrong you got backhanded. So I learned to be able to confront my parents and have some pretty high tension discussions with them WITHOUT getting hit. It taught me how to do that.

Kids these days (as you said) are so coddled at home by their parents that they have no social skills or understanding of the real world.

That's why I am amazed at how some of the people on GFY talk to others on this board. I know I wouldn't do that unless I expected to get punched in the face.
And I can thank good old mom and dad for teaching me how to argue a point without any physical pain coming to me. lol

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BlackCrayon

just because its what they did 'back then' and you turned out alright doesn't mean it was right of them to backhand you. did you do the same to your children? i'm guessing not.

i think there is a lack of great artists and musicians these days firstly because things are set up differently than they were back in the day. if john lennon was around today, the industry wouldn't sign him in a million years but regardless i think people tend to value a comfortable life over gaining real experiences. you used to go through a lot of shit to find yourself, riding the rails, going from town to town, job to job until you find your niche, now people just want whatever will get them the ipad, smartphone and being able to update twitter 100 times a day.

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Robbie

If John Lennon was 18 years old today he would have already had all the independent thought and creativity squeezed out of him by society.
He'd probably just be another guy playing video games and wouldn't know how to play an instrument or write a good song.

Fortunately he didn't live in todays b.s. suppressed society and instead was able to reach his full creative potential.

I just think that kids have always been slammed with propaganda (including myself)...mostly from Churches. But these days the schools themselves have become a social experiment as they try to do mind control.

Pink Floyd's "The Wall" is more relevant now than it was when it first came out in that regard.

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That is America and their freedoms. NRA is sure a huge political thing.

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Axel_Crak

Last year went i went back from Phx forum, they wouldnt let me take the plane with my t-shirt :

FUCK ME
IM FAMOUS

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For the guns shirt in the school well ya i understand the point to not allow them...

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Vendzilla

20 years ago, people got dressed up for a plane ride, now they wear sweats and flip flops.

I remember that shirt BTW

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DaveMG

bottom line... its a t-shirt!!! Its not like he brought a real gun to school. Leave it alone

Robbie

Yep now people dress to go through security.

Flip flops are the quickest thing to get on and off. I wear loafers so I can still dress nicely. But most people dress as down as they can because of "security" (or as I call it...the govt. searching you for drugs)

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Vendzilla

Exactly

As far as the statement , it's school, they are learning about the constitution right?

Yeah, I put my jewelry in my laptop bag since I have to take my laptop out of it. I leave on my belt, most times I get thru it with a belt on. I don't like flying with flip flops on, just feels uncomfortable.

I was on a train going down the cali coast and they stopped and brought on Home Land Security, cops and FBI. Made a few people nervous

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