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Old 10-20-2012, 11:56 AM   #51
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Old 10-20-2012, 12:23 PM   #52
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Old 10-20-2012, 12:28 PM   #53
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Interesting how few are using Google... only a handful during this week.

What would happen if webmasters and studios joined forces, and made something similiar to Killing off File Lockers, but focus on tubes?

Webmasters can spot content they license very easy, and studios just need to nod, and the search engines will hammered with valid removal requests. Could end the tubes free ride in Google etc.
That's not possible,most of affiliate programs/content producers are deep in tube sites ass.People who are against tubes slowly will gone.
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That's not possible,most of affiliate programs/content producers are deep in tube sites ass.People who are against tubes slowly will gone.
There is almost 100 studios/content owners that have had Google take down Pornhub URLs, since August last year - which is little compared to the stolen content there, but still more than 0.

If I was promoting or buying content from one of these studios/content owners, then I would be happy knowing that they actualy doing something about protecting their copyright:

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Old 10-20-2012, 12:57 PM   #55
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That's not possible,most of affiliate programs/content producers are deep in tube sites ass.People who are against tubes slowly will gone.
Most paysites will be gone including many of those with their heads up the asses of the tubes. Few are going to buy when you are giving away most of the full scenes. The problem will compound as

a. Time goes on and the consumer is more used to free and/or knows what they can get for free.

b, Other content providers choose to share more content freely on these sites or choose to do nothing about it. (increasing a)

That's what's been happening for the last five years.
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Old 10-20-2012, 01:14 PM   #57
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There is almost 100 studios/content owners that have had Google take down Pornhub URLs, since August last year - which is little compared to the stolen content there, but still more than 0.

If I was promoting or buying content from one of these studios/content owners, then I would be happy knowing that they actualy doing something about protecting their copyright:
It's also better for affiliates to promote these programs. Ratios tend to be better when the full scenes are getting removed. It can be tricky to realize this until it's too late when you are a sponsor. At first all those sales from Pornhub might seem for free but there's a hidden cost which you will see in due time. In doesn't take a genius to see why or how this is.

Promo content won't cause this as much but even that will hurt your affiliates when the ratios fall (because their surfers have already seen it at Pornhub) and likely cause some of them to stop promoting you or leave the business. There will be some consequences from that too such as loss of the free backlinks and traffic as they leave.
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Old 10-20-2012, 03:29 PM   #59
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"Please send us more of your full length videos! We will even ALLOW you to leave the watermark on your own work! AND, we will put a small (tiny) link back to your website with our affiliate code on it! And all of that will be given away for free to millions of people on a page covered in spammy pre-paid ads for OTHER sites that you won't get a penny for! Please enjoy all the great traffic we are gonna send you and the huge amounts of signups!
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Old 10-20-2012, 03:44 PM   #61
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"Please send us more of your full length videos! We will even ALLOW you to leave the watermark on your own work! AND, we will put a small (tiny) link back to your website with our affiliate code on it! And all of that will be given away for free to millions of people on a page covered in spammy pre-paid ads for OTHER sites that you won't get a penny for! Please enjoy all the great traffic we are gonna send you and the huge amounts of signups!
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Ariel, just roll over there with your crew wearing that pornhub t-shirt. Can't rely on gfy apparently.
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Posing for pics with a Pornhub t-shirt to kiss the butt of a fucking tube pirate site...and then finding your stuff stolen on it.

Brings to mind the old saying: "lay down with dogs, wake up with fleas"
it was quite amusing. :D
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"Please send us more of your full length videos! We will even ALLOW you to leave the watermark on your own work! AND, we will put a small (tiny) link back to your website with our affiliate code on it! And all of that will be given away for free to millions of people on a page covered in spammy pre-paid ads for OTHER sites that you won't get a penny for! Please enjoy all the great traffic we are gonna send you and the huge amounts of signups!
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I passed this on to someone over there, hopefully it should be taken care of soon.

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Actually, YES...you do need to send a DMCA.

You might be hot, but you still have to play by the same fucking rules as everyone else...somtimes.
I know these guys for years now and many are my friends so I think I'm allow to just ask nicely ;) For the rest I do send a ton of DMCA

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Actually, YES...you do need to send a DMCA.

You might be hot, but you still have to play by the same fucking rules as everyone else...somtimes.
ahaha well tks for the compliment but a softcore video without music?! I don't see it very entertaining :P Send me better songs to put on my videos and I'll change them LOL ;) xx

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so fucking hot...though posting the vids here might not of been the best way to get them removed. probably got more people watching them.
I don't mind people watching them and while they are online they are still sending me promo :P I just thought it was the time to remove them ...or give them more promo?! Who knows ;)

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That is hours of research online for royalty free open for commercial use that I bought or that fans sent me over the years

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Ditto. Some people should sit down and think about things a bit.
I have nothing against tube sites and pornhub, I don't mind wearing their shirts. Plus I don't understand why everybody is so bitter about tube sites because it's not their fault if the users are uploading the full length content. The internet is changing and the customers are too, we just have to adapt.

It's the main rule of evolution, the ones who are not ready to adapt are doomed and will disappear... right now let's try to see the tubes as a new way to promote and try to work around it. They wont go away and the trading will only get worst. Let's try to invent new ways to get our customers to pay and do it with a smile

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Plus I don't understand why everybody is so bitter about tube sites because it's not their fault if the users are uploading the full length content.
You do know the very tube your content is on used to PAY people to steal content and upload it to all their tubes, don't you? They were caught red handed and outed publicly. Of course this was after they denied even owning tubes in the first place. But yea, it's not their fault. Poor guys.

Being in Canada, home of the pirates, I can't even imagine the nonsense they fill your head with there to justify their involvement in piracy. "It's all user uploaded, promise!"
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...lol ho'ws that? ;) Dirty enough? :P
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You obviously don't know me for saying something that retarded... Thanks for trolling...
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You obviously don't know me for saying something that retarded... Thanks for trolling...
You promote pirates then complain when your content is pirated? Tells me everything I need to know. Nice content though ?.. take care.

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You promote pirates then complain when your content is pirated? Tells me everything I need to know. Nice content though ?.. take care.

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There is so much to know and learn about me, I don't think you'll have enough energy for it ;). But soon you'll discover some....

This tread was not a complain or a promotion for and against Pornhub only a way to contact some old friends and ask then nicely something

Thanks for the compliment on my content wait till my affiliate program is launch take care!
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is this the chick from the videos posting under ArielRebel nick or its her webmaster/mistress?
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What a shit stain thing to say to someone - even by GFY standards.

You're a classless douche.
I have nothing nice to say to anyone associated with content thieves. You (an excellent photographer) of all people should feel the same.

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I have nothing against tube sites and pornhub, I don't mind wearing their shirts. Plus I don't understand why everybody is so bitter about tube sites because it's not their fault if the users are uploading the full length content. The internet is changing and the customers are too, we just have to adapt.

It's the main rule of evolution, the ones who are not ready to adapt are doomed and will disappear... right now let's try to see the tubes as a new way to promote and try to work around it. They wont go away and the trading will only get worst. Let's try to invent new ways to get our customers to pay and do it with a smile
Hey ArielRebel. Well the problem isn't the tube sites themselves or even the idea of user uploads. The problem with sites like Pornhub is that they deliberately seem to have policies which encourage the proliferation of pirated content. If you get some time look up Youtube's so-called Three Strikes policy. In brief what 3 strikes means is that after a user has three DMCA complaints their account is suspended and all content is removed. So if the user is a big pirate on Youtube and uploaded 5,000 Ariel Rebel videos all those videos would be disabled after they are suspended without you having to send 5,000 DMCA requests.

The difference between Manwin's tube properties and Youtube is that Manwin has no such policy. Instead they seem to go to great lengths to make it tedious for the content owner forcing them to have to constantly play whack-a-mole. Many have suggested to Fabian that he implement three strikes but to dae as far as I know it has never been done.

I'm actually a fairly reasonable person. Believe it or not but I even have sites which accept user uploads. But like I said the failure of Manwin to implement three strikes along with all the games to justify it suggests to me that they are purposely profiting off of the theft of your content.
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This thread probably generated several signups, a few new affiliates and lots of sympathy.
Tomorrow her name and popularity will again be in the face of one of the biggest porn production companies......
I don't know about her brain....
Do you think people are sometimes judging a book by its cover a little too fast ?
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What a shit stain thing to say to someone - even by GFY standards.

You're a classless douche.
The girl is promoting pirates.

And you view that as what.. classy?
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I always thought it was mostly an act, but you really are that fuckin' clueless.
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Old 10-21-2012, 08:42 AM   #88
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stealing ariel's sales.

ariel supporting pornhub.

You've been porn hubbed!

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Old 10-21-2012, 08:57 AM   #89
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I have nothing against tube sites and pornhub, I don't mind wearing their shirts. Plus I don't understand why everybody is so bitter about tube sites because it's not their fault if the users are uploading the full length content. The internet is changing and the customers are too, we just have to adapt.

It's the main rule of evolution, the ones who are not ready to adapt are doomed and will disappear... right now let's try to see the tubes as a new way to promote and try to work around it. They wont go away and the trading will only get worst. Let's try to invent new ways to get our customers to pay and do it with a smile
I guess the same could be said for file lockers. I personally don’t see a difference between the two when content owners don’t upload their own content.

I’m still trying to wrap my brain around why someone would want to join a site when they can get it for free. If I needed to go to the jack room and back off, there’s plenty of free current content out there for my 15 minutes of fame. Hell, the content is out there as soon as it's released, so no new updates on your site, no need to join.

I can adapt to that.


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Old 10-21-2012, 09:09 AM   #90
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Plus I don't understand why everybody is so bitter about tube sites because it's not their fault if the users are uploading the full length content.
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I always thought it was mostly an act, but you really are that fuckin' clueless.
fucking classic.
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Old 10-21-2012, 09:24 AM   #91
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Old 10-21-2012, 09:59 AM   #92
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You obviously don't know me for saying something that retarded... Thanks for trolling...
Okay, I am convinced that this thread was solely for the publicity. There is no way you can be serious and come up with the comments you have made. Coming to GFY because the Pornhub guys are your friends and they will remove the vids because you requested it on GFY?

And the "not their fault" comment was hilarious.
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Old 10-21-2012, 10:03 AM   #93
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There is so much to know and learn about me, I don't think you'll have enough energy for it ;). But soon you'll discover some....

This tread was not a complain or a promotion for and against Pornhub only a way to contact some old friends and ask then nicely something

Thanks for the compliment on my content wait till my affiliate program is launch take care!
Why would anyone sign up as an affiliate when they know you support the sites that are giving your content away?

Serious question.
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Old 10-21-2012, 10:27 AM   #94
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There is so much to know and learn about me, I don't think you'll have enough energy for it ;). But soon you'll discover some....

This tread was not a complain or a promotion for and against Pornhub only a way to contact some old friends and ask then nicely something

Thanks for the compliment on my content wait till my affiliate program is launch take care!
a lot of tube sites have employees who upload videos on the site too. its not just 'users'.
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Old 10-21-2012, 10:28 AM   #95
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Posing for pics with a Pornhub t-shirt to kiss the butt of a fucking tube pirate site...and then finding your stuff stolen on it.

Brings to mind the old saying: "lay down with dogs, wake up with fleas"
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Old 10-21-2012, 10:30 AM   #96
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You promote pirates then complain when your content is pirated? Tells me everything I need to know. Nice content though ?.. take care.

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p.s.: If for some reason you forget to give us all your content for free...don't worry! We will get it via 'user upload' "
Nailed it

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"Please send us more of your full length videos! We will even ALLOW you to leave the watermark on your own work! AND, we will put a small (tiny) link back to your website with our affiliate code on it! And all of that will be given away for free to millions of people on a page covered in spammy pre-paid ads for OTHER sites that you won't get a penny for! Please enjoy all the great traffic we are gonna send you and the huge amounts of signups!
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But looks like there are some stupid program owners who fall for this...

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Old 10-21-2012, 10:34 AM   #98
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You do know the very tube your content is on used to PAY people to steal content and upload it to all their tubes, don't you? They were caught red handed and outed publicly. Of course this was after they denied even owning tubes in the first place. But yea, it's not their fault. Poor guys.

Being in Canada, home of the pirates, I can't even imagine the nonsense they fill your head with there to justify their involvement in piracy. "It's all user uploaded, promise!"
Most models are clueless about the biz (that quote of hers just proves that), they should stick to filming content
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What a shit stain thing to say to someone - even by GFY standards.

You're a classless douche.
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Most models are clueless about the biz (that quote of hers just proves that), they should stick to filming content
https://youtube.com/watch?v=UlGUrvfk7mI

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