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Old 10-21-2012, 10:40 AM   #101
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Old 10-21-2012, 12:06 PM   #102
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Hey ArielRebel. Well the problem isn't the tube sites themselves or even the idea of user uploads. The problem with sites like Pornhub is that they deliberately seem to have policies which encourage the proliferation of pirated content. If you get some time look up Youtube's so-called Three Strikes policy. In brief what 3 strikes means is that after a user has three DMCA complaints their account is suspended and all content is removed. So if the user is a big pirate on Youtube and uploaded 5,000 Ariel Rebel videos all those videos would be disabled after they are suspended without you having to send 5,000 DMCA requests.

The difference between Manwin's tube properties and Youtube is that Manwin has no such policy. Instead they seem to go to great lengths to make it tedious for the content owner forcing them to have to constantly play whack-a-mole. Many have suggested to Fabian that he implement three strikes but to dae as far as I know it has never been done.

I'm actually a fairly reasonable person. Believe it or not but I even have sites which accept user uploads. But like I said the failure of Manwin to implement three strikes along with all the games to justify it suggests to me that they are purposely profiting off of the theft of your content.
Facebook has a 1 strike policy. They will shut down your page with no warning whatsoever if they see the need to, even if it is due to false DMCA claims. Then they ignore your counter DMCA or any contact with them. They just don't give a shit, but will shut your entire account down and all content with it over a single image if they see fit.

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From spot 3 to spot one. Good move.

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Well,this thread slowly turns into backfire :D
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Old 10-21-2012, 12:24 PM   #106
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Well,this thread slowly turns into backfire :D
Slowly? Rather quickly.

Some people are fucking morons.
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Slowly? Rather quickly.

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Ariel Rebel, reading this thread convinced me that your pretty face is sucking the ass of pirates with passion and deep faith that youre doing the right thing.

/me disappointed big time



Just to be sure: this thread is 100% promotion with fake request to remove the full length videos just?
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Old 10-21-2012, 01:31 PM   #111
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The op pre photoshop.

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Old 10-21-2012, 02:06 PM   #114
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There are many others here with the same attitude as her who don't get 1/10th of the crap for it. It's easy to drink the koolaid with some of the BS people post here. I can't say I blame her for falling for it. Like I said I think she should sit down and think about it some more.
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Ariel, I once thought you had a kind of respect for yourself.
Is Ariel Rebel currently a Manwin property ?
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Plus I don't understand why everybody is so bitter about tube sites because it's not their fault if the users are uploading the full length content.
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Lol... Good old gfy. I remember this board being much more friendly a couple of years back and these days all you get is misogyny and retardness all over the place...

Think what ever u want of me guys this was a real request for those videos to be removed and I figured they will do it this week sometime. I'm not in a hurry anyways and I didn't feel like sending DMCAs to people I know I can contact otherwise.

I don't really care about all the trolling because no matter what I say, you will either think that I'm lying and doing it for attention or twist my words and think I'm just another dumb model... It's sad and kind of ignorant on your part but that's ok I dont judge.

Don't u think I don't know all these facts about tube sites and big companies like Manwin that you've been posting left and right? Of course I'm well aware of everything but what's the point of being mean online even tho you know how bad and wrong some people can deal their business... I'm not here to make enemies and I try to treat everybody nicely even if I dont agree with what they do. That's just the way I am.

Tube sites, trading boards etc.... are not going anywhere and users and big companies employees will keep uploading and trading our hard work but we have to deal with it the way we can. It's also not because somebody is working for a company that I don't agree with their business sens that it's automatically a bad person. That would be like saying that because we work on porn we are all bad people witch is wrong...

Keeping trolling me, twisting my words, calling me an attention whore, dumb or what ever if that make you feel more manly. I'm able to take it
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Lol... Good old gfy. I remember this board being much more friendly a couple of years back and these days all you get is misogyny and retardness all over the place...

Think what ever u want of me guys this was a real request for those videos to be removed and I figured they will do it this week sometime. I'm not in a hurry anyways and I didn't feel like sending DMCAs to people I know I can contact otherwise.

I don't really care about all the trolling because no matter what I say, you will either think that I'm lying and doing it for attention or twist my words and think I'm just another dumb model... It's sad and kind of ignorant on your part but that's ok I dont judge.

Don't u think I don't know all these facts about tube sites and big companies like Manwin that you've been posting left and right? Of course I'm well aware of everything but what's the point of being mean online even tho you know how bad and wrong some people can deal their business... I'm not here to make enemies and I try to treat everybody nicely even if I dont agree with what they do. That's just the way I am.

Tube sites, trading boards etc.... are not going anywhere and users and big companies employees will keep uploading and trading our hard work but we have to deal with it the way we can. It's also not because somebody is working for a company that I don't agree with their business sens that it's automatically a bad person. That would be like saying that because we work on porn we are all bad people witch is wrong...

Keeping trolling me, twisting my words, calling me an attention whore, dumb or what ever if that make you feel more manly. I'm able to take it
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Ariel, my advice to you is to keep as much of your content in your members area as you can.

A membership has no value if it's all out there for free.

And remember this...the only guy getting rich off Pornhub is Fabian. Not you. He uses your hard work to draw traffic to his site and he's getting paid for pre-paid ads from the traffic that your content is bringing to him.

He derives all his "power" off the backs of others.

Strip Pornhub down to nothing but Brazzers, Twistys, and any other programs he's bought and it's traffic would drop like a stone.

Not suggesting that you act "mean". I'm just pointing out that while you may think these people are your "friends"..they are fucking you over while smiling in your face.

And sites like Pornhub are not bulletproof. Hell, I'm surprised that Fabian isn't already in jail with all the attention he draws to himself from the govt.
But trust me...sooner or later that whole business model is going to be shut down.
The only thing keeping them in business is an antiquated DMCA law.

Once that changes and they suddenly have to have 2257 like everybody else and/or they are able to actually be sued in court for copyright infringement...those sites will be gone.

And if there's one thing I can tell you from my experience...you never know when laws will change and what will prompt it.
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Ariel, my advice to you is to keep as much of your content in your members area as you can.

A membership has no value if it's all out there for free.

And remember this...the only guy getting rich off Pornhub is Fabian. Not you. He uses your hard work to draw traffic to his site and he's getting paid for pre-paid ads from the traffic that your content is bringing to him.

He derives all his "power" off the backs of others.

Strip Pornhub down to nothing but Brazzers, Twistys, and any other programs he's bought and it's traffic would drop like a stone.

Not suggesting that you act "mean". I'm just pointing out that while you may think these people are your "friends"..they are fucking you over while smiling in your face.

And sites like Pornhub are not bulletproof. Hell, I'm surprised that Fabian isn't already in jail with all the attention he draws to himself from the govt.
But trust me...sooner or later that whole business model is going to be shut down.
The only thing keeping them in business is an antiquated DMCA law.

Once that changes and they suddenly have to have 2257 like everybody else and/or they are able to actually be sued in court for copyright infringement...those sites will be gone.

And if there's one thing I can tell you from my experience...you never know when laws will change and what will prompt it.

And you will be overexposed with FREE images of yourself everywhere with no reason for a surfer to join your site. You are a draw for someone else's business. Wise up.

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Ariel, my advice to you is to keep as much of your content in your members area as you can.

A membership has no value if it's all out there for free.

And remember this...the only guy getting rich off Pornhub is Fabian. Not you. He uses your hard work to draw traffic to his site and he's getting paid for pre-paid ads from the traffic that your content is bringing to him.

He derives all his "power" off the backs of others.

Strip Pornhub down to nothing but Brazzers, Twistys, and any other programs he's bought and it's traffic would drop like a stone.

Not suggesting that you act "mean". I'm just pointing out that while you may think these people are your "friends"..they are fucking you over while smiling in your face.

And sites like Pornhub are not bulletproof. Hell, I'm surprised that Fabian isn't already in jail with all the attention he draws to himself from the govt.
But trust me...sooner or later that whole business model is going to be shut down.
The only thing keeping them in business is an antiquated DMCA law.

Once that changes and they suddenly have to have 2257 like everybody else and/or they are able to actually be sued in court for copyright infringement...those sites will be gone.

And if there's one thing I can tell you from my experience...you never know when laws will change and what will prompt it.
For sure I totally understand and realize the impact that these sites have on my business trust me... Like I said, I don't agree with a lot of things but I'm still trying to be friendly anyways. Sure i know some people will smile to my face and stab me in the back but that's just life in general and I'm great at judging character after all these years in this business.

Do I wish things would be different? Of course but I do what I can like everybody else without trolling and insulting people. I expected getting bashed here but I don't care

Thanks for talking to me like a normal person btw ;) I appreciate
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Lol... Good old gfy. I remember this board being much more friendly a couple of years back and these days all you get is misogyny and retardness all over the place...

Think what ever u want of me guys this was a real request for those videos to be removed and I figured they will do it this week sometime. I'm not in a hurry anyways and I didn't feel like sending DMCAs to people I know I can contact otherwise.

I don't really care about all the trolling because no matter what I say, you will either think that I'm lying and doing it for attention or twist my words and think I'm just another dumb model... It's sad and kind of ignorant on your part but that's ok I dont judge.

Don't u think I don't know all these facts about tube sites and big companies like Manwin that you've been posting left and right? Of course I'm well aware of everything but what's the point of being mean online even tho you know how bad and wrong some people can deal their business... I'm not here to make enemies and I try to treat everybody nicely even if I dont agree with what they do. That's just the way I am.

Tube sites, trading boards etc.... are not going anywhere and users and big companies employees will keep uploading and trading our hard work but we have to deal with it the way we can. It's also not because somebody is working for a company that I don't agree with their business sens that it's automatically a bad person. That would be like saying that because we work on porn we are all bad people witch is wrong...

Keeping trolling me, twisting my words, calling me an attention whore, dumb or what ever if that make you feel more manly. I'm able to take it
I like people who doesnt run and stand tall, so congrats for that, you owe my respect

Yes, some answers about the userupload were soso, but no big deal

For the DMCA true you dont have to send it when you know well the company, but perhaps per mail/skype could be more efficient and discrete... but maybe you did want some exposure and i dont have a problem with that too

Have a good night !
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And you will be overexposed with FREE images of yourself everywhere with no reason for a surfer to join your site. You are a draw for someone else's business. Wise up.

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I know and that suck...

My sales are not suffering from this because there is still lots of nice people who still want to join pay sites lucky for me.

I could be angry all the time for people trading my hard work (and trust me, it used to piss me off till no end) but I don't want to feel discourage and bitter everyday of my life . I just find new ways to make sales and up to date it's working very well plus I send all the dmca I can
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I like people who doesnt run and stand tall, so congrats for that, you owe my respect

Yes, some answers about the userupload were soso, but no big deal

For the DMCA true you dont have to send it when you know well the company, but perhaps per mail/skype could be more efficient and discrete... but maybe you did want some exposure and i dont have a problem with that too

Have a good night !
You're right it was late and for me it seem like the best idea at the time but I realize that it wasn't one thing for sure is that I won't come back here for that... :P

Even if I'm kind of amused to see everybody bashing me left and right... Good old gfy
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Lol... Good old gfy. I remember this board being much more friendly a couple of years back...
A couple of years back you weren't posing in PornHub t-shirts and defending tube sites.

It's called cause and effect sweet cheeks.

Google it
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A couple of years back you weren't posing in PornHub t-shirts and defending tube sites.

It's called cause and effect sweet cheeks.

Google it
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Aww you really think I'm that dumb that's ok... Ill play the part to make you feel like your comment really affected me

But keep in mind that I'm still the same sweet Ariel that I was years back and I was only wearing one of their shirts because I answered an interview for them that got me new fans

That's it, that's called "doing my job as a model" what would u prefer me doing? Refuse to answer an interview that could give me promo? Lol how's that make any sens :p

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I like people who doesnt run and stand tall, so congrats for that, you owe my respect

Yes, some answers about the userupload were soso, but no big deal

For the DMCA true you dont have to send it when you know well the company, but perhaps per mail/skype could be more efficient and discrete... but maybe you did want some exposure and i dont have a problem with that too

Have a good night !
I wonder how many studio lawyers are waiting for them to do just that dumbfuck.
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Old 10-21-2012, 11:20 PM   #139
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Old 10-22-2012, 01:03 AM   #140
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Old 10-22-2012, 01:10 AM   #141
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so when you did that shooting in pornhub tshirts, you didnt know that they are stealing content of other producers?
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Old 10-22-2012, 06:09 AM   #142
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I wonder how many studio lawyers are waiting for them to do just that dumbfuck.
?? Waiting for what ??? To do that ??? What is that ??? Take out the content ??? IF you mean that, well she know them, and they do pull out content normally... anyway

I dont get your reply, and if your insult me, well go GFY noob
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Old 10-22-2012, 06:17 AM   #144
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I know and that suck...

My sales are not suffering from this because there is still lots of nice people who still want to join pay sites lucky for me.

I could be angry all the time for people trading my hard work (and trust me, it used to piss me off till no end) but I don't want to feel discourage and bitter everyday of my life . I just find new ways to make sales and up to date it's working very well plus I send all the dmca I can


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Old 10-22-2012, 06:42 AM   #145
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?? Waiting for what ??? To do that ??? What is that ??? Take out the content ??? IF you mean that, well she know them, and they do pull out content normally... anyway

I dont get your reply, and if your insult me, well go GFY noob
They have to get a proper DMCA. That is the law. They can't just remove content for buddies.
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Old 10-22-2012, 07:06 AM   #146
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Old 10-22-2012, 08:59 AM   #147
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Old 10-22-2012, 09:25 AM   #148
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They have to get a proper DMCA. That is the law. They can't just remove content for buddies.
Nope, we do that often, same as Ariel..

There's is some laws right, but its not always applied exactly by the book

No need DMCA for good partners/friends...

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Old 10-22-2012, 09:30 AM   #149
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Nope, we do that often, same as Ariel..

Theres is some law right, but its now always applied exactly

No need DMCA for good partners/friends...
I'm no expert, but as far as I understand it, unless you ONLY respond to DMCAs you would be demonstrating editorial judgement, and therefore lose the safe harbour protection DMCAs afford you.
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Old 10-22-2012, 11:33 AM   #150
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I'm no expert, but as far as I understand it, unless you ONLY respond to DMCAs you would be demonstrating editorial judgement, and therefore lose the safe harbour protection DMCAs afford you.
If true, I think they just set a precedent.
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