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Xenadryne... how bad is it really?
I want to lose between 15 and 20 pounds, and although I am against diet pills, I dont have enough will to actually go on a diet. So, despite the fact that Xenadryne with Ephedra has been banned in the States, it is available in Mexico.
But, how dangerous is it really? Has anyone tried it? |
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it doesn't matter what pill you are taking if your diet isn't in order. it just won't make a difference at all. the only role for thermogenics in weight loss is when someone has low body fat and wants to go lower.
its ephedra thats banned by the way. i dont think its been proven to be bad in any real way at all. |
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Its bad, Except when it makes you go so fast that you have to clean the house.
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I am against pills. It can't be healty anyway. YOU MUST MOVE YOUR ASS AND GET SOME TRANNING, NOTHING GOOD WILL HAPPEN TO YOUR BODY IF YOU USE PILLS, GO ON DIET AND DONT DO ANY TRANNING. .RESPECT YOURSELF AND GET TO THE GYM. GOOD LUCK
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I used to take it with the ephedra, never had a problem with it. It can be different for everybody though. Also, if you're not going to excersise or diet with it, it's probably not gonna do much.
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I agree with them. I use to take it too. But will like any diet you have to eat right and excerise..
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Check out ECA stack: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECA_stack - it's essentially the same thing. You can buy the ingredients separately and save money. Also, ECA is better. Xenadrine doesn't contain ephedrine anymore. Using the ECA stack will get you cut up and get you to lose water weight quickly. Just keep away from high sodium containing foods and watch your carb intake - breads and pasta especially.
Don't believe the hype when it comes to this Ephedrine (which is the only reason why Xenadrine was considered 'bad'). Alcohol kills more people in a day than Ephedrine has since it's introduction to the supplement industry. Oh, and there is a magic pill - it's called T3. It's a thyroid hormone: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thyroid_hormone. You'll die instantly when you take it -- or so the media says, lol. It's a great way to burn fat and lose water weight. It decreases any bloated look you get from eating too much sodium and carbs. T3 is the hormone that is in a nutshell your metabolism. When someone is thin and says they have a high metabolism, then there body natually produces more T3 than average. Anyway - keep in mind none of this is a substitute for a well balanced diet, but it can be ;) Eric |
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Ephedrine will be making a comeback in limited form here in the states, so I hear.
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You can still purchase ephedrine in gel cap form containing guaifenesin at some health food stores. They need a pharmaceutical license in order to distribute it.
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I can buy it. Cheap to.
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czarina, hit me up and I'll tell you what you need to do. I lost 15lbs in about 6 weeks on my sexy diet.
edit: taking pills w/o diet and exercise won't do jack. |
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Not true. About 6 or 7 years ago I took Xenadrine with Ephedra and I lost 35 pounds in one month without changing my diet at all. |
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I agree with Eric...the ECA stack is the same thing as xenadrine with RFA.... you get caffeine (200 mg), pseudoepherine about 50mg and some baby aspirin ,about 25mg (this is optional)....take that before you workout..u will loss massive weight...do this and cut carbs..u will be looking fly in no time |
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I've busted my nuts to lose 35lbs and I'll be god damned if I'll gain it back ![]() |
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thermogenics do VERY LITTLE to increase the total amount of calories burned per day without significant attention to diet and exercise. most pro bodybuilders maintain that the benefit is about 5-10% more calories burned per day. shooting cocaine wouldn't speed up your metabolism to the point that you were burning an extra 3500 calories a day without any other changes in daily habits or diet. |
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yeah i know. I lost 90% of my weight w/o pills. Diet and exercise work amazing if you do it right. I just added pills recently on top of my normal routine to push me over a plateau and I'm taking Hydroxycut Hardcore (good shit)
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no offense..but hydroxycut sucks ass....even the one with ephedrine before the ban sucked ass..u have to take like 100 pills a day too... i recommend the eca stack for ya =) |
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diet + exercise 95%
supplements 5% everything is bad if you do too much, ive taken ephedra (16mg/day) i think in each serving there is 24mg of ephaedra in xenadryne tho
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btw, i take 6 pills/day 3 at 7am and 3 at 6pm |
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oic...not bad...u can try the EC stack...the A is really just for high blood pressure because your blood is thinned out....
6 pills isnt that bad....do u cycle? |
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I kept the weight off for about 3 years. I've since gained 10 pounds back so I'm still 25 pounds lighter after the 6 or 7 years. |
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Never said I didn't exercise. I said I didn't change my diet. |
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35lbs in a month is a little hard to believe my friend...unless u were like 500 lbs to begin with...what was ur starting weight
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Way less than 500 lbs. Doesn't matter to me if you believe it or not. I know it's true. I felt WAY better. I was much more active, my sexual performance was boosted as well. I got lot more work done because I had more energy and therefore only required about 3 hours of sleep per day.....Or so I thought. The down side is..... I ended up catching one hell of a cold....I assume it was because my body was not really getting the rest it needed. The cold wiped me out and I lost my motivation. |
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i know what u mean about the cold..sometimes a multivitamin isnt enough when ur body isnt fully rested because you are dieting...best thing to do is eat alot on the days u feel ur gettingsick
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The funny thing is I was feeling very healthy so I decided to go for a jog on an icy evening. Sucked a lot of very cold air into my lungs. The cold symptoms kicked in the next day. I was doing all of the other exercise at home. Weight bench and Nordic Track. Mostly the Nordic Track.....Which is currently sitting about 5 feet from me. I could use it but I'm wrapped up in a blanket on the couch and rather comfy at the moment. ![]() Could somebody bring me a cheeseburger please? |
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yeah...i run about 4-5 miles a day at least 3-4x a week..that keeps it off....
weights not too much although i should do more.... u can always try to take some zync echincea to bolster ur immune system.. |
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the problem is that I dont have the time to exercise much since I work about 10 hours a day and after that I have to take care of my baby and husband, and some a little bit of stuff around the house. Plus since I sit in front of my computer all day long, I don't burn many calories. I don't think I eat that bad or that much for that matter, it's just a matter of low metabolic rate because of not moving much.
I used to be a professional cyclist when I was younger, and after that, I worked out a lot, but now I'm a mommie, and you guys know that mommies don't have much me-time. |
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by the way, Xenadryne with efedra (or is it ephedra) is available in Mexico without a problem, and I spend weekends in Mexico, so...
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I lost 30 pounds on atkins without excercise
but becareful atkins is a lifstyle not a diet cause you will gain it all back and then some if u go back to eating like u did before ![]() Now I just eat healthy. Fruits Veggies, Grains, sweet potatoes lean red meats chicken an d stay away from anything white or processed Me before ![]() me after ![]() |
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I think you should just train mate.
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yeah...i heard meth does the same thing too
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The only safest way to lose weight is threw excersise and proper diet.
I change my eatings habits in December and started excersise regulerly. Although i got kind of set back with a bad back I did lose 15 pounds in the first 2 months when I was following my excersise and diet daily. No real other solutions IMHO
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check out lipodrene
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ya true u can lose weight fast but to keep it off is the tricky part. Unless u change yur diet and excercise ur just gonna go up and down.
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but you said it with the implication that xenedrine was the cause of the weight loss. the more overweight a person is, the easier the initial weight loss is. it should be very easy for you to lose 5-10 pounds a week until you start getting down to under 250 or so.
generally speaking, pills aren't going to help anyone that isn't already on top of their diet and exercising already. |
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