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AaronM 04-22-2003 03:32 PM

Can You Trust Your Content Provider?
 
The following is a list of content providers who's sites have been reviewed for 2257 Compliance information.

If the Content Provider listed is compliant with U.S. Law then I have also linked their listing to their respective sites. Since the majority of this list was retrieved from adult-contentprovider.com, I have left their referral codes in place where applicable.

If I have overlooked your 2257 info then please feel free to contact me and show me where I can verify it so that I may make corrections as necessary.

With the recent additions to the laws surrounding 2257, it is now more important than ever to make sure that we are all protected. If you are purchasing content licenses from a provider who is not even covering his own ass then how can you expect that he will cover yours if and when the time comes?

Please keep in mind that not all of these companies are located in the U.S. so they may not be required by their own laws to keep the same records as U.S. companies. However, just because their laws do not have the same requirements for them does not mean that the U.S. laws so not require it from you.

Here is a link to this info. If any valid mistakes are reported to me then I will update this page as needed.

One final note. This listing is probably going to piss off a lot of people since several of these providers post to this and other webmaster boards. Before you go and flick me shit...Keep in mind that you are the one responsible for your own company, not me. If you do not have an attorney then I suggest you retain one and get your shit in order. Talk to J.D. from xxxlaw.net before it is too late.

Steve 04-22-2003 03:37 PM

I smell an xbox

Steve 04-22-2003 03:38 PM

also, thanks for the very useful info, Aaron - this will come in handy

ldinternet 04-22-2003 03:42 PM

AMPContent links to http;//www.ampcontent.com/

Just an FYI. :)

AaronM 04-22-2003 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ldinternet
AMPContent links to http;//www.ampcontent.com/

Just an FYI. :)

Old news...but thanks. :winkwink:

ry0t 04-22-2003 03:55 PM

Aaron is the man!

LadyMischief 04-22-2003 04:01 PM

Awesome job man.. it's about time someone actually compiled a list like this ;) Maybe people will pay a little more attention to the law if they're "called out" so to speak. Would be a nice thing to see.

Brujah 04-22-2003 04:02 PM

So it's a list of all the illegal content providers ? In violation of federal law ? Tsk tsk. :glugglug

jact 04-22-2003 04:05 PM

:thumbsup Some of those not compliant jobs blow me away.

Dawgy 04-22-2003 04:07 PM

what is the link to current 2257 laws, id like to read it again.

ive seen several posted but my search for 2257 turned up so many results i dont have time to search them all for the link...

ry0t 04-22-2003 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dawgy
what is the link to current 2257 laws, id like to read it again.

ive seen several posted but my search for 2257 turned up so many results i dont have time to search them all for the link...

woofmedia is expired just thought I'd give you a heads up.

gothweb 04-22-2003 04:12 PM

I have my 2257 info in my license, and I believe I am well compliant. I would be curious to see if you agree, and to be added to the list. I certainly do everything I can to be compliant.

MCsteve-matrix 04-22-2003 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dawgy
what is the link to current 2257 laws, id like to read it again.

ive seen several posted but my search for 2257 turned up so many results i dont have time to search them all for the link...

Here you go... 2257

its a pdf file.

Rockstar 04-22-2003 04:14 PM

Hi AaronM

I am curious as to how we are in violation of any 2257 laws when we include BOTH model ID's and Model releases with our content purchases.
We are very concerned if we are in voliation and we would also appreciate any help you can offer

Thanks
Rockstar
http://www.faproductions.com

MichaelAncher 04-22-2003 04:16 PM

If you had checked my cover/index site, you would have noticed that Glamourgirls fully complie to 2275...please check and correct.:)
Cheers
Michael

http://www.glamourgirls.biz/gfy/GGlogo.jpg

AaronM 04-22-2003 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gothweb
I have my 2257 info in my license, and I believe I am well compliant. I would be curious to see if you agree, and to be added to the list. I certainly do everything I can to be compliant.
I will check it out. :thumbsup

AaronM 04-22-2003 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rockstar
Hi AaronM

I am curious as to how we are in violation of any 2257 laws when we include BOTH model ID's and Model releases with our content purchases.
We are very concerned if we are in voliation and we would also appreciate any help you can offer

Thanks
Rockstar
http://www.faproductions.com

What? Am I your attorney now? Ask him.

Rockstar 04-22-2003 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM


What? Am I your attorney now? Ask him.

Wow thanks for all your help.............

AaronM 04-22-2003 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MichaelAncher
If you had checked my cover/index site, you would have noticed that Glamourgirls fully complie to 2275...please check and correct.:)
Cheers
Michael

http://www.glamourgirls.biz/gfy/GGlogo.jpg

They day you become compliant and notify me then I will fix it.

You are NOT compliant.

Gary 04-22-2003 04:21 PM

Theres nothing more fun than content providers eating their own. LOL

Its like watching vultures work on a corpse.

POPCORN!!!!

Brujah 04-22-2003 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rockstar


Wow thanks for all your help.............

Just sue him for libel. He said you're running an illegal content business in violation of federal law and by making a list, people are discouraged from purchasing from you.

EscortBiz 04-22-2003 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rockstar
Hi AaronM

I am curious as to how we are in violation of any 2257 laws when we include BOTH model ID's and Model releases with our content purchases.
We are very concerned if we are in voliation and we would also appreciate any help you can offer

Thanks
Rockstar
http://www.faproductions.com

Section 2.1b
Content provider shall sell content at a rate greater then $2257

basschick 04-22-2003 04:23 PM

Rockstar, do you have the i.d. in your primary place of business and available to law enforcement during business hours? are the i.d.s organized by shoot so you can easily find them?

your front page says custodial info is available by request, but the law says the custodian address must be given in a prominant place on the website. perhaps that is the problem. if you make them ask you, you're breaking the law.

Gary 04-22-2003 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortBiz


Section 2.1b
Content provider shall sell content at a rate greater then $2257

ROFL!!!!

FATPad 04-22-2003 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM


What? Am I your attorney now? Ask him.

I like the idea of the list. Wonder if it'll make it to any resource sites.

I do think that if you're going to make a list of illegal content producers and showcase it for the world, you might want to let them know what you think is wrong when they ask you.

LadyMischief 04-22-2003 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gary
Theres nothing more fun than content providers eating their own. LOL

Its like watching vultures work on a corpse.

POPCORN!!!!

How is it eating their own? He's given a list of those who don't comply AND who do comply. Don't shoot the messenger.. Aaron is doing both these providers AND webmasters a service by showing them they need to be complaint!!

jact 04-22-2003 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by basschick
Rockstar, do you have the i.d. in your primary place of business and available to law enforcement during business hours? are the i.d.s organized by shoot so you can easily find them?

your front page says custodial info is available by request, but the law says the custodian address must be given in a prominant place on the website. perhaps that is the problem. if you make them ask you, you're breaking the law.

Bingo!

Kenneth K 04-22-2003 04:25 PM

Hi Aaron,

Eventhough we are not required to follow the US law, we still have to follow the Danish ones - our 2257 info can be found here: http://www.1stcontent.com/license.asp

/Kenneth

FATPad 04-22-2003 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah


Just sue him for libel. He said you're running an illegal content business in violation of federal law and by making a list, people are discouraged from purchasing from you.

If it turns out Aaron is right, there won't be a case for libel.

AaronM 04-22-2003 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rockstar


Wow thanks for all your help.............

It's a tough biz, kid.

When you do not check with an attorney and then do not play by the rules, it has the potential to hurt those of us who do. Do not expect any favors from me.

Gary 04-22-2003 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LadyMischief


How is it eating their own? He's given a list of those who don't comply AND who do comply. Don't shoot the messenger.. Aaron is doing both these providers AND webmasters a service by showing them they need to be complaint!!

Easy there. Just having fun picturing a 20 page thread of content provider fighting it out. LOL

I think the list is great. Good job aaron

basschick 04-22-2003 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jact


Bingo!

i got bingo! did i win money!??!?!?! *lol*

AaronM 04-22-2003 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah


Just sue him for libel. He said you're running an illegal content business in violation of federal law and by making a list, people are discouraged from purchasing from you.

Yep...Sue me....Bring the courts attention to your fuck up. :1orglaugh

After the hearing, they may want to take you into custody though. :glugglug

jact 04-22-2003 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by basschick


i got bingo! did i win money!??!?!?! *lol*

Sure :1orglaugh

AaronM 04-22-2003 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by basschick
Rockstar, do you have the i.d. in your primary place of business and available to law enforcement during business hours? are the i.d.s organized by shoot so you can easily find them?

your front page says custodial info is available by request, but the law says the custodian address must be given in a prominant place on the website. perhaps that is the problem. if you make them ask you, you're breaking the law.

:thumbsup

Somebody gets it. :)

basschick 04-22-2003 04:29 PM

for the last year, whenever i go to a new content provider, i write and ask them about their custodian. very often they have it in their homes or offices, and often no one is there during business hours. some use a post office box address. many don't have the custodial info where it can be found.

maybe this list will help get these folks legal - some have great content but when i talk to them about their custodian, they have excuses. fuck that!

Rockstar 04-22-2003 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by basschick
Rockstar, do you have the i.d. in your primary place of business and available to law enforcement during business hours? are the i.d.s organized by shoot so you can easily find them?

your front page says custodial info is available by request, but the law says the custodian address must be given in a prominant place on the website. perhaps that is the problem. if you make them ask you, you're breaking the law.

Yes we do have it available to anyone and organised by model and we also INCLUDE this information ie: model id's and model releases for all content sets we sell

i can NOT imagine how we are not compliant.
But if we are NOT i want to know why and i will have this resolved because i don't see how any of our clients or potenial clients can feel that we are not LEGIT when we provide this information with EACH purchase

But we will have that infomation posted this ASAP if that is what we are not doing and thanks for your imput

jact 04-22-2003 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by basschick
for the last year, whenever i go to a new content provider, i write and ask them about their custodian. very often they have it in their homes or offices, and often no one is there during business hours. some use a post office box address. many don't have the custodial info where it can be found.

maybe this list will help get these folks legal - some have great content but when i talk to them about their custodian, they have excuses. fuck that!

Too many webmasters are ignorant of the requirements, and a scary amount of content providers are. I'm not subject to 2257 but there's no way in hell I'd take the chance by not complying since most of my customers are US residents.

AaronM 04-22-2003 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kenneth K
Hi Aaron,

Eventhough we are not required to follow the US law, we still have to follow the Danish ones - our 2257 info can be found here: http://www.1stcontent.com/license.asp

/Kenneth

Yes Kenneth, I saw this page but it does not conform to US law.

If this is the physical addy of your records AND your custodian of such...Please add his or her name above the address and let me know so I can update your listing.

Sankt Pauls Plads 9, kld.
1314 Copenhagen K
Denmark

Before Rockstart bitches....Notice how Kenneth at least made an effort?

jact 04-22-2003 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rockstar


Yes we do have it available to anyone and organised by model and we also INCLUDE this information ie: model id's and model releases for all content sets we sell

i can NOT imagine how we are not compliant.
But if we are NOT i want to know why and i will have this resolved because i don't see how any of our clients or potenial clients can feel that we are not LEGIT when we provide this information with EACH purchase

But we will have that infomation posted this ASAP if that is what we are not doing and thanks for your imput

You have some reading to do. Giving docs don't mean lickity if you aren't following the laws as they're laid out. What, you making the webmasters the custodians now?


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