:glugglug let's get as many glugg glugg's quoted here

hey Aaron, fix the link to http://www.adult-contentprovider.com on your page!

lol, and it took me almost to the end of this thread to realize that was the list from my site :)

Don't forget to label FalconFoto as an illegal content provider too. Gail will be so pleased she may even call you personally.

edit2: oh wait matrix is. sorry

LOL.

Taken care of. :thumbsup

Matrix is on the page.

As for David Lace...I actually chatted with David a little while I was making this list. The fact is that the info is well displayed in his site. As mentioned before...I am not being that picky.

So.. manny's site will NOT be posted?

Who the fuck is Manny?

Glad to see I'm on the list and 2257 compliant! :thumbsup


Cheers!

AaronM or others...

I have a question. I have this posted on an AVS site.

All girls herein are 18 years of age or older.
By entering this site you swear that you are of legal age in your area to view adult material and that you wish to view such material.
Records required pursuant to 18 U.S.C. § 2257 are held by the Webmaster of this site or the sponsors of this site.

I do not know if all sponsors are compliant. They say they are but I do not know this for a fact. So am I protecting myself with the disclaimer or not? If not what do I need to do to protect myself?

just be sure to have the correct info about the 2257 info of the content providers. The disclaimer protect you I think :thumbsup

Webmasters need to get informed too.. THey trust that their content provider is covering their ass and doing things legally. But unfortunately a lot of people don't even know where to start.

It's blind faith. Loyalty is good, but if you don't watch your own ass, nobody else is going to watch it for you, that's for sure. They can say they will, they might even intend to.. but it's always best to be armed with information. That way nothing can catch you by surprise. If more WEBMASTERS were a little more "paranoid" about 2257 compliance, more content providers would act accordingly. It's a vicious circle, really. Too many people coming into the biz with bright ideas and no real INFORMATION. They work on whim and conjecture, but don't bother to hunt up the facts. Aaron is giving a great big reality check and probably scared the shit out of a lot of people today, but better he does things this way here than them learning the hard way behind bars as Bubba's bitch.

A broker should not only confirm that these records exist, but it's a VERY good idea to keep them on file as well as confirmation of this fact. We require full documentation for every content set we broker for other producers in an unaltered state. We will provide altered (for model's protection) documentation for webmasters if requested. However, as I say, I know we confirm this information and keep records on hand, I would assume most otehr brokers who are concerned with full compliance would do so as well.

hey Aaron what a great idea!

thanks for pointing out that our sister site (Fantasy Modeling) was not in compliance. Its been updated and can viewed here http://www.fantasymodeling.com/2257.html and this page is accessible from our home (enter page) http://www.fantasymodeling.com

So remind me again why he didn't simply post explicit rules that each webmaster should LOOK for when buying content? Or post a complimentary thread advising adult content providers on the most common simple violations of 2257 so they could update their sites if they so chose? As Ralph Nader can attest, it's very difficult to make a difference standing out in front of huge corporate offices with picket signs. It is far easier to educate the consumer. However if Ralph Nader wrote Unsafe At Any Speed while he sat on the board of Ford Motor Co. he would have been laughed off the public stage. Sadly, adult webmasters are simply that gullible.

Buy Aaron's content! He was the one who took the huge and risky step to help purify the industry by pointing out missing names and links on his competitors' websites! And all you content providers, make sure you become Aaron's friend so he will notify you before his next 'crusade' (or simply forget to put you on the list.)

Do you honestly think that if it was presented as ANYTHING but a swift kick in the ass, half the people who ARE doing something would have even bothered? Most people aren't that big on subtlety. Sure, Aaron was a little tactless.. but guess what.. the law isnt' so tactful either. Everyone is so busy bitching about Aaron being "mean" that they seem to forget that he's doing them a HUGE favor, and nobody asked him to do it. He's doing it for the general betterment of the industry as a whole, and I for one applaud it. What do you want him to say? "Pardon me, but you might want to read my little list here, and umm.. could you please be nice and not make all of us suffer for your laziness?" Hell with that.


Aaron :thumbsup

I agree. It is an important service. :thumbsup

Thanks for the support, Dan. I have updated that listing as well. :thumbsup

Aaron,

I use some of the free content from several of my providers. How do I list them on my 2257 page?? Or can I link to their 2257 pages??


Sorry for the stupid questions..

Thanks Bro and anytime!!

good work aaron

Well, I am currently working on this 2257 page for all of the PIBCash sites. I have not had it reviewed by any attorney's yet but I am pretty sure it is safe.

This may be a good option for you. Create one page with all of your providers and simply link it to your sites or galleries. In the case of sponsor content, talk to your sponsor and see what they suggest.

http://www.tonifreeland.com/2257.htm

It would not hurt for you to spend a little and get a paid consultation with an Internet attorney. Same goes for pretty much anybody in this business. Not everybody can afford to drop a few grand for a retainer but a couple hundred may keep you out of hot water.


Edit: I know the Isamar provider is missing some info. That is why this page is not live for all of our sites yet.

We require copies of all documents for items we sell. I believe Web-Legal has started to do this too for anyone non-US based. Not sure about any other brokers.

So you're actually the custodian for every photo? Try again.

How about checking http://www.amateur-cutie-content.com and http://www.rockbottomcontent.com both good companies by my experience they might as well be on your list.

Brad

An explanation please?

for those content providers that aaron listed you should give him a link back! After all if you are in compliance he has done you a favor by listing your site.

I added your button here http://www.fantasymodeling.com/resources.html

and will get one on http://www.fantasycontent.com tomorrow when my partner is back in the office.

Do you hold the unaltered documents for all the photos you're claiming that (YOU) the "webmaster" has on record? No, then stop telling the authorities that you're taking 100% responsibility and simply put the title 18 information up. Why goto jail when all it takes is a cut and paste?

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

NEWSFLASH!

This is GFY...Please stop making sense. :321GFY

this is why i only sell content i get from the newsgroups.


Good idea Aaron. Now you need to find an online lawyer with a sponsor program and add a banner to that page, haha.

and i assume this is where i go POW BAM 150 BIATCH !!

Oh, so sorry. My bad.

That's actually a good idea. First one? :1orglaugh

i have good ideas all the time... trouble is i like to nap alot so there isn't much acting on them

:1orglaugh

Arron thanks for letting us know. I believe we have fixed the problem. If it is up to par can you update your list.

:thumbsup

anrob
sexxxgames.com

Not listed:
FalconFoto
Scarlett
iSupply
Xamo
Pornholio
Candid
Rpet
Necoeds
Partycontent

Also
ZipContent (just checked, they have a neat system for finding info)
FetishBrokers
Xamo
PixMasters

And a similar thread made me start looking at my sponsor sites - can't find any 2257 info easily available from the *webmaster* portions of the ARS sites (might be linked to from the actual paysites though, need to look) and Silvercash has 2257 info inside the member's area posted with the free content.

Edit: ARS paysites link to this page - it's just not easily found from within the member's area.

My 2257 info has always been on my site so I dont know why you have me listed as non compliant

FT*

Done. Thanks. :glugglug