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LadyMischief 04-23-2003 04:08 PM

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Originally posted by jact


You're an idiot.:321GFY

Yeah, but you were telling me just last night that you like the way his ass looks in tights.. Sour grapes?

jact 04-23-2003 04:13 PM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief


Yeah, but you were telling me just last night that you like the way his ass looks in tights.. Sour grapes?

You mean in the tutu? :D

StuartD 04-23-2003 04:17 PM

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Originally posted by jact


You mean in the tutu? :D

looked better than your man boobs in a tube top! :1orglaugh

AaronM 04-23-2003 05:14 PM

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Originally posted by MaskedMan
So who all have updated or fixed their shit and who have just bitched and moaned and left it as it is?

I wanna know who I would and wouldn't buy from :winkwink:

Feel free to buy from any of them. Just use the list to determine which ones YOU wish to do business with.

StuartD 04-23-2003 06:38 PM

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Originally posted by AaronM


Feel free to buy from any of them. Just use the list to determine which ones YOU wish to do business with.

yeah, definitely good to have.... I mean, I know nothing about that 2257 compliant stuff.
So I'd have no clue which content providers would or wouldn't get me in trouble if I used their stuff.

Digipimp 04-23-2003 07:02 PM

I don't see Jezebel Content on the list, what's their status. And no I'm not in any way affiliated with them, but have been to their site many times and was thinking of buying some stuff from them.

12clicks 04-23-2003 07:19 PM

I put my grandmom's address down. That usually slows the feds down enough for me to skip town.:thumbsup

AaronM 04-23-2003 07:50 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks
I put my grandmom's address down. That usually slows the feds down enough for me to skip town.:thumbsup
I listed a black uncle of mine.

Great minds and all that shit.......:thumbsup

kaylacam 04-23-2003 09:52 PM

AasronM is right...he is ALWAYS right...all bow before AaronM!

StuartD 04-23-2003 11:57 PM

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Originally posted by kaylacam
AasronM is right...he is ALWAYS right...all bow before AaronM!
uh uh.... no way, he got me to do that bowing thing in front of him once and... well, let's just say, I nearly had a mouthful :1orglaugh

I still can't believe all the threads about this. What the hell? He posts to the people just to give them a heads up about who they're doing business with and whether or not there's legal risk there and suddenly he's the bad guy?

The only thing I can think of for those complainers is.... "those who are guilty complain the loudest"

I mean... it seems to me that people who are compliant, or are willing to fix what ever they need to be compliant are being real civil about it. Those who aren't just want to bitch and complain and blame someone else for something to draw attention away from their own screw ups.

Paul Markham 04-24-2003 12:27 AM

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Originally posted by charly
The last bit is right, the first sentence (I quoted) wrong. never rely on someone else to keep your arse out of jail.

Ask an attorney and see if he advises "Yes it's perfectly fine for you to let Boris Ivabignob the Urals" :1orglaugh

Sorry that sounds messed up, even I don'tknowwhat I'm trying to say half the time. This is what I meant to say.

No attorney worth a damn will advise you to let someone else protect your business and your freedom. Especially if that guy is overseas and definately if the guy you bought the content from is between him and you.

The only thing they will tell you is be your own document holder, examine each and everyone to authenticate it.

Of course Dave Clark knows 4 or was it 5 attorneys who say trust someone else. :1orglaugh

Paul Markham 04-24-2003 12:43 AM

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Originally posted by MaskedMan


yeah, definitely good to have.... I mean, I know nothing about that 2257 compliant stuff.
So I'd have no clue which content providers would or wouldn't get me in trouble if I used their stuff.

Can I suggest, respectfully, that you find out what the laws are that govern the business you are in.

AaronM 04-24-2003 01:03 AM

300 any time soon?

Kimmykim 04-24-2003 01:25 AM

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Originally posted by J.R.
You don't think Frank Bongiorno had his 2257 in place
with the Attorney General said he was a child pornographer ?

Oops, had to kick in here.

Frankie was NOT prosecuted by the Federal court system per se. Frankie was targetted, along with several others, by a woman from Michigan who happened to be running for elected office, had no concept of the law or how it worked, and was not actually prosecuted, but threatened at a point in a campaign where being able to publicize these threats was a primary point in the campaigning.

Saying that Attorney General was after him is like saying that Bobby Kennedy was after the KKK back in the 60s, and it's just not true in this case.

JeremyB 04-24-2003 03:33 AM

Aaron, could you add us to the list here?

Our 2257 info is linked on the bottom right of every page throughout the site and is compliant even though we are based in the UK:

http://www.adultcontent.co.uk/

http://www.adultcontent.co.uk/info/18usc2257.phtml

Cheers :-)

BTW - your "contacts" e-mail address is bouncing :-(

Triple 6 04-24-2003 04:12 AM

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Originally posted by AaronM
300 any time soon?
lol, i see u really do jerk it to post counts:1orglaugh

:thumbsup

AaronM 04-24-2003 09:05 AM

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Originally posted by Jeremy-RR
Aaron, could you add us to the list here?

Our 2257 info is linked on the bottom right of every page throughout the site and is compliant even though we are based in the UK:

http://www.adultcontent.co.uk/

http://www.adultcontent.co.uk/info/18usc2257.phtml

Cheers :-)

BTW - your "contacts" e-mail address is bouncing :-(

Done. Thank you. :)

Digipimp 04-24-2003 09:07 AM

Aaron I asked about Jezebel Content, they aren't on your list and I was considering buying from them at some point so can you tell me what you think of their status?

AaronM 04-24-2003 09:19 AM

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Originally posted by Digipimp
Aaron I asked about Jezebel Content, they aren't on your list and I was considering buying from them at some point so can you tell me what you think of their status?
They are not compliant.

LadyMischief 04-24-2003 09:49 AM

I'm a little teapot....

Easton 04-24-2003 11:11 AM

300... i figured it was time i show up on the longest thread of the week

AaronM 04-24-2003 11:15 AM

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Originally posted by Easton
300... i figured it was time i show up on the longest thread of the week
Got any inpit for the topic?

Brujah 04-24-2003 11:18 AM

Was FalconFoto compliant ?
http://www.falconfoto.net

AaronM 04-24-2003 11:24 AM

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Originally posted by Brujah
Was FalconFoto compliant ?
http://www.falconfoto.net

I love it!

This is from their FAQ's page:

"Are the girls over 18: Yes we only shoot girls over the age of 18. We require 2 forms of identification from the girls as proof of age. We keep all records on file. You should post a ?custodian Of Records? notice on your site which gives our contact details incase a government agency wishes to check any documents. This notice is listed in the license."

Of course they have no such link on their site but hey.....Their info is listed in the sample of their license. I will add them to the list with the next update.

jabula 04-24-2003 11:26 AM

:thumbsup

Nydahl 04-24-2003 03:00 PM

Hey Aaaaaaaaaaron can you check www.adultczechcontent.com
in menu on the left "2257 info"
also - put a link to www.adultczechcontent.com/main.htm under my button and keep it till May the 1st - I will wire you 100 bucks

AaronM 04-24-2003 06:23 PM

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Originally posted by Nydahl
Hey Aaaaaaaaaaron can you check www.adultczechcontent.com
in menu on the left "2257 info"
also - put a link to www.adultczechcontent.com/main.htm under my button and keep it till May the 1st - I will wire you 100 bucks

Your listing is updated.

Do you honestly think that you can buy my sig space for $100 per week?

Think again. My sig space is a hell of a lot more valuable than that. The various things offered in my sig are either somthing that I have a vested interest in or, in the case of ISPrime, somebody who has earned the additional exposure by providding the abusolute best service possible.

You can pay me for the exposure from this thread and my list by sending some money to a charity...I don't need it.

Sassyass 04-24-2003 09:03 PM

Thank you Aaron for fixing my list status so promptly. It sucks to be wrong, It sucks even more to be wrong and noted so on the web.

sneaker 04-25-2003 12:04 AM

AaronM,

I believe this was an excellent attempt to bring light to 18US2257, but you obviously were not "backed by legal counsel" reason I know this is what attorney in thier right mind would ever advise you to POST a list like this. In my honest opinion you should remove it. Secondly there is no case law to effectively understand the law and how it would be enforced, to this extent who would want to "go down that path to find out?" Since we shoot some of our material in countries where "hardcore" porn is forbidden and also travel around to other countries we don't have to comply with 18USC2257. But since we sell to pussy magazines and also U.S. based customers we included / maintained all documentation and records in accordance with the law as advised by our attorney which we have been doing for over 10 years (most of those years to pussy magazines). And in each "zip" file was the proper 18USC2257 text file with the name of the person who is tasked as the custodian of record and address to his place of business. As for your list which we believe serves a good purpose just the wrong approach we have updated our site to point to the same text file that is in each zip file we send to our customers. As you can see in the post on 02/06/2003 use the link below we were asked about the same 18USC2257 by a potential customer and the user "Carrie" was nice enough to post the text file that was inside the content zip file so this is nothing new our customers have always been compliant and protection of not only ourselves but our customers has been our number one priority.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=105330 (close to bottom of first page.)


Anyways you should really remove the list or at least reword the list to cover your ass. IMHO

jact 04-25-2003 01:06 AM

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Originally posted by sneaker
AaronM,

I believe this was an excellent attempt to bring light to 18US2257, but you obviously were not "backed by legal counsel" reason I know this is what attorney in thier right mind would ever advise you to POST a list like this. In my honest opinion you should remove it. Secondly there is no case law to effectively understand the law and how it would be enforced, to this extent who would want to "go down that path to find out?" Since we shoot some of our material in countries where "hardcore" porn is forbidden and also travel around to other countries we don't have to comply with 18USC2257. But since we sell to pussy magazines and also U.S. based customers we included / maintained all documentation and records in accordance with the law as advised by our attorney which we have been doing for over 10 years (most of those years to pussy magazines). And in each "zip" file was the proper 18USC2257 text file with the name of the person who is tasked as the custodian of record and address to his place of business. As for your list which we believe serves a good purpose just the wrong approach we have updated our site to point to the same text file that is in each zip file we send to our customers. As you can see in the post on 02/06/2003 use the link below we were asked about the same 18USC2257 by a potential customer and the user "Carrie" was nice enough to post the text file that was inside the content zip file so this is nothing new our customers have always been compliant and protection of not only ourselves but our customers has been our number one priority.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=105330 (close to bottom of first page.)


Anyways you should really remove the list or at least reword the list to cover your ass. IMHO

Case law for 2257. here

This was sent to me by
Lawrence Walters
Weston, Garrou & DeWitt
www.FirstAmendment.com
407.788.7337

MixPhoto.Sales 04-25-2003 01:07 AM

AaronM. How can you decide who is compliant and who is not. We provide our customers both with model's ID and Models Releases. You did not work with us, so you can not know if we are comliant or not.
Please change your information.

jact 04-25-2003 01:08 AM

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Originally posted by MixPhoto.Sales
AaronM. How can you decide who is compliant and who is not. We provide our customers both with model's ID and Models Releases. You did not work with us, so you can not know if we are comliant or not.
Please change your information.

You obviously don't know the law. Read the thread.

Nydahl 04-25-2003 02:46 AM

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Originally posted by AaronM


Your listing is updated.

Do you honestly think that you can buy my sig space for $100 per week?

Think again. My sig space is a hell of a lot more valuable than that. The various things offered in my sig are either somthing that I have a vested interest in or, in the case of ISPrime, somebody who has earned the additional exposure by providding the abusolute best service possible.

You can pay me for the exposure from this thread and my list by sending some money to a charity...I don't need it.

thanks for updating man
so seriously no , I still hope that its just a good joke from you.I would never offer you some 100 dirty bucks for your sig -
man now I see that you are defenitely not an idiot - You know some charity which accepts CCs ?- its problem to send out money from here.Just give me a link to and I wll do it :thumbsup

media 04-25-2003 04:21 AM

I didnt see Cloud9Content up on that page....

the records required pursuant to 18 U.S.C. Û2257 and C.F.R. 75 are kept by the custodian of records, ben mizrahi, c/o the law offices of Jeffery Sklan, 18840 Ventura Blvd Suite 216, Tarzana, Ca 91356

link to 2257 Info can be found right on the front page..

Media

AaronM 04-25-2003 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sneaker
AaronM,

I believe this was an excellent attempt to bring light to 18US2257, but you obviously were not "backed by legal counsel" reason I know this is what attorney in thier right mind would ever advise you to POST a list like this. In my honest opinion you should remove it.

Anyways you should really remove the list or at least reword the list to cover your ass. IMHO

So...Sue me. :321GFY

I am not removing the list.

jact 04-25-2003 09:14 AM

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Originally posted by AaronM


So...Sue me. :321GFY

I am not removing the list.

You have such a way with people. :1orglaugh

AaronM 04-25-2003 09:14 AM

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Originally posted by MixPhoto.Sales
AaronM. How can you decide who is compliant and who is not. We provide our customers both with model's ID and Models Releases. You did not work with us, so you can not know if we are comliant or not.
Please change your information.

How can I decide? Because the law is black and white. You are NOT following the law. Fuck off.

LadyMischief 04-25-2003 09:15 AM

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Originally posted by media
I didnt see Cloud9Content up on that page....

the records required pursuant to 18 U.S.C. Û2257 and C.F.R. 75 are kept by the custodian of records, ben mizrahi, c/o the law offices of Jeffery Sklan, 18840 Ventura Blvd Suite 216, Tarzana, Ca 91356

link to 2257 Info can be found right on the front page..

Media

That would not make you compliant... the records must be kept at YOUR place of business.. and unless you are doing business from your lawyer's office, you are not in compliance.

AaronM 04-25-2003 09:23 AM

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Originally posted by media
I didnt see Cloud9Content up on that page....

the records required pursuant to 18 U.S.C. Û2257 and C.F.R. 75 are kept by the custodian of records, ben mizrahi, c/o the law offices of Jeffery Sklan, 18840 Ventura Blvd Suite 216, Tarzana, Ca 91356

link to 2257 Info can be found right on the front page..

Media

Does your ICQ work?

I have added your listing.

AaronM 04-25-2003 09:30 AM

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Originally posted by sneaker
....Since we shoot some of our material in countries where "hardcore" porn is forbidden and also travel around to other countries we don't have to comply with 18USC2257. But since we sell to pussy magazines and also U.S. based customers we included / maintained all documentation and records in accordance with the law as advised by our attorney which we have been doing for over 10 years (most of those years to pussy magazines). And in each "zip" file was the proper 18USC2257 text file with the name of the person who is tasked as the custodian of record and address to his place of business.
I too shoot outside of the US, on occasion, but my base of opperations is located in the US. Guess what that means? I am required to follow the US laws. You have listed your business addy as in the US as well. This means that you Do have to comply with 18USC2257.

Do yourself a favor and do not question me about this law.


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