I would really love to hear the updates more often! This is a serious issue ( more serious than some people give credit for I think) and you guys are doing a bang-up job! I just like to know that things are going your way!

Brujah: It is posted on anything that contains content that falls under 2257. We post it on the front page of the www.homegrownvideo.com site and on all our content pages there and in our leased content on the products found at http://www.homegrowncontent.com

Oh yeah... it is also on all our boxcovers too...

Hey J....The attorney is listed as the custodian of records. According to 2257, that is not legal. Let me know when the proper custodian of records is in place and I will happily update the listing.

Jeffery Sklan is an employee too, but I understand completeley. It's semantics as far as I'm concerned, but - if i'ts the law, it's the law!

Hey FAR-L!!! If anyone knows, I'm sure it's YOU! :winkwink:

Done! http://www.cloud9content.com/section2257.html[/B] ]http://www.cloud9content.com/section2257.html

Arron, please remove us from the non-compliant list ASAP! :)

Now that this is cleared up, everyone that hasn't already taken advantage - better get to steppin'!!!

*** ONLY 3 DAYS LEFT FOR THE DEAL OF THE YEAR!!! ***
LOL

See what you're missin' out on:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=125911

:thumbsup

Well, except for the typo that says "We're complaint" :1orglaugh

I didn't see it anywhere at Homegrowncontent.com, and thats the only reason I mentioned it. You know much more about it than I do :)

Did you guys setup a fund or anything that people can contribute to and help with this ?

Can't edit the above link, so here it is:

http://www.cloud9content.com/section2257.html

Notice that the list also shows providers who are not required to be compliant? If my intent was to show those who are breaking the law then why would I bother to list those who clearly are not breaking it? Also, why would I offer to update the listing once they were compliant instead of just saying "As of the date of this publication, the following companies appear to not be in compliance with 2257?"

This list was posted as a reality check for the industry. I was not even aware of how many people were not compliant until I started updating the 2257 pages of our sites. The shit I found alarmed me and I decided to make a post about it so that others can be more aware.

Sorry that some of you think there were other motives...Actually...No, I am not sorry. Why should I appologize for trying to help? Fuck em if they are too blinded by their anger to fix their oversight.

That probably means you actually WERE compliant before too, and no change was necessary.

Awesome content deal! :winkwink:

You got it J. It IS that simple.

Thanks, Brujah!!!

It's been a fun promotion!

16 -18 hr days, but it's worth it!

:Graucho

Brujah and Lady Mischief: We did set up a non-profit corporation and are fixing to do a fundraiser at the show in Florida.

Right now we have I think 14 big content providers and sponsor programs in the defense group. We get more each time a company realizes that this is for real and problem that is not going to go away.

I will get a detailed notice together for a complete update but give it a few days since i will have to run it by the attorneys. I will be sure to post it on GFY though.

Aaron,

it's done ... http://www.cloud9content.com/section2257.html


:)

Done deal. Thanks for not taking my intentions out of context J.

Far-L, hit me up on ICQ please.

13823758

Aaron, in all seriousness.. if I was wrong about your intentions for this list.. I apologize.

I didn't agree with the methods and the insinuations it seemed to make about some content providers I have known and others I've done major deals with in the past. I feel the same way about APIC. I don't agree with his methods, but maybe his intentions are in the right place.

AaronM: It is not adding you on that number, can you get me with 304457712?

Thanks to YOU, dude! :)

The last thing I want to do is NOT be in compliance

...and the fact of the matter, is that I've had 5 additional inquiries regarding our 95% INVENTORY BLOWOUT because of these posts in the last hour or so.

So, it's ALL good for business

:winkwink:

Fair enough. :glugglug

AaronM: I still haven't gotten your icq number to add... are you able to get through on my number?

Nope...Been trying though. I made a typo on mine.

Wish I'd started a thread this long :(

AarronM, can I go to your house and play Xbox?

You bringing some booze?

His lawyer's office still isn't his "place of business".

hey man , asking you once more - can you post some link to charity which accepts CCs?(if there is any)
I feel myself like owe you some bucks
I would pay local charity , but local charity is mostly about stealing money , not about helping anybody:mad:

:thumbsup :thumbsup 4 Aaron...

Alwayz lookin out for hiz fellow webmasterz.


Keep up all the good work bud.
:winkwink:

BTW: Enjoy that new system... :arcadefre

ok .... at the risk of looking dumb... I didn't think we needed to have that up on our site since we're a story site. If I am wrong someone hit me on the head and I'll up it. Hell I'll up it anyways...

but in the mean time.... if story content sites aren't legally required to be compliant, please remove wetwords dot com from the list :)

hey Aaron... how do I get ahold of ya? :winkwink:

Sorry about that. I did not check the sites for the type of content being offered, only for the 2257 info. You have been removed.

No problem darlin :) I just wanted to make sure! hehehe

We need more folks like you helping the betterment of our industry...


well done :thumbsup

edit: you could keep us up there lol and listed as compliant :winkwink:

take care y'all :thefinger

-----Original Message-----
From: emmanuelle
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 5:38 AM
To: AaronM
Subject: 2257 list

http://ampcontent.com/ContentProviders.htm



Hi ? We would like to be added to the above page. www.egophotography.com has been around about a year, but the site was being overhauled when the list was compiled. We are a Canadian company, and while not subject to 2257, we appreciate our customer?s need to be compliant with the laws of their country. Our custodian of records is linked from the main page of the site.



If you require any further info, please do not hesitate to contact me.

Thanks

Emma?

Interesting thread. Lots of input here. Again, thx Aaron, youve done a good job with this list. At the Score Group we continously buy content out there and we make it our job to make sure the content providers are fully complaint, before we get our hands on it... you just made our job a bit easier. my :2 cents: s

Aaron, let's say your content is owned by your business. If I read correctly (and not being an attorney, I'm probably wrong!) below ... why can't I hire an attorney as an employee and make them custodian of records, and keep the records in their office?


"(2) If the person to whom subsection (a) of this section applies is an organization the statement required by this subsection shall include the name, title, and business address of the individual employed by such organization responsible for maintaining the records required by this section. "

I ask this because one of the major content providers has in their 2257 statement their business name as custodian of records. I've since requested a name but haven't received it yet. If this is not in compliance with the law, I'd love them to be added to your list so they CAN comply quickly or risk losing customers.

But as I'm not primary producer, could I then -- theoretically -- hire that attorney?

Actually - the law is not that black and white. If it was, there wouldn't be this much controversy over it. Actually, from the posts I read of yours - our attorney does not feel that you are in compliance either....or at least the advice your attorney gave.

The question to me is NOT whether a provider has adequate 2257 information listed on their website. The reason for that is our attorney does NOT believe that listing the primary producer on your 2257 statement is going to cover your ass or make you 2257 compliant.

Our attorney has advised us that we must maintain adequate age verification documents from any content that we license. He is an adult site lawyer and has a lot of experience in the gay market specifically.

So, we are now in the process of contacting all of our content brokers and getting these records and updating our own 2257 compliance statement. Amazingly, it hasn't been a problem so far to get these documents....just a little time consuming.

So again, my :2 cents: is that it doesn't really matter to me when purchasing content if my supplier has a po box address listed or a physical address. Just give me the age verification documents. That is now a deal breaker...if you can't give me the documents, we can't do business. To me, that is what aaron's list should be guaging. It's not a matter of whether or not the content supplier's site is 2257 compliant, but whether your site is!

You should buy Splinter Cell for your Xbox!

The game is excellent! :thumbsup

I will keep that in mind. :glugglug

So does http://www.cd-media.net

adultlabs.com teen content 2257 compliant.

Stop Bumping 4 Year Old Threads !!!