MICKEY @ AWE .. I'm calling you out. You fucked me out of $11,321 and I have PLENTY OF PROOF - Page 5 - GoFuckYourself.com

uglyduckling · 11-19-2010, 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit

That's how it used to be in Adult as well. I had one major sponsor (of old) "bounce" a check when they changed banks. He wrote me a check from his personal account and sent it via Fed Ex and volunteered to pay any additional fees. He was very apologetic about the whole thing.

Back then being an affiliate was more of a partnership. These days it's often more one way with the sponsor looking for every way they can to possibly screw you over and minimize you. The whole attitude has changed and it shows. 95% of programs by old standards are operating a scam on affiliates. But that's the old standards. It's very different now what is considered acceptable... I'm thinking more and more of flat out refusing to send any traffic to anyone who doesn't live 100% up to my standards on what I see as an ideal affiliate. Perhaps that's better than settling and growing some crook's business for them.

It might mean staying out of some areas but so be it.

and that is exactly what everyone did, they promoted these mf thieves.........who have no respect for anyone but themselves a bunch of fucking gypsy thieves.

Tjeezers · 11-19-2010, 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CXA

Mickey:

Kindly answer a simple question:

Where is your main office located?

Dude stop it, you are pissed out of your own thread
learn a few basic rules of communication 1on1, and come back in a few years time when you really generate sales on the way you should.

This thread is useless, your complains are stupid, your argumentation is useless, your treats are a joke, your space to deal is without air, and your appearance is brought back to zero here by yourself.

So STFU and go do some work on your website or something.
You plaid the system, you tried to trick.. and now you think you can intimidate people. You had your 15 minutes of fame, it is done now

BEEEEEEEEEYYYYYY

uglyduckling · 11-19-2010, 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigluv

I'd like to hear a full explanation of how they credit sales and how their cookies work. Under what circumstances *exactly* do I refer a someone through my link and they make a purchase and I don't get paid?

I just signed up for them recently, and this doesn't make me feel good.

don't refer anyone to them, they are fucking thieves ....find more credible people to promote...

Ron2k1 · 11-19-2010, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by zorrak

There is no PSID field, so no affiliate cookie has been set.

So what's the purpose of setting these cookies anyway?

BradBreakfast · 11-19-2010, 01:15 AM

OMG has anybody else NOTICED?

MICKY has changed his whale image in his avatar!

It's pretty fucked up and embarrassing to get caught stealing a WHALE image on an adult industry forum. Then to change it so obviously without trying to come up with an offer for the artist to keep using the image in question, they probably just changed it to another stolen image or a super cheap stock image without trying to compensate or credit the previous artist.

This is the same people who can't even pay me my full payment after a custerfuck of a thread against them and after me trying to collect $291.00 USD dollars for TWO MONTHS... they "credited my AWE account $35 out off that $291.00, so if I DO EVER get "the wire" it's not even my full payment!!!! ..... unacceptable.

papill0n · 11-19-2010, 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradBreakfast

OMG has anybody else NOTICED?

MICKY has changed his whale image in his avatar!

It's pretty fucked up and embarrassing to get caught stealing a WHALE image on an adult industry forum. Then to change it so obviously without trying to come up with an offer for the artist to keep using the image in question, they probably just changed it to another stolen image or a super cheap stock image without trying to compensate or credit the previous artist.

This is the same people who can't even pay me my full payment after a custerfuck of a thread against them and after me trying to collect $291.00 USD dollars for TWO MONTHS... they "credited my AWE account $35 out off that $291.00, so if I DO EVER get "the wire" it's not even my full payment!!!! ..... unacceptable.

brad

you may or may not be gay and may or may not have consumed a massive amount of methlyamphetemine

Matyko · 11-19-2010, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by papill0n

brad

you may or may not be gay and may or may not have consumed a massive amount of methlyamphetemine

zorrak · 11-19-2010, 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uglyduckling

and that is exactly what everyone did, they promoted these mf thieves.........who have no respect for anyone but themselves a bunch of fucking gypsy thieves.

That's very nice of you. Good attitude there dude. Keep it going.

Zyber · 11-19-2010, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by MattO

Just now I cleared completely my cookies, then paid a visit to the Pirate Bay and waited for the pop-unders to hit.

One of the pop-unders was from LiveJasmin, which I closed immediately and without clicking anything but the close button.

I then checked my cookies and this is what I saw:

I hope you deal with them accordingly.

Good find, MattO.

That is the proof right there.

A cookie named wacctid with the value thepirbaypu. Expiry on December 02, 2010, which means this is a 13 or 14 day cookie.

wacctid = webmaster account id?

To me it looks like the webmaster cookie has been set automatically on that pop-under.

zorrak · 11-19-2010, 03:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zyber

Good find, MattO.

That is the proof right there.

A cookie named wacctid with the value thepirbaypu. Expiry on December 02, 2010, which means this is a 13 or 14 day cookie.

wacctid = webmaster account id?

To me it looks like the webmaster cookie has been set automatically on that pop-under.

This does NOT set an affiliate cookie. Test it by clicking on an actual ad without clearing these cookies and see for yourself what happens.
This is a different cookie for different purpose I imagine.

Zyber · 11-19-2010, 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Roald

I do think this is a valid question as I recall Mickey saying the cookie is only set when they click on the popunder.

Mickey?

Roald, you might want to look at the screenshot MattO posted later in this thread.

Automatic cookie stuffing happens without interaction from the user.

Ron2k1 · 11-19-2010, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by zorrak

This does NOT set an affiliate cookie. Test it by clicking on an actual ad without clearing these cookies and see for yourself what happens.
This is a different cookie for different purpose I imagine.

So what's the purpose of that cookie then? Why does that popup create 8 cookies?

Mickey_ · 11-19-2010, 04:37 AM

Again, as stated previously

The cookie does not contain a PSID, therefore no affiliate cookie is set.
Mentioned ads do not conflict with your marketing efforts.

Cookies can be placed for a variety of reasons, two examples:
- Cookies allow the advertiser to set rules in order to limit the number of times a popunder will appear for a unique user (for example, "popunder should only appear for a unique user once every 24 hours")
- Cookies may also be used to optimize user experience (serve online performers that are the most relevant,etc.)

Neil,
As I have stated earlier, you are free to contact me via email for the affiliate ID's to which the two users have been credited (or regarding any additional questions you may have).

BradBreakfast · 11-19-2010, 06:50 AM

This is how I feel:

Mickey_ · 11-19-2010, 08:12 AM

Brad,
Douglas will be in touch with you to discuss.

signupdamnit · 11-19-2010, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Mickey-AWE

Brad,
Douglas will be in touch with you to discuss.

If the guy really waited two months before calling you out like this you ought to pay double what you owe him.

CXA · 11-19-2010, 08:45 AM

Mickey:

I will make one last good faith attempt to email you with a polite and professional request to work this out with you.

Your prompt and responsive reply will be appreciated.

Hopefully we can resolve this once and for all.

Have a good weekend.

Neil

As a good faith gesture I have removed the "Anti-AWE" signature

Tjeezers · 11-19-2010, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CXA

As a good faith gesture I have removed the "Anti-AWE" signature

Now assuming you have read the postings in the 5 pages you have now, you should come to realize most of the webmasters here are aware of how you plaid the system.

If AWE would give in, than this means the bridge is down for everyone to walk the same road you did. This would be wrong, and can place a company like AWE in red numbers.

OK, let me sum it up

1 You sign up for AWE cause they offer you $222 per sale.
- till so fare nothing wrong, AWE did something to get your attention and that of thousands of others.

2 You realize you have a shitload of website users on your site
- Here it becomes tricky, your not an experienced AWE affiliate, so you go for a PPS deal. Even with knowing you sell your visitors ones for $222 , and not really believing your visitors would keep on spending. Yet, you claim to know your visitors like no one else, and you claim to AWE you bring in business, you should have used a REVS link then to remain something of your credibility in your statements towards AWE.

3 You offer your clients a special deal when they buy a 99 dollar package, cause PPS on AWE has a minimal spending limit before you get it, so you play safe and go for the $99.00 deal, also telling AWE how much business you are " going " to make for them. ( if that was really the case, you would have given your REVS links, knowing you have income for life on your so called loyal members ) ..Nevertheless, you say up straight to your clients you`ll offer them a bonus as reward for their first spending, the first spending that gives you a $222...
So yeah I agree, you did calculations, 222 minus 99, is 123 $ left.
Not saying you would give them a full refund on the 99, but you say you would give them a place on your VIP list, with whatever motivation you did this, i dont care

4 you let your members send you confirmations so you can check the sale, and you totally trust your members. ( this is something i would consider a RISKY statement, knowing the world is full with people who spread their version of the truth, not even keeping in mind someone would lie is just plain wrong )

5 You generate a consistent flow of PPS sales, and yet, AWE puts them in the Doubt Column and finally flags it, and your highly upset.

-------------------
So by summing this up, I kind of made clear that you plaid the system. You want to make us feel stupid cause most AWE webmasters inc me never changed the REVS to a PPS link?

Now what borders me most is the marketing bullshit you spread here, how you would made them a lot of business, while in fact you just Circle Jerked your visitors in a PPS system to make money of them. Seriously, doing it like you did is not making business, it is TAKING IT AWAY.

AWE might have a past of changing TOS in favor of them, and cutting of the sharp edges, but NEVER, and I say NEVER in my life I caught them red handed stealing or fucking up the payouts. They convert a shitload of payments every time again, when they upload their payment file, epass was just down during that period so much payments they processed in 1 move. ( sort of ) .. They do not steal sales. When you do a TEST sale, you see it goes OK. Just be sure that you tell them AFTER you did the test.
There is no where written you need to tell them BEFORE you do a test like people suggest in their comments. So, test whatever you want, you get your damn sale.

I know people who are longer then me on AWE, or started out on the same moment, we all share one opinion, AWE does not need to steal or take your sales away cause they need cash.

conclusion, play a PPS system and get your fingers burned. If you would have put your people on REVS and not see them as a leverage and introduce them as a sort of " loan " towards awe ( pay me the 222 and i make sure they keep spending ) you would have had no issues at all.

Revsharing is showing yourself you trust the people you send to a sponsor. Not doing that, and doing what you did now is just not how it works.

Now on a side note, you should be aware now that your website visitors can be used as some sort of a leverage towards your sponsors. But on this way?? This is just not how it is done.

You are free to add me on ICQ `104030 and ask me how to make commercial use of your visitors on a effective way without having the doubt if you are playing this game straight or not, respecting TOS`es and whatsoever. But then again, you can ask this to anyone on this board with experience and they will help you also without problems.

To AWE, I would have liked it very much if you keep Webmaster ID`s on your side and not send them to him. It can create a battle or accusations from left and right towards the ID that catches the sale. Not saying it is true, but for some reason I could have possible taken his sale cause his web visitors are site cheaters and they sniffed on my domains ;) And this would mean I can read soon on this forum how I must have done wrong, cause he believes so much in his own website visitors ( you can make this up from many statements ) that he seems to be willing to call the ID that won the sale a cheater.

Wizzo · 11-19-2010, 10:03 AM

Sidenote: One thing is for sure, this thread certainly makes use of the fonts and colors provided... carry-on!

TurboAngel · 11-19-2010, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wizzo

Sidenote: One thing is for sure, this thread certainly makes use of the fonts and colors provided... carry-on!

Sure does! LOL

CyberHustler · 11-19-2010, 10:10 AM

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CXA · 11-19-2010, 10:32 AM

Tjeezers

You are way off base with your "opinions" that are written as if they are "Facts".

It would be nice if you gave someone the slightest benefit of the doubt when you speak out on things that you have NO FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE

I just sent an email to Mickey that explained several things to him that may not be obvious.

The following statement appeared near the end of the letter. I think it applies to you too:

I think that you are so used to looking at the ugly side of things that you overlook simple. NON-FRAUDULENT possibilities.

For the time being that situation is once again PRIVATE between AWE and me. This is the way it should be. I hope it remains that way.

The ball is in Mickey's court.

Tjeezers · 11-19-2010, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CXA

Tjeezers

You are way off base with your "opinions" that are written as if they are "Facts".

It would be nice if you gave someone the slightest benefit of the doubt when you speak out on things that you have NO FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE

Me giving someone a benefit of the doubt?
LOL, you know this is the adult industry right. Fuck or GET FUCKED

U used, you publicly state this, your website visitors as a leverage to create a high payout when using the PPS system. While you try to make it look legit and solid, you only make me believe more that your creative way of thinking was just not good enough for AWE.

CXA · 11-19-2010, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tjeezers

Me giving someone a benefit of the doubt?
LOL, you know this is the adult industry right. Fuck or GET FUCKED

Hmmm. Interesting.

You have three links in your signature offering services to webmasters. Are you saying that everyone that signs up for any of them is going to "GET FUCKED"?

Just wondering

JFK · 11-19-2010, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CXA

Tjeezers

You are way off base with your "opinions" that are written as if they are "Facts".

It would be nice if you gave someone the slightest benefit of the doubt when you speak out on things that you have NO FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE

I just sent an email to Mickey that explained several things to him that may not be obvious.

The following statement appeared near the end of the letter. I think it applies to you too:

I think that you are so used to looking at the ugly side of things that you overlook simple. NON-FRAUDULENT possibilities.

For the time being that situation is once again PRIVATE between AWE and me. This is the way it should be. I hope it remains that way.

The ball is in Mickey's court.

You're just too fucking funny, having created a 5 page drama thread, now this ?

"For the time being that situation is once again PRIVATE between AWE and me. This is the way it should be. I hope it remains that way."

CXA · 11-19-2010, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK

You're just too fucking funny, having created a 5 page drama thread, now this ?

"For the time being that situation is once again PRIVATE between AWE and me. This is the way it should be. I hope it remains that way."

I wanted it private all along .. read my first post.

Now read Mickeys last remarks to me.

will76 · 11-19-2010, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradBreakfast

OMG has anybody else NOTICED?

MICKY has changed his whale image in his avatar!

It's pretty fucked up and embarrassing to get caught stealing a WHALE image on an adult industry forum. Then to change it so obviously without trying to come up with an offer for the artist to keep using the image in question, they probably just changed it to another stolen image or a super cheap stock image without trying to compensate or credit the previous artist.

This is the same people who can't even pay me my full payment after a custerfuck of a thread against them and after me trying to collect $291.00 USD dollars for TWO MONTHS... they "credited my AWE account $35 out off that $291.00, so if I DO EVER get "the wire" it's not even my full payment!!!! ..... unacceptable.

i would say them changing it was an admission of guilt. I'd be pissed to find out if one of my design guys or someone else in my company did this. It would piss me off to put me in this position. However, it is often lack of oversight or a company philosophy that opens the door for this type of thing to happen. It's a whale picture, to most people here that's not a big deal or they don't care. But it just shows their mentality that they obviously don't care about people's content being stolen, which is also evident by all of the crappy sites full of stolen content they are advertised on.

piece of shit company all the way around imo, from their tos changes, 14 day cookies and all the other shit they have pulled.

Agent 488 · 11-19-2010, 11:46 AM

CXA · 11-19-2010, 11:47 AM

Here are some FACTS about me and my site.

Draw your own OPINIONS

Independentgirls.com

Launched in 1999

Three Month Alexa Ranking Range: 70,000 - 90,000
Not bad considering my site attracts primarily a FLORIDA audience

Ranked #2 on GOOGLE for the word: ESCORTS (Your results may vary depending on location)

Referenced numerous times on: CNBC, FOX, & MSNBC

I have accepted VISA / MC payments for 10 years. First with PayPal and later with a traditional Merchant bank. I have a VIRTUALLY ZERO CHARGE-BACK RATE:
The few CB's I've had were always mistaken identity where the guy didn't recognize the corporate name. In all of those cases the CB was reversed or the client repurchased the Membership

My site has a ZERO TOLERANCE for scammers and spammers. Much of the success of the site is due to the high ethical standards we maintain. For example: All models must be the actual girl. No bait and switch. Their pictures must be reasonably recent and accurate. The advertisers must maintain certain standards of ethical conduct.

I have roughly 1,000 PAID MEMBERS on my site.

The Average Member has been with me for over THREE YEARS.

I have never been sued

I have never been arrested

I have a "Safe Driver" rating on my drivers license.

I have lived in the same town for 30 years.

Ron Bennett · 11-19-2010, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tjeezers

conclusion, play a PPS system and get your fingers burned. If you would have put your people on REVS and not see them as a leverage and introduce them as a sort of " loan " towards awe ( pay me the 222 and i make sure they keep spending ) you would have had no issues at all.

True, but it goes both ways ... AWE $222 PPS is an invitation for trouble.

Sounds as if you've had great success with AWE, but their $222 PPS promo should concern revshare affiliates too ... often when programs have to resort to such aggressive tactics, it's often a sign they're desperate, for whatever reason (perhaps AWE is doing fine and just want to beat last years numbers, who knows) ...

Imho, if AWE truly sought long-term webmasters / quality traffic, why don't they tout the benefits of revshare more instead ... something to ponder - revsharers don't get too comfortable ... the end could be much closer than you think - it's happened so many times with seemingly once solid programs that pushed too hard.

Ron

Agent 488 · 11-19-2010, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CXA

I have a "Safe Driver" rating on my drivers license.

CXA · 11-19-2010, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488

Glad u liked it

Wizzo · 11-19-2010, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CXA

Here are some FACTS about me and my site.

Independentgirls.com

Launched in 1999

Three Month Alexa Ranking Range: 70,000 - 90,000
Not bad considering my site attracts primarily a FLORIDA audience

Ranked #2 on GOOGLE for the word: ESCORTS (Your results may vary depending on location)

I've bought ad spots on here and will say that site's traffic ROCKS! Conversions are awesome!

CXA · 11-19-2010, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Bennett

True, but it goes both ways ... AWE $222 PPS is an invitation for trouble.

Sounds as if you've had great success with AWE, but their $222 PPS promo should concern revshare affiliates too ... often when programs have to resort to such aggressive tactics, it's often a sign they're desperate, for whatever reason (perhaps AWE is doing fine and just want to beat last years numbers, who knows) ...

Imho, if AWE truly sought long-term webmasters / quality traffic, why don't they tout the benefits of revshare more instead ... something to ponder - revsharers don't get too comfortable ... the end could be much closer than you think - it's happened so many times with seemingly once solid programs that pushed too hard.

Ron

Agreed.

AWE pushed the PPS big time. I wanted to do a white-label but they needed to "prove myself" first. They were quick to point out that the $222 wasn't available for WL sites.

They kept extending it month after month. I'm new at being an affiliate. They were recommending the $222 everywhere I looked. Who was I to argue with them?

Tjeezers · 11-19-2010, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Bennett

Imho, if AWE truly sought long-term webmasters / quality traffic, why don't they tout the benefits of revshare more instead ... something to ponder - revsharers don't get too comfortable ... the end could be much closer than you think - it's happened so many times with seemingly once solid programs that pushed too hard.

Ron

Ron, every word you just said, I have to agree with you.
I share your point for many many years. but crusading on AWE board for it, has brought me nothing but frustrations.

They did however do a little but more of revsharing promo. Perhaps they see that the 222 dollars also works against them, they get fraude sales more and more, and I think this will encourage them to just point their arrows on the long time players again, I for ones will be happy when they do.

Nevertheless, i cant help to think AWE has a TGP way of thinking.

Tjeezers · 11-19-2010, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CXA

Hmmm. Interesting.

You have three links in your signature offering services to webmasters. Are you saying that everyone that signs up for any of them is going to "GET FUCKED"?

Just wondering

as long I don't get fucked, they can fuck around on my domain

and fyi, on my network I informed my users that PPS links of AWE are not stimulating my Cookie users at all. I did this to make sure people dont start a Livejasmin Fight on my domain.

and be sure, i dont fight your personality or your history, never heard of you, so no need to post a certificate of good behavior.

Did you not think of the idea to feedback with AWE first about your plan? You did defended yourself a lot by making statements that you bring in business etc etc etc... You could have prevented defending yourself if you made with AWE a conversation first how you are planning to bring them business. They could have said up front that they agree or not.

If you do PPS, then you sell your surfers for 1 time. If you are capable of doing such a thing, then it is more then advisable to discus with AWE before you do anything.

Deputy Chief Command · 11-19-2010, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CXA

Here are some FACTS about me

Draw your own OPINIONS

I have never been sued

I have never been arrested

I have a "Safe Driver" rating on my drivers license.

I have lived in the same town for 30 years.

you forgot some

Quote:

Originally Posted by CXA

I love banging escorts

I get HUGE discounts because of the extra clients I help the girls get

I am not a PIMP

I go to church every sunday

stocktrader23 · 11-19-2010, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Bennett

Imho, if AWE truly sought long-term webmasters / quality traffic, why don't they tout the benefits of revshare more instead ... something to ponder - revsharers don't get too comfortable ... the end could be much closer than you think - it's happened so many times with seemingly once solid programs that pushed too hard.

Ron

I don't know what you mean by pushed to hard, you talk as if they will go out of business?

The reason cam programs push PPS is because it makes them a shitload more money. The average cam customer spends a LOT and those guys that spend $20,000 per month they do not want on revshare deals.

BradBreakfast · 11-19-2010, 04:24 PM

Another day passes.... still don't have my money

AmeliaG · 11-19-2010, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Bennett

True, but it goes both ways ... AWE $222 PPS is an invitation for trouble.

Sounds as if you've had great success with AWE, but their $222 PPS promo should concern revshare affiliates too ... often when programs have to resort to such aggressive tactics, it's often a sign they're desperate, for whatever reason (perhaps AWE is doing fine and just want to beat last years numbers, who knows) ...

Imho, if AWE truly sought long-term webmasters / quality traffic, why don't they tout the benefits of revshare more instead ... something to ponder - revsharers don't get too comfortable ... the end could be much closer than you think - it's happened so many times with seemingly once solid programs that pushed too hard.

Ron

Amen to this

O MARINA · 11-19-2010, 04:26 PM

5 pages? cliff notes?

Far-L · 11-19-2010, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O MARINA

5 pages? cliff notes?

AWE being called out on questionable business practices, mix of for and against opinions in response, answers raise more questions, just another day of doing business as usual...

Tjeezers · 11-19-2010, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradBreakfast

Another day passes.... still don't have my money

Yeah thanks for sharing this ( 1001 times on every awe thread possible )
would you care to Quote me and say it again please

Tjeezers · 11-19-2010, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O MARINA

5 pages? cliff notes?

Why you hit the post button if you dont even read the thread.
5 pages and this is to much for you already????

O MARINA · 11-19-2010, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tjeezers

Why you hit the post button if you dont even read the thread.
5 pages and this is to much for you already????

because I wanted to know what Far-L thought

Machete_ · 11-19-2010, 05:07 PM

i never understood how their cookie system works. and no one could clearly explain it either. 14 days, or whatever.

but i can't shake the feeling that it's some kind of bullshit.

CXA · 11-19-2010, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tjeezers

Did you not think of the idea to feedback with AWE first about your plan? You did defended yourself a lot by making statements that you bring in business etc etc etc... You could have prevented defending yourself if you made with AWE a conversation first how you are planning to bring them business. They could have said up front that they agree or not.

Did you miss this from page one?

Quote:

BTW: I was in touch with Douglas on a regular basis. He knew every step along the way that my site was different from other affiliates.

topsiteking · 11-19-2010, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Machete_

after reading this thread, i'm pulling links now

Quote:

Originally Posted by digitaldivas

I am pulling links now as well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Far-L

AWE being called out on questionable business practices, mix of for and against opinions in response, answers raise more questions, just another day of doing business as usual...

Sounds about right...

Agent 488 · 11-19-2010, 09:01 PM

i think this may have been a big misunderstanding. 50% of links back up.

BradBreakfast · 11-20-2010, 12:08 AM

Agent 488 - Are you an "Agent" of AWE? This is not a misunderstanding, AWE got caught jacking affiliates around and now it's time to pay the piper.

They've brushed me and others off for TWO MONTHS and only started paying us DUE TO THIS THREAD, if it had not been for this thread we would STILL be being ignored.

They say my money is in motion, and have been saying that since early September: Yet another weekend rolls with no money received.

Please stop trying to brown nose to these slimy AWE reps and stop spreading misinformation about this being a "misunderstanding" because it's NOT, nor are YOU involved. I never asked you to pull your links.

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BradBreakfast Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 415	OMG has anybody else NOTICED? MICKY has changed his whale image in his avatar! It's pretty fucked up and embarrassing to get caught stealing a WHALE image on an adult industry forum. Then to change it so obviously without trying to come up with an offer for the artist to keep using the image in question, they probably just changed it to another stolen image or a super cheap stock image without trying to compensate or credit the previous artist. This is the same people who can't even pay me my full payment after a custerfuck of a thread against them and after me trying to collect $291.00 USD dollars for TWO MONTHS... they "credited my AWE account $35 out off that $291.00, so if I DO EVER get "the wire" it's not even my full payment!!!! ..... unacceptable. Last edited by BradBreakfast; 11-19-2010 at 01:25 AM..

11-19-2010, 04:37 AM	#213
Mickey_ Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Worldwide Posts: 4,238	Again, as stated previously The cookie does not contain a PSID, therefore no affiliate cookie is set. Mentioned ads do not conflict with your marketing efforts. Cookies can be placed for a variety of reasons, two examples: - Cookies allow the advertiser to set rules in order to limit the number of times a popunder will appear for a unique user (for example, "popunder should only appear for a unique user once every 24 hours") - Cookies may also be used to optimize user experience (serve online performers that are the most relevant,etc.) Neil, As I have stated earlier, you are free to contact me via email for the affiliate ID's to which the two users have been credited (or regarding any additional questions you may have). __________________ LifeSelector Affiliates - Make money today promoting the online porn of tomorrow. mb [at] lifeselector.com

11-19-2010, 08:12 AM	#215
Mickey_ Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Worldwide Posts: 4,238	Brad, Douglas will be in touch with you to discuss. __________________ LifeSelector Affiliates - Make money today promoting the online porn of tomorrow. mb [at] lifeselector.com

11-19-2010, 08:45 AM	#217
CXA Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: South Florida Posts: 211	Mickey: I will make one last good faith attempt to email you with a polite and professional request to work this out with you. Your prompt and responsive reply will be appreciated. Hopefully we can resolve this once and for all. Have a good weekend. Neil As a good faith gesture I have removed the "Anti-AWE" signature __________________ Don't complain ... compete [email protected] Last edited by CXA; 11-19-2010 at 08:56 AM..

11-19-2010, 10:03 AM	#219
Wizzo 2011 GFY Hall of Fame! Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Back in Texas! Posts: 15,224	Sidenote: One thing is for sure, this thread certainly makes use of the fonts and colors provided... carry-on! __________________ Looking for Opportunity!

11-19-2010, 06:50 AM	#214
BradBreakfast Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 415	This is how I feel:

11-19-2010, 10:10 AM	#221
CyberHustler So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 26,062	This post has been brought to you by SpaCash

11-19-2010, 10:32 AM	#222
CXA Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: South Florida Posts: 211	Tjeezers You are way off base with your "opinions" that are written as if they are "Facts". It would be nice if you gave someone the slightest benefit of the doubt when you speak out on things that you have NO FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE I just sent an email to Mickey that explained several things to him that may not be obvious. The following statement appeared near the end of the letter. I think it applies to you too: I think that you are so used to looking at the ugly side of things that you overlook simple. NON-FRAUDULENT possibilities. For the time being that situation is once again PRIVATE between AWE and me. This is the way it should be. I hope it remains that way. The ball is in Mickey's court. __________________ Don't complain ... compete [email protected]

11-19-2010, 11:46 AM	#228
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511

11-19-2010, 11:47 AM	#229
CXA Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: South Florida Posts: 211	Here are some FACTS about me and my site. Draw your own OPINIONS Independentgirls.com Launched in 1999 Three Month Alexa Ranking Range: 70,000 - 90,000 Not bad considering my site attracts primarily a FLORIDA audience Ranked #2 on GOOGLE for the word: ESCORTS (Your results may vary depending on location) Referenced numerous times on: CNBC, FOX, & MSNBC I have accepted VISA / MC payments for 10 years. First with PayPal and later with a traditional Merchant bank. I have a VIRTUALLY ZERO CHARGE-BACK RATE: The few CB's I've had were always mistaken identity where the guy didn't recognize the corporate name. In all of those cases the CB was reversed or the client repurchased the Membership My site has a ZERO TOLERANCE for scammers and spammers. Much of the success of the site is due to the high ethical standards we maintain. For example: All models must be the actual girl. No bait and switch. Their pictures must be reasonably recent and accurate. The advertisers must maintain certain standards of ethical conduct. I have roughly 1,000 PAID MEMBERS on my site. The Average Member has been with me for over THREE YEARS. I have never been sued I have never been arrested I have a "Safe Driver" rating on my drivers license. I have lived in the same town for 30 years. __________________ Don't complain ... compete [email protected] Last edited by CXA; 11-19-2010 at 11:54 AM..

11-19-2010, 04:24 PM	#239
BradBreakfast Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 415	Another day passes.... still don't have my money

11-19-2010, 04:26 PM	#241
O MARINA I'm clockin' ya, Versace shade watchin' ya Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: internet Posts: 13,795	5 pages? cliff notes?

11-19-2010, 05:07 PM	#246
Machete_ WINNING! Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 14,579	i never understood how their cookie system works. and no one could clearly explain it either. 14 days, or whatever. but i can't shake the feeling that it's some kind of bullshit.

11-19-2010, 09:01 PM	#249
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	i think this may have been a big misunderstanding. 50% of links back up.

11-20-2010, 12:08 AM	#250
BradBreakfast Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 415	Agent 488 - Are you an "Agent" of AWE? This is not a misunderstanding, AWE got caught jacking affiliates around and now it's time to pay the piper. They've brushed me and others off for TWO MONTHS and only started paying us DUE TO THIS THREAD, if it had not been for this thread we would STILL be being ignored. They say my money is in motion, and have been saying that since early September: Yet another weekend rolls with no money received. Please stop trying to brown nose to these slimy AWE reps and stop spreading misinformation about this being a "misunderstanding" because it's NOT, nor are YOU involved. I never asked you to pull your links. Last edited by BradBreakfast; 11-20-2010 at 12:23 AM..