MICKEY @ AWE .. I'm calling you out. You fucked me out of $11,321 and I have PLENTY OF PROOF - Page 3 - GoFuckYourself.com

- LOL - · 11-18-2010, 04:56 AM

AWempire are also thieves.

They stole the whale image for their banner from my friend and edited out his copyright:

http://www.francoisgohier.com/galler...0macrocephalus

seeandsee · 11-18-2010, 04:59 AM

early morning drama for me

gimme-website · 11-18-2010, 05:16 AM

Sounds like the OP is offering "compensated traffic"

xsabn · 11-18-2010, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Fucksakes

I have tested my account many times and always sales were given, just my personal experience thou.

i have tested them many ways.. always ok

ottopottomouse · 11-18-2010, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

How sure are you that your members/surfers have never been to LJ? They do buy popunder ads to every tube site you can think of. While your surfers might not have gone to LJ directly, isn't it possible a cookie was placed from those popunders when your surfers went to a tube site?
WG

+1

LJ are all over the place and hard to avoid.

ottopottomouse · 11-18-2010, 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tjeezers

the truth will be somewhere in the middle, again....

He actually says in 1st post

When I joined AWE, they were running their $222 PPS

So from my understanding you actually say you joined AWE for this $222 contest and used your network of members on your own site as cows to cash 222 dollars and in return give your members a place on a VIP and pay back some discount to them. All in all, you still would be able to pay back the whole $99 dollar package back if you would cash in $222 a sale.

Sounds like a creative use of milking the system, not sure if you discussed this with AWE before you actually started to do it like this. So perhaps they dont like to see a creative abuse like this on their PPS, honestly their rules and you cant do jack shit.

The way how you did this and how you describe this makes me think there is a lot more behind this then you want to make us believe.

But will see how it plays out here, if it ever / uberhaupt gets plaid out.

Sound very feasible actually and there is always two sides to everything (sometimes 3)

signupdamnit · 11-18-2010, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Machete_

after reading this thread, i'm pulling links now

I don't feel that I can trust them either. It's not only this but other things as well.

- In this thread if you do the math this person appears to have 1:60,000 ratios with them. Unless he means 2k impressions per day? http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=997807

- I've read a post from an old rep which basically advanced the idea that affiliates don't deserve rebills anyway, especially not ones who pulled links long ago. Yes, it was in the time of the 14 day cookie. It gave me the impression that there was a culture of disrespect towards affiliates within the company.

- When using their promo materials every X pageviews bring up an advertisement with some lady on it saying "Aren't you the lucky one". My affiliate link is nowhere to be found when this occurs. This isn't a special custom tool either. It's a regular iframe. The problem is well documented elsewhere. They seem to claim it is a technical issue but that seems very convenient to me. This problem is many years old. http://board.awempire.com/showthread.php?t=11179

- https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/594765-awempire-enlighten-please.html The old 14 day cookie was REALLY. BAD. Especially combined with calling it "revshare" and basically playing off the ignorance of webmasters who will assume revshare means the industry standard -- "revshare for life".

- This incident. There are multiple issues but one thing is clear. Unless the OP is flat out lying or a total moron then there is something with either the way that program is setup or the tracking which means affiliates may not be getting all the sales they think they are getting. I see potential technical issues to explain that lack of credit to him, but that still does not nullify the end effect itself which is not what I want to see.

I get that they are a big GFY advertiser but I call it as I see it. I've made up my mind anyway.

BradBreakfast · 11-18-2010, 06:27 AM

@signupdamnit - Culture of disrespect at AWE? I noticed that too, they have tried to intimate that this is all my fault. Especially with the Wire "error". They sent me a PDF file of the "wire confirmation" and they didn't include most of the information they asked for inside their console, including my receiving bank name and address in the "Beneficiary" field. They said they sent the wire with "the information THAT I GAVE THEM in the console" or something to that effect, but their "confirmation" PDF shows they didn't! They usually take 24-48 hours to reply to any email I send, even though it's usually daylight working hours in Hungary when I send them. They are stalling and hoping I'll go away... that's all they're doing.

Overall I feel really "brushed off" by their support. Honestly, it makes me feel more bad then upset.

AWE: IF I DON'T GET PAID WILL NEVER FORGET nor will I let anybody else forget.

2intense · 11-18-2010, 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xsabn

i have tested them many ways.. always ok

STFU

B.Barnato · 11-18-2010, 06:34 AM

this can maybe go in both direction depends of how much the starter leaves out in story

BradBreakfast · 11-18-2010, 06:36 AM

A wire was promised this week from AWE-Brad FIVE DAYS AGO and still has not arrived as of 5:35 am PST 11-18-2010.

Mickey_ · 11-18-2010, 06:40 AM

Neil,

In regards to your accusations:

#1 - "20 Sales were never credited to me"

So far you have only provided me with two exact sales for analysis, both of which were credited to another affiliate as the customers, at the time of purchase, had the cookies (or other tracking identifier) of those other two accounts. One of them was a media buy account, the other, a regular AWE affiliate. Feel free to contact me privately and I will share the id of the affiliate the sales were credited to. I will not, however, share any additional personal information about our affiliates.

In regards to your due diligence, as I pointed out to you on our board, you were asking your members an irrelevant question:

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Had you visited LIVEJASMIN or any other WEBCAM sites within the past month?

As an example, if your members purchased credits on our sites 6 months ago, they would no longer be considered unique, new customers and you would not receive $222 PPS as a commission after their purchase.

#2 - "30 sales were misteriously deemed "fraudulent" six weeks later..."

As stated in my reply to you on our board (and the same reply was sent to you from our support staff as well), thorough risk and fraud analysis flagged the sales you mention as fraudulent. Commissions for these fraudulent sales were deducted and you have been paid for all legitimate sales referred. Details of how sales are flagged as fraudulent cannot be given out for obvious reasons (to retain the effectiveness of our risk management processes)

As you can imagine, we, like any other company, are not be amused by an attempt to be blackmailed, unfortunately, 'cutting a deal with us in order to keep this private' is not an option.

In reference to the 'wise crack'. The wise crack in question was not "my wise crack and only response", it was something you posted on our forum

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It's tough enough to get sales these days. If you're gonna have an affiliate program in the first place, I think it's pretty slimy for AWE to be competing against your own "salespeople" the way you do.

This just doesn't pass the "sniff test".

and to reply to the below question -

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If my 31 sales were "fraudulent" then surely I am a total piece of shit affiliate. Why would AWE .. or ANY company for that matter .. keep an affiliate on-board with a proven record of "fraud"?

Our decision to terminate or keep an account active is on a case-by-case basis and depends on many factors. In your case, terminating your affiliate account was not neccessary as commissions for fraudulent sales have been deducted and any legitimate sales were paid out.

If you have any additional questions, feel free to contact me or one of our staff members.

Agent 488 · 11-18-2010, 06:47 AM

great response by awe. i think we can safely wrap up this fiasco and move on.

BradBreakfast · 11-18-2010, 06:48 AM

Did that seem a little dry and vague to anybody else? Especially since he conveniently didn't mention all the MISSED, STALLED, and LATE PAYMENT complaints!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mickey-AWE

Neil,

In regards to your accusations:

#1 - "20 Sales were never credited to me"

So far you have only provided me with two exact sales for analysis, both of which were credited to another affiliate as the customers, at the time of purchase, had the cookies (or other tracking identifier) of those other two accounts. One of them was a media buy account, the other, a regular AWE affiliate. Feel free to contact me privately and I will share the id of the affiliate the sales were credited to. I will not, however, share any additional personal information about our affiliates.

In regards to your due diligence, as I pointed out to you on our board, you were asking your members an irrelevant question:

As an example, if your members purchased credits on our sites 6 months ago, they would no longer be considered unique, new customers and you would not receive $222 PPS as a commission after their purchase.

#2 - "30 sales were misteriously deemed "fraudulent" six weeks later..."

As stated in my reply to you on our board (and the same reply was sent to you from our support staff as well), thorough risk and fraud analysis flagged the sales you mention as fraudulent. Commissions for these fraudulent sales were deducted and you have been paid for all legitimate sales referred. Details of how sales are flagged as fraudulent cannot be given out for obvious reasons (to retain the effectiveness of our risk management processes)

As you can imagine, we, like any other company, are not be amused by an attempt to be blackmailed, unfortunately, 'cutting a deal with us in order to keep this private' is not an option.

In reference to the 'wise crack'. The wise crack in question was not "my wise crack and only response", it was something you posted on our forum

and to reply to the below question -

Our decision to terminate or keep an account active is on a case-by-case basis and depends on many factors. In your case, terminating your affiliate account was not neccessary as commissions for fraudulent sales have been deducted and any legitimate sales were paid out.

If you have any additional questions, feel free to contact me or one of our staff members.

BradBreakfast · 11-18-2010, 06:49 AM

@Agent 488 - Wrap it up? HELL THE FUCK No.... WHERE IS MY AND OTHERS PAYMENTS?

Randy West · 11-18-2010, 06:49 AM

In defense of AWE, I recently contacted them and told them I was going to stop promoting them. I had an $82 balance, not yet to meet the payout thresh hold of $100.

I created a ticket and asked to be paid out what was owed, and they said no problem. Since, the check has been delivered, cashed, cleared and spent. So no ill will towards them in my book

Agent 488 · 11-18-2010, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by BradBreakfast

@Agent 488 - Wrap it up? HELL THE FUCK No.... WHERE IS MY AND OTHERS PAYMENTS?

in the mail.

livegirlsonbed · 11-18-2010, 06:54 AM

Hi!

If you dont was credited with sales this may be an issue regarding the cookie.

The awempire.com revshare set a cookie with a lifetime of 14 days. If you want to keep your members lifetime you have to turn on Lifetime revshare option from your account.

To be honesti promote awempire starting with 2006, never spoken with my members but i'm happy with my sales there.

Regarding Chargebacks, you can see its in your stats also after 6 months from the time when the sale was made. Its exist and are a problem for all credit card procesors. You can block the poor countries and you will not see so many CBs.

BradBreakfast · 11-18-2010, 07:01 AM

They fucked up my VERY FIRST PAYMENT from them, and my buddies Second Payment... HE did receive his first payment but not any subsequent payment(s).

That's not my only issue with them. They could have fixed that easy by not INSULTING us by telling us there was a major problem with US webmaster bound checks then telling us they're not going to pay us until we submit another "ticket" and authorize a $35 check cancellation fee. I can understand if the problem was say... the check was stolen from an insecure mailbox but it was not! It was "lost" on THEIR END. Like I previously said, NOT A SINGLE CHECK of mine has been lost by the United States Postal Service. Additionally, they're acting like it's not a real high priority of theirs to make this right. $291 or $20,000 ... a missed payment then taking MONTHS to fix it is a fucked up thing to do to an affiliate, especially in this economy. Last year I would of brushed this off and stopped promoting them but I really needed that payment, as I had planned my finances on receiving the first check, I was sure I would receive it because they SEEMED like a reputable company. BUT THEY ARE NOT. Why would anybody keep promoting them if they can't even pay out $291 via a check properly?

The guy who have said "lets move on" was WAYYYYY to quick to come on and say that. The OP's problem is not the only problem affiliates are having with AWEmpire Rep's and company as a whole:

THEY ARE MISSING PAYMENTS AND NOT ACTING QUICK ENOUGH TO FIX IT! ... IT'S BEEN TWO MONTHS FOR ME.......

BradBreakfast · 11-18-2010, 07:07 AM

"micky" - where is my wire? Is my money in motion?

Bryan G · 11-18-2010, 07:32 AM

wheres fatfoo for his official comment

BradBreakfast · 11-18-2010, 07:43 AM

@Bryan G - Guess they must not of paid him either

Agent 488 · 11-18-2010, 07:46 AM

guess that`s it. no further reply from either party.

so, how is the weather where you are? cold here.

kazbalah · 11-18-2010, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

How sure are you that your members/surfers have never been to LJ? They do buy popunder ads to every tube site you can think of. While your surfers might not have gone to LJ directly, isn't it possible a cookie was placed from those popunders when your surfers went to a tube site?
WG

That was going to be my point - but for a different reason.

AWE is run by a bunch of dodgey russians, who have pop ups running on every illegal tube site on the net.

Now its the #1 webcam site - Why? Becuase its being popped so much.

And my point here is - Nearly every mother fucker in town is being cookied by them - so your chances of making sales drop - unless you got MASS traffic.

Basicly if you run some small webcam site only promoting AWE - you only make a sale if that surfer HAS NOT been to a tube site in the last month.

I know becuase i sent AWE 20k + hits of webcam traffic and couldnt even make 1 sale.

So thats the kinda company your dealing with their.

CXA · 11-18-2010, 07:59 AM

Mickey,

You really have all the bases covered. You have your neat little system set up in such a way that your AFFILIATE VICTIMS have no recourse and basically have to take your word for things. You won't say which webmaster got credit so there's no way to verify this with the customer. How convenient?

I think the reason for this "veil of secrecy" is because AWE is usually the webmaster getting credit for these sales.

WHY DO YOU ASK WEBMASTERS TO DO A TEST? You have it set up so you can't fail because you won't provide the information necessary for an affiliate to prove that AWE skims sales.

With respect to the UNCREDITED sales you are now saying that all these 20 people were LJ customers in the past. WHAT A CROCK OF SHIT. Most of my customers had never heard of LJ much less been a customer.

Regarding the "fraudulent" sales, EVERY ONE of the 104 sales I got for LJ were acquired the same way from the same promotional materials on my site. There were ZERO charge-backs (except for one guy who got double billed).

Why won't you provide me with a list of names of the 30 "bad apples" so I can do my own "risk analysis"? You have everything set up so conveniently. You claim "secrecy reasons" as you FUCK YOUR AFFILIATES UP THE ASS.

You have built a program based on mistrust and back-stabbing. In all fairness, I'm sure that plenty of affiliates don't play by the rules. But judging from the dozens of affiliates that have posted negative comments about AWE on GFY, it sure looks like there are some serious fundamental issues with your program.

Enjoy all the money you make. Just know that scamming the very people that help you make that money has given AWE Totally Toxic Karma.

This is going to be a very expensive $11K for AWE. As I said in my last email to you: Normally this kind of thing is "just business" ... in this case you have made it very personal.

My "crusade" is less than 24 hours old and you've already lost three affiliates. I'm not going away. The site listed in my signature will be a clearinghouse for "all things AWE". All your scams, tricks, techniques, BS policies and lies will be easily searched & sorted. My story will be one of many on the site for all to see.

Mickey, do us all a favor: STFU with remarks like this:

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If you have any additional questions, feel free to contact me or one of our staff members.

To the uninitiated, you sound like the "concerned, accessible professional" To people that have dealt with you you sound like a disingenuous piece of shit.

I have emailed, PMed and ICQed you MANY TIMES with no response. The only time you have responded is when I submitted a ticket or posted on your board or GFY.

I'm really pissed at myself for not checking into AWE's reputation before I joined up with you. Live & learn

HomerSimpson · 11-18-2010, 08:18 AM

neverending dramas with AWE...

kazbalah · 11-18-2010, 08:26 AM

Yea dont worry brad, funds are in motion :P

kazbalah · 11-18-2010, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CXA

Here is a post I made on AWE last week:

http://board.awempire.com/showthread.php?t=11148

DISTURBING REVELATION: AWE is our biggest competitor ... Say it ain't so

For 11 years I have run a tight-knit adult social network site. Last June I signed up with AWE / LJ after meeting Douglas at the XBIZ show in Las Vegas. LJ would be a great 'fit'

Pretty soon after I started promoting AWE I started having issues with my sales getting credited to other webmasters.

I knew this was the case because my Members -- many of whom have been with me for more than five years -- were encouraged to try LiveJasmin and email me to be included on my WebCam VIP list.

When I wrote to support to inquire why two of these sales were not showing up on my commission list I was told that they were credited to another webmaster and no other information was available. Well, that sucked.

I then wrote to the two guys and asked them if they had been to LJ recently. Neither one of them had ever been to LJ. One guy had gone to CAM4.com, but he clears his cookies / temp files / cache on a daily basis

Fast forward to yesterday.

I was chatting on ICQ with Douglas and I asked him if someone goes to a site like PornHub.com and a LiveJasmin popup / popunder appears out of nowhere, would that set a cookie?

Imagine my surprise when he said "yes"

Keep in mind that LJ cookies are NON-REWRITABLE. So, if someone gets a LJ cookie from PAID ADVERTISING on a NON-WEBCAM site, and then DAYS LATER goes to LJ INTENTIONALLY as a result of your marketing efforts then AWE get the sale.

NOTE TO AWE: Please let me know if I explained it wrong.

If this is in fact the case then I for one am VERY DISTURBED by this revelation.

Douglas tells me that this is common knowledge among affiliate webmasters.

Well, I can tell you that I was in a state of shock when I learned this. In essence AWE is BY FAR our biggest competitor.

Maybe I was naive but I thought that a surfer would need to actually visit LJ in order for a cookie to be set.

By my count I have lost approximately 20 sales out of 100. That's 20% ... One out of five.

AWE won't help one bit to explain who got the sale and how. I have several letters from other clients all saying the same thing .. that they hadn't been to LJ. Most had never been to a webcam site at all before I explained what camming was all about and how fun it was.

At the time I didn't think to ask if they had been to PornHub or some other site where they might have picked up the AWE cookie.

This "surprise cookie" revelation explains a lot and I am not a happy camper

Please weigh in on this. Is this common knowledge? Do other sites do this?

Is it something many / most / all sites do? Or is AWE a special situation in the industry?

Of course AWE has a huge marketing budget .. but do the other sites do it on some level or another?

Let's see if this thread stays up for long

Hit me up on ICQ
264-118-553

Hey ive just said this shit in 3 different threads.

Why do you think all these big tube sites are popping up live jasmine?

Do pop ups all of a sudden convert MAD for tube sites? Alas no.

They are popping them becuase if they cookie millions of people, and any of those buy LJ credits - they will get the sale.

They steal content, make a huge site and then even steal your sales... aweeesoooommeee!!

CXA · 11-18-2010, 08:43 AM

Mickey:

Here's where "The rubber hits the road"

If both of the TEST CASES I provided you say that they had either not been to LJ within the previous 30 days from when they joined ... or ... they had never been to LJ at all, ever.

And ... they both state that they had never been members of LJ or a white-label / cobrand. Would you want me to tell them that you are calling them a liar?

What PROOF can you offer me that they DID go to LJ or an affiliate?

If you don't offer proof then it's your word against theirs .. and the 18 others.

What'syour solution to this problem. We all want to hear

Klen · 11-18-2010, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by kazbalah

Hey ive just said this shit in 3 different threads.

Why do you think all these big tube sites are popping up live jasmine?

Do pop ups all of a sudden convert MAD for tube sites? Alas no.

They are popping them becuase if they cookie millions of people, and any of those buy LJ credits - they will get the sale.

They steal content, make a huge site and then even steal your sales... aweeesoooommeee!!

Yes the irony in this thread,it actually proves how is bad idea to promote awe since sale would go to other affiliate due to their presence everywhere.

2intense · 11-18-2010, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by kazbalah

Now its the #1 webcam site - Why?

no,is not # 1 webcam site .............

CXA · 11-18-2010, 08:54 AM

Weren't there a few guys here that wanted to bring in the lawyers? Whatever happened to that?

If you're a lawyer or want to join me in retaining one, please contact me privately.

Does anyone know where AWE's main office is located?

Agent 488 · 11-18-2010, 08:59 AM

i heard awe world headquarters has moved to sealand. good luck on serving them there.

lazycash · 11-18-2010, 09:04 AM

CXA, I just want you to clarify in regards to your members signing up to LJ. What exactly were you offering them if they signed up and then emailed you confirming?

11-18-2010, 09:13 AM

here we go. . .

xsabn · 11-18-2010, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2intense

STFU

you promote the biggest thieves from entire adult biz, and you know it's true..
so.. AWE is OK, i bet this will end soon.. a big program always have big enemies

TurboAngel · 11-18-2010, 10:33 AM

Wow........

Mickey_ · 11-18-2010, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradBreakfast

AwEmpire has stalled paying me around $291.xx for the past 2 months. First it was a "lost" check in the mail even-though the USPS has never ever lost a single check of mine. They admitted there was a problem with their payouts, but forced me to agree to a $35 cancellation fee before they would send a WIRE, then did not include all my bank information they wanted in the WIRE which, they said, was "RETURNED". It seems they are utilizing STALL tactics and I DON'T LIKE IT.

TWO MOTNHS LATER They still have not paid me. WHERE IS MY MONEY AWEMPIRE?

My business partner also has an outstanding payment they never paid him, so the problem isn't unique just Mr. CXA

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Originally Posted by BradBreakfast

They have fake American-sounding names like "Brad" and "Dave" but when one of their reps replied to my emails, the "senders name" was "Naggy" not "Brad".... they're supposedly in Hungary.

I really hope nobody nominated them for "Affiliate Program of the Year" for the xBiz 2011 Awards, as they've drug there feet paying me... and other people I know.

"AWEmpire Named XBIZ Summer Forum Platinum Sponsor" .... was it with skimmed affiliate money?

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradBreakfast

@BCyber - Yeah tell me about it. I have had other affiliate programs paying me $100-800 weekly with no problems, one affiliate program paid me $35k just last year OFF ONE SITE. What AwEmpire is doing is disgusting and is obviously wide spread.

I believe CXA because the same thing is happening to me, right now as me, and another affiliate I referred to AwEmpire as we speak.

I'll be happy to post when I get paid, but after all my time chasing this payment for 2 months is almost not going to be worth it.

If I don't receive payment like I told AwEmpire, I'll have to tell anybody who mentions AwEmpire about my experience and their non-payment... and as I told them, I'm only 26 years old and in this business FOR THE LONG HAUL!

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Originally Posted by BradBreakfast

Awempire dave ... Where are you and where is our money?

If I'm not paid... I'll be submitting fraudulent processing complaints to VISA and MASTERCARD directly.

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Originally Posted by BradBreakfast

I too have removed all their flash apps (that cause multiple unwanted pop-ups if your visitors leave your site open too long), as well as their links until I'm paid.

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Originally Posted by BradBreakfast

@crazygirls - It's money that's owed to me, being unjustly withheld, and until I get it, I'm not going to shut up. No offense to you.

With that being said, that's all I'm going to say about that.

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Originally Posted by BradBreakfast

@2intense - I first thought it was just Chrome web browser, so I idled on my sites in FireFox, and their "Live cam" flash banners didn't just do 1 or 2 popups but like 6 all in a row and they were hard to close. I pulled those from my small-but-profitable network of sites as fast as I could. I don't want to send visitors to shady ass affiliates or I'll lose credibility with them and there will be no repeat sales, and without those my business would eventually die due to the lack of trust.

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Originally Posted by BradBreakfast

AWEmpire = Next ePassporte level scandal ??????

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Originally Posted by BradBreakfast

@Tjeezers - If AwEmpire isn't scamming everybody and supporting illegal tube sites [why do they care, you can't pirate LIVE shows... you can record them and pirate them, but it's not the same effect].. where is wildwildwest's and my payments. I'm starting to think this is wide spread and now only coming to light because people are hoping to still get paid.... I, myself have been warning AwEmpire rep's I'll go to the boards if I am not paid. They keep promising payment and their time lapses and they promise it again..... FOR TWO MONTHS.

I ask if you are not having an issue yourself please don't try to distract people from the issue at hand. Thanks

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Originally Posted by BradBreakfast

@Tjeezers - I'm a victim of AWEmpire myself as well and this isn't a case of "mob mentality". I do not need to "read between the lines." This is my last response to you, as it's obvious you're just trying to stir up problems.

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Originally Posted by BradBreakfast

Just so everybody knows I inserted their ready-made flash banners on my blog sidebars and did a post or two about them with a screen capture as the post graphic including an honest review. That's the extent of the creativeness of my promotion.

I still have not been paid.

Brad,

Contrary to your speculation ('trying to stall') lost checks were, in fact, reported by a few of our US affiliates. Unfortunately the check void fees are imposed by the issuing company/bank and the fee has to be passed onto the affiliate.

With all due respect, I don't see how your case compares to that of Neil's. Your check was lost, our accounts payable dept. sent a replacement wire transfer, which only made it to your intermediary bank and could not advance to the destination bank due to one missing field (ABA #). You received an official PDF confirmation from our support staff, that stated your commission was indeed sent. Having said all this, do you honestly believe in the crusade you've started going from thread to thread stating AWE doesn't pay, using stall tactics, "Next ePassporte level scandal", submitting fraudulent processing reports to VISA and MC, etc.? Honest question.

I understand you're new to AWE and with the recent closing of many affiliate programs, affiliates are more cautious when it comes to payment issues, but AWE did not open its doors yesterday and our staff has always worked hard to ensure AWE partners receive their payment, whether it is WebmasterChecks funds frozen or ePassporte being shut down, our affiliates received their commissions, even though the payments were made using our own reserves not knowing whether we would be able to recover the frozen funds or not.

Also, please email us information about the flash promo tool issue you mentioned, as we do not have any flash promo tools that open any popups, our team would like to investigate.

Thank you.

2intense · 11-18-2010, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xsabn

you promote the biggest thieves from entire adult biz, and you know it's true..
so.. AWE is OK, i bet this will end soon.. a big program always have big enemies

ha ha ha ,u know is # 1 adult cam site

lazycash · 11-18-2010, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kazbalah

Hey ive just said this shit in 3 different threads.

Why do you think all these big tube sites are popping up live jasmine?

Do pop ups all of a sudden convert MAD for tube sites? Alas no.

They are popping them becuase if they cookie millions of people, and any of those buy LJ credits - they will get the sale.

They steal content, make a huge site and then even steal your sales... aweeesoooommeee!!

Bingo, even if you get your site visitor to clickthrough your livejasmin link, there's a good chance they are already cookied to an awe house account from a tube site and you won't get credit for the sale. Anyone checked to see if the cookie put on by their ad popups is 14 day or lifetime?

Only way I'd ever consider promoting AWE is if they did away with their cookie system and just tracked by account. If I send a visitor to a cam site, they sign up and fund an account, I want all the revshare from that account. This is the way most cam sponsors do it.

FlexxAeon · 11-18-2010, 11:54 AM

still laughing at 'sniff test'

Roald · 11-18-2010, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by kazbalah

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Why do you think all these big tube sites are popping up live jasmine?

Do pop ups all of a sudden convert MAD for tube sites? Alas no.

They are popping them becuase if they cookie millions of people, and any of those buy LJ credits - they will get the sale.

I do think this is a valid question as I recall Mickey saying the cookie is only set when they click on the popunder.

Mickey?

Mickey_ · 11-18-2010, 11:57 AM

copy-paste of my reply regarding popunders from another thread:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mickey-AWE

One thing I feel is important to clarify:

The mentioned popunders do not place cookies unless the user clicks through.
We do not condone or allow cookie stuffing and have various internal checks in place to weed out any would-be cookie stuffers. However, if you do come across any affiliate sites cookie stuffing please report them to us and they will be dealt with.

As a personal comment: I understand the easiest way to justify performance issues is by finding outside factors to blame, it's human nature, I've probably done it, you've probably done it, all of us have probably done it at one point or another. My experience is (both corporate and personal), if you're willing to accept this and work on not trying to justify performance issues and actively look for ways to adapt to the changes and get creative, your ventures will be a lot more successful.

'Adapt' can be very vague, so here's an example: if you feel larger free sites are hard to compete with as users may have become familiar with our flagship product via advertising on these sites, feel free to promote any of our 8 additional official sites or your own co-brand/whitelabel. There are a variety of options we have to offer.

Roald · 11-18-2010, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mickey-AWE

copy-paste of my reply regarding popunders from another thread:

Thanks, that must explain why we convert pretty well on Mycams

CXA · 11-18-2010, 12:07 PM

Mickey:

MANY OF US LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR REPLY TO THIS POST
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signupdamnit · 11-18-2010, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit

- When using their promo materials every X pageviews bring up an advertisement with some lady on it saying "Aren't you the lucky one". My affiliate link is nowhere to be found when this occurs. This isn't a special custom tool either. It's a regular iframe. The problem is well documented elsewhere. They seem to claim it is a technical issue but that seems very convenient to me. This problem is many years old. http://board.awempire.com/showthread.php?t=11179

To provide some evidence of what I was referring to here is a screenshot of what comes up:

http://oi53.tinypic.com/1zoexr9.jpg (or http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=1zoexr9&s=7 )

Here's another person asking about it on their forum: http://board.awempire.com/showthread.php?t=10151

Supposedly it's an "old bug"

You'll notice how it has an action verb telling the surfer to "CLICK CLICK". The "CLICK CLICK" leads to http://www.2.livejasmin.com/allonline.php without your affiliate code.

So if this appears on an iframe on your site and a surfer clicks it, then it basically funnels the surfer to their own site without giving you any credit.

If it's really just a bug, it was time for them to fix it a long time ago. They need to do so immediately.

edit: Here's another person reporting seeing this on a co-branded site: http://board.awempire.com/showthread.php?t=346 Note the date - 2006!

CXA · 11-18-2010, 12:14 PM

Mickey:

Kindly answer a simple question:

Where is your main office located?

Agent 488 · 11-18-2010, 12:19 PM

free willy.

sextoyking · 11-18-2010, 12:26 PM

I never knew companies in our industry charged a stop / void check fee....

If one of our affiliates doesn't get his or her check - we just stop that check and send another....

Hope you guys get this all worked out.

Peace

Todd

JFK · 11-18-2010, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by seeandsee

early morning drama for me

well its afternoon edition by now ;)

11-18-2010, 04:59 AM	#102
seeandsee Check SIG! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Europe (Skype: gojkoas) Posts: 50,945	early morning drama for me __________________ BUY MY SIG - 50$/Year Contact here

11-18-2010, 05:16 AM	#103
gimme-website Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Finland Posts: 1,588	Sounds like the OP is offering "compensated traffic" __________________ www.gimme-website.com

11-18-2010, 06:27 AM	#108
BradBreakfast Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 415	@signupdamnit - Culture of disrespect at AWE? I noticed that too, they have tried to intimate that this is all my fault. Especially with the Wire "error". They sent me a PDF file of the "wire confirmation" and they didn't include most of the information they asked for inside their console, including my receiving bank name and address in the "Beneficiary" field. They said they sent the wire with "the information THAT I GAVE THEM in the console" or something to that effect, but their "confirmation" PDF shows they didn't! They usually take 24-48 hours to reply to any email I send, even though it's usually daylight working hours in Hungary when I send them. They are stalling and hoping I'll go away... that's all they're doing. Overall I feel really "brushed off" by their support. Honestly, it makes me feel more bad then upset. AWE: IF I DON'T GET PAID WILL NEVER FORGET nor will I let anybody else forget. Last edited by BradBreakfast; 11-18-2010 at 06:30 AM..

11-18-2010, 06:36 AM	#111
BradBreakfast Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 415	A wire was promised this week from AWE-Brad FIVE DAYS AGO and still has not arrived as of 5:35 am PST 11-18-2010. Last edited by BradBreakfast; 11-18-2010 at 06:38 AM..

11-18-2010, 06:54 AM	#118
livegirlsonbed Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Europe Posts: 487	Hi! If you dont was credited with sales this may be an issue regarding the cookie. The awempire.com revshare set a cookie with a lifetime of 14 days. If you want to keep your members lifetime you have to turn on Lifetime revshare option from your account. To be honesti promote awempire starting with 2006, never spoken with my members but i'm happy with my sales there. Regarding Chargebacks, you can see its in your stats also after 6 months from the time when the sale was made. Its exist and are a problem for all credit card procesors. You can block the poor countries and you will not see so many CBs. __________________ Best retention Cams affiliate program!

11-18-2010, 04:56 AM	#101
- LOL - So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 396	AWempire are also thieves. They stole the whale image for their banner from my friend and edited out his copyright: http://www.francoisgohier.com/galler...0macrocephalus

11-18-2010, 06:34 AM	#110
B.Barnato So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,618	this can maybe go in both direction depends of how much the starter leaves out in story

11-18-2010, 06:47 AM	#113
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	great response by awe. i think we can safely wrap up this fiasco and move on.

11-18-2010, 06:49 AM	#115
BradBreakfast Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 415	@Agent 488 - Wrap it up? HELL THE FUCK No.... WHERE IS MY AND OTHERS PAYMENTS?

11-18-2010, 06:49 AM	#116
Randy West So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,079	In defense of AWE, I recently contacted them and told them I was going to stop promoting them. I had an $82 balance, not yet to meet the payout thresh hold of $100. I created a ticket and asked to be paid out what was owed, and they said no problem. Since, the check has been delivered, cashed, cleared and spent. So no ill will towards them in my book

11-18-2010, 07:01 AM	#119
BradBreakfast Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 415	They fucked up my VERY FIRST PAYMENT from them, and my buddies Second Payment... HE did receive his first payment but not any subsequent payment(s). That's not my only issue with them. They could have fixed that easy by not INSULTING us by telling us there was a major problem with US webmaster bound checks then telling us they're not going to pay us until we submit another "ticket" and authorize a $35 check cancellation fee. I can understand if the problem was say... the check was stolen from an insecure mailbox but it was not! It was "lost" on THEIR END. Like I previously said, NOT A SINGLE CHECK of mine has been lost by the United States Postal Service. Additionally, they're acting like it's not a real high priority of theirs to make this right. $291 or $20,000 ... a missed payment then taking MONTHS to fix it is a fucked up thing to do to an affiliate, especially in this economy. Last year I would of brushed this off and stopped promoting them but I really needed that payment, as I had planned my finances on receiving the first check, I was sure I would receive it because they SEEMED like a reputable company. BUT THEY ARE NOT. Why would anybody keep promoting them if they can't even pay out $291 via a check properly? The guy who have said "lets move on" was WAYYYYY to quick to come on and say that. The OP's problem is not the only problem affiliates are having with AWEmpire Rep's and company as a whole: THEY ARE MISSING PAYMENTS AND NOT ACTING QUICK ENOUGH TO FIX IT! ... IT'S BEEN TWO MONTHS FOR ME.......

11-18-2010, 07:07 AM	#120
BradBreakfast Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 415	"micky" - where is my wire? Is my money in motion?

11-18-2010, 07:32 AM	#121
Bryan G Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,338	wheres fatfoo for his official comment __________________ Bryan skype: bryan.glass3 \| ICQ 302999591

11-18-2010, 07:43 AM	#122
BradBreakfast Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 415	@Bryan G - Guess they must not of paid him either

11-18-2010, 07:46 AM	#123
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	guess that`s it. no further reply from either party. so, how is the weather where you are? cold here.

11-18-2010, 08:18 AM	#126
HomerSimpson Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Springfield Posts: 13,826	neverending dramas with AWE... __________________ Make a bank with Chaturbate - the best selling webcam program Ads that can't be block with AdBlockers !!! /// Best paying popup program (Bitcoin payouts) !!! PHP, MySql, Smarty, CodeIgniter, Laravel, WordPress, NATS... fixing stuff, server migrations & optimizations... My ICQ: 27429884 \| Email:

11-18-2010, 08:26 AM	#127
kazbalah Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,215	Yea dont worry brad, funds are in motion :P __________________ Link Directory Submitter - Forum Auto Submitter - Article Submitter - Simple SE submitter - Blog Auto Poster - 45 Wordpress Themes - Mis Spelt Keyword Generator - Auto Forum Submitter

11-18-2010, 08:43 AM	#129
CXA Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: South Florida Posts: 211	Mickey: Here's where "The rubber hits the road" If both of the TEST CASES I provided you say that they had either not been to LJ within the previous 30 days from when they joined ... or ... they had never been to LJ at all, ever. And ... they both state that they had never been members of LJ or a white-label / cobrand. Would you want me to tell them that you are calling them a liar? What PROOF can you offer me that they DID go to LJ or an affiliate? If you don't offer proof then it's your word against theirs .. and the 18 others. What'syour solution to this problem. We all want to hear __________________ Don't complain ... compete [email protected]

11-18-2010, 08:54 AM	#132
CXA Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: South Florida Posts: 211	Weren't there a few guys here that wanted to bring in the lawyers? Whatever happened to that? If you're a lawyer or want to join me in retaining one, please contact me privately. Does anyone know where AWE's main office is located? __________________ Don't complain ... compete [email protected]

11-18-2010, 08:59 AM	#133
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	i heard awe world headquarters has moved to sealand. good luck on serving them there.

11-18-2010, 09:04 AM	#134
lazycash Troll Patrol Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Local Socal Posts: 15,214	CXA, I just want you to clarify in regards to your members signing up to LJ. What exactly were you offering them if they signed up and then emailed you confirming?

11-18-2010, 09:13 AM	#135
Altwebdesign Guest Posts: n/a	here we go. . .

11-18-2010, 10:33 AM	#137
TurboAngel H.B.I.C. Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: NC Posts: 30,122	Wow........

11-18-2010, 11:54 AM	#141
FlexxAeon Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,765	still laughing at 'sniff test' __________________ flexx [dot] aeon [at] gmail

11-18-2010, 12:07 PM	#145
CXA Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: South Florida Posts: 211	Mickey: MANY OF US LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR REPLY TO THIS POST . . . __________________ Don't complain ... compete [email protected] Last edited by CXA; 11-18-2010 at 12:10 PM..

11-18-2010, 12:14 PM	#147
CXA Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: South Florida Posts: 211	Mickey: Kindly answer a simple question: Where is your main office located? __________________ Don't complain ... compete [email protected]

11-18-2010, 12:19 PM	#148
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	free willy.

11-18-2010, 12:26 PM	#149
sextoyking Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Portland, OR. Posts: 6,034	I never knew companies in our industry charged a stop / void check fee.... If one of our affiliates doesn't get his or her check - we just stop that check and send another.... Hope you guys get this all worked out. Peace Todd __________________ ICQ: 52344098 -------------------------------------- 50% Commissions on all Product Sales. http://www.wishing.com/money