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Originally Posted by CXA
As a good faith gesture I have removed the "Anti-AWE" signature
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Now assuming you have read the postings in the 5 pages you have now, you should come to realize most of the webmasters here are aware of how you plaid the system.
If AWE would give in, than this means the bridge is down for everyone to walk the same road you did. This would be wrong, and can place a company like AWE in red numbers.
OK, let me sum it up
1 You sign up for AWE cause they offer you $222 per sale.
- till so fare nothing wrong, AWE did something to get your attention and that of thousands of others.
2 You realize you have a shitload of website users on your site
- Here it becomes tricky, your not an experienced AWE affiliate, so you go for a PPS deal. Even with knowing you sell your visitors ones for $222 , and not really believing your visitors would keep on spending. Yet, you claim to know your visitors like no one else, and you claim to AWE you bring in business, you should have used a REVS link then to remain something of your credibility in your statements towards AWE.
3 You offer your clients a special deal when they buy a 99 dollar package, cause PPS on AWE has a minimal spending limit before you get it, so you play safe and go for the $99.00 deal, also telling AWE how much business you are " going " to make for them. ( if that was really the case, you would have given your REVS links, knowing you have income for life on your so called loyal members ) ..Nevertheless, you say up straight to your clients you`ll offer them a bonus as reward for their first spending, the first spending that gives you a $222...
So yeah I agree, you did calculations, 222 minus 99, is 123 $ left.
Not saying you would give them a full refund on the 99, but you say you would give them a place on your VIP list, with whatever motivation you did this, i dont care
4 you let your members send you confirmations so you can check the sale, and you totally trust your members. ( this is something i would consider a RISKY statement, knowing the world is full with people who spread their version of the truth, not even keeping in mind someone would lie is just plain wrong )
5 You generate a consistent flow of PPS sales, and yet, AWE puts them in the Doubt Column and finally flags it, and your highly upset.
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So by summing this up, I kind of made clear that you plaid the system. You want to make us feel stupid cause most AWE webmasters inc me never changed the REVS to a PPS link?
Now what borders me most is the marketing bullshit you spread here, how you would made them a lot of business, while in fact you just Circle Jerked your visitors in a PPS system to make money of them. Seriously, doing it like you did is not making business, it is TAKING IT AWAY.
AWE might have a past of changing TOS in favor of them, and cutting of the sharp edges, but NEVER, and I say NEVER in my life I caught them red handed stealing or fucking up the payouts. They convert a shitload of payments every time again, when they upload their payment file, epass was just down during that period so much payments they processed in 1 move. ( sort of ) .. They do not steal sales. When you do a TEST sale, you see it goes OK. Just be sure that you tell them AFTER you did the test.
There is no where written you need to tell them BEFORE you do a test like people suggest in their comments. So, test whatever you want, you get your damn sale.
I know people who are longer then me on AWE, or started out on the same moment, we all share one opinion, AWE does not need to steal or take your sales away cause they need cash.
conclusion, play a PPS system and get your fingers burned. If you would have put your people on REVS and not see them as a leverage and introduce them as a sort of " loan " towards awe ( pay me the 222 and i make sure they keep spending ) you would have had no issues at all.
Revsharing is showing yourself you trust the people you send to a sponsor. Not doing that, and doing what you did now is just not how it works.
Now on a side note, you should be aware now that your website visitors can be used as some sort of a leverage towards your sponsors. But on this way?? This is just not how it is done.
You are free to add me on ICQ `104030 and ask me how to make commercial use of your visitors on a effective way without having the doubt if you are playing this game straight or not, respecting TOS`es and whatsoever. But then again, you can ask this to anyone on this board with experience and they will help you also without problems.
To AWE, I would have liked it very much if you keep Webmaster ID`s on your side and not send them to him. It can create a battle or accusations from left and right towards the ID that catches the sale. Not saying it is true, but for some reason I could have possible taken his sale cause his web visitors are site cheaters and they sniffed on my domains ;) And this would mean I can read soon on this forum how I must have done wrong, cause he believes so much in his own website visitors ( you can make this up from many statements ) that he seems to be willing to call the ID that won the sale a cheater.