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Old 09-16-2010, 01:19 PM   #151
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PS: I still don't agree with Robbie
And you never will...on anything.

hunnert and fiddy fmltubes lurking on GFY to find out things about us to try and shut our businesses down...
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Old 09-16-2010, 01:20 PM   #152
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i can't believe how many times this has been discussed. if you want a more chilled out board, head to the other board. this board is a big mess, and that's what makes it so popular, and enjoyable. it will never change. but someone will start the same thread next year regardless lol.
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Old 09-16-2010, 01:21 PM   #153
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#1 reason I am here is to have a bit of fun anyways, for "real" biz talk I have icq/email/phone.
Best reply ever, from the mouth of a non-"broke kid who typed go fuck yourself into google".
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Old 09-16-2010, 01:25 PM   #154
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And you never will...on anything.

hunnert and fiddy fmltubes lurking on GFY to find out things about us to try and shut our businesses down...
bullshit, think I agreed once with you regarding something in the content censor forum lol

Overall I do see where you are coming from but just don't agree (most of the time) with your views on how to handle things ;)))

I do think you're passionate about this business which is good though haha
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Old 09-16-2010, 01:27 PM   #155
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bullshit, think I agreed once with you regarding something in the content censor forum lol

Overall I do see where you are coming from but just don't agree (most of the time) with your views on how to handle things ;)))

I do think you're passionate about this business which is good though haha
Don't ruin my perception of our rivalry. You are Roald...my archenemy on the interwebs. A maniacal evil super-villain from a galaxy called "Holland"

We must never agree...
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Don't ruin my perception of our rivalry. You are Roald...my archenemy on the interwebs. A maniacal evil super-villain from a galaxy called "Holland"

We must never agree...
I disagree....
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Old 09-16-2010, 01:30 PM   #157
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bullshit, think I agreed once with you regarding something in the content censor forum lol

Overall I do see where you are coming from but just don't agree (most of the time) with your views on how to handle things ;)))

I do think you're passionate about this business which is good though haha
In Holland this is called a "hug".
You and Robbie are having a male bonding thing here Roald?
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On a brief side note, Robbie, It was really fun to hang you with you and C.M. out on the boat and breakfast. Look forward to us all hanging again soon!
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In Holland this is called a "hug".
You and Robbie are having a male bonding thing here Roald?
He kind of replaced my favorite "I disagree with you all the time" person Paul Markham lol
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I understand your point Raold. But I dont think Robbie is talking about people that disagree here. This board is now full of useless posters that bring absolutely nothing but hate to the board and industry. Thats what he is talking about. I mean really.. tke a look at who is posting these days and what they are posting.. its fucking rediculous. All Robbie is asking is to make this an industry only board. I agree with everything he is saying. I also see some valid points of people that disagree. Maybe this board should have a surfer section where they can voice their opinions to the industry.

AND YES GAZILLIONAIRES. I went to get a tissue at your booth last year in Berlin and they were 100 dollar bills.
How can anybody improve himself without learning and listening from others?
Roald only adressed 'useless' as being informative. It's up to the reader what to do with that information. People can disregard it, use it or go against it. That is democracy.
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Old 09-16-2010, 01:37 PM   #162
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On a brief side note, Robbie, It was really fun to hang you with you and C.M. out on the boat and breakfast. Look forward to us all hanging again soon!
Hi Michael. We had a fun time drinking and boating with you as well. Tell that hot piece of ass...er, I mean your wife that I said "hi"

I'm also gonna take a look at your new payment solution as soon as all this dust over epass settles down.
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The idea is right, but the approach is wrong.

It would be too much work and take too much time to ask people to prove industry cred'. Banning some people would just send them to other sites which wouldn't be good for GFY nor program owners or advertisers because they want views and clicks.

I suggest a different idea.

For the most part, the adult industry has shown Visa and the feds that we can self regulate, are professional and take important issues seriously. Why don't we do the same on GFY?

I come to GFY to relax or to take a break (I'm eating lunch right now). I'm always looking for new business, but I enjoy the jokes and drama once in a while. There seems to be more "useless" threads lately but sometimes good things come from them.

My answer to this thread then would be "its not broke, don't fix it". However if we want to take better information and ideas from GFY, we should learn to improve the uality of our posts. By all means lets continue to have fun, but don't forget the business opportunity that GFY offers either.
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He kind of replaced my favorite "I disagree with you all the time" person Paul Markham lol

I like Paul too as a person. He's ok.
But I don't reply to his posts often.
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The part I will never understand is....

the Industry has been supposedly in "Free Fall" for the past 4 years. At least this subject comes up over and over again... considering this is the case, WHY do all research studies show digital adult entertainment GROWING in revenue each year? I am truely confused...

If we are in free fall, we should have hit rock bottom already, yet there is still billions being spent each year... where is the free fall?
probably because sponsors are getting away with not paying affiliates.
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I only read this board every few months and no longer post here. not only is it useless to me, it's lurking with snitches, haters, and every alphabet agency known to man. If cointelpro exists still you will find them here. what's the point of having a private board filled with CIs and idiots. feel free to ban/block me.
shhh you'll attract attention
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Mark that would great if we could police ourselves on GFY. And if this was a forum full of people with vested interest in the adult industry it would be possible.

But how does Eric allow this kind of shit? This is in one of Steve Lightspeeds threads about piracy and is a reply to Steve's attorney. It's full of hate, slander, and obviously written by a person with an agenda who does NOT want to see action taken against the destruction of our industry. This guy shouldn't be here:

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steele dont u know what jew refers to ? not the race but the fact lawyers like you rip off clients. thats a jew move. To try and impose what an authority should behave on an internet forum, is sort of like Hitler dictating what people should do on the internet. Did you read the constitution and rights ? You obviously didn't, I question whether you really are an attorney. Your arguments are like those of a fresh undergrad who snorts coke because he got 170 on LSAT. In other words, you are way too immature Steele, and you lack fundamental understanding of how laws and cases have worked in this side of the law. You seem to have this magical dream of winning it against the odds, but from a few facts we can see you will be crushed like a bug.

1) You presented yourself very negatively as an "attorney" by telling people to shut up on internet.
2) You are telling other people to fuck off with your poorly constructed arguments
3) Denying and making lame excuses in what other people has already outlined for you as an extremely small odds in your favor for this case.

Steele you are better of presenting some mainstream company instead. However, the fact that you represent the porn industry in the court, this will be like shit that follow you everwhere. "Did you hear, Mr. Steele helps out the porn industry, you know where they pimp out young girls for perverts everywhere." "Hello This is Obama, I am not making you secretary of state because of your past history of protecting porn peddlers" "Daddy, what do you do ? Weel son, I help porn industry. Daddy, I am 8 what is Porn ? Let me show u son...."

us judgment has already ruled IP address does not mean the person downloaded from that, hence it is a very weak case. The IPs you provide are going to be thrown out in the beginning hearing your statement. There's always plausible deniability in the defense's argument that a compromised router or hacker could easil seed torrents on target's computers. but that only applies if you went after seeders, but you are so stupid to go after downloaders ! Going after downloaders don't work unless you are RIAA, which you are not. Porn Associate Of America? Good luck, since this country HATES porn and there's a group of people always doing their best to end porn producers.

you obviously is clueless about this part of the law, Nathan obviously has a lot better understanding and he didnt even pass the bar. continue making yourself an ass on here Steele.

I hope steve has thought out the potential backslash on a massive scale once this gets some media momentum. People everywhere would rip your content and spread it everywhere just for teh lulz. You now have that "4chan jihad" liability on your hands as a result of a bitch move by you.
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and i do agree this should be a paid subscription forum, you wont get as many fake nicks if people had to pay a monthly fee.

theirs 60k+ members, thats quite revenue for the owners.
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But how does Eric allow this kind of shit? This is in one of Steve Lightspeeds threads about piracy and is a reply to Steve's attorney. It's full of hate, slander, and obviously written by a person with an agenda who does NOT want to see action taken against the destruction of our industry. This guy shouldn't be here:
and again I disagree 100% lol

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when i first started gfy i just had interest in the adult industry
i didnt have any form of traffic or sites or anything like that

that just seems kinda absurd imo
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and again I disagree 100% lol

seriously? Or are you just fucking with me? You really think that guy belongs on an industry forum? And so when the govt. reads his spew (and they do) they THINK he is one of us, and it makes us all look bad.

I don't know what to think anymore. It's like I'm in an industry full of folks who just don't really care. I know it's just a message board. But it's the biggest one in the world. And to a lot of the world...it represents us. And that kind of thing is what we show them?
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when i first started gfy i just had interest in the adult industry
i didnt have any form of traffic or sites or anything like that

that just seems kinda absurd imo
So did fmltube

And dirtyd went to jail because of his "interest"

People shouldn't be breaking into the biz through a forum anyway. They should have to learn it like we did before this existed. The old school way. Just sayin'...
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Ive been here for a longtime. It changed from when I started. I would say back then it 80% industry 20% others. Now probably its the other way around and its become very dark and mean. Like you never heard before of a fight on this board and the person fucking with the person in the real world or fucking with his business.
I was working in bricks and mortar those businesses had lots of people around so besides work it was social. Working at home I didnt have that any more and GFY replaced that for me. I come here less than I used too.
I think they will never make it industry only.I see it going an all surfer board first.
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same thread every year. nothing is going to change.
Because the banners are sold via views.
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Like you never heard before of a fight on this board and the person fucking with the person in the real world or fucking with his business.
you are wrong about that.. some evil backstabbing used to go on back in the day..

turning people in to the fbi, hacking into competitors shit, and all kinds of crazy stuff..

no one is your friend in this business and its always been that way...




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no offense to you, but if you just started in the last couple years and your business quadrupled, how much money is that really? If you were making $100 a week and now you making $400, while making 4x more sounds good, that isn't a relevant example to why aren't most other people making more not less. Someone could have had just a 20% drop over the last couple years and be making millions less a year.

It's harder to make money these days. If you are new and you are able to make money you are at an advantage vs someone who has been around a long time but has gotten fat and lazy and their revenue methods are dwindling fast. You figured out how to make money in today's environment, their ways are outdated and don't work. All they know how to do is spend, not make. You just want to make sure you don't ever become the fat calf.
You're absolutely right Will: with no context my saying my income "quadrupled" doesn't mean anything. Let me put it another way:

$xx - mid $xxx,xxx in 1.9 years.

So what I meant was: when I launched my network i had Xx dollars coming in from being an aff and having a couple scattered paysites (including my own). From there I just kept building and building and building....

Another context: I run an entire network of sites; if I had 1 or 2 sites and were trying to make what I make network-wide with only that 1 site I would be in a differant boat, and have a differant biz model. I guess what I'm saying is: anyone MAD/LOONY enough to want to own/run dozens of sites WILL still make money, they just have to keep building and building and building....

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A motivated mod could sweep this place free of pirates and tube boys in five minutes or less.

All he'd have to do is do a search on the phrase "adapt or die" and then ban every tool here who's posted as much.

Think about it!

All the shit shoveled out of the barn almost instantly

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Old 09-16-2010, 05:57 PM   #191
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this is your source: ebiz "Full Edition - $470
Complete 200-page adult market research report. "

and you think its mentioned somewhere else.

I wouldn't say that's overwhelming evidence that porn sales are going up each year. Xbiz is biased at best, and I'm not paying $470 for their opinion.

Do you have any, 3rd party reports that I can see with out having to pay for it ?
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I only read this board every few months and no longer post here. not only is it useless to me, it's lurking with snitches, haters, and every alphabet agency known to man. If cointelpro exists still you will find them here. what's the point of having a private board filled with CIs and idiots. feel free to ban/block me.
you sure you don't post here anymore ?
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this is your source: ebiz "Full Edition - $470
Complete 200-page adult market research report. "

and you think its mentioned somewhere else.

I wouldn't say that's overwhelming evidence that porn sales are going up each year. Xbiz is biased at best, and I'm not paying $470 for their opinion.

Do you have any, 3rd party reports that I can see with out having to pay for it ?
If you do not want to spend any money, I can not help you, the links I showed have various adult related and general entertainment reports which say the same thing, cost $3000-$5000 each though, and why should I be sending it to you?

I really could not care less if you believe me or not... The industry is DEFINATELY not in a free fall.
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You're absolutely right Will: with no context my saying my income "quadrupled" doesn't mean anything. Let me put it another way:

$xx - mid $xxx,xxx in 1.9 years.
you did a little more than quadrupled Congrats.
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If you do not want to spend any money, I can not help you, the links I showed have various adult related and general entertainment reports which say the same thing, cost $3000-$5000 each though, and why should I be sending it to you?

I really could not care less if you believe me or not... The industry is DEFINATELY not in a free fall.
LOL well I have proof that it is in a free fall... I can provide the proof to you but it will cost you $5000 for my research...

You a piece of work.

I don't care what your top secret marketing studies show. Why the hell did you even buy them in the first place. It is what it is. If you base a multi million dollar decission on what ebiz has to say then i feel sorry for you.

The reality is 18 out of 20 people here are making less today then they did 2 years ago. I doubt the other 2 people are g oing gang busters and making what everyone lost plus more. I had an open mind to at least look at where you getting your "facts" from but i am not going to pay $500 or $5000 for it.
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